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I'm a retired physicist-engineer. I'm a lifelong learner and I've done industrial design of electronics and taught electronics in the classroom setting to novice would-be technicians. I've mastered countless other physical and mental skills as well, from music to medical technician. I recall when I was four or five wanting to be a scientist when I barely knew what to call it. Everything I saw I remembered and it all looked obvious to me. When I went to school I always seemed to learn everything shown to me first time, and never had to be shown again. This while I saw other kids struggling around me. I noted that while I always believed I could learn anything, and that excited me, that they didn't believe that about themselves, and were consequently uninterested, except to get teachers and parents off their backs. This continued into high school and so on. There were always a small number for whom science was all they ever wanted to do, and the rest who never seemed to know what they wanted to do in life except find a way to keep people in authority from bothering them to learn and find a way to get rich quick so they didn't have to learn anything. Scientists are people who would do science even if they couldn't find a way to be paid for it. They approach everything in life as an experiment and it fascinates them. They can't picture doing without that in their life, even if they had to do it for free. The rest seem to live on the outside of things, and they can't figure out what to do with themselves and try to find happiness with formulaic antidotes to boredom, sports, marriage, family, parties, and other distractions that bored people like me. And if you try to teach them things they can't remember them for more than five minutes. These are the people who are always calling their friends up to "fix" their computer when they screw it up. These are the folks who get gypped by their mechanic because they never bothered to find out how engines work or what is what in gasoline vehicles. They seem quite sad to me, really, they have NO confidence that they can learn, and that lack dates back to before they even went to school. I'm not sure if it comes from the way their parents talked to them, or didn't, or the way they first apprehended the tiniest lessons in the way the world works not long after birth. My impression is that it is a fool's errand to try to teach these folks, they will not learn, they have a mental block against it, and no strategy, no new teaching medium, or any such new method will enable them to believe they can learn. And of course people lose interest in things that totally stymie them. I am beginning to believe this may be inherited, and that it may have something to do with the complement of genes and their behaviors which we inherited from our forebears, and the distribution of some very special genetic features in a small percentage of the population. Whatever it is, it is inherited unevenly throughout the human population, and there appears to be some Gaussian distribution of these abilities in our population genome that will ever prevent many people from achieving that kind of facility with ideas. As an inveterate teacher I hate that thought, but as I grow older it seems more and more to be the obvious reason why we struggle in vain to teach many or most students.
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Well, we DO convert mass to energy, a VERY VERY TINY amount of mass results in the kcalories we burn. But the vast majority of mass loss, of course, is respiration and perspiration. Remember, E=mc^2 applies to chemical reactions as well, when the bonding energy is released. Remember, a kcalorie is 4186.8 Joules, and dividing by c^2 (3 x 10^8)^2, that means it is released from 0.00000000000004652 kg or 0.00000000004652 gm or 4.652 x 10^-11 gm. So if you burn 500 kcalories in the night, you have converted 2.326 x 10^-9 gms to pure energy!! You're sort of like a STAR!!
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Ford Windsor SVT
It's all about the criminal and secretly sinful envy of most people, and the ridiculous belief that they had better protect richness in the absurd hope that someday, somehow, they too might become rich, when that is just as pathetic as a 5'5" black kid who wants to be an NBA star so he ignores his schoolwork to shoot hoops.
Inherent in the psyche of the American poor which is MOST people, after being deprived and and demeaned by the rich, is the desire for payback, to then BE the one who steps on faces, instead of the one who gets stepped on. They don't realize that a better society and a more honorable and more realistic motivation is to make a society where NOBODY gets stepped on.
Until most Americans outgrow and out-learn their desperate desire to become rich and their ridiculous belief that they might, or that this is a worthwhile goal, they will never give up their fear of Socialism.
It's like the terror that fundies have constantly that the bible might all be lies and that there is no god, jesus, or hebbin. It's like being told all your life that when you turn 18 you'll get a million dollars, only to find it was a joke.
Americans are gullible. They let people take things from them and then dream of being those people, rather than punishing those people.
They don't realize, under a Socialism that THEY MAKE THEMSELVES, that they can all have a home, free and clear, that nobody can ever evict them from by LAW, and be guaranteed a wage if they accept any job their state offers them at their level of education, be guaranteed free education that pays a worker's wage for success, healthcare, disability, retirement, and be guaranteed all the public services they can think of.
And they can get all this but ONLY IF they simply make hourly wage disparity ILLEGAL, make rent/mortgage ILLEGAL, prohibit ALL profit and speculation, make ALL schemes to gain wealth without working ILLEGAL, confiscate all the wealth of the rich, make the People's State the owner of ALL factories and businesses, and require the rich to get honest work OR NOT EAT!
The rich steal half of what everyone makes. Look it up!! And most of them do NO appreciable productive work for it. The houses they rent to the rest of us, or make mortgage profit income by owning/selling, is where MOST ALL the wealth disparity between rich and poor COMES FROM!!
Two children born in the same hospital moments apart. One already OWNS the other's share of the earth and will steal half of what he makes all his life. LET THIS BE BANNED!!! NO MORE inheritance except personal property.
NO one gets to own any but the home they live in!!! Homes of the deceased can go to inheritors ONLY if they give up another home to get them!! The homes of the dead are given by government fiat to all new adult citizens!! This sensible birthright must become LAW!!
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Robert Zraick Retooling and reinfrastructure costs. If we were buying our energy supply now, we would buy solar and wind for local use close to home. The current cost of wind is actually cheaper than coal and solar cheaper than gas and nuclear. We would not have to pay for the grid, the millions of tons of wire, the steel towers and transformer cores, the trillions of dollars for nuclear reactors, mining, processing and clean up, the coal fired generators, the mines and mining equipment, the trucks, the trains to haul it, the wear on the highway system from heavy trucking, but now we have to replace all that with solar panels and thermosolar generators and wind turbines situated locally and without much grid to shuttle power around, we merely will have to move a small percentage of electricity around to meet shortages due to wind or sun decreases. And we also have to super insulate our homes and buildings, instead of having built them properly in the first place. Add earth source geothermal with surface earth insulation and that's housing. Then eliminate transport of things grown locally, only ship stuff that has to be grown or made elsewhere, and do it by slow wind powered trains with sails, and restructure cities to have work near the workers, and stop lighting all the unoccupied streets at night, and the earth will recover. THAT'S why we don;t have it, and how we will now have to.
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Your little PhD, hilarious, in computer science, BARELY admits you to Science, that's an engineering math technology degree!!! In your curriculum you have learned NOTHING of the principles of research Science. I have degrees in Physics and Biophysics. I learned HOW the truth is gleaned. You learned methods in application development, NOT research.
It USED to be that Science didn't work on peer-reviewed consensus, and we found that in those days of the Wild Wild West of premodern Science, that we were getting NO progress when every PhD was his own king and he could publish just any prejudiced opinion on an issue and stay respected!! Science was an opinionated junk pile, almost totally unusable!!
