Comments by "L.W. Paradis" (@l.w.paradis2108) on "OxfordUnion"
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The first student brought up a contradiction in Bannon's rhetoric concerning "Judeo-Christian" values, and his response was a little too rambling and defensive.
The second student did the same, highlighting actual contradictions in what Bannon is on record as having said. This is classically Socratic. The answer was very interesting, because Bannon's best ideas are NOT the ones that were implemented. Travel bans, sure. Accountability for the economic destruction wrought by Big Money? HA. Trump depends on Deutsche Bank. Bannon also used a slogan word in his answer, "triggered." Not a good sign.
The third student gave him an opportunity to comment on the demonstrators, who were the real deplorables in this picture. No problem. Bannon again gave an answer that shows that his best ideas are NOT the ones that are implemented. The student then pointed out that those who have attained political power are publicly distancing themselves from him, and asked him to comment. Again, interesting. Bannon did not mind the question.
The fourth student began by taking a stand for freedom of speech, then asked an excellent question about Bannon's view of Trump's and the Republicans' election prospects in 2020.
The fifth student first thanked him for staying over, to talk to them. Then she asked a very astute question about about political trust. Bannon appreciated the question, and was enthusiastic about answering, because it gave him a chance to talk about the things he is most passionate about. She made a counterpoint, and he tried to play folksy. He used another trope that she did not, "sorry for mansplaining."
The sixth student said that the economic progess was not thanks to Trump, and that Trump did not, in general, solve the problems Bannon correctly highlights. AGAIN, Bannon's best ideas were NOT not not implemented. And Bannon DOES have lots of good ideas.
The seventh student asked a very open-ended question on immigration, allowing Bannon to express himself on a matter he is passionate about, and show off some more of his good ideas. Which go nowhere. See a pattern here?
So, who was so disappointing? I thought it was illuminating. Bannon is interesting to watch. Nothing ever comes of the good policies he endorses -- especially on taxes! Ha.
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The first student brought up a contradiction in Bannon's rhetoric, and his response was a little too rambling and defensive.
The second student did the same, highlighting actual contradictions. This is classically Socratic. The answer was very interesting, because Bannon's best ideas are NOT the ones that were implemented. Travel bans, sure. Accountability for the destruction wrought by Big Money? HA. Trump depends on Deutsche Bank. Bannon also used a slogan in his answer, "triggered." Not a good sign.
The third student gave him an opportunity to comment on the demonstrators, who were the real deplorables. No problem. Bannon again gave an answer that shows that his best ideas are NOT the ones that are implemented. The student then pointed out that those who have attained political power are publicly distancing themselves from him, and asked him to comment. Again, interesting. Bannon did not mind the question.
The fourth student began by taking a stand for freedom of speech, obviously in opposition to the noisy crowd outside, then asked an excellent question about Bannon's view of election prospects in 2020.
The fifth student first thanked him for staying over, to talk to them. Then she asked a very astute question about about political trust. Bannon appreciated the question, and was enthusiastic about answering, because it gave him a chance to talk about the things he is most passionate about. She made a counterpoint, and he tried to play folksy. He used another trope that she did not, "sorry for mansplaining."
The sixth student said that the economic progess was not thanks to Trump, and that Trump did not, in general, solve the problems Bannon correctly highlights. AGAIN, Bannon's best ideas were NOT not not implemented. And Bannon DOES have lots of good ideas.
The seventh student asked a very open-ended question on immigration, allowing Bannon to express himself on a matter he is passionate about, and show off some more of his good ideas. Which go nowhere.
So, who was so disappointing?
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@cozytown5540 The first student brought up a contradiction in Bannon's rhetoric concerning "Judeo-Christian" values, and his response was a little too rambling and defensive.
The second student did the same, highlighting actual contradictions in what Bannon is on record as having said. This is classically Socratic. The answer was very interesting, because Bannon's best ideas are NOT the ones that were implemented. Travel bans, sure. Accountability for the economic destruction wrought by Big Money? HA. Trump depends on Deutsche Bank. Bannon also used a slogan word in his answer, "triggered." Not a good sign.
