Comments by "L.W. Paradis" (@l.w.paradis2108) on "Forbes Breaking News"
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The Supreme Court always publishes the briefs, so I can tell you what they are arguing about: there is a long line of precedent that permits consideration of race in addition to a number of other factors, and previous Courts have ruled that a limited use of race in that way was legal as long as things like legacy admissions weighed so strongly against all non-Europeans. Seth Waxman, who was Solicitor General and is in front of the Court all the time, is arguing that the criteria for using race in a limited way was clearly met by Harvard's admissions policy. Well, now you can guess what the other side is arguing: they believe the line of precedent that allows using race should be overturned. The lead attorney for the other side is a U of Chicago and Cambridge (UK -- that Cambridge) grad who once considered becoming an astrophysicist. This gives you an idea of the brainpower applied to this case.
What is at stake also is that Harvard can forgo federal funding. It's a private school, and can continue its admissions policies exactly as they are, as long as it accepts no federal funds. Its policies are not the type that would easily trigger scrutiny under other federal laws. So, in the end, it's about the money.
The big question is why Harvard grads are so heavily advantaged for the rest of their lives. Chief Justice Roberts was a Harvard undergrad and Harvard Law graduate. He really did do well in school his whole life, however, and he wasn't admitted as a legacy. He actually worked in a steel mill one summer.
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@Baratheon. What do you think constitutes "perjury?" I mean, under the law, not on social media. Have you ever read any cases that were prosecuted?
No one is ever convicted on the basis of statements that are vague, or lacking in comprehensiveness, or open to more than one reasonable interpretation, or where faulty memory could be a factor -- for example, if she tweeted all the time, and the vast majority of her tweets were about pets or recipes, and she forgot about the handful of offensive ones, or didn't appreciate that they were offensive.
Stuff like that isn't a crime, it's a disqualification from having a serious job -- or at least it used to be.
What "projection" are you talking about? Where did you pick that up from? Freud was the gaslighter extraordinaire.
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@christines8529 No, Harvard DOES benefit from federal funds, even though it's a private school, which is why it must also obey federal anti-discrimination laws. That's why this lawsuit made it all the way to the Supreme Court. It is rich enough to finance all of its needy students and to extricate itself from depending on public money. But that is surprisingly hard to do, and complicated, so it won't. Besides, the money is green.
What I really think is that these elitist institutions shouldn't have the stranglehold on society and politics that they do. I think their legacy pools and "special development" pools are just as discriminatory, or more, than anything else they do. If they want to be modified four-year country clubs for the Jared Kushners (or Chelsea Clintons) of the world, bless them, they can rely on First Amendment freedom of association and go their merry way. But then they go on to affect the lives of the rest of us, and of the rest of the people on this planet -- and they do it for their benefit, on our dime.
A really interesting read was the letter Harvard's President wrote when it was revealed just how much Harvard was mixed up with Jeffrey Epstein. Am I changing the subject? No. To me, this is the heart of the matter. We argue about who is qualified to be admitted to Harvard -- and I say, who cares? Why are they then "qualified" to control the lives of the rest of us? They clearly are not. That's what I care about. There is no way to make Harvard admissions fair. There are too many qualified people vying for too few seats, and too many people who want to game the system, and can. Why do so many people apply? Because it really is as close to a guarantee of success in life as you can possibly find at age 18. But why is it?
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@robertmadison1205 Yes and no, because under the Constitution, all federal statutes are the law of the land, but all federal statutes have to have some provision in the Constitution that gives Congress the power to legislate on behalf of everyone, and preempt laws to the contrary that might exist in the states. And then of course federal laws have to be consistent with the Bill of Rights, etc. The U of North Carolina part of the case does implicate the Constitution in a way that Harvard doesn't, because it's a state school. No state can discriminate against people in any way that the Court has held to be unconstitutional. Right now, Harvard can do pretty much what it wants in deciding which of its applicants to admit, but not on our dime. Congress could probably change that, too, by invoking the 14th Amendment, but don't hold your breath! :/
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@jeremiahdavis360 It's impossible to give a single figure on scores needed for admission, since admission isn't based on scores. First of all, all applications, regardless of race, are divided into legacies and "special development," before any other factors come into play. "Special development" is supposed to be for people like Olympic athletes or gifted musicians, or winners of major science or mathematics competitions, and thus based on merit, but these can also be people whose parents gave a million dollars to Harvard. You can buy your way into a private school, hon. Not directly, of course, because they could still reject you, but if you want a real leg up, the right color is green.
We fight over crumbs. Passionately, over crumbs.
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@lucibeach2697 Not FDA approval under age 16. Emergency Use Authorization, which requires signing pages of consent forms and acknowledging that you have read and understood the current fact sheet. Then the forms state that after you have read everything, you still have the option to decline the vaccine and your health care will be unaffected. Also, EUA means no access to meaningful compensation for most people in case of injury; in particular, no access to the 1986 fund set up for that purpose.
My mother was studying medicine, with an interest in vaccines, when the Nazis bombed the city she was in and everything had to close. I have a doctoral level degree.
You can imagine that I abhor fearmongering, and politicizing health care decisions. Yes, without all that, things would have gone more smoothly, I agree.
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