So after hundreds of embarrassments that made the public doubt the value of Science and scientists altogether, we instituted peer-review and consensus. Medicine did the same, instead of each MD being their own king, able to use any method they thought up, regardless of proven efficacy, peer-reviewed journals and Standard of Care rules were implemented through medical societies and courts of law and medical insurance and state licensing, and BY GOD, PEOPLE STOPPED DYING AS MUCH!!
Climate Science that lead us to legitimate worry over climate is NOT based on fucking computer models!!! This is a public pop notion that has been proliferated by climate deniers paid for by big oil and the coal industry!!
Our worry over global warming has come from past records of temperature collected by thousands of scientists worldwide!! That and solar output measurements, and the ice core studies, have proved that CO2 down through the long history of this planet has been the chief controlling variable for earth's temperature, since we found the solar output increases only VERY slowly over DEEP time as it consumes its fuel. This is now settled solar physics and geophysics from the time of Svante Arrhenius in the 19th century. It has been RE-viewed an RE-proven MANY times since. The calculation can be done on a fucking napkin and it successfully predicts ALL past warming and cooling of the earth when blended with Milankovich orbital cycles of the ice ages.
Your "computer model" bullshit is ONLY used to try to predict FAR results of this warming so we have some idea of how long it will be before OUR DEMISE!!! You see, we do not need to save the earth, rather the earth will kill US off and then take a few thousand years to recover its homeostasis and then toddle off toward its next ice age in 25 to 30 thousand years. Our industrial fossil phase and death will be a mere hiccup in this short little time period!
Yes, obviously you DO need additional coursework because you don't even understand what I have told you here and corrected you about. You're another CLOWN who learned a little engineering, imagine you're a scientist, but have compartmentalized your knowledge and opinions well separate and due to your reading the wrong bumper sticker garbage, and your emotional, right-wing political, and religious delusions, have decided to dispense with actual peer-reviewed consensus Science and go for your stupid uninformed uneducated opinions!! You won't even ask a real climate scientist to explain anything to you, you're going to stick with uneducated webshites and vloggers with similar political stupidities.
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jtkent28 If people are just too fat, then stop hating, stop judging, and decide to save the climate with nice comfortable light enclosed recumbent electric bikes for them, which use 1/100th the energy to get them where they need to go, and then they won't need the gas guzzlers. Put pedals in them too and they would have a chance at rehab-ing themselves. Bikes are NOT an all or nothing proposition, if they were it would look just like it does now, climate change, till we all croak. People will never go for it until you do, even if it kills everybody, because biking just looks too impossible to them. Look at the older people, they could never do it, but the more people with bikes of all kinds the more we'll build separate bikeways for them, like in Europe.
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All you "smell" is your own head full of shit. I'm a physicist, I don't need to WANT to be smart, I **AM** fucking smart!! They didn't "supposedly" take those pictures, they REALLY DID TAKE THOSE PICTURES!! There are no stars for the same reason that when you try to take a picture of stars at night with your cellphone, they DON'T SHOW UP!! Why? Your eyes can see them because your eyes accommodate because of your iris. It opens to let your pupil get bigger. But if you try to look at the stars behind a street light, you can't see them!! Why? Because your iris shrinks down so you aren't blinded by the street light!! BOTH kinds of cameras, eyes included, cannot see the same light level at the same time, they have to adjust or be adjusted. When you open the iris on a camera lens it can see the stars just fine, if it isn't swamped out by the sun, which is THREE TIMES as bright on the moon, and the reflection OF the moon's surface itself, which is QUITE gray-white reflective. If you put a tubular black shroud over the front of the lens to block the sun and reflected light, and opened up the iris of the camera, you could see the stars fine, BUT THEY WEREN'T THERE TO LOOK AT THE STARS, so they didn't have the equipment for that, AND they had only two or three settings of exposure suited to bright daylight moon photography, and NONE of those were an open iris or long exposure setting!! They had to shove the exposure lever with their spacesuit gloved hands!! They had to see stars all the way to the moon because they used a stellar sextant to set their gyroscopes. But on the moon, forget about it!! Now do you want to be a moron some more, or would you like the ask a real physicist some honest questions so you can learn this stuff and not be a dumbass?
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No, actually, you don't. We've had climate scientists for well over a century, and they were responsible for the excellent state of weather prediction, understanding the climate of the deep past, and predicting future trends. We would need them every bit as much without global warming. These folks occupy endowed chairs at all the major universities. They make the same money no matter what they discover. Climate change is just another pain in the ass for them, to have to conference about it, and give talks, and travel all the time, they would rather stay home and do research on what comes in from the field from lesser degreed folks.
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Rush Limbaugh motivated to tell the truth? You're an idiot. If he told the carefully researched truth he would lose his whole audience. They wouldn't even UNDERSTAND him anymore, they're far too stupid!
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You guys have been slowly brainwashed. Forty years ago nobody thought twice of a 20-something year-old guy having sex with a 16 year old girl. My parents, and a lot of post WW-II couples like them were 4-7 years apart in age and obviously had a sexual relationship before marriage. My mother was married at 18. The notion of not being able to consent to sex was never applied to anyone older than 13 or 14 till only about 25 or 30 years ago. To this day kids consent to sex with other kids and nobody thinks twice about it, it's considered cute in most circles. It's the plot of cutesy movies. Did you ever stop and think that a girl can't be any more or worse or differently fucked by an old penis than by one her age? Did you ever stop and think that her boyfriend her age is every bit if not more likely to take some kind of advantage of her than an older guy? This whole age thing about sex has only emerged in the last couple decades, and yet people your age somehow imagine it has always been that way and that guys only a decade older than a teenage girl have always been considered creeping lechers with respect to having sex with them. It was not so, and much of this has come from the insane sex scandals of the 90's, like the McMartin preschool trial, where it was finally revealed that it seemed no children had been harmed, their memories of abuse had been implanted by partisan antisexual psychologists with a weird antisex bent, and that it was all baloney, there was no basement where satanic rituals were carried out, and the entire thing was impossible! The trials from that dragged on, and some people never noticed how it ended, but it left a certain age range of people believing there were pedophiles under the bed and in the woodwork when nobody used to think such things and fundamentalists christians tried to capitalize on it like crazy. Looking at pictures of other crimes in progress isn't a crime, so why is it different with child porn? Actual pedophiles, fixated delusionals slobbering for children are as rare as hens teeth. You young folks need to research how things got this way and ask some hard questions once in a while. The way you're just so sure a certain age makes sex sinful when you call yourselves liberal makes people my age look at you like you're brainwashed and deluded. Consider that the sexual repression of children should be stopped as it has been for adults. Consider whether actual harm occurs due to sex, or isn't it actually from the repression of sex and the kind of shame you are complicit with brainwashing young people with who might hear you say the stupid things you say? THINK once in a while!!
