Comments by "L.W. Paradis" (@l.w.paradis2108) on "Jordan B Peterson" channel.

  1. Being a Canadian, Peterson must know that French has two words for pride, one of which is fierte, a virtue in a classical sense. The other is orgueil, and is a sin and always has been. Yes, perhaps the worst. (So, English is impoverished? Or is imagination?)
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  2. Has she consulted an attorney?
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  3.  @charleneblack2792  Maybe you're not the person to tell her to accept responsibility? Or at least not now. Maybe at 21, her present attitude is still due to her childhood. At 21, nearly 2/3 of her life was childhood, and another 1/5 was adolescence. That's still a big chunk of the total.
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  4. ​ @marywiggins7411 Reporting her and getting a lawyer might be better. We have to get serious with these people. Enough is enough.
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  5. Dream on.
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  6.  @mfasnoza1778  An architect MUST have a formal education, and a quite broad one: some engineering, applied mathematics, applied material science, and a lot of art and art history. That's why the example was so on point.
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  7. @justanothernick3984  Why is automatic "affirming" and social transition considered the correct approach for every child? Given the complexity of the human mind, human adolescence, and gender identity during this particular time -- or any time -- how could there possibly be one valid approach? Just a decade ago, transgenderism was a rarity. The fact that it is suddenly ubiquitous should lead us to ask questions, not inflict aggressive treatments that we cannot fully reverse. Since when do we not protect the future reproductive choices of every child? The only time we didn't was during the eugenics movement.
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  8. A good lawyer could prevent a child from being removed from her state of residence. There was appropriate care available in her home state.
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  9. @Gingerblaze  No, it was a political decision on Jane Eyre's part. She knew who she was, who she was talking to, and what she needed to say. Anyone who would ask her such a thing was unworthy of her trust. She had the pure singlemindedness of a true entrepreneur, in the best sense, and she knew when and how to display her talents. Jane Eyre is rightly regarded as one of the very earliest feminists works and scandalized a lot of people because of it. It is a brilliant novel.
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  10. ​@zarbins I'm not on social media now. I'm here using a pseudonym, to save videos. I only started this much during the shutdowns in 2020. Just say NO to social media. Even this has had a harmful effect on me, and it's trivial. No minor should post any pictures of themselves, ever.
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  11.  @divisadero8859  "Thank you" for rank falsehoods? Bloom died 15 years after Wolf went public with this, AND Wolf got that doctorate in English literature from Oxford. Failures my fanny. P. S. Er, Jordan Peterson invited her to his program. That should be a hint, at least, that you should look deeper.
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  12. @theBaron0530  I had older parents who were in WWII and friends whose parents were of that generation. None were coddled in the least. Most of the people I know who went to college were expected to work to pay their own way through, and to earn scholarships by working hard in school as well. The Greatest Generation sent their children to fight in Vietnam. I was just a kid then, but I remember well the utter scorn people had for anyone who did not want to go. It was brutal. The financialization of the economy did this. The economy is unraveling. We went from the top three quintiles having a very solid and secure life, and most of those in the bottom two quintiles having a real chance, to everyone below the top 10% being precarious. We are Debtor Nation. This is obvious to anyone not prey to magical thinking.
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  13. I know this might sound glib, but honestly, we cannot be so dependent on the evaluations of others -- and yet I know very well that we live in a time when their (stupid) opinions have exaggerated importance. Bigger things than "the right college" are at stake: she needs to eat good food, get good sleep, get outside, walk walk walk . . . And read. Have her go to the library and read something she enjoys all the time . . . always have a book going that isn't on any reading list except her own. Have other interests, too, and build competence. My heart BREAKS for these kids, I knew that what they've been facing before COVID was unfair, but this has gone off the charts. All young people are at risk for depression now. It is so important to prevent that. Put the big goal first. Of course she'll be fine!
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  14. Same. The choking games are the most frightening.
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  15. ​@dehistoriapisciumfish7639 Going berserk and cutting all communications because your mother wants to read a normal book on the matter, without suggesting to you that you ought to read it as well -- yeah, that is a cult.
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  16. @GinKirk7256  It's a great book. They're misrepresenting it. Actually, Jane Eyre does confront her abusive aunt and tells her categorically that she does not love her.
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  17.  @petegiant  Please take a basic logic class. If a woman sexually assaults anyone, man or woman, alcohol is not and cannot be an excuse for her conduct, either. Who said anything different?
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  18. If you want to be a true realist, then consider that a male who is not the birth father of your children can pose a risk to them, and to you, as well. Everyone believes that the man they fell in love with is "decent," and wouldn't have fallen in love had they not believed it. There would be no violence or abuse in the family if that were true.
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  19.  @adrianazollo2688  What's worse is that they don't even like sex.
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  20. Intelligence and conscientiousness no longer predict "success" but they do predict unhappiness.
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  21. She is married. Her first husband was a journalist, and they had two children together. Her current husband is an Army veteran and a private security specialist.
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  22.  @jimluebke3869  You know what, sweetie? If after watching this video in its entirety and actually listening to what Wolf says, you don't come away with the notion that she probably likes men a LOT, a lot, then . . . maybe you need to up your game? Maybe you'd have better relationships, too? Someone has trained you to be triggered instead of listening, and you don't realize you've stopped listening. Did you miss where she talked about her husband? He's a veteran. Her eyes lit up.
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  23. The central reason I never got raped was because my father had a gun. It was known he would use it. The number of people who have confided in me that they were raped is staggering. Literally every beautiful woman I have ever known has been molested or raped, no exceptions, and often in childhood. If you believe that bad things cannot happen to good people, all I can say to you is remember 9/11.
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  24.  @kwilloughby  Perfect post.
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  25.  @highroller-jq3ix  Tavistock's gender clinic has closed, Swedish clinics and French clinics no longer routinely prescribe puberty blockers for gender dysphoria in minor children, if at all; see The Atlantic article dated April 28, 2023.
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  26. A public school needs to initiate sex education as part of health education to prepare students for puberty, and then when students attain the age of consent, they need certain information for their own safety. If it is done well, it will delay activity without ruining the experience for them when they become full-fledged adults. Do you imagine that no parents sexualize their children? Lots of evidence that they do.
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  27. What "traditional roles?" When I was born, easily a quarter of the American work force was employed in agriculture. Today, it is less than 2%. I'm wondering what you think is traditional about any role, for any person, today. That women who can stay home with preschool children will stay home has always been the case. The ones who can afford to stay home are, however, afraid that once their children are older and they want to resume their careers, they will never be accepted back in the job market again.
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  28. Well that's funny. She actually went back to school fairly recently and got her doctorate. At Oxford. You know, in England. And speaking of age, in this conversation she and Dr. Peterson discovered they were the same age. Do women, like, pass their prime earlier? (Is that you, Don?) 🤣
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  29. This is like a spreading cult. Be sure it will come to a close soon. It just feels like forever.
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  30. @criticalcommenter  You make some assumptions here. What is this lust for victim blaming we seem to indulge in with relish? Where does it come from? (Grave insecurity? Cowardice?)
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  31. @katyt7470  I love how I was just censored. We can't even discuss literature. Worry about that. EDIT: testing, to see whether it's still up
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  32. @katyt7470  When Jane Eyre came out, it was regarded as a profoundly anti-Christian book. If you missed that, read it again. Jane wasn't seen as someone who was simply self-sacrificing but also as impelled by deep eroticism. This isn't the contemporary view. This is what people thought when the book came out. It was published around 1847, roughly, and by 1848, revolutions were springing up all over Europe. Jane Eyre drew more denunciations in the contemporary journals in England as being part of the kind of thinking that resulted in radicalism. The 19th century was the golden age of the novel, and people read books differently. They tried to decipher symbols and implied messages, figure out how much of the author's life or psychology was hinted at in the book, and so forth. People were shocked by the Brontë sisters.
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  33. There has also been a lot of fraud. Notice how every supposed "solution" is more or less dubious for one simple reason: it has no solid historical record of having worked consistently and well anywhere. But one thing the "solutions" all have in common is that someone will make money. True of charter schools, true of DEI "instructors."
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  34. I am her age, and every beautiful woman I have ever known has been raped, starting with my best friend in high school, who was gang raped. I only found out recently that my best friend in college was raped as well. She only told me after her husband and father had both died. My father was an immigrant from southern Europe, he had a gun and it was known in our neighborhood that he would use it, and would go to jail if necessary. This is what kept me safe. I am keeping it real.
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  35.  @onegorgeouschick  Do children "act like victims?" Did the Olympic gymnasts "act like victims?"
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  36.  @brianmeen2158  I see it right here. Be a woman who claims she was sexually assaulted, and that such assaults in her time were committed with impunity, and expose yourself to the kind of despicable psychoanalysis and second-guessing she is being treated to in the comments. Never mind that she married twice and raised two children. Never mind that she was a very successful author. Never mind that she went back to school later in life to fulfill her dream and got her doctorate in Victorian English literature at Oxford, no less. Never mind that her husband is a US Army veteran. Never mind that she resisted the COVID hysteria and the immoral vaccine mandates. None of that matters. Well, the number of women who have confided in me that they were raped is staggering. My father had a gun. I have no doubt that that is what kept me safe in the area where I grew up. I'm not talking suburbs.
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  37. Personally, I do not know one single truly beautiful woman who was not raped. Obviously, the number of beautiful women I know well enough to know something so intimate about them and their lives is small -- but the fact remains, literally every last one was raped.
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  38.  @wandadelange1322  Cambridge was wrong, and inexplicable. A stain on them, on freedom of speech principles, certainly.
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  39. Timestamp? I see nothing anxious. Social evolution has changed the nature of marriage. Marriage used to be socially and materially essential to childbearing, and people used to seek a marriage partner in order to raise children. I hope you see that is no longer the case, and has not been for a couple of generations in the US and Western Europe.
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  40. I am sorry for their ideological agenda, because tons of what they are saying is true. Too bad they put it in service of their partisan politics. Does this have to happen, to make money and get attention? No one will listen if they don't push anger or divisiveness? What they're doing proves the critique of society is correct.
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  41. "They" did; or "it happened" . . . After a certain amount of money, nothing is your own responsibility. Not even four or more baby mamas . . .
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  42. RFK Jr looks better every day.
