Comments by "L.W. Paradis" (@l.w.paradis2108) on "Dove BOYCOTTED After Hiring BLM Activist Whose FALSE ALLEGATION Got White Student EXPELLED: Report" video.

  1. The lawsuit against the university is what Brie supports. I do as well.
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  2. COME ON. She said the university that did this to a student should be sued. That is where to put the focus. 💯 No one can work again, after an admitted mistake? The institution that took hearsay as gospel deserves the ire -- and the lawsuit.
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  3. She said a suit against the university is a good idea. It is.
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  4.  @StevenPenny  Seriously? An institution like a university, with the resources it has to take its time to investigate and reflect on evidence and listen calmly, bears less blame than an activist who blurts something out? I'm pretty sure the university is to blame. Brie was perfect here. I've never seen anyone more systematically misrepresented.
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  5. @StevenPenny  The only way to hold "the perp" accountable is to sue in defamation, which should always be an option. But if she never works again, there would be no way to extract a fair judgment. She wouldn't have the money. See how that works? Or stoke your outrage, if you prefer; call up a social media mob. That makes things all better for victims everywhere.
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  6. ​ @lizzieb6311 She supports the lawsuit against the real bad actor in this picture -- the university that expelled a student based on hearsay that was recanted.
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  7. ​ @CHX_37 Because being tortured to death is just like being expelled from school and being handed a viable lawsuit.
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  8. @rickgee5962  Did she fabricate it, then? I didn't follow the case, and agree wholeheartedly with the lawsuit against the university.
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  9. The woman is SUING. Brie supports the lawsuit and explained why. She is right.
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  10. @lizzieb6311  Do you actually not know that if someone DEFAMES you, you have an interest in seeing them work again? See, that way, you can sue them in defamation and get a meaningful recovery. Because then, they have money to pay you. Weird how that works. 🤷‍♀️
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  11. @lizzieb6311  On the contrary, I agree. But court also serves as vindication, and money can be judiciously put to use to repair a reputation, and maintain a decent way of life while still suffering from reputational damage. Do you seriously think this woman's whole life was ruined? Do you always catastrophize like that?
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  12. @lizzieb6311  You just defamed me, lol. Of course, this isn't my real name. (You really can't handle facts anymore, can you? You just tried to do what you pretended you're against.) Kim Iversen just made a good point on her program tonight: even a convicted felon should have an opportunity to earn a living. She developed the point in reference to the demonetizing of Russell Brand's videos on YouTube. If his content does not violate any TOS, then what YouTube censors think of him personally should not matter. He does not represent them. As for Dove (and Ben and Jerry's, etc., also Unilever), boycott them if you want. No one is telling you what to buy.
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  13. @lizzieb6311  No one wants to be defamed in the first place, but if it happens, should the person who did it be hounded out of jobs? For how long? Forever? Instead of offering some sort of meaningful restitution? That could include a public apology. What is your idea of right and wrong, anyway?
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  14.  @lesaamoore  No disagreement! The details in the complaint are awful. I think she has very good lawyers, and she is a super sympathetic plaintiff. She has had to work her way through college entirely. The university could not have made a worse call. I think people got too mad at Brie this time for not showing outrage, etc. With a case pending (and given the fact that Reason magazine, where Robby is an editor, claims it broke the story), keeping her comments to the undisputed facts was wise. I think a defamation suit would be fine, too, but Bettinger chose not to pursue that, at least for the time being. I wish her great success.
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  15.  @fatrobdouble  That's up to the company. I don't think being a plus-size spokesmodel for a complexion soap is such a lofty job, but if it means so much to you, and you think she got rewarded for becoming known through her dishonest "activism," then boycott them. I've never been impressed by celebrities, so I don't know what this means to people who are. (I thought Shon Hopwood became a lawyer too easily, but we were supposed to cheer for him, too. Ugh.)
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  16.  @StevenPenny  Trust me, the complaint is a great read. Really hard-hitting. I'm so glad. I'm sure that just seeing it in black and white made her feel better. It really lays out what they put her through. And I agree, they have no MORALS, either.
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  17. @notawinemom8540  As it turns out, the Reason magazine story about this case is consistent with Brie's account here, down to the smallest details. Reason claims that they broke the story in the first place, and they linked to the complaint. Brie supports the suit, which is in federal court over serious money. She's not supposed to call anyone a liar with this case pending. Reason is not left. Check their coverage. If you don't like it, go after them.
