Comments by "L.W. Paradis" (@l.w.paradis2108) on "Gutfeld: Don’t employ these ghouls" video.

  1. I'm glad to see free speech is alive and well.
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  2. Did you actually read their statement? I did not, hence cannot condemn it. I don't believe everyone denouncing the statement carefully read it.
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  3. It certainly does mean freedom from certain consequences. It depends on which ones you mean. Say. Have you ever read a First Amendment Supreme Court case? Try RAV v. City of St Paul as your intro.
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  4. What is the significance of that distinction according to you? Are these just labels, like preferred pronouns, or was there a substantive point in underlining the distinction?
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  5.  @crewchief5144  How do you know what the statement said? Full disclosure: I have no idea what it said. I am listening to Israeli viewpoints, meaning all Israeli viewpoints. Pampered American viewpoints are of no interest to me, and that includes these talking heads.
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  6. How many of the people cheering for condemnation of the students have read the statement? You trust media comments instead?
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  7. So . . . You read the statement? What does it say? Or do Gutfeld and Co. predigest all reading material for you?
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  8. @mikebryant614  I don't know how you see those things unless you tell me. I would never equate democracy with mob rule in any manner, or see it as a step toward mob rule, for example.
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  9. Did you read their statement? Does it suggest that? How does it compare with the Haaretz editorial and Gideon Levy's work?
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  10. @fenix6297  You not only identified the allegedly offensive statements as "pro-Hamas," you identified the "grads" as "pro-Hamas," in the adjective position directly before the noun. My question was therefore well-founded, whether you particularly like it or not. You could have responded by saying, "I know no such thing. I'm simply stating what the issue is to those Wall Street firms." In any case, maybe those firms have no basis at all to think those grads ARE pro-Hamas, and you could have said you weren't endorsing (what you assumed to be) their view. It's not that tough. I'm not afraid to ask direct questions. I hope I didn't hurt your feelings or make you feel unsafe. I have no idea what "90%" of people "know" about freedom of speech. That has got to be the biggest assumption of the night. Looks like I didn't make it. Of course you didn't address my other, more important points. It was wonderful to hear Glenn Greenwald tonight. One forgets what an intelligent lawyer and journalist sounds like. All sparring aside, his show was excellent. There are far too many people pushing for a wider war, and he named names and provided direct quotes. Maybe when you settle down, get some sleep, etc., you might deign to watch it. You could also, like, read the allegedly offensive statement and see what it says. I don't agree with it, but I see no support for terror or war crimes in the statement. (The personal views of some of the people who signed it might be worse, however.) Did you get around to that? Reading it, I mean? I know, it's late.
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  11.  @RIbigDave  Actually, it does, depending on whether the entity, like Harvard for example, has formally adopted the First Amendment as a principle of academic freedom -- not to mention when the government uses private entities (like Facebook, etc.) to censor on its behalf, which is more obvious. But I don't expect you to know that.
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  12.  @RIbigDave  Besides all that, and pragmatically speaking, why should Americans who, rightly OR wrongly, criticized a foreign government face any deleterious consequences? You seem to think the threat to shut people up is consistent with the values enshrined in our Bill of Rights. Well I don't. We just went through this, with persecuting people during the pandemic.
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  13.  @enufots4621  Show us where they supported Hamas.
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  14. @I_Never_Read_Comment_Replies  Well you're as quick to get rid of the First Amendment as a typical wokester or vaccine mandate promoter. And why? Because Americans -- rightly OR wrongly -- criticized a foreign government. When does this ____ stop?
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  15. Don't worry. No one you know will.
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  16. If the statement is not included, neither should the signatures to it.
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  17.  @crewchief5144  You mean the one where people read a text before denouncing it on command? That's an echo chamber? I thought that was every free country. Well, I thought so before COVID. Speaking of free speech, Glenn Greenwald is talking about this very subject tonight. I am going to check it out.
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  18. Maybe they don't. This is all fodder for the masses.
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  19. Since you support critical thinking, I'm assuming you read the statement they signed. How does it compare with the Haaretz editorial and Gideon Levy's articles? Full disclosure: I myself have not read the students' statement, but I do follow Haaretz. To be frank, I care about Israeli views, meaning all Israeli views. American college students' views are not of interest to me.
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  20. @fenix6297  1) How do you know the statement was pro-Hamas? Did you read it? 2) Ah! So you DO know that it depends on the consequences we are considering! Nice. Good. OP did not appear to understand. He was just repeating slogans. 3) Speaking of free speech, Glenn Greenwald is discussing this very issue tonight. I'm going to see what he has to say.
