General statistics
List of Youtube channels
Youtube commenter search
Distinguished comments
About
L.W. Paradis
The Hill
comments
Comments by "L.W. Paradis" (@l.w.paradis2108) on "GW Students SLAMMED Over Display Amid Israel-Palestine War: 'Glory To Our Martyrs'" video.
Martyr has a similar meaning in other languages as well. Some use "victim" and "martyr" interchangeably. It's one word.
11
"Martyr" has a similar meaning in other languages as well. Some use "victim" and "martyr" interchangeably. It's one word.
7
@deadgolfer6345 I actually don't know. I do agree that where an ambiguity of THIS nature is possible, the word should be avoided. Or better yet, clarified: "martyred civilians," using the word as an adjective, not a noun.
2
@deadgolfer6345 Of course it's possible. I have no problem with calling them in for questioning. I do have a problem with demands for discipline without a hearing. The First Amendment matters. The school can ban all projections on their buildings and avoid content discrimination that way. It may seem cowardly to do that, but it may also be the best option at the moment.
2
@BDnevernind Also, obviously, putting a picture of the Palestinian flag on your notebook, versus running the flag up a flagpole belonging to the school, are two different things. The first is your right. There's really no debate. There's nothing to discuss.
2
@deadgolfer6345 Gee, thanks very much, but . . . it should be normal. This was cool, but there are moments when I get praised for being normal and it scares me. Well, you can imagine.
2
@deadgolfer6345 You do, too.
2
@BDnevernind No, it is very simple. You can make no assumption about what they meant without giving them the opportunity to be heard. So, the school can either call them in for a preliminary hearing concerning what the slogans mean, or leave the students alone. They cannot move against them without giving them an opportunity to be heard. A campus can refuse to allow its buildings to be used to project any message deemed to be advocating for anyone's genocide. It's analogous to Title VII hostile workplace/harassment rules. They have lawyers who can take a close look at those cases and see which would arguably apply to the context of a college campus. In general, more speech will be tolerated on campus --- much more. Nadine Strossen and Chemerinsky have both written on this. Students should come with the expectation of encountering ideas they vehemently disagree with, but they shouldn't come with the expectation of seeing campus buildings strewn with advocacy for genocide. That goes for some of the things Israeli politicians have said, correct.
1
@deadgolfer6345 Well, as a bystander interpreting a message, you have every right to interpret it as you see most plausible. They chose to project it. They can control the words, they can't control how others receive the words. That's how communication works. I'm still in the "I don't know camp." So, you might be right, and if so, you were right faster.
1
@BDnevernind I wasn't advocating for punishment. I was spelling out the minimum criteria for imposing anything like that. Private universities do not have the same laws concerning the First Amendment as do state schools, true, but they typically adopt the very same rules and enshrine them in a contract with the students.
1