The third student gave him an opportunity to comment on the demonstrators, who were the real deplorables in this picture. No problem. Bannon again gave an answer that shows that his best ideas are NOT the ones that are implemented. The student then pointed out that those who have attained political power are publicly distancing themselves from him, and asked him to comment. Again, interesting. Bannon did not mind the question.
The fourth student began by taking a stand for freedom of speech, clearly indicating disapproval of the din outside, then asked an excellent question about Bannon's view of Trump's and the Republicans' election prospects in 2020.
The fifth student first thanked him for staying over, to talk to them. Then she asked a very astute question about about political trust. Bannon appreciated the question, and was enthusiastic about answering, because it gave him a chance to talk about the things he is most passionate about. She made a counterpoint, and he tried to play folksy. He used another trope that she did not, when he said "sorry for mansplaining."
The sixth student said that the economic progess was not thanks to Trump, and that Trump did not, in general, solve the problems Bannon correctly highlights. AGAIN, Bannon's best ideas were NOT not not implemented. And Bannon DOES have lots of good ideas. All dead in the water. Mysteriously.
The seventh student asked a very open-ended question on immigration, allowing Bannon to express himself on a matter he is passionate about, and show off some more of his good ideas. Which go nowhere. See a pattern here?
So, who was so disappointing? I thought it was illuminating. Bannon is interesting to watch. Nothing ever comes of the few good policies he endorses -- especially on taxes!
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The first student brought up a contradiction in Bannon's rhetoric, and his response was a little too rambling and defensive.
The second student did the same, highlighting actual contradictions. This is classically Socratic. The answer was very interesting, because Bannon's best ideas are NOT the ones that were implemented. Travel bans, sure. Accountability for the destruction wrought by Big Money? HA. Trump depends on Deutsche Bank. Bannon also used a slogan in his answer, "triggered." Not a good sign.
The third student gave him an opportunity to comment on the demonstrators, who were the real deplorables. No problem. Bannon again gave an answer that shows that his best ideas are NOT the ones that are implemented. The student then pointed out that those who have attained political power are publicly distancing themselves from him, and asked him to comment. Again, interesting. Bannon did not mind the question.
The fourth student began by taking a stand for freedom of speech, then asked an excellent question about Bannon's view of election prospects in 2020.
The fifth student first thanked him for staying over, to talk to them. Then she asked a very astute question about about political trust. Bannon appreciated the question, and was enthusiastic about answering, because it gave him a chance to talk about the things he is most passionate about. She made a counterpoint, and he tried to play folksy. He used another trope that she did not, "sorry for mansplaining."
The sixth student said that the economic progess was not thanks to Trump, and that Trump did not, in general, solve the problems Bannon correctly highlights. AGAIN, Bannon's best ideas were NOT not not implemented. And Bannon DOES have lots of good ideas.
The seventh student asked a very open-ended question on immigration, allowing Bannon to express himself on a matter he is passionate about, and show off some more of his good ideas. Which go nowhere.
So, who was so disappointing?
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The first student brought up a contradiction in Bannon's rhetoric concerning "Judeo-Christian" values, and his response was a little too rambling and defensive.
The second student did the same, highlighting actual contradictions in what Bannon is on record as having said. This is classically Socratic. The answer was very interesting, because Bannon's best ideas are NOT the ones that were implemented. Travel bans, sure. Accountability for the economic destruction wrought by Big Money? HA. Trump depends on Deutsche Bank. Bannon also used a slogan word in his answer, "triggered." Not a good sign.
The third student gave him an opportunity to comment on the demonstrators, who were the real deplorables in this picture. No problem. Bannon again gave an answer that shows that his best ideas are NOT the ones that are implemented. The student then pointed out that those who have attained political power are publicly distancing themselves from him, and asked him to comment. Again, interesting. Bannon did not mind the question.
The fourth student began by taking a stand for freedom of speech, then asked an excellent question about Bannon's view of Trump's and the Republicans' election prospects in 2020.