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  21. @enufots4621  Well, first read their statement and compare it to the Haaretz editorial. The students' statement blames Israel for the attack, whereas the Haaretz editorial states that Netanyahu bears most of the blame. I don't agree with the students' statement, and I do not know whether any of them privately support Hamas, but I see no way to read their statement as supporting Hamas. Literally not at all. Glenn Greenwald analyzed the logic as being "either you are for us, or you are against us," comparing it to the rhetoric that got us into Afghanistan and Iraq for a generation. His programs this week were tremendous.
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  22. How many people denouncing the students have read the statement?
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  23.  @BillyColeII-dr6dk  So, don't bother to read it. I told another poster, they were doxxed and got threats.
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  24.  @BillyColeII-dr6dk  Maybe the next time there is a vaccine mandate, you should be threatened if you object?
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  25.  @BillyColeII-dr6dk  I already answered this for you in another thread. Do you have the memory of Hunter, or Joe? 😂
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  26. Great news!! The major donor to the Harvard Kennedy School of Government, Leslie Wexner, has severed all ties!! You remember Wexner? Jeffrey Epstein was his protégé.
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  27. Google? That tells you stuff "ha ha?" No libraries out by you?
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  28.  @phoenixmistertwo8815  Show me where I did.
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  29.  @BillyColeII-dr6dk  Hypocrite? That sounds right.
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  30.  @BillyColeII-dr6dk  I always look to read stuff for myself.
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  31. No wonder you'd vote for a cartoon character for president.
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  32. @crewchief5144  You kinda have to read a thing to know what the thing says. I asked three questions. I made no comparisons. I assumed you must know, since your feewees are sooooo strong. When I feel strongly, I actually do work; you know, research, read, think.
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  33. Did you read the statement?
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  34. Great news!! The major donor to the Harvard Kennedy School of Government, Leslie Wexner, has severed all ties!! You remember Wexner? Jeffrey Epstein was his protégé.
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  35. Source?
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  36. Great news!! The major donor to the Harvard Kennedy School of Government, Leslie Wexner, has severed all ties!! You remember Wexner? Jeffrey Epstein was his protégé. He's not handing out his money any more, for this. Wexner has principles.
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  37. @fenix6297  1) I didn't say you did. You said the OP's post referred to "Wall Street firms not hiring pro-Hamas grads." Hence I posed a well-founded question, based on your post. I didn't assume YOU thought the students' statement was indeed "pro-Hamas." I don't know your thoughts. 2) My comment about consequences was addressed to the OP. Your remarks to me are all non sequiturs. OP appears not to know that speech on political matters is indeed free of plenty of "consequences." That's the whole point of freedom of speech and expression. And if OP is just trotting out mindless slogans, why do you think he knows to make fine distinctions? Also, and this is addressed to you, none of these principles are "tidbits." I think I made a good recommendation to OP to wrap his head around some serious grappling with free speech, for a general perspective. I think everyone should read that case -- especially the concurrence. The fact that it deals with criminal law is important for the holding, of course, but the wider context is important as well. Valuing free speech as an integral part of our culture is crucial to its continued existence. In fact, that's exactly what Greenwald discussed in a serious way tonight. This show is just taking people down the wrong road . . . again. And making money doing it. But they call on someone else not to have a job. Risible!
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  38.  @fenix6297  You seem not to know what assumptions are, as distinguished from, say, questions. Does that work out for you? 😂
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  39.  @fenix6297  You're right, I do not suffer from self-loathing. I lived in Paris long enough to be definitively cured of that.
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  40.  @veritas220  Nope, Paris IV
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  41. @davemarolda5612  It also doesn't mean you can coerce a college to publish lists of members in student organizations. Remember when some of the really prestigious ones were secret? Skull and Bones rings a bell?
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  42. @crewchief5144  Well that was lucid.
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  43. @crewchief5144  Well you're as quick to get rid of the First Amendment as a typical wokester or vaccine mandate promoter. And why? Because Americans -- rightly OR wrongly -- criticized a foreign government. When does this stop? Meanwhile in Israel, Haaretz has denounced Netanyahu, and this weekend, there are calls -- in Israel -- for him to resign. Are they still allowed to speak their minds?
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  44.  @crewchief5144  Never heard of such a thing. Need to know basis?
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  45.  @crewchief5144  Last I heard, Americans can criticize any country. Some reason to amend the Constitution? No?
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  46.  @crewchief5144  I don't listen to that thing. No wonder I had no idea.
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  47. So let me ask you, have you read the statement? Then how do you know what it says, and that it should be condemned? Have you read the Haaretz editorial? Does the statement go beyond what Haaretz said? Full disclosure: I have read Haaretz, I have not read the Harvard students' statement. I'm interested in all Israeli views, not in American college student views. I'm just interested in whether you yourself practice critical thinking since you assert the need to value it.
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  48.  @Alice-m7e  If you read, you might not get duped yet again. I thought COVID taught everyone the value of finding things out for themselves. Not you, huh?
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  49.  @Alice-m7e  Your favorite four letter word is a rather odd choice.
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