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KiinGDolo Cops are taught, trained, encouraged that once they have to shoot they should shoot to kill until the threat is ended. They are literally taught to empty the clip. Brown attacked a police officer. Officers are going to side with each other because they know the danger out there. If a pragmatic racism emerges from that danger on the part of police, blacks themselves are to blame for it. It is NOT the merely imaginary danger born of irrational racism.
Blacks in this case are merely revisiting the OJ Simpson Denial problem. Blacks are mistaking the fact of economic unfairness with an imagined privileged on their part to rob and steal and bully under some kind of misguided "Robin Hood" ethic in which they defend their black thugs and criminals as their culture heroes. "Anything to get back at the man" is what you will hear them say to one another. Just like Michael Brown's father the other night, "Burn the bitch down!"
I personally hope that we start shooting looters and rioters again, because that is what finally ended a long summer of this in Detroit in the 60's. After the riots all the merchants and whites moved out and poor blacks had to take a bus 5 miles to buy a loaf of bread! Rioting destroys your own neighborhood. When all the whites leave you're going to have to find your own stores and cops, and they'll have to all be black because the whites won't live around thugs anymore. Your cutting your own throats. You're a failed state in miniature, like Somalia.
In my family's store, if someone came in and strong arm robbed us of a box of cigars and pushed my parents to the floor, and then we had shot them dead, we'd be heroes on the news. But because it was a white cop who had to do it unknowingly when the thug thought he was getting caught for it and attacked the cop, you'll say the ni__er's innocent and the cop a murderer. That's the delusion of the criminal mentality in an impoverished minority.
We used to have Irish white trash who would behave that way, until the cops started shooting them. We Irish were criminals and sided with other Irish against the cops. Now the cops are Irish. Irish can blend in when they are finally assimilated into the wealth of America. But YOU have a skin color identifier, so you got a BIG problem. Better start acting nice or this hatred for blacks will go on, and it will go on for as long as you keep producing it by your criminal attitudes and behavior. And your color will be how you are marked for hatred and fear. Don't pretend you are just being profiled when you can't or won't police yourselves and behave.
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Happer disagrees with the scientific consensus on climate change, stating that “Some small fraction of the 1° C warming during the past two centuries must have been due to increasing CO2, which is indeed a greenhouse gas”, but argues that “most of the warming has probably been due to natural causes.”[11] Michael Oppenheimer said that Happer’s claims are “simply not true” and that the preponderance of evidence and majority of expert opinion points to a strong anthropogenic influence on rising global temperatures.[12] Climate Science Watch published a point-by-point rebuttal to one of Happer’s articles.[13] A petition that he coauthored to change the official position of the American Physical Society to a version that raised doubts about global warming was overwhelmingly rejected by the APS Council.[14] Happer has no formal training as a climate scientist.[5]
In May 2013, Happer and Harrison Schmitt published an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal, "In Defense of Carbon Dioxide," in which they termed elevated atmospheric CO2 "a boon to plant life."[15] It was described by Ryan Chittum in the Columbia Journalism Review as "shameful, even for the dismal standards" of the editorial page.[16]
In 2014, Happer said that the "demonization of carbon dioxide is just like the demonization of the poor Jews under Hitler."[17][18][19]
In December 2015, Happer was targeted in a sting operation by the environmental activist group Greenpeace. Posing as consultants for a Middle Eastern oil and gas company, they asked Happer to write a report touting the benefits of rising carbon emissions. Happer asked for the fee from this work to be donated to the "objective evidence" climate-change organization CO2 Coalition, which suggested that he contact the Donors Trust to keep the source of the funds secret as requested by Greenpeace. Hiding the sources of funding in this way is lawful under US law. Happer further acknowledged that his report would probably not pass peer-review with a scientific journal.[20]
----- Wikipedia (WIlliam Happer)
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Daniel Butler I'm not psychotic, you're a religiously brainwashed moron. They aren't persons, they aren't even "they's". They have no awareness, nobody is lost, nobody is afraid, nobody is sad when they are aborted except YOU! So just mind your own fucking business, An animal reacting to stimulus is not personhood, anymore than a bug twitching needs our special protection. A higher animal once born has much more awareness, something a fetus does NOT have. We award a right to life to born babies only because we don't want their parents deciding when they are two or three months developed in personhood that they're inconvenient and they don't want them anymore. People have memories at several months, they recall them as impressions and learned behaviors, the foundation of what becomes the person, they learned something about how life works and they are beginning to tell themselves their own life story. Fetuses don't do that or else we'd remember it. We were all once fetuses, and when we all understand that we were not aware then, that is how we know that fetuses do not exist as persons. Your notion of an education must be brainwashing with your particular religious delusion, because it isn't any REAL education. A REAL education is what I have and you obviously don't!!
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Okoye Ahmose It DOES happen today, it's ALWAYS happening, but 1) it happens and has always happened VERY VERY SLOWLY, taking tens of thousands of years, and 2) we didn't used to move around much, people who move around a lot over many generations defeat the local trend and average out any directions of change so that nothing happens, and 3) sunblock and folic acid and shelter and clothing change sun exposures. Also, the blue eye and blond hair genes originated by mutation around the Black Sea 25,000 years ago. They became advantageous BECAUSE of the lower sunlight at those latitudes, they enabled more vitamin D to be produced. The sun didn't "change" skin, the skin is always mutating in all directions, but this mutation became extremely advantageous for reproduction because it prevented Rickets, so people with it were more able to reproduce successfully than people with darker skin in higher latitudes, and slowly came to dominate the population.
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@relentless shill stomper
The second laws says all isolated systems increase in entropy. Entropy is the loss of usefulness of its energy caused by dispersal. But that doesn't have to be everywhere in the system. the earth, for example, has Life, which is ANTI-entropic, and stores structure and energy. But the sun, the other part of the earth-sun system has monstrous energy and monstrous entropy that keeps the net entropy positive. The earth is not a pressurized container, it is an open gravitational atmosphere, where lower molecules are pressed down by not only gravity but the weight of the molecules above them weighing down on them. Your problem is you didn't read the whole book. Dumb Donald Deniers never do. All flerfers, creationists, and nutball conspiritards are uneducated and cherry-pick statements to try to survive argument, and fail.
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@arunavaghatak8614
No, that never happened, it's a right-wing myth. USSR, China, even Cuba and especially N. Korea were NEVER EVER socialisms. Socialism doesn't permit a rich ruling class, and all those nations had a rich ruling class. Also, Socialism is democratic, and they were not. Corrupt fascists claim they are socialist to confuse their people into not having another revolution, making them think that this kind of fascism is all they would get. Oldest trick in the book, used by despots for thousands of years. They claim they corrected everything when they came to power, and they simply make anyone who disagrees disappear.
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Well, you must understand, Hilary won the popular vote, and she was only a few thousand votes from winning each of the electoral swing states Biden has won now. And lastly, people thought Trump would drain the swamp, instead of BEING the swamp, which some didn't realize till after four years of his insanity. The American people were deceived because they didn't realize that it was republicans blocking progressive measures and budgeting that was causing all their problems in the first place, and they should never have believed such a crook as Trump, a liar to beat all liars. It wasn't Hilary, all the propaganda against her was republican dishonesty, same as their dishonesty now.