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  43.  @benjaminz2523  Naomi Wolf clearly likes men a LOT. Open your eyes. If you aren't reading these signals right, please rethink your approach. That could be why you aren't having the success you should have.
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  44. On top of everything, a child can't be imaginative without risking grave mutilation. Leave the kids alone.
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  45.  @jimluebke3869  Sure didn't. She said she was grateful to Peterson for inspiring her husband. I remember that clearly, and loved it, even though I am not a huge fan. I can appreciate why many people are. I guess memory is selective.
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  46.  @jimluebke3869  I'll make a deal. I will listen again with your comment in mind. To me, it sounded like she truly met her match.
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  47.  @theBaron0530  Why am I being sense___oared? Why can't I ask whether you can see my comment?
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  48. She was in therapy -- why? And he went to Russia to detox. The kids need better advocates. Stronger people.
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  49. Well, explain this to me: a woman I have known my whole life just told me she was once raped, some 30 years ago, while at college. She waited to tell me until after her father died. Of course her father didn't do it (some cop she dated one single time did), but he always told his daughters that rape is extremely rare, and that most accusations are false. I was so shocked that I still have no words. My father, on the other hand, was an immigrant, very Mediterranean, and known in our community as someone who had a gun and would use it to protect me. He wouldn't have blinked an eye. (You can figure out the rest, I hope. His realism kept me safe.) Literally every beautiful woman I have ever known has been raped -- literally raped, meeting the full legal definition -- and no one punished in a single case. Explain that. I'm boggled by it. (The social context, by the way, is heavily working class with some professional families who worked very, very hard to get where they are, kids who go to college attend a major state university, and there are few private university graduates, parents or kids, apart from the Catholic colleges.) Maybe the cohort seeking psychotherapy is less likely to have a firm grip on reality in the first place, and more susceptible to the latest media-imposed hysteria. Maybe the kids from the social background you served are more naive or in denial about how money is made, through pushing just such hysteria.
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  50.  @09bamasky  Taking off a condom without consent has been treated seriously since the AIDS epidemic, and is a crime in many countries. Even married women with children sometimes find out their husband is not who they thought he was. Sometimes they pay dearly for that lesson.
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  51.  @DavidPereiraLima123  When I needed counseling after a series of tragedies and bereavement, I kept being told I was fine (who is EVER told that?), and then getting referred to gay/lesbian therapists, one of whom was openly contemptuous. This was at a preeminent hospital. I'm fine now, although the pandemic derailed me, but getting better on my own took too long, frankly.
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  52.  @best5345  I can explain mine, too. My father was from southern Europe and knew rape was real. His natural wisdom keep me safe when I was still too young to know.
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  53. I agree with that. Some researchers have been pointing out that the best childhood vaccines, administered at the right time, make children's immune systems stronger overall and resistant to other infections, not only the one against which they were vaccinated. I say research vaccines and be sure to get those. See what other countries are doing. I always check other countries' ministries of health online, like UK, Switzerland, the Scandinavian countries, Germany, France, Netherlands, etc.
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  54.  @awsambdaman  Harsh but astute. OBVIOUSLY people need to hear it! ;/
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  55. Unless you're broke.
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  56.  @katyt7470  I disagree, but YouTube won't allow me to say why. You're making Jane Eyre insipid. She wasn't. But the need to tame her comes as no surprise.
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  57. @katyt7470  Look, I'll be censored. Sorry, I can't go back into it. In general, contemporary interpretations of classics risk being appropriated purely for contemporary goals -- especially now, when everything is politicized -- and that of course falsifies the meaning of the work. See what people said about Jane Eyre when it came out. That's what I'm basing my opinion on. I remember misunderstanding Jude the Obscure in a similar way, thinking Hardy ultimately approved of the conventional morality he described, or at least that he saw no way to advance beyond it. Wow, what a mistake. These are both radical works.
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  58. @katyt7470  This was ree moved once. Let's see if it stays up this time. See? Discussing these books is subversive. Oh, it reappeared. LOL, how ridiculous. Some algorithm could not decide!
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  59. @johnkrstyen7351  Successful people aren't worried about you. They'll say what their consultants suggest that they say, when they do need to appear in public, to garner support for whatever their next scheme is.
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  60. Maybe you don't know what that's like, to be a crime victim as a child. I frankly don't see how someone who made it as a best-selling author, really made a fortune, and then returned to school later in life to complete the doctorate she always dreamed of -- at OXFORD, no less -- and in the meantime was married to a New York Times journalist and had two children, was divorced and remarried, to a very successful US Army veteran and security expert, can possibly be "committed to being a victim." Sounds to me like she committed to being a winner, which she is. And to telling her story, no matter how much it exposes her to these insipid analyses. She couldn't be browbeaten into accepting medical interventions that she had reservations about, either. How many people resisted the push to vaccinate? She did. That's no victim. You appear to need to believe there is less rape than there is, and that it's less bad than it is. Is that true? If so, why?
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  61. I'd trust him to clean up Wall Street.
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  62. I'd love to give you a hug.
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  63. They are not ignoring "the warning signs" in the economy. They are getting ready for war.
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  64. John Money had Janet Frame committed after misdiagnosing her as psychotic. Frame was within days of being lobotomized when she won a literary award for her short stories, and the lobotomy was cancelled. How is it that no one remembers the fantastic film about Janet Frame's life? Well, that was John Money, too.
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  65. @MyPoptART  Makes perfect sense. Whether it be DEI or charter schools, the key is for money to flow upward. And it does. Cute how that works.
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  66. Oxford, Cambridge, or even Paris, Frankfort, etc., are the way to go now. I am serious. But sure, MIT.
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  67. She said that alcohol cannot be used as an excuse for the lack of consequences that was the norm for acts of sexual aggression at that time. "Alcohol was involved" means what, exactly? That wine was served with dinner, as was the custom there? What I find interesting is that this time, it was Naomi Wolf who demanded accountability and consequences for bad acts, and somehow she is getting dismissed. That seems to be the thrust of nearly every post on the topic that I see here. When Dr. Peterson points out how important accountability is, and brushes aside excuses, or anything that sounds like an excuse, everyone praises him. Why is that? P. S. Is cleaning your room more important that keeping your hands off of people who depend on your good graces and objective evaluations for their very careers?
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  68.  @petegiant  Taking a drink is not implicit consent, if that's what you're thinking. That's not the law.
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  69. What poor treatment do you refer to? The Canadian government didn't do anything to him, and he was a full professor at University of Toronto for as long as he wanted to be. Cambridge rescinded a fellowship, which was bogus, but that's in the UK. It had nothing to do with Canada.
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  70.  @glendawarn6927  At least one politician opposed that bill after speaking with Dr. Peterson. The press is, well, the press. :(
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  71.  @LawSavant  I didn't suggest that. Social evolution has made seeking a partner for procreation only one goal among others, when it used to be the central motivation, outstripping other reasons to marry by far.
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  72.  @LawSavant  As for unmarried parents, across the EU slightly more than 40% of parents have children together without marrying. France is an outlier at about 60%, but there are cultural reasons for that. Child abandonment by the father is traditionally very low in France; I can only hope that has not changed. The imperative to marry is lower when education and healthcare are a fundamental right, and fathers do not cut out and fail to support their kids. Anyway, France is not typical.
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  73.  @LawSavant  You could also look at the data on second marriages, which are significantly less likely to have childbearing as the motive.
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  74.  @LawSavant  No kidding. I'm an attorney as well, former law clerk, federal, and I have a Master's from a European university. Of course I did not write an airtight argument; I didn't even write an essay. You asked for the empirical basis for my assertions, and I sketched that out pretty summarily. Could the facts I cited admit of other explanations? Sure. It is also the case that procreation is not the central driver of marriage the way it once was; people do marry for many other reasons. Also, people raise families without getting married. As for your point about emotional connection, I assume you noticed that I said that in France, fathers stay involved with their children, married or not. And that that is not new. "Merely citing the statistics" . . . Er, not exactly.
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  75.  @LawSavant  No. That was in a separate comment. It has no bearing on the question. (But see Orwell's Politics and the English Language, today if possible.) You seemed to believe I was ignorant. Hence, I provided evidence that, you know, possibly, I am not.
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  76.  @LawSavant  P. S. Er, you aren't good at playing the Spot Informal Fallacies game, either. N. B. Identifying a trend does not imply any judgment about it at all, much less that it's a good thing. Or, as you might put it, "approbation."
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  77.  @LawSavant  Re: alleged ad hom -- Joseph Williams, Style: Lessons in Clarity and Grace You're welcome. Re: alleged appeal to authority: Is MY screen name "Law Savant?"
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  78.  @LawSavant  You raised the issue by suggesting I didn't know what I was talking about, or, to be precise, that I didn't know what constitutes a good argument. Oh but I do. The issue was not whether the cultural evolution we are discussing is GOOD, but whether it exists and is marked (it does, and it is -- and part of the reason to suspect so may be your own reaction). Those are matters of fact. (See, e.g., Hume on "is" versus "ought") Good luck with your studies. I gave you great suggestions on stuff to read. You gave me lip. No surprise. You should go far . . . in most circles.
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  79. @Quinta Perfeita  Marriage without children or children outside of marriage? I think whether a couple should have children is entirely their personal choice, and recognizing it as such, and respecting it, is unequivocally good. I think that having children outside of marriage is generally a very bad idea in the United States and may not be a problem at all in other Western countries, and having it as an option could even be a good thing. You'd have to live elsewhere for substantial periods of time to see for yourself.
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  80.  @sandman_says_runrunner4701  "These do not exist anymore?" How deluded is that??
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  81.  @fiveleavesleft6521  The people here clearly did not understand what she said. But did feel threatened by it, as if by tropism. I guess real communication is hopeless now. That's one effect of the Internet, now we know it is hopeless.
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  82.  @grannyannie2948  Sounds to me like you want to make sure everyone makes the mistakes you did. I see that a lot in older women. My mom became a mom at 35, and her sister at 46. Well, we age slower than most people, but that's not the whole story clearly. Most young women today don't have enough life experience to marry at a very young age. Sounds like someone is elevating Jeffrey Epstein's paraphilias into a quasi-norm. After all, he was fabulously rich, and all he really needed to do differently was to wait a few years to _ them.