The fifth student first thanked him for staying over, to talk to them. Then she asked a very astute question about about political trust. Bannon appreciated the question, and was enthusiastic about answering, because it gave him a chance to talk about the things he is most passionate about. She made a counterpoint, and he tried to play folksy. He used another trope that she did not, "sorry for mansplaining."
The sixth student said that the economic progess was not thanks to Trump, and that Trump did not, in general, solve the problems Bannon correctly highlights. AGAIN, Bannon's best ideas were NOT not not implemented. And Bannon DOES have lots of good ideas.
The seventh student asked a very open-ended question on immigration, allowing Bannon to express himself on a matter he is passionate about, and show off some more of his good ideas. Which go nowhere. See a pattern here?
So, who was so bad? I thought it was illuminating. Bannon is interesting to watch. Nothing ever comes of the good policies he endorses -- especially on taxes! Ha.
Envy of the young is always such a sad stance to adopt. That is one war you cannot win. Thank goodness.
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@annak29 The number of people who participate in ELECTIONS was the issue. Do you believe the extraordinarily high participation rate in the last election, 2020, is a result of, or evidence of, the "vibrancy" of American democracy? When most people voted against the other candidate, rather than for anyone, that is a hard case to make -- regardless of whether or not you believe there were gross irregularities that affected the outcome.
The dismal Democratic primary season, and the lack of any meaningful challenge from the moderate Republicans to Trump in the Republican primaries, and the incessant culture wars nonsense ("impeach Trump!!" "Russia!!!" "Joe is a socialist!" "Antifa is taking over!!") at a time when most people want and need real leadership and actual policies that benefit regular working people, is more evidence of just how "vibrant" the democracy is.
Amazon, Apple, Google, Microsoft, the Davos crowd, etc., and of course MSM have more to say about what's in store for you than anyone you might vote for. Their needs will be met all right. Yours, only by accident.
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The first student brought up a contradiction in Bannon's rhetoric concerning "Judeo-Christian" values, and his response was a little too rambling and defensive.
The second student did the same, highlighting actual contradictions in what Bannon is on record as having said. This is classically Socratic. The answer was very interesting, because Bannon's best ideas are NOT the ones that are implemented. Travel bans, sure. Accountability for the economic destruction wrought by Big Money? HA. Trump depends on Deutsche Bank. Bannon also used a slogan word in his answer, "triggered." Not a good sign. In general, his style of speaking is above that.
The third student gave him an opportunity to comment on the demonstrators, who were the real deplorables in this picture. No problem. Bannon again gave an answer that shows that his best ideas are NOT the ones that are implemented. The student then pointed out that those who have attained political power are publicly distancing themselves from him, and asked him to comment. Again, interesting. Bannon did not mind the question.
The fourth student began by taking a stand for freedom of speech, then asked an excellent question about Bannon's view of Trump's and the Republicans' election prospects in 2020.
The fifth student first thanked him for staying over, to talk to them. Then she asked a very astute question about about political trust. Bannon appreciated the question, and was enthusiastic about answering, because it gave him a chance to talk about the things he is most passionate about. She made a counterpoint, and he tried to play folksy. He used another trope that she did not, "sorry for mansplaining."
The sixth student said that the economic progess was not thanks to Trump, and that Trump did not, in general, solve the problems Bannon correctly highlights. AGAIN, Bannon's best ideas were NOT not not implemented. And Bannon DOES have lots of good ideas.
The seventh student asked a very open-ended question on immigration, allowing Bannon to express himself on a matter he is passionate about, and show off some more of his good ideas. Which go nowhere. See a pattern here?
So, who was so disappointing? I thought it was illuminating. Bannon is interesting to watch. Nothing ever comes of the good policies he endorses -- especially on taxes! Ha.
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The first student brought up a contradiction in Bannon's rhetoric concerning "Judeo-Christian" values, and his response was a little too rambling and defensive.