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+Android3008 Paranoid crap. If Trump's people rigged it, it's a cinch he didn't know shit about it, too complicated for him to understand.
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+Curtis butler I'm a farm boy, Missouri corn and hog farmer, formerly. Got educated and now I'm a retired physicist. All the hicks I knew in Misery were Democrats. They knew that the right wing caters to the rich and dupes the stupid, religious and uneducated. They knew that republicans had never done shit for farmers and never would. That's because republicans only cater to the stupid and uneducated when they want to get elected, so they use rural bigotry and religion as the engine to get that vote. The exit pollsters aren't stupid. They know that the rural demographic has to be counted to get a reliable estimate of the electorate. The problem is the stupid and religious got snookered again. They always let their ignorance, dumb-religion and bigotry overwhelm their good sense. In a couple years when they figure out Trump's not going to help them, they might wise up again, but their turn to the left will be lackluster and against their ignorant jingoistic provincial know-nothing countrified tendencies. They are tribal, they fear outsiders. The problem with rurals are that they ARE rurals, and out of touch with mainstream America. All the brown faces scare them. All they know is crime on TV, never happened much out here except Jimmy Joe-Bob who cut up his mother, dontcha know. In four years they'll be disgusted again, and Trumpster will be out of a job, having done lots of damage to the programs they counted on. The problem with rurals is they get fooled every time. Democrats look all big city to them, and demos hate rurals because they are backward and religious, so they won't do shit for them either. If rurals got rid of the fucking bible and recognized socialism as pro-farm and pro-poor people again, like they did earlier in the last century, the demos would wake up and cater to them as a demographic. But as long as they are backward and stupid, the republicans will use them and the demos will ignore them. And the stupidest and most backward will have another 4 years worth of their aging generation die off by the next election, and another 4 years of millennial style left-socialist young will join the voter rolls, and so the GOP will get to die its final horrible death, their legacy having been to fuck everything up one more time in their last hoorah. History will laugh at them.
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Vladimir Komarov Problem partly solved, electric cars use a quarter or less the energy to go the same distance as the equivalent in fossil fuel. And if they are charged by wind, solar, or hydro or wave or tide, or geothermal, then they don't pollute at all. PV panels use toxic metals, but that doesn't mean their use is toxic or that their manufacture is. It COULD be if done irresponsibly, but great care has been employed to address those concerns. Nuclear can be safe, but it is far more costly when safe than other renewable sources, because of the costs of the safety, and they still wind up having to store the hot waste, they do NOT magically send it to the earth's core where it doesn't get into the water, that would take a shaft 35 miles deep. Project MoHo only sent one shaft down about 18 miles, and it melted. And knowing business, they will cut corners. The earth's core is molten partly because of radioactive decay, but mostly because it was hot to begin with and the radiative surface of the planet is bombarded by solar radiation. Sending the waste to the earth's mantle is a good idea, but it would be as expensive and potentially dangerous as shooting it into space. AND the handling to perform that is even more costly and dangerous. The numbers have proved over and over that renewables are cheaper.
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***** Well, both are true. A dictatorship of a very few does tend to merely perpetuate itself, but like any monarchy it CAN also be MORE benign than the current capitalist dictatorship of the wealthy. The Marxist idea was to have a dictatorship of the workers, the proletariat, so the rich could never flourish again and retake the society backwards to capitalist feudalism. But people ARE brainwashed under capitalism to imagine it is doing them good, when it isn't, and so at some point they all either have to learn better, which might happen only after a long time, and after many millions had suffered and died, or else institute it by brute force of a willing determined minority/plurality sooner and disable the brainwashing mechanisms long enough so that people can see the difference. Most change IS in fact brought about not by democracy, but by angry minorities. This is just an extension of that. The worst that could happen is they become your new keepers, and the rich already are, so what's to lose?
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Christopher Willis As a "future nuclear engineer" I think you have inevitable blinders on. I'm a physicist, when I got out of school the nuclear industry approached me about running one of their reactors. I declined. All my fellow physics graduates declined. We saw the writing on the wall even then, and that was the '80's.
The IPCC is desperate to save the world. That's nice, but these guys are NOT engineers, they don't seem to realize that it would take 10 times the current cement production of the USA to build the 10,000 reactors they would like, and that we would never beat climate change that way, it would take too long. Reactors take too long to build and commission and the process cannot be short-cutted without dangers. And we don't have a tenth the educated talent to run them. It would take over a generation to produce that many nuclear competent scientists, and the high salaries of said experts will bankrupt the process of trying to produce cheap competitive power.
Wind and solar are cheaper than any nuclear so far conceived, and are ready to be expanded on a war-time-like footing right now, and today!
While nuclear is fascinating, I think you may be committing your career to a dead horse.
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@TheRybka30
Sorry, kid, but you're full of shit. I'm a graduate physicist and Evolutionary geneticist. There is NO "ether", which IS what the MM was devised to test, and it resulted in NO detection of any "ether", or any rotation in space whatsoever. And yes, freshman and sophomore physics students use pools of flotation fluids all the time in optics lab, which is one of my specialties. There are a few mercury tables left, but the mercury is too hazardous to breathe for long, so they are enclosed in plastic "water bed" containers and the marble optical table is floating on top them. Without mercury we just use floats under the optical table in water. And yes, we spent all day there. Our lab periods were 4-6 hours long. It is repeated by ALL undergraduate physics students. You didn't know or understand the depth of the physics curriculum, and you believed some "flat earth" bullshit about "the ether". Congrats on your ignorance.
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@jdeluca6181
No, thieves are individuals who steal from individuals. The Social Contract says we the People can charge you for defending you and your property any amount that we democratically see fit, since we are applying the same laws to ourselves as well. When you used our monetary system to make money from the rest of us, you signed onto the Social Contract. The People are NOT "bums", they are those who defend you and protect you from otherwise being raided, stolen from, your wife and daughters raped and you enslaved or killed. Without our "biggest gang" you might well be enslaved and raped by warlords. The law of the jungle is in effect anywhere outside the Social Contract. Trying to live outside it is suicide, you'd be a target every moment of your short remaining survival. You would be living in a Darwinian hellscape. So, clown, do as you're told by the People. You could belong to so much more vicious a gang than our democracy, you might have had to become an abject slave just to survive in a warlord monarchy for instance. Be glad we rescued you and pay your dues.