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  83.  @dobleclanger  They were discussing cultural evolution, which is unique to human beings. I agree with everything else you said. Actually, human evolution was relatively rapid during and after the beginning of language, but we have not changed biologically very much since the rise of farming. Rich people in the Mediterranean lived to their 90s, too. :)
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  84. Considering Zizek was in the house, I suspect they did understand very well. But neither of us knows, really. I'm not sure I want to know. I'm still nurturing the hope that people who care about these things read.
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  85. @Robert Porter, in France, university admission is always always always based on achievement, and never on "aptitude" tests. The SAT is an adult IQ test, and it is not normed on women, working classes, bilingual ethnic groups of any race, etc. In France, you earn the right to advance at university based on what you have achieved so far -- which is based on hard work.
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  86. More more more Are we all morticians?
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  87. He signed for "gender affirming care" for his son himself. I guess second opinions are expensive.
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  88. ​ @pjj9491 You're in a cult. Again?
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  89.  @robertmarshall2502  YOU should write a book. This is PERFECT.
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  90.  @kwg5044  Say what?? You wrote: "Jordan's wife had nothing to do with this except for your personal censorious defensiveness." Where do you see that I did any such thing? Can you be serious? Then you conclude with, "The real question right now is why you are reacting emotionally to something I didn't say." Is everybody Hillary Clinton now? Er, um, you . . . just did what you accused me of doing. I didn't. First of all, Wolf did not make a career out of her trauma. And in fact, if she was able to produce books, and obtain a doctorate from Oxford, and meet and marry an Army man, all as the result of trauma, that is called heroism. That kind of creativity in the face of pain is among the highest achievements a human being can aspire to. (See, e.g., Dostoevsky.) That is exactly what you do with trauma. I don't know whether she did, but she certainly did not let it stop her. My strong style of writing does not mean I'm "emotional." It means I can write.
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  91.  @3dmaster205  Where do you get that "her claims blacken all of society and all men?" A demand that certain powerful men be held accountable by everyone for their despicable acts rides on the expectation that men are capable of conforming their conduct to the law and to basic tenets of morality. If you think that is too much to ask of men, then you have a very dim view of society and of men. You, not her. I think men can be real gents. Naomi's husband sounds like a peach, just as an example. I get no vibe that she doesn't like Peterson, for that matter. I get the vibe that she does.
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  92.  @eyeswideopenpod  I believe that children who are molested didn't attract it. I believe the people who perished on 9/11 didn't attract it. How about you? What do you believe?
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  93.  @jimluebke3869  "LESSER men?" That's your impression of what she said about her husband? (Or is that what you think of veterans? No, that I won't allow myself to suspect.) Wow, it did not take long to get you to give up the goods.
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  94.  @jimluebke3869  So . . . You know this about her, but none other than Dr. Jordan Peterson was fooled and invited her on, and expressed an interest to talk with her again. Well, that is a first for him, I'll say.
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  95.  @jimluebke3869  I think her husband sounds great.
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  96. I'm finding myself feeling real warmth for this economist. He does not seem to have any inclination to tell politically motivated lies. It's disconcerting, actually. I don't have to correct for what I'm hearing. I may not agree with him, but it would be an objective, intellectual disagreement. It would be such fun to talk to him and do that.
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  97.  @peteroz7332  Thanks. I can't believe what they did to the kids during the pandemic. I truly can't. Sometimes I have to let it go, I am so angry and distressed by it, and what can WE do? :/
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  98.  @DeezScotts2023  I have an idea. Please look up the legal definition of assault. I mean that sincerely -- look it up. Hypothetical scenario: you are alone in a room with a person who has huge authority over your career. The encounter started as a social event, but no one else is around now. You think you are there to have a friendly discussion, perhaps even an intellectual one, and he places he hand on your inner thigh. You make clear you do not welcome the gesture. He then moves his hand up, closer to your crotch, "just to make sure" you won't be persuaded. Is this an assault? Yes it is. You don't get to tell the victim it's no big deal.
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  99.  @DeezScotts2023  She told her story years ago, long before Bloom died.
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  100. What is "coercion leading to permissiveness?" Please explain this.
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  101.  @09bamasky  "Our justice system" accepts sworn testimony in a court of law as "actual evidence."
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  102.  @09bamasky  My best friend only told me shortly after her father died, and we've been best friends for over 40 years. Did you think this was a confidence women would share with YOU? The women I know are from many walks of life, from Harvard to community college. I'm an attorney, with a California license among others. As for the women who made accusations in response to media, I would suggest some may have withdrawn accusations also in response to the counter narrative that "it's your own fault." That appears to be a tendency you might have -- or at least, that is precisely what you just did here. In fact, you doubled it by insinuating that something must be wrong with them, and also with me because I know them. Maybe you cannot explain because you cannot explain -- not just to me, personally, but simpliciter.
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  103.  @09bamasky  Let's move on to "coercion leading to permissiveness." What's that? Whose is the agent, who is the patient, what is being done to whom? (Law is not one of the soft social sciences.)
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  104.  @09bamasky  Only you know what you meant by "coercion leading to permissiveness." You know, buried in your essay that started this thread.
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  105. No one ever taxed their way to prosperity? Oh REALLY? What do you think paid for the great land grant universities and the GI Bill, that brought the greatest period of solid economic prosperity in US history? Why do people repeat these slogans? Taxes today don't bring prosperity tomorrow, no. Even building the nation's airports and highways didn't result in overnight prosperity.
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  106. Dr. Peterson is a tremendous psychologist. I couldn't disagree more with his political views. The fact that the Canadian state is going after his psychotherapy license because they don't like his politics (!!!) and how he expresses his political views is one of the most perverse things I have ever heard. It just figures for our times. The people who want to yank Dr. Peterson's license should go into therapy with Dr. Peterson. If they can be helped at all, Dr. Peterson can help them.
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  107.  @reecegeorgens1755  Explain.
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  108. What a relief to hear someone who actually understands Adam Smith.
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  109. Well, explain this to me: a woman I have known my whole life just told me she was once raped, some 30 years ago. She waited to tell me until after her father died. Of course her father didn't do it (some cop she dated literally one single time did), but he always told his daughters that rape is extremely rare, and that most accusations are false. I was so shocked that I still have no words. My father, on the other hand, was known in our community as someone who had a gun and would use it to protect me. You can figure out the rest, I hope. His realism kept me safe. Literally every beautiful woman I have ever known has been raped, and no one punished in a single case. Explain that. I'm boggled by it.
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  110.  @best5345  She never said she was raped by him. There was no such completed act, and she never stated there was.
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  111.  @highroller-jq3ix  Then explain why these clinics have CLOSED all over Europe.
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  112.  @ParalyzedPower  Be really kind and tell them that there are a lot of children who are troubled now, and we should be careful not to make them feel unwelcome at school, or to scare them or subject them to teasing, because they are not well. All we can do is understand that they have emotional problems and we can try not to hurt their feelings. But most important, tell the kids in your family: Don't listen to those kids. They are troubled, they are lonely because of how they are, and sometimes they wish everyone else were like them, but YOU are YOU, you are fine just the way you are, and we love you. Keep it simple and clear. Loud and clear. Don't do anything to start a tug of war; that's what provokes an adolescent to side with their "friends," to "prove" they are brave and loyal.
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  113.  @highroller-jq3ix  Now address the point about a 1% failure rate (your claim; I don't believe it is that low) being absolutely catastrophic. You don't risk chemical sterilization where 100 per 100,000 will not even have the benefit you claim to be seeking.
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  114.  @Anu4343  One percent is an enormously huge number, given the nature of the harm. And that is if it is "only" one percent. We never had so many children and adolescents demanding this particular intervention, so we don't know what is driving these new patients.
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  115. @Grandma jane  You have to learn about your period and stuff. Hygiene. Fertility. I won't talk about guys. It embarrasses them too much. Today, kids do need to know about the risks of Internet porn, not to believe the stuff about choking games, etc., and other risks, from adults online.
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  116.  @andreeaalexandru7811  You sound like the nut. What hasn't she understood? What has she failed to accomplish? She even went back to school to get her doctorate -- at Oxford, no less. And she did not give in to the COVID hysteria or the vaccine push. Considering the extreme pressure and fear mongering we were all subjected to, that shows strength of character. Comes as no surprise to me that her husband is a veteran, by the way.
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  117. At one hour and twenty-eight minutes, not ONCE have I heard the word "love." Let's see about the rest.
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  118. @wakkablockablow6025  Oh you poor thing. All we hear in this video are words. We hear claims about actions. We see no actions, apart from a very pleasant handholding. I thought that was good.
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  119.  @wakkablockablaw6025  ALL YOU ARE HEARING ARE WORDS. That's what this is, an interview.
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  120. @wakkablockablow6025  In this context, where they spoke for nearly two hours about their struggles, and their loss, yes. I expect to hear the word love. What? You think I endorse this gender cr@p? I think it's sheer madness, and in some cases criminal. You edited YOUR post to add "love." You got it right the first time, it was missing. They couldn't hire a private attorney, and then go to FACEBOOK? A brick short of a load.
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  121. @wakkablockablow6025  I see you edited your post to add "love." It was missing before. You had it right the first time. After nearly two hours of talking about struggles and loss, yes. I expect to hear "love." The stepmother stated their family is irreparably broken now and that they are going public for the sake of other kids. That struck me as rather odd.
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  122. @wakkablockablow6025  What do you imagine I think? That the gender nonsense is acceptable? I think it's lunacy.
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  123. @wakkablockablow6025  What people? Do you think I endorse gender ideology? Why?? When I say what I think of it, my post gets tossed.
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  124. @wakkablockablow6025  When someone says "you people . . ." I should just block them. I wasn't condescending, but you were contemptuous. I don't assume they don't love their daughter. I see evidence that they lack the skill to communicate love to her. If her birth mother did reject her, it could be important to say they love her, loud and clear.
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  125. @wakkablockablow6025  Why is it irreparable? Even Jordan Peterson pushed back on that one. The question wasn't about step-parenting at all, and you know it. If my child is on the cusp of destroying her entire future, she comes first. And second, and third . . . Other children come in at around 15th.
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  126. @wakkablockablow6025  Oops forgot to block.
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  127. Why didn't COVID teach parents not to trust doctors?