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  18.  @Antitotalitarianrevolutionary  Is Reason magazine cultural Marxism? Lol.
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  19.  @notawinemom8540  Please provide sources.
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  20.  @CHX_37  Then I agree with you. I thought the analogy was misplaced for the reason I said. But I see your point, sure. Solid.
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  21.  @dayman0603  Calling everyone who disagrees with you "Brie" is the creative response of the day. You must have thought about that a long time.
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  22. @brianbenjamin653  Of course that's what she said.
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  23.  @ValisJnr  Let me see if I understand: Zayhna should be barred from a job which would allow her to make enough money to pay damages in defamation. Why would that be good? Some of what Zayhna said is probably defamation, but some of it is immunized: if you testify before a school tribunal, you cannot be held liable by the person you testify against, even if you don't tell the truth. Court has perjury rules, but universities might not have anything like that. They don't have hearsay rules, obviously, since this was all second-hand: Zayhna just repeated what another activist told her Bettinger said. She heard nothing herself. This is why everyone is so angry about how universities are handling these sorts of complaints now. It's a disgrace. The university violated Bettinger's civil rights rights. That's why Brie said from the start that they should have to answer for it. Did you even listen to this video? I don't know why you're pushing for outrage. I'm hoping for a real vindication in court. If Bettinger had to eat this injustice, then I'd be angry.
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  24. @fatrobdouble  Cool. I dislike most of what advertising does nearly all the time, and it's only getting worse. I see no issue with boycotts. Forgive me if I'm done with anger. Attacking Z in the press cannot aid Bettinger at all. It does nothing for her. If anything, it might hurt her, but probably will have no effect. I consider her case very important and wish her a resounding success.
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  25. ​@nottherealxandercrews4742 Actually, they will face a lawsuit. They should.
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  26. There is one way to hold her accountable: a defamation suit. Is there something else you'd prefer? I ask sincerely. What should happen?
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  27. @fatrobdouble  I agree. The facts spell out defamation. The suit against the University of Virginia has already been filed, in federal court. It's super hard-hitting, too. Bettinger is an exceptionally sympathetic plaintiff, the case is exceptionally extreme.
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  28. ​ @sbffsbrarbrr No. She strongly supports a lawsuit against the university.
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  29. @beautifully_scarred_lea  Correct, it was hearsay. Someone told her that that was what Bettinger had said, and that report was false. She believed it at the time and took action without verifying it. If Bettinger decides to pursue her for defamation, she has every right. Her complaint against the University of Virginia in federal court is posted on the Reason website, and it's really hard-hitting. She should do well. Brie's account of what happened IS consistent with what Reason magazine said had happened. Robby is senior editor there. Funny plot twist, that. With a case pending, these two aren't supposed to be denouncing anyone as malicious and deliberate. It doesn't help anyone get justice.
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  30.  @notawinemom8540  Did you consult print sources, court records, or mass media? (You do know how mass media makes its money, correct?)
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  31.  @notawinemom8540  I want to know what persuaded YOU to say what you did. Only YOU know that. I told you what I read. Tell me what you read. If you accuse a person of laziness, bad faith, or deliberate misrepresentation, offer some evidence. Or do we just presume that every accusation is true?
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  32.  @notawinemom8540  Nate the Lawyer is a poor lawyer generally, so I don't watch him. He must be right sometimes, I guess. Reason has the actual complaint on its website, free download. Bettinger has excellent lawyers. GOOD.
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  33.  @notawinemom8540  They consulted Reason, where Robby is an editor. Reason claims it broke the case.
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  34.  @jdspeck614    Just checked. The Reason magazine story is consistent with Brie's account here, down to the smallest details. Reason claims that they broke the story in the first place. Go look, then take it up with them.
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  35. The Reason magazine story is consistent with Brie's account here, down to the smallest details. Reason claims that they broke the story in the first place, and they linked to the complaint. Brie supports the suit, which is in federal court over serious money. That will help more than your bloviating.
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  36. ​ @Mark0003260 Just the opposite.
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  37. @lizzieb6311  oops forgot to mute you
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  38. Just checked. The Reason magazine story is fully consistent with Brie's account here, down to the smallest detail. Reason claims that they broke the story in the first place. Go look. Then take it up with Reason. They also linked to the actual lawsuit. I plan to read it now. That's where facts usually are -- where lying could mean trouble.