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First problem with thorium is that it is not that much more available than uranium, and when they run through the world's uranium, they will still have to do the job of making renewables work, which is the only hope for the long run for humanity. Second problem is that ANY nuclear is 4-5 times more expensive per kW-hr than renewables and their cost per kW-hr is dropping every day! If we are to spend our money on something, let it be renewables and simply use govt mandate to crank up production of solar panels and wind turbines to a war-time kind of footing. Third, the time required to build the 30 thousand some reactors we would need to eliminate carbon fueled power, it is estimated, would take 60 years to develop it, train enough people to run them, which is a HUGE current deficit, and then build and start the reactors. Too late to prevent the worst of global warming or keep us from climate tipping points. In the same time or much LESS we could build 4 times the renewables, which is a technology we know how to use and is far cheaper. As for Australia, you have more solar than does the sahara!!
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A fetus is NOT a person, it does NOT THINK, and that is the core of being a person! Things that think are persons, things that do not think are PROPERTY, the woman's property which she can dispose of. Forcing a woman to remain pregnant is organ enslavement, same as if you forced her to give blood or donate an organ or be forced to be a blood surrogate to someone with kidney failure. The zygote/embryo/fetus is a human LARVA, it is alive, it is human, it is growing, but it is NOT A PERSON and HAS NO RIGHTS!! A fetus is NOT a "baby" or a "pre-born child"! No, Science does NOT say that human "Life" begins at conception, it says it is cellular life begins, with a small "l", and not human experienced Life with a large "L". it is unfortunate that English doesn't use different words for the two. The reason the Holocaust was evil is that it tortured and killed PERSONS WHO THINK!!! Abortions are NOT comparable in any way to a Holocaust. We kill cellular life all the time, we kill germs and animals to eat. But the only human Life is that of a thinker. not something which has never had a single thought. You know fetuses do not think, your body was a fetus, and if you claimed to remember being that fetus, people would ridicule you and you would lose credibility. Everybody KNOWS they did not think as a fetus. Anyone who tries to enslave a woman to a pregnancy should be taken out and beaten to death the same as someone who captures women and keeps them enslaved in a cage in their basement!! You religious SHIT are NOT going to win this one, despite all your efforts and your subtle tricks to deceive us and twist logic with words. The belief that a "soul" enters the conceptus at conception is a religious SUPERSTITION that is NOT supported by anything BUT that rank unfounded delusion!! And people who no longer believe such religious trash should NOT be oppressed by it.
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evoljellyfish 00
You're an uneducated idiot. You have NO capacity to even determine that I'm a physicist or not!! Your notion of scientists is someone in a suit you see on TV. Someone who doesn't curse, that's because he's ON TV, dumbass! In real life, physicists curse as much as anyone else. But you're an idiot, you don't know that. Yes, you ARE REQUIRED to obey every command of a law enforcement officer, DUMBSHIT!! If you imagine this diminishes you, then you're insecure, immature, and HAVE A SMALL PENIS!! You have NO idea what Newton's Third Law is! You're a shitty little criminal problem child, and you'll be dead soon!!
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Jeremy Stone
The gospels, which purport to tell the story of jesus and his teachings ARE ANONYMOUS, we do NOT know who wrote them, they don't say, not a one of them. Their names were put on them by the catholic church 300 years later to make fools think the disciples wrote them, they did not, they all would have been dead by then, because the first gospel, called "mark", tells a story of the temple having been destroyed, which did not happen till 70 AD!! The rest that copied "mark" were written later, and "john" not till the 2nd century!! So we DO NOT KNOW what jesus said, and the gospel writers didn't either, and paul never met him. It's all just old rumor, bent by the will of those liars who never knew him.
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JombieMann It doesn't much matter, that amount from solar and wind is all that we will have. The quickest cheapest way to add to it at that point is STILL solar and wind. So they had better get to agitating for it.
You "not thinking" that solar and wind will ever make up a large proportion of generating capacity is just you "not thinking". The numbers work, I'm a physicist, I have napkined this problem many times.
And no, it's NOT too expensive and unpredictable. It's CHEAPER than nuclear and anything else PER WATT, and that's what we need to measure. And solar and wind are distributed, the wind and sun don't fail everywhere at once, if the equipment failed it can be replaced in a day, and unlike nuclear we don't need whole backup plants for when they go down unexpectedly for weeks or months, which THEY DO!!
Wind and solar are ALREADY making up 50% of the power in Germany. And they are continuing to build!
You are being overly PESSIMISTIC, and for no good reason. You have some sort of layman's "impression" that solar and wind are "weak" or "unreliable", when NONE of the data shows that. Just because they don't involve centralized powerful machines throbbing and endangering their workers and all nearby, you assume that something that runs quietly could never do the job because, in effect: "It doesn't make enough noise", or some such bullshit. Typical science illiterate.
Go buy a $100 panel that makes like 100 Watts. Put it on your roof or carport, or your RV. See how much you can run off it, then buy a few more, and a few more, and soon you have a roof full of them and they are making 3000 Watts for you, and you put a few batteries in your garage and that runs most of your stuff? Now, what were you saying? This sort of math sneaks up on you, but it is inexorable. You and 100 of your neighbors invest in a half MegaWatt wind turbine, just a small one. You can each get 5000 Watts when the wind blows. You hook that to your batteries in your garage with a $200 inverter. It meets all your needs and pays for itself in eight MONTHS!! Inexorable.
It's hard to admit and realize that we have been cheated for power by big players for a hundred years, but that IS what happened. Nobody knew how to do it but them, so we assumed it was hard. It isn't. This always happens with new technology, those in the know rip everybody else off for a while, till the competition develops. Solar and wind IS the competition, and now they are eating the big players' lunch!
And now with the new technology and education about electricity, we can do it ourselves and get rid of the big players.
The NIMBYs and BANANAs (not in my back yard & build absolutely nothing anywhere near anything) will simply find the power turned off till they comply with the rest of us. When they find they can't get it any other way they will freak out and beg to join up.
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JombieMann Everything you just said is a distortion of the truth being promoted by fossil fuel interests. I'm a physicist and I have bothered to do the calculation. If we cover every roof in the US with photovoltaic panels, we can meet 90% of our current energy usage in homes and businesses. Manufacturing takes a bit more, but not that much. Wind turbines in the midwest now sell power at under 3.5 cents/kW-hr. That IS cheaper than power from coal. We could ALSO meet all our needs with only wind power, it is that abundant. Both of these pay for themselves in under a year and provide energy for 40 years. The very small amount of power we need at night can be more than adequately supplied by a rack of storage batteries in each garage, or stored on board your electric car batteries. Your notion of "hundreds of square miles" is totally erroneous. Nuclear would not work because we would need to build over 10,000 nuclear plants to meet our needs, and we don't even have enough cement for the concrete to do so. It would require 5-10 times our current production of cement. Energy companies now installing wind and solar have found that instead of making the grid less stable it makes it MORE stable, because there are no massive breakdowns in such highly distributed equipment. In other words, the so-called "base load problem" is a fossil fuel company myth. The costs of power from renewables FIGURES IN the costs of building, in fact that is MOST of the cost, since they consume no fuel at costs. There are solar farms now producing power at 5.6 cents/kW-hr, which is below that of methane-fired plants. Only laymen and amateurs at this make the mistake of thinking they need "great big plants" to supply our needs. The thorium reactor in the '50's was a money-pit and the govt ditched it as too expensive. NOBODY has ever made a nuclear plant that produced truly cheap power, the unforeseen cost overruns eat them alive, which is why none of the big money now is even thinking of nuclear, they are all buying solar and wind as fast as they can.
