Comments by "L.W. Paradis" (@l.w.paradis2108) on "Death of Brian Laundrie | Gabby Petito Case Update | Narcissism Warning Signs" video.

The police encounter was on August 12. Brian was back in Florida August 17 -- 23, and on the 23rd he returned to Utah and rejoined Gabby. That is a pretty long cooling-off period. It was also an opportunity for Gabby to confide in someone, and to get away. Who doesn't talk? Everyone tells someone. . . . People want "answers" rather than the right answers.
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There's also a kinky practice that became normalized and needs to stop. Period.
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I thought it was pretty bad. Devoid of nuance, cookie cutter, and above all designed to soothe listeners who are easily upset. I think we all know by now why so much hysteria is swirling around this case, and it is not all because "Brian's parents!!!" There are other reasons as well.
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@christmastiger Why would they feel responsible? They did do the right thing. I don't know what you mean.
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@iksnaz553 Very interesting. I had not seen these reports. This is excruciating for Gabby's family, being their first holiday without her, but I hope more answers are forthcoming. It seems as though there were a lot of chances to save her life. Not an ordinary case at all. Did you see her mother on 60 Minutes Australia? I was shocked by how astute, intelligent, and level-headed she was, and she admitted she did not have bad feelings about Brian. She is not changing her story now, either. She comes across great. Sometimes you will see a mom who pushes a daughter to date and so forth, unwisely but with good intentions. Not this mom. I got the feeling nothing escaped her, and that Gabby was very much loved and appreciated, and not pushed to get engaged at a young age. I've never seen anything like it, frankly. I wouldn't have thought this could happen.
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This didn't make sense. Here is the timeline, available in many places including CNN: August 12 -- the videotaped police encounter we saw August 17 -- Brian flies back to Florida to clean out a storage locker and get some supplies, and possibly money August 23 -- Brian returns to Salt Lake City, rejoins Gabby; they were apart for about 5 or 6 days August 27 -- incident in restaurant, last text from Gabby to parents that was clearly from her By August 30, Gabby was dead. This timeline shows interruptions to the buildup of rage described here. It also shows that Gabby had a real opportunity to get away, or at least to talk to someone she trusted, August 17 through 22, a solid five days. So, what happened? If you want to prevent stuff, you need to know what happened.
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@AudioGardenSlave123 Your obsession about "only one side" is absurd. The gesture Gabby demonstrated that Brian used against her is very similar to what would be used to cut off someone's air supply. She did not strangle him. We may never know for certain whether he strangled her, but absolutely ALL the circumstantial evidence points that way. In any case, the timeline in this video skips over the fact that he took a plane to Florida in the middle of all this. Changes the analysis. I also don't understand why your comments went from making good points to ad hominem and misogyny. What happened?
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@sisuguillam5109 This is nonsense. Certain actions are inherently dangerous on several levels. Certain actions make effective withdrawal of consent highly problematic to achieve in the moment when that withdrawal is most needed. Certain actions can become habitual, and can appear less risky than they are with repetition, and can easily lead to serious accidents.
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@donnadillard7016 Oh, no worries! NOW I get it (duh). I also said that the people who called the police did the right thing. It wasn't their fault that the police who showed up did the wrong thing. We are good. :)
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Here is the timeline, available in many places including CNN: August 12 -- the videotaped police encounter we saw August 17 -- Brian flies back to Florida to clean out a storage locker and get some supplies, and possibly money August 23 -- Brian returns to Salt Lake City, rejoins Gabby; they were apart for about 5 or 6 days August 27 -- incident in restaurant, last text from Gabby to parents that was clearly from her By August 30, Gabby was dead. This timeline shows interruptions to the buildup of rage described here. It also shows that Gabby had a real opportunity to get away, or at least to talk to someone she trusted, August 17 through 22, a solid five days. So . . . What happened?
