Comments by "JLH" (@Kyarrix) on "What's Going On With Jordan Peterson?" video.

Come on, don't be assholes. Don't make jokes. I'm at the end of the video and you're making jokes about her showing up in a bikini and announcing that he's dead and that's not funny. Jordan Peterson and his daughter are grifters and terrible people but still, don't celebrate their misfortunes. Let's at least try to be better than that.
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@willyoung859 They do matter. Did you see me say that he's a grifter and a terrible person? That's not the point. Do you think it's right to be as ugly as we can be? How are we different then? We can say he's a terrible person, that he's responsible for a lot of pain and misery. We can and should hold him responsible for that. That's a more serious and real consequence than making ugly jokes that celebrate misfortune. Do you disagree?
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@GodEnderX You are going through a lot of hoops there to make a point that I don't think is relevant to what I said. You said you don't like my analogy but I didn't make one. Perhaps it was a typo or you meant something else? Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease COPD is not "aids" of the lungs. If someone you are answering doesn't know something basic like this they can look it up. I'm very sorry about your father, COPD is difficult for the person suffering and for their family. Your bender analogy doesn't apply to the situation. Should people have compassion for you? Of course they should. But we have to avoid confusing compassion and excusing bad behavior. If you went on a drug bender that would harm you. Peterson has harmed other people, not just himself. What he has done is far worse than going on a bender. If you went on a drug bender because you were upset about your father being sick, I would have compassion for your situation but it would not excuse actions and bad behavior. For your analogy to apply you would have to do something bad to others while on that bender, let's say you robbed a lot of people to get money for the drugs. I would still have compassion for you and I would want to understand what caused you to do the things that you did. That would have bearing on the punishment. When someone commits a crime their state of mind is relevant. But again, it isn't the point I was making. I did not say that we should excuse Jordan Peterson for the damaging things he has done. I did not say we should forgive him for the harm he has caused. I think you misunderstood something but I understand why. When I say that the jokes are ugly and should not be made I am not forgiving Peterson nor am I excusing any of the things he has done simply because he is sick. We can have compassion for his situation without in any way viewing him as likable or forgiving the harm he has caused to others. Getting sick doesn't erase that or negate it. The jokes are wrong because they are ugly. When we mock people this way, the way Michael Brooks frequently does, it taps into the ugliness that lives in us. He does it to encourage the audience to laugh at someone else's expense. This is actually a complicated thing to talk about, it involves psychology and the nature of who we are as people. There is an effect that happens when you laugh at someone else's misfortune again and again and that effect is detrimental to us. When you are led to view others as not worthy of any human compassion, as "other" over time you become more and more callous. The endpoint of that is obvious. That kind of mocking laughter is contagious, it invites the audience to push their better nature away and have a communal sneer at the person who is in that moment the enemy. I abhor Jordan Peterson. He is intellectually dishonest, a grifter and has caused a lot of harm. The fact that he is sick doesn't change any of that. I put time and effort into convincing people not to buy his books or watch his videos. I have conversations with people about him and I try to explain how he uses psychology and twists it to support his ideology. I lost a good friend to Jordan Peterson's way of thinking. Trust me, I am not excusing or forgiving anything. Having compassion for someone as a human being, saying that ugly "humor" harms all of us is not forgiving or excusing. We harm ourselves when we give in to the urge to degrade others.
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@frenchtoasty17 Generally we don't. Would you read my longer response if you want a thorough answer? Thanks!
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