The second student did the same, highlighting actual contradictions in what Bannon is on record as having said. This is classically Socratic. The answer was very interesting, because Bannon's best ideas are NOT the ones that were implemented. Travel bans, sure. Accountability for the economic destruction wrought by Big Money? HA. Trump depends on Deutsche Bank. Bannon also used a slogan word in his answer, "triggered." Not a good sign.
The third student gave him an opportunity to comment on the demonstrators, who were the real deplorables in this picture. No problem. Bannon again gave an answer that shows that his best ideas are NOT the ones that are implemented. The student then pointed out that those who have attained political power are publicly distancing themselves from him, and asked him to comment. Again, interesting. Bannon did not mind the question.
The fourth student began by taking a stand for freedom of speech, then asked an excellent question about Bannon's view of Trump's and the Republicans' election prospects in 2020.
The fifth student first thanked him for staying over, to talk to them. Then she asked a very astute question about about political trust. Bannon appreciated the question, and was enthusiastic about answering, because it gave him a chance to talk about the things he is most passionate about. She made a counterpoint, and he tried to play folksy. He used another trope that she did not, "sorry for mansplaining."
The sixth student said that the economic progess was not thanks to Trump, and that Trump did not, in general, solve the problems Bannon correctly highlights. AGAIN, Bannon's best ideas were NOT not not implemented. And Bannon DOES have lots of good ideas.
The seventh student asked a very open-ended question on immigration, allowing Bannon to express himself on a matter he is passionate about, and show off some more of his good ideas. Which go nowhere. See a pattern here?
So, who was so disappointing? I thought it was illuminating. Bannon is interesting to watch. Nothing ever comes of the good policies he endorses -- especially on taxes! Ha.
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@keithwilliams8342 Prove it up. Let's see a reading list, syllabus, a taped class, etc.
EDIT: a breeze to find; I just did.
This was interesting -- the suggested reading list for undergraduates in English, to complete before they come to campus:
Anne Brontë, The Tenant of Wildfell Hall
Charlotte Brontë, Jane Eyre; Villette
Emily Brontë, Wuthering Heights
Charles Dickens, Great Expectations
George Eliot, Middlemarch
Elizabeth Gaskell, North and South
William Thackeray, Vanity Fair
Hm. Looks rather classic to me. (In France, they'd be reading Zola in high school, so there's that. The Anglosphere tends to be to the right of most of Europe. Not always, of course, but as a rough generalization.)
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@chiphill4856 Sure, and thank you! Also, as soon as you ask them to back up their allegations, they have nothing to offer. Of course not.
There's a lot that is wrong with university today, but nearly of it stems from serving the concerns of corporations and imitating the business model. (Big example -- the "competitiveness" and the cost, and the erosion of free speech rights, which are essential nonexistent in a private sector workplace, where you most certainly can be fired for your opinions or for upsetting your coworkers with your views. Another tell -- the costs are going up vastly more than the quality of the education they provide, which they are able to impose based on branding. Classic business model!)
Try to get a right-winger to admit any of it! THEY demanded that schools be more "business oriented." Well, the most common major for at least 30 years now has been Business Administration. Next comes all the medical fields, with Nursing on top. And the typical workplace is not a First Amendment forum by any stretch.
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@tonyrmathis All sorts of things are possible. Perhaps the Vietnamese are descendant from aliens who came to earth from another planet. That might explain it.
But I'm genuinely puzzled. When did I say more money was the answer? Isn't "more money" what Wall Street always needs? (Seems that Trump, Bannon, the Biden family, Nancy-kins, etc., all do, too.) You also seem to know who is "causing the failure." And "preventing to [sic] who depend on them from seeking alternatives." Who would that be? Who can you pin that one on?
The educational system in the US is the most capitalistic of all, since it relies heavily on local taxes for its revenue, guaranteeing vast inequalities AND training its charges to view this as "natural." Moreover, the private school system is so different, and teaches such vastly different things, that it may as well be in a separate country. It is evident that there isn't any commitment to universal public education based on equal opportunity. In fact, a conservative columnist over at The Atlantic writes about it this month. Great article.
