Comments by "L.W. Paradis" (@l.w.paradis2108) on "DeSantis, Activist Educators CLASH Over AP African American Studies Course: CENSORING History?" video.

Maybe you don't pay much attention.
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@DeanChavayez Correct. And the problem would be . . . ? None. There is no problem. DeSantis is grandstanding, and playing to his anti-intellectual base.
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@scratchpenny The more I think about this, yeah -- the only issue is whether the curriculum is sufficiently rigorous to be approved by the College Board for full AP credit. Why has no one addressed that? Teachers want to teach, students want to take it -- the role of government is truth in advertising, not censorship based on viewpoint. Whether it is really AP credit-worthy is Florida's business, and nothing beyond that. Same for Biden. How does he know the course is solid, and no kid will take it, do well, and still end up with no AP credits? Did he check it out?
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Kids who are going to college can save money by taking AP classes. DeSantis is blocking a curriculum that is an elective, not required?
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Yeah. AP, an elective for motivated kids who want to save on college tuition.
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College offers all of those. AP is an elective for college-bound kids who want to save money on tuition.
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AP classes are electives for motivated kids who want to save money on college tuition. But go ahead and present your grievance.
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The history of the ethnic Catholic migration to the United States most certainly is a college course, including specific course on the Irish or the Italians. Look at a few college catalogues some time. AP is for college-bound kids to earn credits and SAVE MONEY on tuition.
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@vainezaiven6677 AP is an elective designed for motivated kids who want to earn college credits and save money on tuition. That is not good for the banks. End of story.
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@scratchpenny Not at all. There has been a push to decrease access to AP, and funding for these "extras," even while the student demand has been growing, particularly from those who are first-generation college bound or relatively lower income. This isn't surprising, given the current crisis in the schools and the need to make up the lost time in the main curriculum. Where I live, a substitute teacher only needs 60 college credits for an emergency certificate. Anyone with two years of college pursuing their education degree part-time in the evenings can sub. (Needless to say, this poses no issues for the top 10% of income and wealth.)
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@scratchpenny So demonstrate that -- by citing curriculum, reading list, etc. The burden is on them, I think. AP courses are approved by the College Board. If they don't get approval, then that is a good reason to decline to offer it -- basically dispositive. No unapproved course should be offered, it will mislead the students. If they do get approval, then the ball is in DeSantis's court. Banning it is censorship.
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@scratchpenny And the government does need to make sure it is a real course, for real credit -- we pay them for that. We know DeSantis has a political opposition to this type of course in public school, but did Biden make sure it is a real AP class for college credit? Ha ha just kidding. :)
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@dickmonddickelheimer9452 No, it's advocating not to glorify certain people who were technically traitors to the United States by placing their statues in a public space. The statues belong on private property, in museums and the like. Anywhere but on public property. We won't put up a statue of bin Laden, and he made history, too.
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The history of the ethnic Catholic migration to the United States most certainly is a college course, and yes, even a specific course on the Irish or the Italians. Robby should look at a few college catalogues some time.
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@bhbluebird No, it's a proposed AP class. There is no problem with offering other AP classes; but most of the ones I mentioned are usually upper level classes in college, and AP is a survey class. African American Studies is usually a survey class because it is broad. Now, if this proposed class were actually watered-down content unworthy of the credit, and the curriculum were basically free credits for consuming propaganda and regurgitating it, THEN you would have an argument. But we have no evidence at all that it is. There is no reason to oppose the proposed class "because we don't have some other class, too."
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@scratchpenny Actually, the colleges can "take care of that" by not accepting the AP classes for full credit. Amazing how common that is, too.
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College history never had anything to do with the slop they present to you in high school.
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AP is an elective designed for motivated kids who want to earn college credits and save money on tuition. That is not good for the banks. End of story. As for the Confederacy, the real story happens after the end of Reconstruction, when aspects of slavery were reintroduced. The North never fought to liberate anyone, but to impose modernization on the entire US labor force.
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@davidschlageter5962 I'm sorry to hear that. Did he learn additional material in those classes in college that made it worthwhile? Math was a class that was well known to admit students based on placement, because the placement exams were objective. Making a person repeat material is holding them back, obviously. (But it doesn't hurt the colleges' bottom line, or the banks, now does it?)
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First of all, generally everyone who works hard can master an AP curriculum, which is only 100-level college. Second, it IS an elective; no one is ever required to take AP classes as a condition of attaining a high school diploma. Kids who are going to college can save money by taking AP classes.
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@scratchpenny I guess Asians have greater intellectual capacity, then? Forgive me, but a brain is something you build. It's in the nature of brains to change in response to the demands placed on them. I found that out when I studied Ancient Greek in France (French is my third language). Wow were the various graduate college, law school, etc., admissions tests a breeze after that.
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@NNAPOLEONN We are the society that believes in "IQ" above any other. Hm, I wonder why we have some of the worst results. It's such a mystery. /s I lived in France when every high school student had calculus, and only achievement testing (the baccalauréat, a national exam) was required for university admission. "Aptitude" testing in the public sector was not permitted as a criterion for progressing in school or for civil service jobs. It was considered bogus. "Show us what you can do" was the rule. So, people did. Crazy I know.
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@panamareg There is an entire field of historiography, designed to find objective facts. It is analogous to reading some newspaper account of a contemporary event, rather than examining the court documents that were produced when the person actually sued. I can give you a great example: how many people thought Depp v. Heard was about who is truthful and who is a pathological liar? No, a defamation case is about a written or spoken text, and the focus is on the truth or falsity of the text, not the character of the speaker. Almost no one who had an opinion about it read the actual text. (So, we sacrificed a little freedom of speech to get the "satisfaction" of allowing a grown man to get even for a bad relationship he voluntarily entered with a crazy b******. Good times!)
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And in other news, a school shooting has taken place in Iowa . . .
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@rogerward801 Exactly
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An AP class is an elective for the motivated kids who want to earn college credits and save on tuition. Look at a college catalogue some time; after the broad survey courses, everything is a close reading of a specific topic and period. That's how history is done. Look at catalogues from 50 years ago if you think the ones from today are contaminated with PC/SJW.
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@phantomzxro1 In any case, for an AP class, which is purely elective, the role of any level of government is to make sure it is a bona fide course, and that kids who complete it will indeed get college credit by taking a College Board-sponsored exam in the subject. (In other words, is this all legit?) If there are students who want to take it and teachers who want to teach it, it is not the government's business to prevent them.
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The history of the ethnic Catholic migration to the United States most certainly is a college course, and yes, even specific courses on the Irish or the Italians. Look at a few college catalogues some time.
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@ffffnnnnul2125 We retained the actual birthdays of Lincoln and Washington, and Juneteenth, plus a Presidential election day is a state holiday here. Cool holidays, in our state.
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