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Comments by "L.W. Paradis" (@l.w.paradis2108) on "FULL INTERVIEW: Who will win in the Depp vs Heard case? Faran Fronczak analyses" video.
@kennycook8691 I've had actually false accusations made against me, LOL. Had to leave a job when I was harassed and the harasser reported me. This is normal in the US.
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It was false, or you chose not to believe it? Did you read the article?
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@StandUp6710 Certainly not. Have you read the complaint? A defamation case is about one thing only, whether speech or writing is false. Every defamation case chips away at First Amendment freedom of speech. Every speech or written expression is assumed to be First Amendment protected and must be proved to be otherwise. A defamation case is not about who was worse. It's not about persons, but only about texts. If you thought something else was at issue, then Depp's ruse is working.
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This has nothing to do with high nose or elitist eye-rolling, George. This woman is flat-out misrepresenting this case. Sheer demagoguery, and a great example of American woman-on-woman hate.
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@marshalljulie3676 When people snap out of it, they'll be embarrassed they fell for the latest moral panic/Official Enemy/ritual stoning. Well, some will be.
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Is abuse the weapon of choice of most men?
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@kennycook8691 The rapid substitution of one moral panic/scapegoat for another is the story here. The US can't seem to stop itself anymore.
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This case is being misrepresented here and giving rise to a new moral panic. The rapid substitution of one moral panic for another is the story here. The US can't seem to stop itself anymore. Mob mentalities are normal, thinking for yourself is deviant.
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"Men are victims, too!" -- Brian Laundrie "It was my fault." -- Gabby Petito, said to police
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She's flat-out misrepresenting this case. I can see through it, because I'm a lawyer. This is more titillation, and a new focus for the ever-growing mob mentalities in the US. Worry about that.
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The bigger picture is Mob Psychology, Episode 23.
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@StandUp6710 Slogans can really get you to divert your attention, huh? The victimhood sweepstakes are legit? There is a Good Guy and a Bad Guy in this movie? And if we could only beat down the Bad Guy, society could purify itself and get back on the correct path . . . The bad guy is the one who keeps suing.
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Totally wrong, to boot. A defamation case is harder to prove in the US. Speech is presumed First Amendment protected, and proving that it should not be means overcoming that presumption.
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"And besides, she had it coming!!!" 🤣
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"She asked for it." "She had it coming."
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The burden of proof is on the party bringing a defamation case.
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He's not on trial. He's pursuing his second defamation case after losing a stronger one.
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Except that Depp already lost a defamation case in UK, and was not fired from anything based on the article at issue here. So, anyone telling you this is "just like" that is fabricating. Typical, it's what the media does.
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@tsensuke5259 It MEANS that he was not fired due to Heard, but due to losing that case against Heard -- Depp had a stronger case in UK, and defamation is easier to prove in UK, not harder, because there is no First Amendment protection in UK. When Depp v. Heard comes up, reason flies out the door, and for what?
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@tsensuke5259 And AMERICAN ones are fair? Police, too. Their testimony is rock solid. /s In any event, my point stands: he lost work because he lost a case, not because of the article at issue here. (Did you even read it?) Not because of he said she said, but because the judge said. Reason out the window . . .
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@tsensuke5259 No I'm not. The fact that movie studios treated it as significant is the point. Sorry you are so enthralled by this hysteria that you still cannot grasp that.
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@tsensuke5259 Being removed from a job based on mere accusation, and losing a role after a trial has taken place are not the same. If you don't see that, some emotion or other is interrupting your thought process. Where is your proof Depp's suit was lost due to corruption? It was HIS suit, he brought it and he could have withdrawn it if he thought the court was biased.
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@tsensuke5259 You still don't get the point. Not my problem. "Poor poor multimillionaire victim Johnny, everyone so unfair, and SO hard to fight back. That Bad Woman and that Bad Court and those Bad Movie Studios, we'll show 'em!!! Well, one out of three at least." That's what makes sense to you.
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@tsensuke5259 If you bring a lawsuit, and you refuse to withdraw that lawsuit or settle that lawsuit, or you fail to appeal or fail to win an appeal, are third parties entitled to take cognizance of the fact that you lost? If you whine to them that IT WAS UNFAIR!!! and your fans all agree, should they just believe you? This guy's fans treat him like a child, not a grown man.
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@tsensuke5259 Why does it bother you?
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@tsensuke5259 Because I'm making entirely different points in the two, and long posts are uninviting to read.
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@tsensuke5259 Sure I did. First, if one post is shadowed, the other may get through. Second, you refused to acknowledge the point, that losing a job over a bare accusation and losing a job after losing a court case YOU decided to pursue, are not comparable. Keep it up, and let everyone see the irrationality on full display. No problem for me.
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@tsensuke5259 It's a fact that the verdict exists. Lots of verdicts are incorrect. People in business rely on them anyway, and cannot be considered blameworthy for doing so absent some truly remarkable circumstances which you do not find here.
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@tsensuke5259 Tell me, are you as concerned for Julian Assange?
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@tsensuke5259 Sorry, forgot to block you. I didn't have you pegged as a reader, no.
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@FaranFronczakTV Oh, and here we thought you were fair and balanced!
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@FaranFronczakTV Of course not. The issue in a defamation case is not who was the worse person, the issue is whether the speech or writing is defamatory, and hence should not have First Amendment protection. The case isn't balanced at all, it is clearly not defamation, even if the person claiming abuse was abusive as well, even more abusive -- and even if some expert claims they were "the primary abuser," whatever that's supposed to mean. So the strategy has to be to get the jury to focus on something other than the law and the facts. They can't return a verdict for the plaintiff if they are objective. But the real reason Depp brought it was revenge. He can claim anything he wants about Heard, if he truly believed it in his drugged state. It's not perjury. The real tipoff is your glee at describing the petition to get Heard cancelled from her film. Tremendous stand against cancel culture, huh? (Notice that Galloway listeners spotted it. They are not stupid.) Shame on you for promoting hate on a woman 23 years younger than her ex. She has a lot longer to live with this.
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@FaranFronczakTV BTW, in the UK, a defamation case is easier to prove than in the US. In the US, it is presumed that an article in a newspaper is First Amendment protected freedom of speech/freedom of the press. The plaintiff has a heavy burden of proof to show that it's not protected. Otherwise, he cannot recover. If your opinion is something different, then it's wrong.
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Biden and the Clintons put an end to MeToo during the 2020 primaries. This isn't their divorce case, which ended a long time ago, and Depp is using this claim to replay it. Every defamation case chips away at First Amendment freedom of speech. Even creeps, even criminals have that.
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This case is being misrepresented and giving rise to a new moral panic. The rapid substitution of one moral panic for another is the story here. The US can't seem to stop itself anymore. Mob mentalities are normal, thinking for yourself is deviant.
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Precisely. She is a demagogue here, however. That never goes out of style.
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@FaranFronczakTV If you read the complaint, the answer, the actual article at issue, and a basic summary of defamation law, such as is available on Cornell's website, I'll faint. You're reporting on the reaction to the trial, not the trial. Consult Mattias Desmet on that issue, sadly.
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@marshalljulie3676 Sure is.
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