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Comments by "L.W. Paradis" (@l.w.paradis2108) on "Voters SUPPORT Shot Mandates For Both Adults AND Children, U.S. Growing Comfortable W/ NANNY STATE?" video.
@joeterzio7175 Correct. So, what can others demand of you? Basically anything? Jail the unvaccinated? Drive them out of hospitals? Refuse to rent to them? What? There used to be this law called HIPPA, governing MEDICAL PRIVACY -- even Nancy Pelosi mentioned it (during the campaign) as the reason why the government cannot mandate vaccination. What happened?
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Joe Simon No AIDS vaccine exists.
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That requires keeping more than one thought in your head at a time, and that doesn't seem to be Ryan's strong suit when COVID is the issue.
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Amen.
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@VioletVal529 That provides absolutely no guidance. You've also never died. Nor is the premise true: vaccines have been reformulated or withdrawn, for cause, not just to improve them.
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@nigredoooalgown6245 You support mandates for minor children? The Guardian recently reported that teen boys are more likely to be hospitalized for vaccine side effects such as myocarditis than for a case of COVID even without the attenuating benefit of vaccination. But they should be mandated nevertheless? Why? Isn't this a little too new for children, most of whom are not at serious risk from COVID, to be forced to take the vaccines? Even the FDA gave Pfizer full approval for ages 16 and up, not for prepubescent or barely pubescent kids. You know they had a reason!
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@samanthalyons5055 Dear, Russia is NOT forcing vaccination on minors.
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@nigredoooalgown6245 Guardian was quoting a scientific study that anyone can verify. They were not making it up. Risking known harm to minors for the sake of CONJECTURAL "herd immunity" is treating human beings as instruments rather than as intrinsically valuable. Don't look now, but you can be sure it will be your turn one day to be turned into an instrument for someone else's goals, if it hasn't happened already. Actually, coercive people almost always have been coerced themselves, and never overcame it and integrated it.
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@nigredoooalgown6245 It's rather laughable to dismiss a reliable source that gives information anyone can independently verify, and to call them names, because it does not support you in your quest to mandate vaccination of minors. As if you would lift a finger for anyone whose child was harmed. They would become an inconvenience. That has already happened -- of course. People being treated as objects, as having only instrumental value, always has the same outcome. That's what mandates are. Try persuasion.
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@nigredoooalgown6245 Then why bother? Let them do what they want. I see you have zero knowledge of Kant, by the way. Do you recognize the name . . . Wait, why am I asking? What difference could it possibly make? Watch Dogville some time. First watch Dancer in the Dark.
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@nigredoooalgown6245 And they, in turn, determine you don't have value.
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@nigredoooalgown6245 "The assessment by the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) is that the health benefits from vaccination are marginally greater than the potential known harms. However, the margin of benefit is considered too small to support universal vaccination of healthy 12 to 15 year olds at this time. It is not within the JCVI’s remit to consider the wider societal impacts of vaccination, including educational benefits. The government may wish to seek further views on the wider societal and educational impacts from the Chief Medical Officers of the UK 4 nations. For the vast majority of children, SARS-CoV-2 infection is asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic and will resolve without treatment. Of the very few children aged 12 to 15 years who require hospitalisation, the majority have underlying health conditions. The committee has recommended the expansion of the list of conditions to which the offer applies for at-risk 12 to 15 year olds. There is evidence of an association between mRNA COVID-19 vaccines and myocarditis. This is an extremely rare adverse event. The medium- to long-term effects are unknown and long-term follow-up is being conducted. Given the very low risk of serious COVID-19 disease in otherwise healthy 12 to 15 year olds, considerations on the potential harms and benefits of vaccination are very finely balanced and a precautionary approach was agreed."
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@nigredoooalgown6245 Is UK's official public health authority on vaccination good 'nuf? Note they have greater vaccine compliance than the US. Important point.
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What Bill of Rights?
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@htunlin2000 A violation of rights demands some remedy. Or is the concept too tough for you? So, what do you propose? Nah. Too tough for you. Your comment only contains slogans. Never mind.
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@htunlin2000 I don't disagree with your first post (of your last two) one iota, i.e., the one not directed to me. Why would I? It is factually accurate and ethically sound.
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@htunlin2000 BTW, congrats on advancing beyond slogans. The issue remains: some 40 to 45% of people eligible to be vaccinated against COVID are unlikely to do so. What are their reasons? What should be their punishment? Or in any case, the consequences for them?
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Trick question. The right question is, how many boosters are we going to mandate?
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Last year when they risked their lives that was fine. But today that no longer counts. That's because we don't have morals, we have hashtags.
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During the campaign Biden claimed he was against mandates. (Care to comment, Grim?)
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It is as though research has frozen. Most of the studies I see are from other countries.
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If testing as an alternative to a vaccine is an option for everyone, even if only the unvaccinated are required to be tested, why is there a problem? The lack of choices (and safety information) is the only problem.
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Suddenly no one is talking about testing. I'd be glad to take a weekly test and pitch in for a copay to do it, no problem. Testing is better than vaccines, vaccines have breakthrough infections.
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At gunpoint.
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@duce7999 I bet you need /SARCASM ALERT!! spelled out for you. I bet you don't love.
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@duce7999 How can these words be applied to guns? Do you love or like screwdrivers, hard drives, extension cords? Lumber? Turpentine? Dust cloths? Live bait?
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@duce7999 Right. Because you said to "quit this weak stuff and just mandate everyone." Or else? Or else WHAT?
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@duce7999 Whatever smear you think best is, of course, Truth. This is how it works.
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