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  128. Or, maybe she's a crime victim. She didn't take offense. She refused to accept the excuse of alcohol as a "reason" for the rampant sexual assault that Yale was known for in that period. It's interesting, in France, where people treat wine as a part of the regular diet, if a person commits a rape while drunk, that is an aggravating factor. Their prison sentence can be increased up to five years for committing such an act while drunk. "Petersen [sic] has an intellectual balanced view of most subjects and approaches evidence and current thinking in a straightforward way." Evidence? He wasn't at Yale in the 1980s. She was. Who has the direct evidence? "He also realizes her constant theme of rape and molestation can be questioned." Constant? How so? I didn't hear that. "Her predominant complete evils against women is completely women's lib based." This makes no sense. "She lays blame on men when women were also involved in fashion as one example." Not sure what you are referring to . . . "when women were also involved in fashion?" Huh? You need to do a rewrite. P. S. I don't treat Tara Reade this way. By the way.
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  129.  @mvies77  Wow. My work here is done!
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  130.  @mvies77  Opinions? What I said about the law in France is a fact. What I find interesting is that this time, it was Naomi Wolf who demanded accountability and consequences for bad acts, and somehow she is getting dismissed, or worse. When Dr. Peterson points out how important accountability is, and brushes aside excuses, everyone jumps to their feet and praises him. Why is that?
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  131.  @mvies77  My aren't we mature and well-balanced. You can't help yourself, can you? You were just calling someone else "severely affected?" DNC/Hillary move, to claim loudly that others are doing what you yourself do. Maybe listen to Peterson. He's an exponent of self-control.
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  132. Exactly.
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  133. How much real education have you had, that these two impressed you? Hanson is an inveterate warmonger, no less than Samantha Power. BTW, Elizabeth Warren never got a Harvard appointment based on her heritage. She was very good in her area of law, but much more important, MARRIED a Harvard law professor. So, she made it on terms these two would accept. (Look up "spousal hire.")
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  134. @MyGTV2000  He is really confused. This has nothing to do with Marx or Marxism; their sin was to support the very opposite, and to look down on what we today call LGBTQ. They wrote it off to "bourgeois decadence." They were decidedly unsympathetic and illiberal.
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  135. Communists supported mathematics education, and believed in material reality.
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  136. Sure, because you can always argue for an exception. Or, from another perspective, to get away with ignoring the law.
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  137.  @scobeyrowley5115  I'm a lawyer, too. This feature of common law also makes it easier to hide bribery.
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  138. Agreed
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  139. ​@garyandtricia1 Of course. If any video contains any objectionable content, the ENTIRE video will be removed by YT. YT itself counts on content creators to self-edit, to prevent their entire video from going away.
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  140. With social media, about 95% want to spy and be informants on their neighbors. Plus the people who started those companies were overnight billionaires. = capitalism Face it.
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  141. Only an illiterate can think that. This is a gross misreading of Nietzsche.
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  142. @pisceananarchyvortex7223  The judge still has to rule based on the law and the facts. Removing a child not just from their parental home but from their home state is remarkable. Can a lawyer win every case? No. But there is no reason presented here that would make me think they would have lost this one. Do you seriously believe a rich family would have lost? The more you act like rich people do (by hiring a high-powered lawyer, getting a consultant for social media rather than embarking on it on your own, especially where the well being of a minor child is concerned), the better the result. I'm not saying it's fair. Obviously it isn't. I'm saying it is clearly doable.
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  143. Few people would have done what Dr. Jensen did.
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  144.  @skinksinthecity  Well, not sure what you replied to as I was censored.
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  145.  @okgroomer1966  Wolf is the one who came from a poorer background. Trump is the one who failed to act when he first knew about the pandemic, he is the one who lifted the moratorium on the funding of gain of function research in places like Wuhan in the first place, he is the one who pushed Operation Warp Speed, he let Fauci run the country instead of firing him, and he assassinated an Iranian general who many people believed was a bulwark against rag-tag terrorists groups all over the Middle East. Trump had him droned without figuring out who he was, or whether he had any value to US security interests. Trump was a narcissist who signed whatever piece of paper the biggest flatterer put in front of him. He only looks good next to Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden.
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  146. No one ever taxed their way to prosperity? Oh REALLY? What do you think paid for the great land grant universities and the GI Bill, that brought the greatest period of solid economic prosperity in US history? Why do people repeat these slogans? Taxes today don't bring prosperity tomorrow, no. Even building the nation's airports and highways didn't result in overnight prosperity.
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  147. Dark Triads make the most money. Look there.
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  148.  @DP-ym4dg  It's shocking to read this, isn't it. Collective guilt? Are those newcomers who put down roots in California usurpers of Mexican land? Are all Europeans in America guilty of mass incarceration? Are all Americans guilty for Guantanamo? Even Michael Ratner? We forget how disturbed some people are, and how they are praised for it in the US (as are drug users, and gurus, and followers of gurus, etc.). No wonder "they" have dropped the most bombs on the rest of humanity, and cannot name the places they've bombed. (But who is "they?" Not a simple question, is it? The ardent bombers and those ignorant of the bombs are not the same.)
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  149. If you are denouncing your family members, who are not here to defend themselves, under your true name, on this medium, then you are correct that you do need psychological treatment. You'd have to threaten my life to get me to do that. No one could persuade me to do it for cheap approval. Or, say, dirty money.
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  150.  @jamesbirchfield2195  You mean Jordan Peterson followers approve of denouncing one's deceased family members? I would have thought not, I mean that sincerely. I don't see that in his work. P. S. Go clean your room. Sometimes it fits.
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  151.  @JordanBPeterson  Honesty? You don't denounce your father or mother or grandparents. Pfft.
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  152.  @ElenaRoche  You still don't get it. I categorically reject the concept of "collective guilt." This is vague, poorly analyzed, and, for something so serious, completely unacceptable. Moreover, if everyone is guilty, no one is, and the very concept is then wielded like a weapon, with the first to accuse very often in a position of unmerited dominance. That's a stupid game. On second thought, maybe you do get it. You will collect the praise. David Riesman was right. (I always edit for spelling and such. Writing is editing. )
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  153.  @DP-ym4dg  She was caught in an obvious lie, and was praised. Shows you a lot about the trajectory America is on. This is the rule now.
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  154.  @ElenaRoche  For example, "Miss Arendt referred to the post-war climate in Germany -- where those personally innocent during the Nazi period all admitted to their "collective guilt" while the real criminals showed no remorse as "the quintessence of moral confusion." The concept of collective guilt, as opposed to individual guilt, is "senseless," Miss Arendt said, and only serves as an effective "whitewash" for guilty individuals to hide behind." (1964) Precisely.
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  155.  @DP-ym4dg  You're probably right. BTW, I'd like to know your reading list. Not kidding.
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  156.  @DP-ym4dg  I am so turned off by people who come to America and denounce their families. James Baldwin wrote about that demand, which American society places on immigrants who want to "succeed" (i.e., make money for not doing much). The demand is repugnant, and acceding to it is base. But Americans lap it up. It's part of the culture. No wonder so many people are lost.
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  157.  @ElenaRoche  You posted it here. People "face painful truths" all the time without posting. I expected you to take it down, frankly, but the up votes of complete strangers who don't wish you well -- not really -- might be more important to you. That's not called facing truth, that's called assimilating for perceived advantage.
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  158.  @DP-ym4dg  No. ;( Speak French, though.
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  159.  @ElenaRoche  You could not get me to describe my grandfather as "muttering to himself," and do it online no less, without threatening me with a weapon. For example.
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  160.  @DP-ym4dg  If you can follow French, Emmanuel Todd recently gave a great conference at Dialogue Franco-Russe. It was an excellent summary of what most Europeans know, and is not generally known in the US.
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  161.  @ElenaRoche  So, this didn't happen; it's not factual, but an opinion. That would explain the impossible date. But then it's not about "facing painful truths," it's about expressing popular opinions, for pandering purposes perhaps. I believe you. It does sound like opinion styled as fact, like all the phony memoirs that became best sellers. I can't blame anyone for that. I think it's kind-of humorous.
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  162.  @DP-ym4dg  Baldwin was best in analyzing it, how I miss him! I was living in France when he died there. Have you read, "It's Me, Eddie?" The incomparable BBC documentarian Adam Curtis turned me on to that book, and to the story of Afeni Shakur as well. "It's Me, Eddie," is about as profane as Henry Miller, so it requires a warning, but it's great.
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  163.  @DP-ym4dg  Oh well! ;( I tried.
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  164.  @ElenaRoche  I see you put in a little edit. Same nonsense, but by changing a key word it avoids confronting the seminal texts and thinkers on the subject, or proposing real solutions to real problems. Your posts are perfect examples of gish gallops -- where does someone start? By sheer accident, though, they happen to pander to the worst prejudices of the target audience. The irony is rich -- it's you who is deftly avoiding "painful truths." I wonder if any of the people who posted in this thread praising you were called to their senses, and resolved not to be duped in the future, or to denounce deceased family members in public. I hope so, and I bet some did. That's what matters. (You do recognize Hannah Arendt, correct?)
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  165.  @DP-ym4dg  Find someone to translate Emmanuel Todd for you. Most of what he says you already know, but it's wonderful to hear his theoretical framework, which is unique, and it's nice to know that others are clued in. He did his doctorate at Cambridge, though he is French, and he integrates insights from anthropology and archeology into his analysis.
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  166.  @ElenaRoche  It's an opinion. No problem. You claim terrible things about your family. No problem. Le champs vous est libre. There was no USSR in 1997, as several posts already pointed out. 1997 was during Clinton's second term, when Russia was being subjected to neoliberal looting. But we can opine about anything we like. No one asked about age. (I'm the one who disapproves of oversharing confidential matters online, remember?)
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  167.  @ElenaRoche  Anyway, I have better things to do. So long.
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  168.  @DP-ym4dg  The conference is great, though, at Dialogue Franco-Russe, with current demographic data on the US and Russia. All in one hour. His books are dense. (Well, academic, you know?)
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  169.  @ElenaRoche  If you need to believe I'm the fantasist (and you need to let everyone know, in this group of strangers), well then you will. You can't pass it up. Rereading your first post, your denunciations of your own family are uglier than I had remembered. That fires up the masses here. Perhaps you should consider speaking to a real person about your issues, rather than relying on a YouTube personality.
