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Comments by "L.W. Paradis" (@l.w.paradis2108) on "Kim Iversen: Spain u0026 Israel Finally GIVE UP Containing Covid. Mom Locks Son In Trunk To Avoid Covid." video.
@sheilamacdougal4874 It's not "what about x" when the pandemic RESPONSE is indeed a causal factor in creating other pathologies. You think we aren't spawning agoraphobia? You think anxiety disorder and panic disorder do not lead to disability and drug abuse and suicide? I can take off a seatbeat when I'm done driving. I can take off a mask at home. If I am injured by any medical intervention, especially a vaccine, I cannot undo it, and I know I am on my own. That is why the consent form for COVID vaccination states that you certify you read the fact sheet, that you understand the risks, and that if you now decide not to take the vaccine, your health care WILL NOT BE AFFECTED. You must not have read the consent form. You impugn my solid argument with those inapposite seatbelt talking points? Thanks for proving the OP's point, but I'd rather you didn't. It's too sad.
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@sheilamacdougal4874 That wasn't what OP implied, or insinuated. COVID is a bad disease, but the way the response has unfolded and the way the social fabric has been ripped may have worse ramifications. If a person with a heart condition or cancer learns that his chance of survival is 98%+, he celebrates. With a contagious disease circulating, composure is even more important. People die of many things. Have car accidents and shootings killed or crippled more kids under 12 than COVID has? How about people under 40? For young adults, factor in drug overdoses and suicides. If you can't answer these questions, then we have not been informed properly about our risk.
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@sheilamacdougal4874 Stop right there. The pandemic is raging now. No one supports that. You want to keep doing what you've been doing, and make more people do it -- people for whom you are not responsible in the least. The asymmetry here is that I'm not telling you what to do. You think you have a right to tell me. That's based on your excessive fear, not ethics, not sound policy. "Rage in all its fury" -- yeesh, take a writing class.
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@sheilamacdougal4874 Everyone can make their own decision. You mentioned seatbelts, as if we should all make an identical risk assessment, or worse yet, be forced by law to make identical decisions. Are you sure cancer patients have a reduced lifespan? The Queen Mum certainly didn't. (Your callousness is showing, by the way.) Are you sure COVID is highly dangerous to the healthy? No one else thinks so, not even the doctors.
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@loryndabenson2118 Glenn Greenwald just interviewed the tennis pro Tennys Sandgren, who made a decision to forgo the Australian Open purely as a matter of principle. It is GREAT. I'm so impressed.
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@hugomaritz692 Thank you. I truly appreciated that. Exhale.
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@sheilamacdougal4874 You've also demonstrated an inability to judge relative risks, but that's common. People who are nervous about flying will get in a car with a driver who has had a few beers. The COVID response didn't cause that, but maybe fear has blinded you to the point.
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@sheilamacdougal4874 The war zone point was that risk is always relative. I meant it abstractly. Too bad you took it literally, then forgot about Americans in Afghanistan! Well, those injured by vaccines are not just forgotten, but abused for talking about their injuries. BTW, what is it that I said we should stop doing? Did I say we should stop offering vaccines? Wearing appropriate masks indoors? Voluntarily staying home if clearly prudent and practicable? Quarantining if and when infectious? IOW, mitigating real risk? I didn't say we should stop any of those. What I don't support is forcing the young to lose more of their lives, and scaring people to death with sheer nonsense and exaggeration, and provoking more mental illness. We have that now.
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@sheilamacdougal4874 Exactly. The airplane example is not analogous to developing cancer of an unknown etiology, but of actively doing something to put yourself at risk. This is precisely why so many people refuse to accept medical interventions that go against their better judgment. Actively choosing something that you have been warned is risky is entirely different from having something simply happen to you, for which you are not responsible in any apparent way. The vaccine consent forms reflect this fact, by stating that the person can decline the vaccine and their health care will be unaffected. Too bad politicians want to make the public believe something else.
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@sheilamacdougal4874 You haven't made a single cogent argument. Instead, you pretended that I didn't. Your pomposity is empty.
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@sheilamacdougal4874 My arguments aren't confused at all. I separate variables to look at them individually, before looking at how they operate in the aggregate. If you don't do that, it will seem weird. The fear of COVID has been stoked excessively, leading to terrible consequences for many people whose risk of severe illness or death is likely to be extremely small. Pushing policies that have provoked large numbers of people between the ages of 15 and 25 to contemplate suicide is not my idea of sound public health. Of course you won't touch that.
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Hm, we should look into it, but in general ADE causes a more severe case, rather than more rampant spread. So, it's doubtful. But real science looks into all the possibilities, absolutely.
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Agreed. Let's keep an open mind and study this.
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@juliamihasastrology4427 Thought about this post again, when I was watching Dr. Didier Raoult last night. You were absolutely right to raise the question. No sign of ADE yet, but with Omicron, the protection provided by vaccination is so much less, and interminable boosters have not been shown to be safe. One booster doesn't provoke ADE. What would three do? No one knows. It was not tested.
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@juliamihasastrology4427 Or, it could. If they just assume it can't . . . Yeesh.
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Yeah, I mean you raised the question. The answer has been no so far, but the question is important. I wish researchers were more transparent. They seem to be convinced that telling us to shut up and do as we're told is the only way. We'll have to watch for these discussions from top virologists.
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@sheilamacdougal4874 BTW, I might board that plane if the alternative was to stay in a war zone. It all depends, doesn't it? To me, an illness with at most a 1 to 2% case fatality rate and well under a 1% infection fatality rate does not warrant measures that we see have destroyed a whole host of other important things.
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@sheilamacdougal4874 I'm blocking you from further discussion. You are in bad faith, and offensive. I suspect some of my posts are being shadowed, when yours should be instead.
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Look on the world map to see where the highest transmission exists. Then look on the map to see where the highest vaccination rates are. Someone needs to explain this, pronto. And more to the point: how can forced immunotherapy vaccination be justified, when at best it lessens the risk of spread for three to six months, probably?
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You need to inform yourself for your own health and well being at this point. Remember 9/11? After the first tower was hit and people started evacuating the second tower, they were instructed to return to their offices. Most people did. NYTimes reported this. I'll never forget it, because I was a fire marshall in the 1990s, in another large city, and I probably would have complied.
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Kim, the translation of what Macron said is a lot saltier.
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She said no mandates.
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These are death RATES. You can compare all larger countries by comparing rates. There is somewhat less reliability in comparing very small and very large countries.
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Speaking of other countries, what have Norway and Japan been doing? If we had their death rate per million, we'd have fewer than 1/10 the deaths we have had. We should be sharing information.
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The European far left is anti-mandate. It has been all along. The PCF (actual communists) is anti-mandate. I kid you not.
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Look at the statistics from South Africa, where over 70% are unvaccinated. Or, repeat MSM talking points. But then get a cut. $$
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Vaccination greatly lessened the risk of developing serious COVID, and came close to preventing death from COVID, for about six months -- which is all that the manufacturers' information sheets ever expressly promised. That was true. Looking at the map of highly vaccinated populations and comparing that with where the greatest Omicron variant is spreading now raises . . . questions.
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What are you talking about? Forced immunotherapy "vaccines" that merely lessen the risk of spread, for less than six months, and possibly for less than three months? This is reasonable, or even doable? According to who?
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We have the example of South Africa for studying the current Omicron wave, where fewer than 30% are vaccinated. Look on the world map to see where the highest transmission exists. Then look on the map to see where the highest vaccination rates are. Someone needs to explain this, pronto.
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I'm so sorry. What our politicians and MSM have done is cruel and inexcusable. Give the kid a big hug for me.
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