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@Jeremy Dionisio This has nothing to do with sympathy. It has to do with analysis and prevention. Your suggestion that unstable people should not be in relationships does not sound to me like it is going to save the next young woman. I don't disagree. I think it won't work. Did you see the 60 Minutes Australia interview of Gabby's mother? She had not one bad word to say about Brian. In fact, she said Brian liked to read to Gabby's youngest sibling. Gabby's mother comes across great. Intelligent, aware, and honest. So . . . She spotted nothing? Maybe we need to think this through.
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@montybonza879 1. If it was all about control, why did he fly out to Florida in the middle of the trip, then return and rejoin Gabby? She was alone out West for days. 2. Gabby's mother said she saw nothing in Brian that worried her. She gave a lengthy interview to 60 Minutes Australia, and she seemed very aware and intelligent, not like someone pushing her daughter to please males but like a truly nice, intelligent, astute person who was completely blindsided. 3. Who would dare defend Brian now, and face a mob? What would be the point? Clearly he is responsible for some despicable actions that those who knew him did not expect from him. Why weigh in, call negative attention to yourself, and risk hurting Gabby's family and friends who have been wronged and are innocent as lambs in this tragedy? Figuring out what happened might help someone else. Competing to see who can say more bad things about the bad man is not going to help.
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@therealdeal3672 Yes, I'm horrified by it. I don't mean to suggest it happened here. I don't know. But in any case it has GOT to stop. You hear normal, not drugged or drunken women say "I was afraid to say no," and normal, not drugged or drunken men say, "oh, I'm sorry! I thought I was supposed to." Neither is lying. Let that sink in. Infuriating.
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@therealdeal3672 There is a website called "We Can’t Consent To This" in the UK with up-to-date information. That's what people need to know.
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Gabby Petito's parents gave entirely different information on 60 Minutes Australia. Her mother said she never noticed anything abnormal about Brian, and that he would do things like read to one of Gabby's younger siblings. The mother was clearly not worried about him. She was not prepared for this. There are other possibilities here.
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@donnadillard7016 You owe me an apology. I also suggest you look up the timeline. You clearly don't understand what I said.
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@judithbradford9130 I wouldn't be surprised if this were an element. This story fell off a cliff so fast that I'm genuinely surprised. I only hope everyone will be completely candid with investigators, to better understand why this happened and to figure out how to prevent it. It is not common for police to have spent this much time with this couple, then for them to have been apart for nearly a week, only to reunite and have this happen. I hope there is a lesson we can use, or law enforcement can use. It really isn't an ordinary story. Your theory would help explain why Brian went back to Florida to empty out their storage locker. He couldn't afford it any more, he couldn't pay to replace the things in it that they needed, and maybe he wanted to try to sell something. Gabby could make money on social media, but no one would pay to read his stuff.
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In other videos, he states that Brian flew home to Florida to clean out a storage unit with his father between the police encounter and killing Gabby.
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@AudioGardenSlave123 I think your comments do go beyond the facts we know, but they make much more sense than the simplistic, overwrought stuff we are being fed.
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@Jeremy Dionisio Look, she was murdered. We know that. First, preserve life. To preserve life, we look at what happened, why, and what could have been done differently to save her. I don't see simple answers. According to other videos Dr. Grande made, Brian did leave the trip, and went to Florida by airplane to clean out a storage locker, then returned and rejoined Gabby. What happened exactly? I'm not even convinced Brian deliberately and intentionally killed Gabby. He appeared to be too surprised and disoriented right after her death. Perhaps he had been trying to intimidate her. There is more than one possibility here. The lessons to draw from the tragedy depend on what happened.
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@AudioGardenSlave123 She demonstrated how he grabbed her by the face and squeezed hard, and was reluctant to say so. Think on it.
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@brendakauffman2222 Gabby's own mother had a good impression of Brian, and she comes across very, very well. No pushover. The part of the timeline when he flew back to Florida and Gabby was alone for a few days needs to be explained. That has been ignored.