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  170.  @ElenaRoche  You thought I questioned the date not because it is an obvious historical falsehood, but because you look young, and you think someone else has fantasies? I didn't look at you.
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  171. Obviously false. Infant lives matter more than any other, and they don't even know about others' lives. Adults who do not respect the lives of others may still repent. Predatory animals' lives may have value that people with diverse value systems can nevertheless agree on. There's three examples right there.
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  172.  @debbylou5729  Did either of you read it? I'm reading it now.
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  173.  @katyt7470  So consider: I am not allowed to develop an argument, but tossing off a word like "insipid" without justifying it is fine. What do you think about that? I think we couldn't be in a worse way as far as communication is concerned.
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  174. @katyt7470   Look, I'm being scents er . . . d again! I can't say names of books. In general, contemporary interpretations of classics risk being appropriated purely for contemporary goals -- especially now, when everything is politicized -- and that of course falsifies the meaning of the work. See what people said about Jane Eyre when it came out. That's what I'm basing my opinion on. I remember misunderstanding Jude the Obscure in a similar way, thinking Hardy ultimately approved of the conventional morality he described, or at least that he saw no way to advance beyond it. Wow, what a mistake. These are both radical works.
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  175. @katyt7470  I think that's a great interpretation. Very eloquent as well. The notion of a "church of one," and God in direct communication with one's own conscience, is very much an American notion, and is highly anachronistic for England. The God you describe could also be the God of Judaism, Islam, and to a great extent Plato as well, not to mention Antigone. In other words, it is a very abstract idea, and just happens to be Christian (or seem to be Christian) because Jane happened to have been born where she was. You're exactly right, the established church of that time thought it was scandalous, which is a totally different issue. America had no such thing as an established church even then. So in some ways, we can see more in Jane Eyre because of that, not less.
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  176. Doesn't this sound like dystopian fiction? That wouldn't be popular as dystopian fiction, too weird?
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  177. What do you mean?
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  178. In two years, this sure did not age well.
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  179. ​@Flowersandtrees And force them to take . . . You know. Forget it.
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  180. @callak_9974  Why is it that the very best school systems in history did no such thing?
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  181. @emilymiller1792  Notice how every supposed "solution" is more or less dubious for one simple reason: it has no solid historical record of having worked consistently and well anywhere. But one thing the "solutions" all have in common is that someone will make money. True of charter schools, true of DEI "instructors."
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  182.  @callak_9974  Show me where this has worked. Is McDonald's going under? Pfizer? Facebook? A mantra does not make it so.
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  183.  @emilymiller1792  Too bad about the scents or sheep here.
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  184. @emilymiller1792  No, not usually. They are hired by private businesses or by school systems to teach employees how to "interrupt racism." (Before the recent war in Gaza, Norman Finkelstein wrote some pretty funny commentary on that.)
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  185. @emilymiller1792  Answered your question but it's _______ .
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  186. @emilymiller1792  Exactly! I shall not say more. (This is sad.)
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  187. Oh wow, this "genius" of the history of warfare cannot pronounce the name of the general who defeated the Nazis in Operation Barbarosa. He doesn't come close.
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  188. @BlessedTruly, my friend's nephews live in a conservative Republican state and still were asked their pronouns. They live in a nice suburb.
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  189.  @BlessedTruly2014  I was surprised, too. :/
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  190. Hierarchical struggle as the motor of history is "absolutely true," and characterizes all human societies as part of our biology, according to Peterson? Marshall Sahlins addressed this. NEVER did Marx suggest that the bourgeoisie was the repository of all "evil" -- MUCH to the contrary. He considered it a great revolutionary force that embodied progress. He did not think history began with capitalism. My God. Peterson is misrepresenting the Communist Manifesto so much by minute 10, and in favor of the unscientific mysticism of a Jung? This is sad. Only people who have already made up their minds are impressed. More proof no one reads, and votes up self-serving discourses. Actually, communists were never as corrupt as capitalists. Communists prevented at least two nuclear exchanges, capitalists dropped two bombs as a demonstration of power, not to end the war.
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  191. 13:03 No real leftist would say any such nonsensical, scurrilous thing. Ask, say, Clementine Autain.
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  192.  @TheBigJord  You think she is wrong about the 1980s? Why?
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  193.  @blakebunch4485  You were there. Interesting.
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  194.  @larryc5361  She is married to an Army veteran who is a private security analyst.
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  195.  @blakebunch4485  Oh really? That leading professors who were lauded everywhere and who had control over MANY other people's careers were in fact using their positions to demand sexual favors with impunity is just another "me too" story? First of all, Wolf came out with her accusations YEARS ago, long before it was fashionable, and many have corroborated her account concerning the atmosphere of impunity at Yale during those years. You just haven't been paying attention. No, this has more in common with the Jeffrey Epstein story, as far as I'm concerned. Just add three to five years to the ages of the victims. I think people are just jealous of anyone who went to an Ivy. Maybe she earned it. She recently went back for a doctorate, later in life, to fulfill her dream despite not needing it in any material sense. She went to Oxford for that. She likes to work hard, clearly. Her current husband (only her second, nothing strange there) is a US Army veteran, by the way.
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  196. What I find interesting is that it was Naomi Wolf who demanded accountability and consequences for bad acts, and somehow she is getting dismissed. When Dr. Peterson points out how important accountability is, and brushes aside excuses, everyone praises him. Why is that? If you didn't hear that, listen again. Start from the top.
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  197.  @TheBigJord  "Blind rage?" So, all Americans are unhinged now. I should have figured that out by 2021 if I didn't know in 2008. Her point was about personal responsibility, something that liberals are always accused of forgetting. I never have. Neither did she, as was clear when she refused to follow the crowd and shut off her own thinking processes and her own questions concerning the COVID vaccines. I can write. That doesn't mean I'm "emotional." That means . . . I can write. :)
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  198.  @TheBigJord  This was all I said to you directly: "You think she is wrong about the 1980s? Why?" I also made the general statement about holding people accountable for their actions. And you found "blind rage." You know, in France, where wine is a part of the diet, if a rape is committed while drunk, the perpetrator can receive up to five more years in prison. Drunkenness is an aggravating factor. I find that interesting. They are puzzled why anyone would consider it exculpatory in any way.
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  199.  @TheBigJord  All I said was, why do you think the 1980s at Yale were not as she describes them? (And why would alcohol be an explanation instead?) As Naomi Wolf said, when people at a place like Yale know there will be serious consequences for bad acts, then they don't risk those consequences. These are Yale people. They calculate. They have $omthing to lo$e. Simpler than you're making it. Don't confuse her remarks with contemporary "hook up" culture, binge drinking, frat parties where strippers, spiked drinks, and alcohol poisoning are not rarities, and the bizarre and horrible Title IX abuses of today. Those did not exist back then. The lady will be 60 this year. She could be the grandmother of a college student.
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  200.  @TheBigJord  "The blind rage to me comes in with you assuming that I’m against her on every point when I never said that. You want to create a bogey-man out of me so bad when there isn’t any need for it. " Huh? Are you sure you meant to direct this to me? Honey, talk to someone nice tonight.
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  201.  @TheBigJord  ". . . frat parties where strippers, spiked drinks, and alcohol poisoning are not rarities" -- which certainly were very rare in 1982, in absolute terms and by comparison with now. Though conduct that gross is still relatively unusual, thank god. Yeah, she did know the ambience at Yale back then. She is smart. She was there. Look, you have a problem. Blocked.
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  202.  @crabtrap  I have only seen such correction occur in France, never in the United States. Not ONE time.
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  203.  @tamedshrew235  People who have studied actual acts of heroism report that the person acts automatically. They literally do not think, they do -- at least that's their inner perception. It does not matter whether they are Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindu, Jewish, or agnostic. When people do have time to reflect and act heroically, that is remarkable. Like Vasili Arkhipov, who literally saved the world.
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  204.  @tamedshrew235  My main point was that this is not how heroic acts are undertaken. Actually, the best journalistic description of heroism that I've read were by Chris Hedges, who is an ordained minister. EDIT: I mention that as an interesting coincidence, but also to make the point that a divinity school graduate analyzed this differently, after having spent decades as a war correspondent.
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  205. I used to dislike Peterson. After his recent bout with drug reactions and habituation, etc., I feel for him more than I did. This audience reaction for the most part reflects the fact that people do not read, and that they greatly reward self-serving discourses. The fact that they do more and more is a bad sign, not a sign of healthy self-criticism or resilience. That a Peterson can make millions on this spiel is a bad sign. I think that Peterson himself realizes it, and even worries about it at times. He is one odd dude. Some combination of Jung and Nietzsche gets recycled every few decades in right-leaning Western societies, and Peterson caught the wave and really rode it this time. He also has had a lifelong obsession with Russia, another tell. Westerners get obsessed with various "mysterious, enigmatic" non-Western peoples on a regular basis, with Russia being a favorite of those who cannot relate as much to people of color. (So, Tibetan Buddhism won't work.) It's all so predictable. He did do one good video, on creativity, at a major Canadian art museum. It wasn't political, and he was so much more honest and spontaneous in that one. It's the only one of his I've ever seen that I like.
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  206.  @diegom6085  I think you're right.
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  207. Amusing to listen to people talking about "capitalism" who either do not know what capital is, or deliberately lie about what it is.
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  208. You are a sweetheart!!
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  209.  @erickrajniak8424  Sounds like an excellent start. This has become a new cult.
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  210. @erickrajniak8424  When vaccine mandates first were imposed, those who resisted really felt sure there was no hope. Well, more people were reinstated with back pay than I would ever have thought. Even the EEOC cautioned employers not to dismiss all religious objections. One woman who was pregnant and felt, from a spiritual standpoint, that she had a sacred duty to do everything to protect her baby, and took all steps to register her sincere religious objection to the vaccine, was fired, and then she sued, and won. :)
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  211. @RadiusG60  A good education was a leftist value. Under Mitterrand, French kids could start Ancient Greek in 5th grade, and complete two years of college-level Mathematics in high school. The Soviets gave medals for achievement in Mathematics and Physics, not just music or sports. Le Monde printed notices of births, deaths, marriages, and doctoral thesis defense, and the student who wrote the best philosophy essay for the baccalaureate was interviewed on all the major media outlets. Mélenchon wants to bring back more Latin and Greek. By comparison, DEI, LGBTQ, and all this stuff look like strategies to make a quick buck, divide everyone, and turn them away from what matters.
