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Comments by "L.W. Paradis" (@l.w.paradis2108) on "Zaid Jilani CALLS OUT New Moral Puritans On The Left Over Alex Morse 'Allegations'" video.
@fortusvictus8297 Non sequitur. It was made clear that he was never the instructor of any of the people he dated, and did not pursue romantic relationships with anyone where his status could make them feel pressured or beholden to him. Any of these people could have said "no" without fear of ramifications. They had no idea he was "a big shot." He did not use it as leverage. I don't see a problem with workplace romance. If there is a conflict of interest, one or the other needs to get a new job before they pursue the relationship. So, they are now two people who met at work, rather than online or at a bar. So?
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@fortusvictus8297 If you have to lie blatantly about what I said, you must have no response.
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@fortusvictus8297 Isn't it interesting that whenever anyone has a solid point, someone pipes up right away to lie about what that person just said? It's not about sides, either. All sides do it. Is there a culture more anti-intellectual anywhere?
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@fortusvictus8297 He was never their teacher. He never met them in the context of being an adjunct at their campus, and thus could not have used it as leverage. An adjunct, moreover, is an inherently temporary, term-to-term contract. How do you see this as conflict of interest? So, is a contractor setting up a software system, which requires temporary supervision of programmers in a department, forbidden from ever dating those programmers, even after he is done? A mayor has to give up his office to date someone working in the city's park district, or the library system? This has become ridiculous.
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@abe8435 Agreed. I only wanted to point out that when you look at the facts, the hypocrisy is rank. The opponents of Tara Reade did too good of a job "discrediting" her -- and that, standing alone, means a jury could reject her testimony, but we aren't in court, no one is on trial, and some witnesses who may generally lack strong credibility nevertheless tell the truth about most things. If everything the NYTimes ultimately said about Reade were true, then they have discredited BIDEN for hiring her in the first place.
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@Turambar_499 LOL. People should only meet at bars while both drinking Shirley Temples. Or with an online dating app. They must do a conflicts search, like law firms do, before the wrong kind of glance can take place between them. Someone should invent a program for that, and a training seminar.
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@abe8435 The very carefully constructed discrediting of Biden's accuser Tara Reade was so well done that it immediately raised the question how and why she was ever hired to work for a powerful, prominent Senator in the first place. The story is, she had no qualifications at all.
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But are either Trump or Joe Biden unacceptable to Wall Street? No. End of story.
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@acharris Exactly.
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@fortusvictus8297 You keep throwing in non sequiturs. The laws against, say, shoplifting, do not apply when no shoplifting took place. The laws against drunk driving do not apply when someone had one beer during lunch, then drove home after work six hours later.
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@fortusvictus8297 Students MARRY their former teachers. I've known several personally. Lawyers can date a former client once the entire action is over (so, the client hiring a new lawyer in order to date their former lawyer while the case is still pending could be considered ethically unsound). Whether someone could theoretically be a FUTURE student or a FUTURE client of another person is irrelevant, unless it is reasonably foreseeable, and not merely a remote or logical possibility. The world of adult, pragmatic people does not function on the basis of the remotely possible. You cannot even be held liable for negligence if a loss you played some part in causing was unforeseeable by any normal, rational person. Not only that, but any possible awkwardness can be prevented: ask the instructor you dated to recommend a different instructor for the course, when you decide you want to take it. Granted, now you have the benefit of insider information: just as you would if your Mom or Dad (or aunt, or cousin) teach where you go to college.
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@TechnoEstate Then we agree, at least on that point.
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@TechnoEstate Give an example of what you mean. I don't get it.
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Check the University of Michigan rules for instructor/student romance. They are shocking. For example, an adjunct instructor at one U of M campus cannot date an undergrad from another. This extreme position does exist. How did we get here?
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Really? I personally know several who married.
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Oh wait. Do you mean not with each other, or do you mean the groves of academe must be celebate?
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@randallj25 You said, "consensual or not, students and professors are not allowed to have sexual relationships." What did you mean? No, I really don't know how far your rule extends. These were not his students, current or former. Explain your conflict of interest point, then.
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