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  39.  @lizzieb6311  You said I wasn't decent and only cared about money. I didn't realize that was a compliment coming from you.
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  40.  @lizzieb6311  Reason claims they broke this story, and Robby is a senior editor there. Looks like it's their facts you are mad at. Lol, what a plot twist. It's the other host's rag that provided the facts you don't like.
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  41. @rickgee5962   Well, it turns out that the Reason magazine story is consistent with Brie's account here, down to the smallest details. Reason claims that they broke the story in the first place. Take it up with them. With a case in federal court pending, Brie is not supposed to call anyone a liar. Doesn't Robby work for Reason? I forget. In any case. Reason is not the left.
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  42. @lesaamoore  I agree. I don't think Brie said that. The lawsuit is up on the Reason magazine website, in free pdf. It's really hard-hitting. Bettinger is a very sympathetic plaintiff.
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  43.  @ValisJnr  Read the complaint and see what the university did. They are culpable.
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  44.  @StevenPenny Bettinger brought a federal lawsuit against the University of Virginia. The pdf of the complaint is up on the Reason magazine website. She has super good lawyers. It's a civil rights action for an injunction and major damages, and I think she'll win.
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  45.  @ValisJnr  Like I said, she can sue for defamation. In any case, the University is not the victim here. Not by ANY stretch. Do you think Russel Brand should be deprived of a big chunk of his income, too? I don't.
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  46.  @ValisJnr  Robby is editor of Reason, which claims it broke the story. Their reporting here is consistent with Reason magazine's reporting, and what the University did to her goes far beyond finally agreeing to release her degree. I support Bettinger if she chooses to file a defamation suit as well, and get some of that Dove money to satisfy the judgment. Looks like you didn't do your research. Read the complaint. (Did you just listen to videos or something?)
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  47.  @fatrobdouble  Reason magazine, where Robby is an editor, is opposed to the Dove boycott. FYI, simply. They are center-right libertarians. Go figure.
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  48.  @fatrobdouble  Neither am I.
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  49. ​ @sbffsbrarbrr Brie has the same position with respect to Brand and BOTH of these women. Stop the cancelation madness.
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  50. ​ @sbffsbrarbrr Actually, not quite. She agrees a boycott is within the rights of anyone who chooses to have one. But she thinks all of the allegations and wrongdoing (such as by that university) need to be tested in court, not in these little mobs that keep forming like locust swarms.
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  51. @fetB  Okay. Could you please explain to me what you think should happen? Sue the university, sue for defamation? Does that sound right to you? I think that's fine. What else should happen?
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  52. @fetB  Why did I answer you? That's the only question. I don't care. This stuff belongs in court. The woman targeted should be compensated fully, for everything done to her. Don't buy Unilever products. Your money, your right. What else has to happen?
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  53.  @fetB  Just checked. The Reason magazine story is consistent with Brie's account here. Reason claims that they broke the story in the first place. Go look.
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  54. @fetB But where was she supposed to get the facts YOU consider to be facts? Where did you get your facts? Now that this is in federal court, we can actually count on some real facts coming out. Brie's account here is consistent with what Reason printed, down to the smallest detail. With a federal case against U of Virginia pending, Brie is not supposed to call anyone a liar. Jeez, this so primitive. The complaint in the case is hard-hitting, a really good read. Bettinger should get her life back after this travesty, all right! Outrage in the comments could not help her out with that. A lawsuit will.
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  55. @fetB  Well good grief, you go find them. You are really nuts. Where did you get YOUR facts? Were you an investigative journalist on the scene? With this in court, we will all get facts.
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  56. @fetB  Great, blocking you, forget it. You didn't do ANY research, you wouldn't know the difference between a federal complaint and a supermarket tabloid, and you can't stand being found out. You just want everyone to crank up the outrage meter to 11. Then they are doing the right thing. Isn't that what the activists did to Bettinger? Yeah. It is.
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  57. @CaroleCouture-xt6qe  I explained to you that with a case pending, Brie is handling this as she should be at the moment. Maybe you didn't do your research? Is that possible? Or that informed people might disagree on how facts should be handled, especially with a case pending? How the University handled the investigation IS an issue in the case. It's a major issue.
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  58.  @fetB  And where did you get them? I read the magazine that purports to have been first to break the story. I also read the complaint.
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  59.  @fetB  blocked from my feed
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  60.  @fetB  Name your sources, I promise to read them. I mean it.
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