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  212.  @robzombie5928  How interesting that my post about actual socialists in Europe and details on how they give kids a classical education is . . . You guessed it. Every time.
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  213. Reality. Thanks, now I can exhale.
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  214.  @jim6038  You are talking about Title IX abuses at universities, which I agree are horrendous. The tide on that has turned as the result of many lawsuits, that were very expensive for the first victims of the abuses. Look up the criminal statute in your state concerning rape and sexual assault and see what it describes. It is obvious that a woman committing the same acts specified in the statute against another person, regardless of sex, would be held criminally liable. (The differences in anatomy are not significant as a matter of law, given that nonconsensual digital sexual penetration or sexual penetration using some object are illegal.) If a woman gets drunk to do that, I would consider enhancing the penalty, as they do in some other countries.
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  215. I have been too compassionate in life, so I'm going to say this from that perspective. Please carefully consider dropping this "friend." I know that's harsh, but please. Think about it, and listen to that inner voice. If you remain friends with her, chances are you will regret it. And if you do come to regret it, drop her then.
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  216. So why did she go to therapy?? And he had to go to Russia to detox. Okay. Tootles.
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  217. @ijustwannaleaveacommentony6511  These are not just "women;" these are my close friends who didn't want to discuss it, and who told me at a time when they knew they would be blamed for it --- LONG before any hashtags, or even an Internet.
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  218.  @wandadelange1322  Didn't work for the Nazis, did it, unless you consider the rat line good.
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  219.  @Danne1886  Not at all. Supporters of the BDS boycott of Israel, wise or not, were fired and blackballed outright. No one is trying to make Jungian psychoanalysis illegal or defining it as racist, and no one prevents Peterson from teaching or continuing his clinical practice. He's making more money in other pursuits. Maybe you should heed your own counsel? I've read Nadine Strossen on why we should reject hate speech laws. Have you?
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  220.  @Danne1886  You suggested that I care much less about scrutinizing the truth of claims that fundamental rights are being violated when people who (appear to) have very different politics from Peterson's are asserting that their rights are being violated. I just automatically believe them, no questions asked. What made you think so? Did you start with yourself? Throwing in trendy German words adds nothing to the argument. If you want to go off on a tangent about "the Zeitgeist," we can talk about all the states that passed anti-BDS laws. BTW, I'm not even sure BDS is wise, and tend to think not. I know it should not be illegal.
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  221.  @Danne1886  You're the one who jumped to a wrong conclusion about me, and then swore. Perfect. Thanks for making my point.
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  222.  @Danne1886  Nah, you just can't reason or express yourself without the most vapid cliches (trigger, clutch pearls, cudgel, whataboutism, LOL). I prefer the f word. It has a nobler history. You think I should admit I'm wrong about something? You don't even know what I said. Of course you don't have any idea how many people have been fired over BDS.
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  223.  @Danne1886  " The next time you see a lefty making claims of systemic oppression, I hope you keep the same energy . . . " --- if you already forget you wrote that, eat more fish and greens and get more exercise.
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  224.  @Danne1886  I did not. I claimed he chose to leave his position as tenured professor and his clinical practice.
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  225.  @Danne1886  Fish and greens. No joke.
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  226.  @Danne1886  I have no information about the Canadian government either way. But nothing from any Five Eyes government would ever, EVER surprise me, especially after COVID.
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  227.  @Danne1886  That was in the context of his university tenure! And his free speech rights in general. That was the issue. Cambridge was disgraceful, and I said so, because it was. That's what we were talking about. No wonder I didn't recall this failure on my part to "admit" what you're blathering about. You have some evidence that he suffered an unwarranted probe into his taxes for purposes of harassment? Why not tell us? (As for audits, who hasn't had one?) Tell me, does he also get pulled over for speeding because pronouns?
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  228.  @Danne1886  I just searched for this "frivolous tax investigation" you speak of, in press generally highly favorable to him, as well as MSM. No sign of it. Clue us in.
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  229.  @Danne1886  IOW, just your opinion. It's also when he started to make money online. Or, it could have been random. A tax audit, standing alone, is not a violation of rights. It's not the government "doing something" to you. I couldn't even find it reported!
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  230.  @Danne1886  Of course, I couldn't find evidence that he was audited in the first place.
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  231. You know who was healthy? The kids who could pay their entire year of in-state tuition and fees and books with a summer job. And could take that degree to any city and afford an apartment without having a trust fund. Needless to say, they had little or no debt. They had agency all right. Anyone barely out of high school who says they have "agency" now might be conforming to the new rhetorical standard -- or they might be deluded.
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  232. No doctor will tell you that is safe. They don't want anyone to try it unsupervised.
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  233.  @metalted6128  Mansplaining was when a man explained to a woman that she was unaware of the latest research on some topic or other, not knowing and not wanting to hear that that very woman wrote the research paper he was quoting to her. That happened to Rebecca Solnit. Her friend kept trying to tell the guy, "Rebecca wrote it." It took a long time to register. It's like when a man starts telling a woman mathematician about some simple algebra, not knowing she teaches real analysis at Stanford. :)
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  234.  @Richard_Potato  Maybe because she returned to school later in life and got her doctorate at Oxford? That could be it.
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  235.  @Richard_Potato  Actually, no, that is not correct. The IQ measure, which you seem to assume is a measure of "intelligence," is actually highly correlated, and regarded as highly predictive, of formal educational attainment in the present system of secondary and higher education. What can happen and what usually happens are two different things. A person of normal intelligence may or may not have a high IQ, and may or may not attain a doctorate at Oxford. Whether we can nevertheless consider attaining a doctorate at Oxford, especially later in life out of pure intellectual desire, as a marker of a high IQ is beside the point you've made. It need not be such a marker -- no necessity there, as Bertrand Russell used to say. On the other hand, it almost always is. Yeah. This took only a couple of minutes. Glad I could help.
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  236.  @Richard_Potato  Did you actually think you got me or something? LOL
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  237.  @Richard_Potato  I'm sorry you did not understand my post, or what performance on an IQ test (or any other aptitude test) means, or pretty much anything else I said. I will not take the obvious jab at what that might mean about your "intelligence." That would be cheap, and of course incorrect. You are obviously flustered. IQ tests do not measure "intelligence;" there is no test that can, for lots of reasons. IQ tests correlate very strongly with educational attainment in the present system, as it is commonly found in the West. You really don't know what either you or I are arguing. That's kind of . . . funny. (You bring up drink. Is there a reason it came to mind?) BTW, didn't you know that there have been some Nobel Prize winners in the hard sciences who had a rather ordinary performance on IQ tests, documented? Even Roger Penrose was not considered gifted in math because he really took his time and did problems slowly when he was young. Already as a child, he understood that the right answer was more important than the fast answer. He already knew math was different from other things he was being taught. (You do know that IQ tests are timed, correct? Speed strongly influences score. See the preceding paragraph and make a conjecture as to why there are true geniuses in this world who did not perform well on IQ tests.) And Russell is famous for making the distinction between necessary truths and contingent ones, and deepening our understanding of their ground, later using various pithy formulations when making the point in his talks. In any case, a person's performance -- in writing books, in completing a doctorate at Oxford -- is evidence of their intelligence. There is no need for some test to "prove" what is already known with greater certainty by other, more reliable, means. These aptitude tests usually take a few hours, and only rarely may be administered over a number of days. What someone actually does with their life, over years and years, trumps whatever those tests might turn up.
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  238.  @Richard_Potato  Yeah, that's what people thought when it was believed we were born with all the neurons we would ever have. That was found to be false nearly two generations ago. Tell me, do you also think clinical depression is due to a "chemical imbalace" that SSRIs "fix?" Oh, and is it "genetic," too?
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  239.  @Richard_Potato  As long as you have no influence over people, I suppose it doesn't matter what you think. You couldn't be a doctor and are highly unlikely to be a lawyer, that's evident; I cringe to think you might be an educator. That field attracts every stripe.
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  240.  @Richard_Potato  I was referring to your express definition and characteristization of intelligence, which is wrong. It is so wrong that I'm not interested in reviewing what was said so far, a good while ago, formulating a lengthy response, and taking any more time with it. In short, you believe a wholly discredited view of the human brain, its nature, and how it functions. If you don't know about all that, you surely do not understand what intelligence is. You are debating about words, not the things they describe.
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  241.  @Richard_Potato  Well, this is old. I've moved on. Try reading Norman Doidge's books, which give a popular account of contemporary findings concerning neuronal networks and what has come to be known as neuroplasticity -- although even he strikes me as somewhat overstating the case (in that the most remarkable people give us an idea of what may be possible, but certainly not what is typical, at our present state of knowledge), but it is the case in favor of what I'm saying. Interestingly enough, he taught at Toronto and is good friends with Jordan Peterson. So you're safe reading him. ;)
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  242. It's the most affluent who they are focusing on. None of this describes the majority who have to work. They are worrying about their own. That's normal.
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  243. She's making bank for her own. That's the sum total of what's up with her. IOW, the usual.
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  244.  @davejones9469  Do you realize how much you sound like Hillary Clinton with your massive projection? (How did that b---- get to have the influence she did, to the point where people imitate her all the time? Still a mystery to me.)
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  245. Clearly recorded long ago.
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  246. Was this ever reported in the press? This is remarkable. Everyone should have an exit plan (emigration).
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  247. Hanson supports war more than Hillary does, if that's possible. I grant you, it may not be. In any event, don't be so easily led.
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  248.  @jackabel4499  Hanson supports war more than Hillary does, if that's possible. (I grant you, it may not be.) In any event, don't be so easily led. I agree with the post that said read more. Not that I have any hope in seeing that.
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  249. Plus this is much bigger than money.
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  250. It's worse than that: at 40, the typical woman is at her sexual peak. So sad she doesn't know, and perhaps better.
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  251. There are a handful of childhood/adolescent vaccines that are very safe and beneficial for most people, and the young were missing those and taking these instead. Disgrace.