France once had a system within which anyone who presented themselves for the aggregation civil service exam, the highest rank for educators and a requirement for eventual university teaching, would have to teach the upper grades of lycee for a number of years, wherever they might be sent. Simone de Beauvoir did that. She taught high school. (Not in Paris, either.) No cushy nonsense back then. Today, I don't want to ask. (Though it is interesting that Melenchon wants to see Latin and Greek widely taught in the public schools, so maybe there is hope?)
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The first student brought up a contradiction in Bannon's rhetoric, and his response was a little too rambling and defensive.
The second student did the same, highlighting actual contradictions. This is classically Socratic. The answer was very interesting, because Bannon's best ideas are NOT the ones that were implemented. Travel bans, sure. Accountability for the destruction wrought by Big Money? HA. Trump depends on Deutsche Bank. Bannon also used a slogan in his answer, "triggered." Not a good sign.
The third student gave him an opportunity to comment on the demonstrators, who were the real deplorables. No problem. Bannon again gave an answer that shows that his best ideas are NOT the ones that are implemented. The student then pointed out that those who have attained political power are publicly distancing themselves from him, and asked him to comment. Again, interesting. Bannon did not mind the question.
The fourth student began by taking a stand for freedom of speech, then asked an excellent question about Bannon's view of election prospects in 2020.
The fifth student first thanked him for staying over, to talk to them. Then she asked a very astute question about about political trust. Bannon appreciated the question, and was enthusiastic about answering, because it gave him a chance to talk about the things he is most passionate about. She made a counterpoint, and he tried to play folksy. He used another trope that she did not, "sorry for mansplaining."
The sixth student said that the economic progess was not thanks to Trump, and that Trump did not, in general, solve the problems Bannon correctly highlights. AGAIN, Bannon's best ideas were NOT not not implemented. And Bannon DOES have lots of good ideas.
The seventh student asked a very open-ended question on immigration, allowing Bannon to express himself on a matter he is passionate about, and show off some more of his good ideas. Which go nowhere. (The bad ones get implemented immediately.) Starting to see a pattern?
So, who was so disappointing? The students were fine. You are biased against them.
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The first student brought up a contradiction in Bannon's rhetoric, and his response was a little too rambling and defensive.
The second student did the same, highlighting actual contradictions. This is classically Socratic. The answer was very interesting, because Bannon's best ideas are NOT the ones that were implemented. Travel bans, sure. Accountability for the destruction wrought by Big Money? HA. Trump depends on Deutsche Bank. Bannon also used a slogan in his answer, "triggered." Not a good sign.
The third student gave him an opportunity to comment on the demonstrators, who were the real deplorables. No problem. Bannon again gave an answer that shows that his best ideas are NOT the ones that are implemented. The student then pointed out that those who have attained political power are publicly distancing themselves from him, and asked him to comment. Again, interesting. Bannon did not mind the question.
The fourth student began by taking a stand for freedom of speech, then asked an excellent question about Bannon's view of election prospects in 2020.
The fifth student first thanked him for staying over, to talk to them. Then she asked a very astute question about about political trust. Bannon appreciated the question, and was enthusiastic about answering, because it gave him a chance to talk about the things he is most passionate about. She made a counterpoint, and he tried to play folksy. He used another trope that she did not, "sorry for mansplaining."
The sixth student said that the economic progess was not thanks to Trump, and that Trump did not, in general, solve the problems Bannon correctly highlights. AGAIN, Bannon's best ideas were NOT not not implemented. And Bannon DOES have lots of good ideas.
The seventh student asked a very open-ended question on immigration, allowing Bannon to express himself on a matter he is passionate about, and show off some more of his good ideas. Which go nowhere.
So, who was so disappointing?
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The first student brought up a contradiction in Bannon's rhetoric, and his response was a little too rambling and defensive.
