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  575.  @ashleecantu6470  Well, what makes you so sure I'm not one of those people who cannot be vaccinated at this time? I am not afraid of the unvaccinated at all. I take for granted that I have to limit where I go and observe the rules that were in place before any vaccine was available, and take tests -- which I am glad to do, and which vaccinated people should be doing as well, given the growing body of evidence that the protection OF OTHERS (as distinct from protection of vaccinated persons themselves) that vaccines afford is not extremely robust and wanes rapidly. But I make no demands. This is just my view. The vaccinated have excellent, though not perfect, protection against death or hospitalization due to COVID for at least six months, which should persuade most people to do it. I don't expect others to go get vaccinated for me, especially not with these vaccines. I categorically oppose coercive tactics. Kyle himself took Johnson and Johnson. Check how good the protection of others works with that one. In France, the CGT (hard left union) organized a demonstration of vaccinated health care workers in support of their unvaccinated colleagues and against mandates. A mainstream publication, L'Obs, carried the video and all the comments praised the CGT for their humanity. That's called civilization. The Scandinavian countries do not mandate vaccination, either, or recommend it for the very young. There is a reason why they all have longer life expectancies and healthy kids, while we had record drug overdose deaths last year. I don't know about this other stuff you're saying. What does this have to do with my post? Who and what do I have to "call out?" Are you all right? Don't you see this IS NOT WORKING? It reminds me of the hatred and panic that swirled around HIV.
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  583. I listen to podcasts from other countries about these vaccines, and the most intelligent critique I heard was logically structured very much like what you just said. Here was what one professor of medicine said, in a society where vaccines are generally much better accepted: First of all, speak to your doctor about whether you should be vaccinated. Too much of what has been presented to the public is advertising, not information. Second, all of these vaccines have a significant risk profile. Be aware of that. Our annual flu shots are far less risky. Third, as for the data, people under 50 in good health are not at high risk of death or disability from COVID. People 70 and over, really, REALLY are. Ages 50 to 70 is a highly individual determination. Most probably do have the risk that makes vaccination highly advisable. Fourth, never discount the psychological costs of not being vaccinated. If you are truly afraid of contracting COVID, if the past 12-14 months of isolation have taken a toll on you, this is a very good reason to get vaccinated. Prolonged stress and isolation, poor sleep, etc., is harmful to health. This should be part of any risk assessment. Fifth, at this point we hope the vaccine, if administered rapidly, will help keep the virus from mutating into a variant that the vaccine is ineffective against. We hope, but do not and cannot know. A yearly shot is within the realm of possibility. Finally, we also have reasonable hope that the vaccine will protect others, not just the recipient. Unfortunately, we don't know that yet, either, due to the problem of vaccinated asymptomatic carriers. We don't have enough data to assess that risk at present.
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