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  252. They sound idiotic to me. Instead of hiring a real lawyer, they take this to FACEBOOK??
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  253. ​@GraceHarwood88 What is "behaving normally?" We've had women astronauts, men in nursing, girls whose best subject was math, boys whose favorite subject was French, . . . And???
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  254. Every solid European system uses knowledge-based education.
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  255.  @LawSavant  P. S. Your style is too pretentious. Work on that.
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  256.  @LawSavant  You seem to think I'm advocating for the cultural evolution I've described. Why?
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  257.  @LawSavant  I like your dog thumbnail.
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  258.  @LawSavant  Even better.
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  259. @Quinta Perfeita What is something good?
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  260. @Quinta Perfeita I wonder if one of my replies was shadowed. To take the example of marriage without children: when I was 18 or 19, I thought that was tragic. Today, almost all of the happy marriages I know are without children. It used to surprise me, and I thought those "must be" exceptions. Then I gained more life experience, and the numbers kept rising on one side only.
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  261.  @chet9128  "You get what you give?" I would take that deal every time.
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  262.  @mikesmith-nj1ij  Human nature is to be more radically adaptable than any other living species, and in particular, to be cognitively flexible. No other species has language or culture, and the range of ways of life human societies have created through time and space is astounding. If you start with your own way of life, you could never imagine how other peoples have lived and live now.
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  263. @grannyannie2948  You're the one who wrote some of the most vicious, embittered posts on this whole thread, no mean feat (pun intended). Hence you do sound as though you made mistakes a' plenty, and have taken to advising minor teens to do likewise.
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  264.  @jenniferwildflower4249  Exactly. Why does no one else know this? The attacks all miss the mark completely. I think they are just jealous of her because of her second husband, who sounds like an absolute peach.
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  265. Super analysis of Piaget. Really wow.
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  266.  @stuartmoore6310  I think the fact that we cannot trust other people's perceptions anymore is the most frightening thing. You could time stamp everything, and it would make no difference. What I find interesting is that it was Naomi Wolf who demanded accountability and clear consequences for bad acts, and somehow she is getting dismissed. When Dr. Peterson points out how important accountability is, and brushes aside excuses, everyone praises him. Why is that?
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  267. I self-funded Sorbonne, had to learn a third language to go. But that's misleading: under the leftist government in France at the time, all universities in France were tuition-free for everyone. A thousand a month to live meant having everything you needed.
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  268. Why is my post shadowed, but I keep getting notifications to additional replies in the thread? I'd rather have what La République Française gave to all qualified applicants alike (and my own work and savings) than to benefit from what the Gates Foundation decided to bestow upon me.
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  269. ​@dudebruh88 I recommend listening to someone who actually did it: David Goggins.
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  270. How so?
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  271. That's funny. I was just reading a book by Norman Doidge, a friend of Jordan Peterson's, who made the point about the extreme variability in what human beings find attractive in a mate, and how neuroplasticity in humans (something that is the product of our evolution, and has made us the most adaptive species on earth) has led to that remarkable variability. The book is called The Brain That Changes Itself. BTW, any man who doesn't see that Naomi Wolf really likes men, and hence expects good behavior form them, might want to stop pointing fingers and look in the mirror instead. If you don't know how to read women to that extent -- that you don't see that Wolf is a woman who likes men a lot -- then you might want to work on that for the sake of not missing out on a good thing the next time she crosses your path.
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  272. You mean no one knows that Hanson is a warmonger? Wow. He can give Hillary or Samantha Power a run for their money.
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  273. Their focus is on the most affluent and the students who are admitted to the Ivies. No one who has to work has these problems. They have real problems.
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  274. @haydenwayne3710  This is just another move in the one-upmanship game. They know what to say to get special consideration in school, at work, etc.
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  275. @haydenwayne3710  Here's an idea. She has a Yale Law degree. Why doesn't she represent some parents whose children have been harmed? I know they exist. I've represented severely handicapped children and children with cancer pro bono, with my little state school degree. We need to start seeing through all of these people. Don't buy her book. Buy your kids some books.
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  276. Good observation
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  277. It was interesting. I did not suffer much guilt. I suffered intense fear and isolation.
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  278. Those eight-figure bonuses had nothing to do with it . . . 😂
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  279. "You're going to pay me enough in one year to set me up for life, and after five years, my children and grandchildren will be set for life? No! No! I can't take that money! Taking it would be wrong!!!"
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  280. 💯
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  281. @arthur0227  And the men who defend him are unmanly. I'll say it. 😅
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  282. I don't mean this as advice, but as a sincere question (this means the answer could be "no"). Is it acceptable to teach children to refuse to answer various kinds of highly personal questions from other adults, including school? That's what my immigrant parents taught me. Questions of this nature are a violation of privacy. They have nothing to do with parental abuse or neglect, where teachers, therapists, and medical professionals are mandated reporters -- and rightly so. I'm raising this for purposes of discussion. Could this cause more problems than it solves? How do you avoid these invasive questions without attracting attention?
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  283. Sane and stone cold crazy -- there is also that. I'm "Euro-left" and this new mob active here is something I cannot recognize except as pathological. I have no explanation for the new insanity. Peterson just called it a toxic brew. He is being too kind.
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  284. We need to talk about self-mutilation. We do. Why is this happening?
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  285. Marx was a real pater familias. This is sheer bourgeois decadence. And they are convincing you of nonsense. "Marxist" is just the new code word. They are talking about the top 10%, which is their focus. It's natural. It's their crowd. It has nothing to do with my life -- probably not yours, either.
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  286. @Dean, Hanson is a relentless warmonger and Peterson makes many good points but gets stuck too often in ressentiment and surprising flashes of inexplicable anger -- which in 2023 is a sure moneymaker. I studied ancient Greek philosophy in Paris, BTW. I think I can evaluate these two cogently.
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  287. Hanson is a backward warmonger. His way will lead to more problems for the US, at least at this juncture. Apart from the sheer immorality of it! He is no different from the DNC in that regard. (Blech!!)
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  288.  @axhed  It might sound that way if you don't, like, read and stuff. (My room is messy. Books all over.)
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  289. What I find interesting is that it was Naomi Wolf who demanded accountability and consequences for bad acts, and somehow she is getting dismissed. When Dr. Peterson points out how important accountability is, and brushes aside excuses, everyone praises him. Why is that? This was not a therapy session, by the way. Wolf is an immensely accomplished person and even went back to school late in life to complete her doctorate, at OXFORD. She resisted the COVID hysteria. And her husband is a veteran. Sounds to me like a truly successful life. If someone like that can still feel what it was like to be a vulnerable, idealistic, naive teen at Yale, in awe of all the famous people there who turned out to have feet of clay, then maybe that really is a big deal? When Dr. Peterson's wife became ill, he himself had a problem, with prescribed drugs. You don't hold that against him, do you? Then why this?
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  290.  @kwg5044  Gee, thanks. No snark from me, either. My late dad was a vet, too . . . WWII, ultimately with the 8th British Army (he was from Yugoslavia). When he got very old, and had to have a very long operation, some of the aftereffects of his wartime trauma resurfaced. I was an only, took care of him alone. The most recent close friend I've made was a Marine for 13 years, joined right after 9/11, then went to art school on the GI Bill. (He doesn't like debt. :) BTW, one thing I've always liked about Naomi Wolf is that she obviously likes men a lot.
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  291.  @3dmaster205  Men in general did not assault her, two specific men did. Some men (and probably some women as well) made it easier for those who did to do so. I see no general statements about general men.
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  292.  @3dmaster205  Sure, dear. Say. I have an idea. Turn off the sound and watch the (very beautiful, not that it matters) facial expressions and gestures. There you go.
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  293.  @benjaminz2523  All I can say to people like you is THANK GOD my father was an immigrant, very Mediterranean, had a gun, and was known to be capable of using it. In the area where I grew up, that kept me safe. My best friend in high school and my best friend in college were both raped. (The father of the latter thought the incidence of rape was greatly exaggerated, by the way.)
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  294.  @3dmaster205  She's not whining. You are.
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  295. So true.
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  296. The Market will never punish a pseudo-intellectual, nonsense-laden discourse like this one. Nor is it punishing identity politics, now is it, Dr. Peterson? Well then.
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  297. ​ @jeffdo9195 How do you know?
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  298. ​@MrCldean1828 The reason this is nonsense is that Harvard has SO much money, it can fully fund the education of thousands of needy students every decade. It won't.
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  299. @JayM928  He did compare it to the strict merit pool -- those who are not children of alumni, faculty, donors, or "special development" (which would be an actress, for example, or a musician --- which is a form of merit, and thus may not be comparable to legacies, etc.).
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  300. What I find interesting is that it was Naomi Wolf who demanded accountability and consequences for bad acts, and somehow she is getting dismissed. When Dr. Peterson points out how important accountability is, and brushes aside excuses, everyone praises him. Why is that? Wolf is an immensely accomplished person and even went back to school late in life to complete her doctorate, at OXFORD. She had already earned a fortune from her writing and raised two children. She did not do this for material reasons. She could have just, you know, bought a yacht or something. She also resisted the COVID hysteria and pushed back on the vaccine mandates. And her husband (second husband) is a veteran. Sounds to me like a truly successful life. If someone like that can still feel what it was like to be a vulnerable, idealistic, naive teen at Yale, in awe of all the famous people there who turned out to have feet of clay, then maybe that really is a big deal at 19? When Dr. Peterson's wife became ill, he himself had a problem, with prescribed drugs. You don't hold that against him, do you? Does he "wreak of being violated?" He has dissolved into tears many times since his ordeal. So what? But she can't even talk about what happened to her, and do so unemotionally? You're making the case for the people who insist that we live in a "rape culture."
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  301.  @jimluebke3869  She reported the incident while he was alive, many years ago. Toxic? Yeah, Bloom was.
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  302.  @jimluebke3869  Certainly. Look it up. What made you think not?
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  303. Yes. It's really old.
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  304. Oh, let's not be equal. Let's make sure Jeffrey Epstein, Bill Gates, Hillary Clinton, and Queen Camilla run this show.
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  305. Anyone who is well read sees so many holes in his theories that they ultimately throw up their hands. It would take too long to unravel. He has painted himself as the quintessential underdog who triumphs, as were Jesus and Socrates. Good use of archetypes, it works great. Seems like a nice enough guy. His family had to face a lot of rare illnesses, I give him credit for making the money they actually needed and putting it to good use. He's not motivated by greed.