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nulI No, you have wind, which is almost a perfect complement, since it blows more at night and lower sun conditions. Nuclear is relatively safe, that's not my objection. It's that it is always much more expensive per Watt generated, than are renewables, which are NOW cheaper and becoming ever yet cheaper by the year and the expansion of their production. Nuclear will not ever keep up with that. Never. All the studies on final costs of nuclear reactors to date show they were horribly expensive by the Watt, when all costs and downage were factored in. Solar and wind do not GO down spectacularly, a few panels might test bad and have to be replaced or their wiring fixed, one in a hundred turbines might need service, but none of these amount to a significant percentage of power production. They are predictable, and so need less backing up than major sized plants of any ilk.
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Daniel Butler Yes, human animals learn in the womb, by reflex, as all fetuses of all species do. But they do not KNOW anything they "learned" however, or else we'd remember it now as adults. NOBODY remembers it, not just me. You don't either, and you really don't LIKE that, do you punk?And the rest of your name-calling reveals your immaturity. As for webmd articles, they will repeat anything, even if the study was methodologically flawed and not even peer-reviewed. They are just a website, not doctors or researchers, they repeat professionals a lot, but other jokers as well. Nor are "Today" or "babycenter" reputable sources for science, they are pop entertainment rags. As for you being an atheist, I doubt it, you're far too stupid. And stupid atheists can be culturally brainwashed with christian values and misinformation. And boy you are.
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Several things that are NEVER brought up about heroin/opioids: Opioid addiction is NOT inherently harmful to the body. One could be administered opiods their entire life and it wouldn't affect their health or longevity if they used sterile needles and got proper nutrition and housing. This is because the brain has natural receptors for it, your body makes it too. Secondly, opioids are SO UNBELIEVABLY CHEAP to make that the cost of an addicts daily fix, even someone heavily addicted, is mere pennies. If the government produced and supplied it to addicts, the price of inferior heroin on the street would totally collapse, and with it, organized crime! It is prosecution ALONE that makes it pricey!! If you want Afghan farmers to raise something else, MAKE OPIOIDS LEGAL AND CHEAP!! If you want to defeat ISIS make opioids LEGAL AND CHEAP!! AFTER you meet the addict's needs for them, and for nutrition and housing, THEN is the time to talk about weening them off it it very slowly and psychological treatment programs. ALL heroin crime is CAUSED by the war on drugs. When you get your car broken into and your shit stolen, it is because heroin is expensive BECAUSE IT IS ILLEGAL ONLY!! If it wasn't, your car and house would never get broken into!!
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+1984vsAk47 There was no "resurrection". It was all made-up baloney. No historians record such an event, only two guys who wrote the so-called "gospels"ever said anything about it, Jesus supposedly preached to multitudes, yet nobody ever wrote any of it down except for those two guys, who wouldn't even sign their name to their books so we could know who they were. The nation of Israel was set up by the UN partly because of guilt everyone felt about the Jews after world war two, and because fundy American christians WANTED to fulfill and thus promote their prophesy of the "end times", not because it was "destined" to happen. The Romans, who kept positively ANAL records of everyone they killed, gleefully listing them and their crimes, had never even heard of any Jesus, Pontius Pilate wasn't even IN Judea in those particular years, and the named Pharisees who supposedly tried Jesus were not even all living in those years. The NT is sloppy fake history by a group trying to promote its new religion, nothing more.
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Ezequiel Djeredjian It resembles talking to creationists or other denialists and conspiracy paranoids who don't believe that anyone can really learn all this stuff, because they don't think THEY can learn. Their belief they can't learn is a denialism of the most difficult sort to contradict, because they intentionally try to make it true so that they don't have to otherwise conclude that they are just being stupid or lazy, which they actually are not, they are just emotionally hamstrung. The students I have had who didn't believe they could learn usually dropped out before they could be reasoned with, but the one I know that stuck around did so because he needed to invest in and grow his loser status to a self-fulfilling prophesy, becoming the class clown or class loser. Kind of pitiful, really. This mental block is so severe that it is as though they have a voice yelling in their ear at every moment screaming "loser, failure, loser failure" so that they can barely hear anything you're saying. It is a form of stifled panic attack when confronted about something they should know. I recommend some form of mild sedation for such people to quiet their demons yelling in their ear telling them they're stupid. I've had some luck with taking such a person out of the classroom setting, which is especially anxiety producing to some, and tutor them privately. But their own self-doubts often return when they try to then learn more on their own, and they can become addicted to your tutoring and imagine they can't perform without being led by the hand. It's a severe form of insecurity. What I have always trusted is that if I could get past their insecurity, that their hobby interest might take over and circumvent their insecurity. This is true of electronics and computer science and science in general.
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Since one of the main reasons the earth is warm is the sun, the primordial heat and radiologic heating are less than all of it, and it is as I said, radiologic and primordial and solar, a mix. The core retains the heat it has and produces as much because of solar heating. Your support for nuclear power is just more equivocational nonsense, every government accounting has shown over and over that the renewables are cheaper. A good use for nuclear waste would be radiothermal generators for remote applications, but that would not meet our needs, And producing much more waste is practically and politically problematic. Nobody wants it. Betting on fusion and ignoring renewables is a bad bet, because we have NO idea how soon fusion can be made practical. What you said about renewables any physicist can tell you are outright lies. I don't know whom you're lying for, but it almost seems like you're paid, since your "info" runs so counter to accepted numbers. Wind and solar are near perfect complements. An example is the Colorado Power wind projects, which they thought would be unreliable and which instead proved so complementary among their several sites that they have forgone two new coal-fired plants in favor of three more wind farms. They were shocked, and Europeans were also surprised to find how when the sun isn't shining the wind is blowing and that it supplanted not merely supplemental power, but is starting to be seen as fine for baseload as well. You ignore the fact that 1/4 of all energy use is for heating, and that near surface geothermal can be used to completely replace residential and structural heating merely by burying pipes 20 feet down and circulating water to bring living spaces to near comfortable ambience, and by superinsulatng the surrounding earth as a heat storage causing thermoclines in the earth;s surface to rise and warm buildings, and that this can be done everywhere but the arctic. Your grasp of hydro potential is ridiculous, we could be controlling where all our rain goes, but we let it run down the river to the ocean, untapped, and your understanding of the immense power available of waves and tides is pitiful, purely amateurish. Tell me how much energy is required to move a cubic meter of water up and down a meter and then do the math.. You're clearly not a physicist as I am, and the fact that you're guessing from YouTube level prejudices and pop notions of science and political hobby horses is obvious and to me disgusting. Every time anyone competent has done the math they have always been amazed at what the human species has thus far failed to utilize in favor of whatever they're burning at the moment. Burning is dramatic, humans have always liked it, but that affinity for flaming glowing things does not translate into science. So far most of what humanity has done is the obvious, and ignored the subtle gigantic power they could be using. We were much smarter before coal and oil, those things have made us stupid and we have to unlearn that. When we run out of oil and atmosphere to burn coal with, we will have to.