The second student did the same, highlighting actual contradictions. This is classically Socratic. The answer was very interesting, because Bannon's best ideas are NOT the ones that were implemented. Travel bans, sure. Accountability for the destruction wrought by Big Money? HA. Trump depends on Deutsche Bank. Bannon also used a slogan in his answer, "triggered." Not a good sign.
The third student gave him an opportunity to comment on the demonstrators, who were the real deplorables. No problem. Bannon again gave an answer that shows that his best ideas are NOT the ones that are implemented. The student then pointed out that those who have attained political power are publicly distancing themselves from him, and asked him to comment. Again, interesting. Bannon did not mind the question.
The fourth student began by taking a stand for freedom of speech, then asked an excellent question about Bannon's view of election prospects in 2020.
The fifth student first thanked him for staying over, to talk to them. Then she asked a very astute question about about political trust. Bannon appreciated the question, and was enthusiastic about answering, because it gave him a chance to talk about the things he is most passionate about. She made a counterpoint, and he tried to play folksy. He used another trope that she did not, "sorry for mansplaining."
The sixth student said that the economic progess was not thanks to Trump, and that Trump did not, in general, solve the problems Bannon correctly highlights. AGAIN, Bannon's best ideas were NOT not not implemented. And Bannon DOES have lots of good ideas.
The seventh student asked a very open-ended question on immigration, allowing Bannon to express himself on a matter he is passionate about, and show off some more of his good ideas. Which go nowhere.
So, who was so disappointing?
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@heathfairbairn2460 I analyzed each question based on the actual facts of what was said, by the student posing the question, and by how Bannon took it and answered. And I showed how all the questions showed perspicuity, and that from them, an overarching theme emerged: Bannon has some very good policy suggestions, and those go nowhere. You should think about that. But more to the point: everybody here, or very nearly so, thinks exactly like you do. One lone individual does not -- and you are apoplectic. You can't stand it. (Is that your underlying weakness for Benthamism that has you so agitated? You always count heads, as though they were money? I'll bet! The continent holds a more Kantian view.)
And you are compelled to insult me, and you think I have a problem. In fact, I'm not qualified to comment! I've failed to honor your feelings!!
You must not embarrass easily. Either that, or recursive thinking isn't happening over by you.
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The first student brought up a contradiction in Bannon's rhetoric concerning "Judeo-Christian" values, and his response was a little too rambling and defensive.
The second student did the same, highlighting actual contradictions in what Bannon is on record as having said. This is classically Socratic. The answer was very interesting, because Bannon's best ideas are NOT the ones that are implemented. Travel bans, sure. Accountability for the economic destruction wrought by Big Money? HA. Trump depends on Deutsche Bank. Bannon also used a slogan word in his answer, "triggered." Not a good sign. In general, his style of speaking is above that.
The third student gave him an opportunity to comment on the demonstrators, who were the real deplorables in this picture. No problem. Bannon again gave an answer that shows that his best ideas are NOT the ones that are implemented. The student then pointed out that those who have attained political power are publicly distancing themselves from him, and asked him to comment. Again, interesting. Bannon did not mind the question.
The fourth student began by taking a stand for freedom of speech, and only then asked an excellent question about Bannon's view of Trump's and the Republicans' election prospects in 2020.
The fifth student first thanked him for staying over, to talk to them. Then she asked a very astute question about about political trust. Bannon appreciated the question, and was enthusiastic about answering, because it gave him a chance to talk about the things he is most passionate about. She made a counterpoint, and he tried to play folksy. He used another trope that she did not, "sorry for mansplaining."
The sixth student said that the economic progess was not thanks to Trump, and that Trump did not, in general, solve the problems Bannon correctly highlights. AGAIN, Bannon's best ideas were NOT not not implemented. And Bannon DOES have lots of good ideas.
The seventh student asked a very open-ended question on immigration, allowing Bannon to express himself on a matter he is passionate about, and show off some more of his good ideas. Which go nowhere. See a pattern here?
So, who was ridiculous? I thought it was illuminating. Bannon is interesting to watch. Nothing ever comes of the good policies he endorses -- especially on taxes! Ha.
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