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  306.  @theBaron0530  I hope my heterodox comment is not tossed for safety.
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  307. @darlingdeb7010  I agree with the true maverick journalist Whitney Webb: don't pay too much attention to what people say. Watch what they do. Do you imagine these two aren't setting up trust funds for their children? Really? Peterson earned a doctorate, and whatever anyone may think of his politics (personally, I find them 80% laughable), he was and is a highly qualified clinician who helped many people. His daughter didn't finish college and is a podcaster, thanks to being his daughter. Abigail Shrier is the daughter of two judges and a Yale Law graduate. Does she take the cases of struggling parents, to vindicate their right to parent their children as they believe to be best? She could represent some of the people they are talking about, who were targetted by this gender madness, and turn some lives around. Children's lives are at stake. Doing something to change that is harder than writing up a rant about it. If she really believes what she says, why doesn't she help some individual families? She could. She's a lawyer.
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  308. @darlingdeb7010  The "boomers" worked their way through college and were drafted to fight in Vietnam. Cushy life! Good thing Peterson's kids aren't being pampered like that.
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  309. Self-referential, innit?
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  310.  @lonniewilkerson5137  Including "idea" and "wrong?" (How would he know?)
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  311.  @lonniewilkerson5137  Oh please. If you didn't catch the humor in what I said, go lecture yourself. Or better yet, read Raymond Smullyan.
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  312. Nothing to do with Marx. He was a prude.
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  313. So . . . We just invent good memes now? 😂
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  314. Groping or any actual touching is serious bullying, I agree.
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  315. "Afraid to publish books" -- not because of "Marxism," because of MONEY.
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  316. "The left" in the US is unrecognizable to any normal leftist European. For example, in France, the left lead the effort to make it illegal to ask a minor their COVID vaccine status. (As a result, no one asked anyone anymore, obviously.) This woman is also using the moment for indoctrination. That is a shame, as she is so right about so much. Integrity is lacking across the board. No one misses a moment to push an agenda or make a buck.
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  317.  @rogerc23  THIS!
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  318. The agricultural life was physically vastly harder.
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  319. Peterson's definition of racism is nonsense. Racism is an ideology that emerged in the 16th century in Western Europe, which questions whether non-Western Europeans are fully human or a separate species, or inferior ("degenerate") exemplars of the human species. It does not exist in pre-modern European history, and it is not a simple preference for one's own ethnolinguistic group, which is a general tendancy in all social groups. Anyone who reads the ancient Greeks or Latin literature cannot help but be struck by it right away. Or, consider the conquest of the Americas by the Spanish and compare it to the English; you cannot miss the difference. The Spanish were eager to convert the most beautiful Aztec women to Catholicism and marry them. Cultural supremacy? Ethnocentrism? Obviously, and deeper than any that's familiar to us now. Racism? You must be kidding.
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  320. Exactly.
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  321. Prove it.
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  322. There is a link you can click to get rid of the whole channel.
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  323. @heyitsme That's not how past trauma is analyzed under the law. If you commit an assault against someone, and their suffering is more extreme than it would otherwise have been because it was not their first experience of assault, that is a reason to increase the compensation you have to pay if they were to sue you in tort. You don't get to pass that off as their tough luck. In criminal court, judges take victim impact statements as well, though those are more on the order of catharsis than to make a large difference in penalties. Look how no one wants to take responsibility! Neither those committing assaults and rapes, nor those making false accusations.
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  324.  @JordanBPeterson  I do not know what "coercion leading to permissiveness" means.
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  325.  @09bamasky  You sound like you might not be the best therapist. You cast aspersions on my social circle (by innuendo, of course), and I set that straight, and you assumed people who have been raped would confide in you -- so that the fact no one has confided in you must mean it never occurred. I made/make no such assumptions. I stated a fact. Actually, several. Like I said, law is not a soft social science. ;)
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  326.  @redpillsatori3020  Keep telling yourself that, all the way to the point where the BRICS take one of their currencies to challenge the dollar as global reserve. Then you will wonder where all that "prosperity" went. And then you can try to get paid for mindless slogans, too. Nice work if you can get it.
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  327.  @redpillsatori3020  Despite our universities, despite our highways, despite the GI Bill? LOL And now "we" have prosperity . . . . Because of YouTube! Eat it, wear it, let it get you to work. It can even heat your house.
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  328. ​ @redpillsatori3020  Debt leads to prosperity, doncha know? 😂😂😂
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  329. America has no leftists, just a few nut cases among the hyper greedy.
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  330. So they should transition?
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  331. Her husband is a US Army veteran and has a security consulting business.
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  332. He never met a war he did not support.
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  333. What I find interesting is that it was Naomi Wolf who demanded accountability and consequences for bad acts, and somehow she is getting dismissed. When Dr. Peterson points out how important accountability is, and brushes aside excuses, everyone praises him. Why is that? Wolf is an immensely accomplished person, who made a fortune with her writing years ago, and even went back to school late in life to complete her doctorate, at OXFORD. She resisted the COVID hysteria. And her husband is a veteran. Sounds to me like a truly successful life. If someone like that can still feel what it was like to be a vulnerable, idealistic, naive teen at Yale, in awe of all the famous people there who turned out to have feet of clay, then maybe that really is a big deal? It could be, you know.
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  334.  @mrmichaelhallett  Was this a joke?
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  335. I always thought that one of the few good things about life is that there are men and women.
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  336. Oh really? Hanson is an inveterate warmonger, no less than Samantha Power. Perhaps even more, if that's possible. BTW, Elizabeth Warren never got a Harvard appointment based on her heritage. She was very good in her area of law, but much more important, MARRIED a Harvard law professor. So, she made it on terms these two could (perhaps grudgingly) accept. (Look up "spousal hire.")
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  337. What I find interesting is that this time, it was Naomi Wolf who demanded accountability and consequences for bad acts, and somehow she is getting dismissed. When Dr. Peterson points out how important accountability is, and brushes aside excuses, everyone jumps to their feet and praises him. Why is that? If you didn't hear that, listen again and start from the top.
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  338. Study history. 20th century Germany is a good place to start.
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  339.  @joriankell1983  If you think these "behaviors" are not typical of people of European descent, then you weren't reading. Your eyes were glazing over while the anger mongers stole your attention.
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  340.  @joriankell1983  Even if your underlying point were true, your comment is a non sequitur. If someone else does X, this is no evidence that you don't do X. (On the contrary, that's a Hillary tactic: point out in others what you yourself do even more.)
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  341. We eradicated competition? Competition has never been harsher. The top three quintiles used to have a perfectly decent, secure life. Now only the top 10% do, and that's declining fast. This is ALL bull.
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  342. Examples??
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  343. Oh please, Peterson's books are everywhere, including bookstores considered leftist. Example: Barbara's, in Chicago. I thought self-made entrepreneurs like Henderson don't whine about being "frozen out" of bookstores.
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  344. Five years ago, did you see this coming??
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  345. Agreed.
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  346.  @mrw417  Very good take.
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  347.  @criticalcommenter  Adam Smith is misrepresented all the time in the US.
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  348.  @criticalcommenter  No one ever discusses the commons, or the rentier class, or the difference between monopoly capital and a real free market, or how the latter is conducive to liberty and democratic principles while the former is deadly to them. You know. Stuff like that. You don't want people to get ideas.
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  349. @criticalcommenter  Feel free to make suggestions if that's what you think. I'll take them. No, not kidding, not snide. I enjoyed this guest.
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  350.  @criticalcommenter  Friedman? Which Friedman, Milton? He's a poster boy for disaster capitalism. These are the people who dress up the wolf of monopoly capital in the sheep's clothing of free markets. They are exactly who muddled the issue. They are the neofeudalists Smith warned about.
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  351.  @best5345  If Wolf mindlessly advocated for "believe all women," please show me where. I don't think you're listening to her. I think you're equating her with every manipulator and airhead that has been trotted across the mass media -- to our detriment, sure.
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  352. 15 years ago no one was being forced to "affirm" or risk being reported to child protective services, and no school was reporting anyone. This is some new crap.
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  353.  @WardofSquid  Someone believes this happened FIFTEEN YEARS AGO? That would be 2007 - 2008. That was the Great Recession. People were getting kicked out of their homes back then, not being sent for trans reeducation. P. S. Math is fun.
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  354.  @lamaarporter300  THANK YOU
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  355.  @darcynicholl  Even the people who know that 2023 minus 15 equals 2008? This push to "affirm" did not happen until the last few years. I'm not sure CPS was involved anywhere in (claimed) gender dysphoria before Biden took office.
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  356.  @shaun_rambaran  Another math person. Greetings. 👍
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  357.  @highroller-jq3ix  For a drastic procedure applied to minors, one that can deprive them of their right to try to become birth parents someday, and can have other very serious consequences, including cognitive consequences, a 1% failure rate is horrible. That is 100 per 100,000; drugs are withdrawn for adults when that kind of harm is uncovered.
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  358. No one ever taxed their way to prosperity? Oh REALLY? What do you think paid for the great land grant universities and the GI Bill, that brought the greatest period of solid economic prosperity in US history? Why do people repeat these slogans? Taxes today don't bring prosperity tomorrow, no. Even building the nation's airports and highways didn't result in overnight prosperity. He's selling snake oil.
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  359.  @Leo-mr1qz  Well, that would put it sooner than their 18th birthday, simply because most states have a lower age of consent, and because students do need to have certain information before turning 18. I am not defending any particular curriculum, simply saying why there does need to be sex education. I believe what you say about the curriculum you know, and that it is not good. No argument there.
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  360. Pseudo-social Darwinism . . . "Lobsters form lobster hierarchies, and using similar neurotransmitters!" Hmm. And what about the origins of different species? Funny how those pesky little mammals that were running underfoot and hiding for their lives ended up dominant after tens of millions of years of dinosaur dominance. You can find better biological analogies than the ones Peterson has dreamed up, though I think we should tread very, very lightly on those comparisons. They don't tell us much.
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  361. She was right about accountability. Funny, when someone like Dr. Peterson calls for it, everyone nods. Listen again.
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