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it'sMe TheHerpes
Laurence is just about the smartest guy I know! I'm a physicist!! You're too stupid to EVER undestand what **I** know! "Autism"? You're a fucking nutball!! You're a fucking idiot!! Atheism isn't "funded" by any shadowy group or persons. Atheists HATE ALL RELIGIONS!! There just aren't many other religions AROUND in the US that are causing trouble socially and politically!! Conventions are paid for by members. We're NOT an organization, we don't BELIEVE ANYTHING!! Trying to organize atheists would be like trying to HERD CATS!! It's very simple. Your god is a stupid paranoid belief!! Scientists DON'T LIKE beliefs, beliefs DECEIVE people. Scientists ACCEPT only proven evidenced Science!! If that evidence ever changed, WE would change our understanding!! Your god is a paranoid hypothesis that is UNFALSIFIABLE!! And THAT means it is NOT Science and cannot BE distinguished from NONSENSE!! Your god CANNOT BE distinguished properly from what DOES NOT EVEN EXIST!! From what is no more than an untruth!! We have been bashing you for centuries. And we will keep it up till we DESTROY you! In the past, being an admitted atheist could get you damaged in all sorts of ways, loss of your job, your home, your life, the church owned all the universities. In Darwin's time the ONLY degree offered was in Divinity, even though he wanted just to be a Naturalist!! We have succeeded in DESTROYING religion's hegemony over education and scholarship!! Churches now are optional forms of idiocy that are permitted, but NOT permitted in schools!! Yes, if you are stupid enough to believe in a god, you will NEVER BE regarded as more than an incompletely educated scientist.
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it'sMe TheHerpes
No, Galileo was NOT killed, he was subjected to house arrest till he died. No, the church neither discovered nor promoted ANY scientific truth except to repeat Aristotle's mistakes for 700 years or more. The "holy church" were bullshit artists who engineered most of the wars. And listen, if there are any real satanists out there, nobody has ever told us, and we WOULD know! And no, when despots use atheism to force their people to worship THEM instead, that is NOT atheism!! That's Stalinism or Maoism or Pol Pot-ism, or Kim-ism, but it isn't atheism! Atheists believe in Democracy and the Socialism that is its inevitable result. Whether christians stay stupid or grow up and leave christianity behind, they will hate islam, and we will defeat it. Arabs and middle eastern groups are shitty military leaders, they fight among themselves and get their ass kicked every time by the west. They're too paranoid of each other to achieve anything, because they are not democratic. And your imaginary stupidity that atheists don't care about one another is sheer nonsense. We're the kind of people who can call each other and have a fighting force of 100 together in a half hour with lots of firepower. Atheists have no one else to call on, so our loyalty to the cause is enormous! How do you think we all show up on video pages to destroy you with our comments?
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It's a lot like flat-eartherism or any nutbar conspiracy. They can't tell who the enemy is. They aren't getting what they want, they've been fired, evicted, foreclosed, divorced, lost kids, living in a van, and they still don't have any idea who did it to them. They should follow their money when it left them, who did it go to, it went to the rich!! They should have long ago figured out that socialism would put an end to the fascism of the rich enslaving them, but they were so brainwashed with capitalism and that "socialism doesn't work" jazz promulgated by rich-owned media that they can't even think outside the box they were brainwashed into. And so they lash out and try to punish the rich by running back and forth between parties each election, when the two parties are nearly the same!! They are all run by the rich!! Democrats try harder to help the disenfranchised, but the GOP blocks everything the Left tries to do in Congress for the specific purpose of making the Left look like Leftism can't work, and then they deceive the public into giving them another chance to rob us!! And here we are again. "Won't get fooled again" my ass! It IS stupidity.
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Gavin Rae You seem to think physicists are "book worms" or ivory tower isolates who don't deal with the real world. I'm a retired physicist-engineer, I've designed real things you have actually probably used.
I grew up in the rural midwest, graduated high school with an enormous score on the ACT (yes, genius level) and ETS tests and numerous other honors, including Latin and Greek, and worked 3.5 years as an EMT in a small midwestern hospital where I had to learn to do practically anything and DID. I became a hog farmer in Missouri and raised corn and soy beans, and I have rebuilt a large number of farm and commercial engines and equipment, I weld and have used a complete machine shop.
And THEN I went back to school to finish my degrees!! I have designed and built two working solar-heated homes in Missouri, winters of -25F to 105F. I also designed the software that troubleshoots the Montana Power Company half million volt twin three phase line across Montana to Coalstrip. I've TAUGHT electronics to technicians. So you imagine there's something I don't know how to do? You would be an idiot to chance it!! I have good REASON for my pride and self-confidence, AND my ego is FULLY justified in my self-aggrandisement!!
There is nothing wrong with what the TED guy said, except he neglected to tell the whole story. Solar and Wind are now cheaper, and shall continue to be ever more so. That's cheaper PER WATT amortized over the life of the equipment!!
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070911021302 When someone hits you you can respond with deadly force, the officer had no spray, nor taser, and when someone tries to get your gun you can shoot him dead, dead, dead to prevent even the slightest chance he will be successful. Also, when an officer is permitted to shoot, he is also trained to literally empty the clip or revolver, rather than permit the threat to attack again after he is wounded. In the case of a much larger person like Brown, he was certainly justified, and officer does not have to use the same force or less force on an "unarmed" assailant. just whatever force is required to stop him. In the heat of battle, discharging your weapon for as long as the assailant is standing and conscious is considered reasonable, only shooting him if he is prone and unmoving is considered to be questionable. Officers have been killed by perps wounded several times who had a concealed gun and were laying on the ground..
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+david bradt You clearly have NO grasp of CO2 solubility in the oceans. When the oceans warm, even a degree, massive amounts of CO2 are released. A increasing concentration of CO2 from fossil fuels in the atmosphere simultaneously puts more CO2 into the ocean, requiring it to change equilibrium with the atmosphere in its release of CO2. The respective solubilities of CO2 in water and concentration in air reach a balance. Unfortunately that balance is at a higher concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere, which begins warming the earth more. When that happens the CO2 in the oceans will get cooked out of it, and that CO2 will warm the earth even more, and this vicious cycle can keep going till the heat has risen as far as it can rise as the earth emits more heat to space and gains equilibrium again with the sun heating it, but that temperature may finally be one that is inimical to most life on earth. Get it now??? CO2 is BOTH a cause AND a result, that is how a runaway green house effect works!!