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@AudioGardenSlave123 There is nothing one-sided about identifying the agent in this homicide. It wasn't, like, mutual. A lot of the rest of the stuff said about Brian is tendentious. If he was so weird, why did Gabby's mother notice nothing at all, as she said on 60 Minutes Australia, very persuasively? And he killed himself only because he didn't want to go to jail? I think he killed himself because he was distraught. Could the homicide have been unintentional? A pure accident, hell no, but what about highly reckless? While trying to intimidate her, for example? I think that's possible. He came across as very confused and disoriented right after her death. That tells me he might not have meant to kill her. Objective enough? I don't see a better scenario for him. Do you? Really?
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@AudioGardenSlave123 Great. Because that is THE best light in which I could possibly see Brian's actions. A stretch, but plausible. I also don't think jumping to the conclusion that he was a monster his entire life (and that Gabby was "groomed") is likely to be true, and is certainly not helpful.
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@sisuguillam5109 Your condescending tone speaks volumes. About you, I mean.
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@donnadillard7016 WHERE in the world did you see that I (of all people) said one word in defense of the police?? I am critiquing the analysis, which fails to account for the five whole days the two of them were apart. Gabby must have spoken with someone, after the ordeal Brian and the cops put her through. I shouldn't comment anywhere, ever. Hysteria reigns supreme. Forget it. I give up.
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@rocketmip9382 I SAID that in reference to the BYSTANDERS who saw Laundrie strike Abby Petito and called the police. I said they did nothing wrong BY CALLING the police, even though the police were ineffective. Tell me if this is too tough for anyone. After Crumbley, I'm thinking I vastly overestimate people.
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@rocketmip9382 Tell me, how do you function? A called B to help C. B arrived, and B was supposed to help C. B failed to do their job to help C. Who did what to whom?
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No idea whether it was. Conflicts with Gabby's mother's account. Gabby's mother never noticed anything that gave her pause. Brian seemed normal to her, and she comes across as a very nice, intelligent woman who would not have missed a warning sign.
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I thought the timeline was that Brian flew home to Florida for several days, between the police encounter and Gabby's death. It is not mentioned here. EDIT: they were apart for five days; this matters
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In previous videos, he mentions that between the police encounter and Gabby's death, Brian flew back to Florida to clean out a storage locker, then returned to rejoin Gabby. This interrupts the buildup of rage.
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Here is the timeline, available in many places including CNN: August 12 -- the videotaped police encounter we saw August 17 -- Brian flies back to Florida to clean out a storage locker and get some supplies, and possibly money August 23 -- Brian returns to Salt Lake City, rejoins Gabby; they were apart for about 5 or 6 days August 27 -- incident in restaurant, last text from Gabby to parents that was clearly from her By August 30, Gabby was dead. This timeline shows interruptions to the buildup of rage described here. It also shows that Gabby had a real opportunity to get away, or at least to talk to someone she trusted, August 17 through 22, a solid five days. Something is wrong with this picture.
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@immanuelsuleiman7550 Wow is your head in the sand.
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@christinafidance340 Do you really not know what many people are doing now? We don't know what happened in this case. I do know what I would tell a young person, though --- NEVER. Absolutely NEVER do that. Anyway, there was a reason your husband pondered that possibility. It should never be normalized.
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@amerie1987 Where did you see rage? Please quote verbatim. I don't get it. EDIT: Oh, I found it. Yes, ridiculously bad. I wonder why? A couple of posts were decent and nuanced.
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No way to analyze them without finding out what the lawyer told them to do, and the lawyer cannot divulge the details.
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@beckiehubley5798 "We Can't Consent to This" a UK website will explain that sidebar I had with someone who thinks it's just "a choice."
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@beckiehubley5798 I'm not saying this happened. I'm saying it has become normalized and is very dangerous. Needs to stop.
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@beckiehubley5798 Thanks, I appreciate it, and it's very hard to talk about. No one wants to be thought to suggest, well . . . We can't consent to this sums it up!!! ;(
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