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Comments by "L.W. Paradis" (@l.w.paradis2108) on "Police STORM Columbia’s Hamilton Hall, ARREST Protesters: SHOCKING FOOTAGE" video.
She said that civil disobedience involves being willing to be arrested --- that is clear. But it shouldn't involve this level of force.
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Show me solid evidence and I'll believe it. That has become very common --- as has provocation from the FBI and others. But then, Afeni Shakur once proved that, decades ago, representing herself in court.
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@kesivan I just told you what I looked at and what I found, but YT does not seem pleased. The burden of proof for a claim is on the proponent. Cut and paste a whole bunch of times is evidence of agreement, not truth.
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@FedoraWearinNas So . . . Should those engaged in civil disobedience be treated like outlaws, to whom anything can be done?
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As Brie said, civil disobedience entails a willingness to face arrest. It doesn't mean that you're an outlaw, and police can risk maiming you for life if they feel like it. Are these distinctions too fine now?
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@kesivan How about tube letting me answer that? Lol.
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@donpietruk1517 Let's suppose you are right. Exactly what level of force does that authorize? If the students broke laws, does that mean that anything can be done to them now? That's like saying October 7th justifies genocide.
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@kesivan MY RESPONSE was TAKEN DOWN. Get it???
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@kesivan And . . . . You are blocked from my feed.
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@mandingogrande9243 LOL
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@FedoraWearinNas That's what I said. That's a part of the very concept of civil disobedience. The issue is, which consequences?
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@derekekoch That's not unfair. However, I get the feeling that we don't agree on the amount of force that's appropriate, given that lawsuits cannot rectify certain harms. Property is property, and life and health are on a different plane. Property can be fixed, and wages garnished to fix it. No problem. Not so for human bodies. There are better ways to handle these protests, as Northwestern University proved.
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Columbia was sued by Jewish Voice for Peace in March, Robbie, for discriminating against student organizations that support rights for Palestinians. You can find the complaint and see for yourself.
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She expressly said civil disobedience necessarily entails the willingness to be arrested -- which is correct. It does. What part of disproportionate force is a mystery to you? Trespass and damage to property aren't a license for police to beat or maim anyone.
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@carlsanders7824 Civil disobedience is not necessarily nonviolent. The hallmark of civil disobedience is a willingness to be arrested and to offer no resistance to the arrest. That doesn't mean you can't occupy a building, use furniture to bar the door, etc.
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She expressly said civil disobedience necessarily entails the willingness to be arrested -- which is correct. It does. What part of disproportionate force is a mystery to you? Trespass and damage to property aren't a license for police to beat or main anyone.
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@TerryTerryTerry Just today I roundly criticized her for her trans views!
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@TerryTerryTerry Well, I'm not being allowed to answer. The main point dis appear_ed.
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@mikelivingood7797 That word is often ______. Congress just passed the most blatantly unconstitutional law that actually affects your life and your liberty, but you're here to denounce some students who are actually trying to do something about a war gone mad -- a war that is not in your interest, either. Far from it. Fifty years of American diplomacy and coalition building against terrorism down the drain. The students committed acts for which arrest is warranted. We know that. Where is your evidence that they then resisted arrest? (Bare claim?) That's the standard, and the timeline. Resisting being beaten or taken to the ground, as Jill Stein did, is not "resisting arrest" -- unless that law changed, too.
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@carlsanders7824 I never said anyone was -- that was some other post. But now we come to find that an officer did discharge a firearm by accident at Hamilton Hall, and Ohio State U and U of Indiana had snipers poised on rooftops.
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@kesivan Well, when I heard all the accusations about George Soros funding these protests, I investigated on my own and found one grant, not given in this decade, amounting to $200,000 for Jewish Voice for Peace. The burden of proof is on the proponent. The fact that Laura Ingraham says so is not evidence.
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@derekekoch Gosh, you're welcome. I wasn't particularly nice, I thought. Kind-of normal. Kind-of normal is good, lol.
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@TerryTerryTerry You think I don't know 1/6 and the George Floyd protests both involved provocateurs, for example? Lol.
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@carlsanders7824 I'm being scents erred. What part of my responses are suppressed is a mystery to you?
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@TerryTerryTerry Oh! Another deep thinker!! What you should be worried about is that CNN just did a piece supporting a blatantly unconstitutional bill Congress passed that they all must know violates the First Amendment on its face, and their reasoning was, if Marjorie Taylor Greene opposes it, it must be good. In other words, your logic.
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@TerryTerryTerry Wait, that law wouldn't bother you. You clearly have no problem with censorship when you think it's to your benefit. Of course it never is, but . . . Being a deep thinker and all . . .
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@TerryTerryTerry What you should be worried about is that CNN just did a piece supporting a blatantly unconstitutional bill Congress passed that they all must know violates the First Amendment on its face. Their reasoning was that if Marjorie Taylor Greene opposes it, it must be good. In other words, your logic.
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@mikelivingood7797 Oh, you mean like the law Congress just passed? The blatantly unconstitutional one? Posts about that are _______, too.
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@TerryTerryTerry Funny that you can jeer at me, but if I name four major Supreme Court cases that deal with First Amendment rights, it's nowhere to be seen. What do you think about that?
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@donpietruk1517 Well . . . As it turns out, a gun was fired by a police officer in Hamilton Hall. It was accidental, but when it happened they had to check that no one was hit. Ohio State and U of Indiana had snipers at the ready. This makes sense to you?
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