Comments by "L.W. Paradis" (@l.w.paradis2108) on "Intelligence Squared"
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@oleggorky906 Lenin's parents were considered to be a "fine Russian family" -- despite having no, or almost no, Russian ancestry. His parents' marriage might have been illegal in a few states here at that time. It wasn't evident whether or not it was interracial! LOL
Drawing racial lines is perforce racist, every time. But directly experiencing the fact that the lines are drawn in different places by different peoples destroys the whole idea that it could be "objective" in any sense, rather than arbitrary and wholly socially constructed and imposed. After living in France long enough, the American lines got blurred for me. For a while I wasn't always sure who was considered black. I think I know now. My parents never did catch on completely.
Anyway, a long story in order to justify the observation that saying someone is Ethiopian and Orthodox when they are West African might not be so innocent. It might not just be based on a proper sense of shame for accepting a slave as a gift (gawd, even saying that makes a person nauseous, doesn't it?). A lot of non-Western Europeans would never consider Ethiopians, Sudanese of the upper Nile ("Nubians"), etc., "black." They do draw a line (with "better" on "their" side, as usual), just not in the same place. But maybe I'm being a little too cynical. I don't know. Just something to think about.
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