Now!: In the glaciations it was different, the Milankovich Orbital Cycle increased temperature slightly, then the CO2 came out of the oceans and increased the temperature 10 TIMES as much. When a slight cooling in the Cycle occurred, the CO2 went back in the oceans and the earth cooled. That was the ice age. There was a Cycle of several major ice ages caused this way. When the Orbital Cycle warmed the earth, the warmth preceded the release of CO2 from the oceans. Then the CO2 caused much greater warming. This made it look like the warming had preceded the CO2 by 800 years. Actually it just took time to cook that much CO2 out of the oceans to start the runaway process and the warming was gradual, as orbital changes are. But MOST (90%) of the warming was caused by CO2!!
And NOW, we have jumped the Milankovch Cycle by releasing fossil CO2 on our own, and started the same vicious cycle of runaway global warming, and it can't get better for thousands of years unless we could magically pull all of it back out of the air!! You see, whereas water vapor, the OTHER greenhouse gas, falls out of the air in two WEEKS, CO2 lasts for thousands of years! And we have only just begun to see the temperature rise from the CO2 which we've already put into the atmosphere!! Even if we stopped putting CO2 in the air RIGHT NOW, the warming from it would continue for several hundred years!! And we don't really know how high it will go!!
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David McFarland Something being "safer" can mean that it very seldom goes bad or does harm, but that doesn't consider that one time we lose a city to radiation. I care about people and their future. The simple existence of any centralized corporately owned access to energy is anti-democratic, makes people less free and independent agents of their own destiny, and binds them to slave for the profit of a rich elite. The rich want the rest of us to have to buy power solely from them, and finally renewables are a way to eliminate their greed for money and control. All profit is inherently corrupt, because the safeguards that would be there with strict government control and ownership by the people is absent and the motivation is NOT for the good of all. Trusting them with nukes is just one step too far. Restrictions on nuclear are THERE FOR A REASON, called Chernobyl, Three Mile Island, and Fukushima!! Latest figures on the new PV plant in Dubai is they are coming in at 5.6 cents per kW-hr. The same can be done here. That is between 4 and 7 cents less than ANY nuclear anyone has ever seen, and nuclear gets more expensive by the say as renewable costs continue to drop like a rock. Wind is 3.2 cents per kW-hr in Texas, beating out even coal! It's well worth it to see the richies go have to suck on it!! They half destroyed the world so far, and now they want the other half. Well we're going to put them out of business!!!
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@nicholasconder4703
I didn't have to. There are now a legion of PhD historians and honest bible scholars who are realizing that none of the jesus story checks out with any known history of the time. The disciples suspiciously disappear from all history right after the execution. The mother Mary disappears. And there are NO death notices or family remembrances of any of these supposedly illustrious men. The 30 plus Greek and Roman scholars in Jerusalem from 25-35 CE precisely to study Jewish cults never even mentioned jesus' name. Later Roman writers right-wing christians love to trot out are reporting hearsay from later believers, they don't document anything. The gospels written after 70 CE were ANONYMOUS, and they set the jesus story 50 years previous in history. Both were obviously done to prevent any witnesses or the authors from being asked anything, since people on average lived to 48 back then. The josephus blurb was forged into Eusebius' copy of the Antiquities by Eusebius himself, this bishop of Caesarea was known as the "dishonest cleric", because he heavily promoted lying for the faith! His copy came from Origen's library which he inherited, and Origen said that Josephus never even mentioned jesus. And, this testamonium flavianun, so-called, was a crappy fit for the passages before and after it, and looks inserted. Pilate wrote nothing about jesus in his memoirs and letters, which were voluminous. What looks like happened was a cabal of Greek-speaking rabbis tried to hijack the archangel jesus of paul's visions and dreams ONLY, and set him on earth as the son of god, since after the destruction of the temple the jews thought god had died or gone way. Then they executed him to prevent later deviation from the myth. Can't leave a son of god loose running around. They needed a new god to worship who was more portable, what's better for that than a dead son of god? So christianty is all a myth, literally Judaism 2.0.
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Todd, people who have never experienced an alcohol blackout, being "blind drunk", cannot grasp how it makes you totally distorted and irrational. I accidentally did this when I was 19 at a caving convention, unaware of how much alcohol I had drunk due to hidden 200 proof alcohol in a fruit punch. I gave a long totally nonsensical speech, recorded on tape by a friend of mine, which I did not remember at all, and then puked in a campfire nearly putting it out, falling into the fire, then being pulled from the fire with a burned coat front, thank god for my coat, and I woke up mid-morning with the worst headache of my life, I well might have died of alcohol poisoning, I was very lucky!! I never drank more than two beers a month the rest of my life, I'm now 74 y/o. When my friend played the tape for me, I was unable to even recognize myself in that irrational spiel, and it made no sense at all. Beyond a certain blood concentration, alcohol doesn't merely suppress reasoning, but totally fragments personality and makes memory formation impossible! I doubt very much whether she even remembers saying anything she said in that state, and in effect, it was not even her!! Oh she was guilty for sure, but that is precisely why one doesn't drink when they might ever drive a car!! Alcohol destroys rationality beyond a certain blood level and totally randomizes reason to nonsense!!
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No, honey, it isn't, you're just an uneducated moron. All bodies of water are very slightly curved, you can see it in a swimming pool with an accurate laser micrometer. Use a level or a transit and look out over the ocean from a mountain top, the horizon is lower than the level line of sight, and lower the higher you see it from. That's because you're looking down over the curve of the sphere you're standing on. If the earth was flat, the horizon would rise to the level line of sight. It doesn't. You can use the horizon drop to measure the size of the globe. Ships go over the curve and disappear bottom first. You think zooming in will "bring back the bottom of the ship"? No, it won't, that was a LIE by Eric Dubay. He obviously never really tried it, he's too bust buttfucking little Thai boys. You have allowed the liars who want your money to confuse you.
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@nemeart
Gravitational orbit is composed of two energies, potential and kinetic. A circle is also an ellipse. When the orbital velocity matches the required velocity for that orbital radius, its path is a circle, The circular orbital velocity is given by v = SQRT (GM/r^2). If you have too much orbital velocity for the orbital distance from the center of the earth, the extra energy climbs the gravitational "hill" and that energy is stored in increased radius, and gravitational energy, for half the orbit, and when it falls down again it changes to the extra speed again, resulting in an ellipse with the earth at one focus. In an elliptical orbit the two energies, potential and kinetic, keep exchanging energies even though the total of the two is a constant, as in a circular orbit. When satellites or manned craft are launched, an extra engine burn is often done to circularize the orbit. In a circular orbit apogee and perigee are the same, but in an elliptical orbit, the apogee is greater than the perigee. Kinetic energy is KE = mv^2/2 and PE is mgr, where r is the radius of the orbit, and m is the objects mass, and g is the force of gravity. To know the apogee height, just calculate the increase in r from the energy equations.
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@johnwest3287
And I AM a physicist. And Milankovich, our orbit cycle that controls sunlight on earth, says we should be cooling slightly, preparatory for an ice age in 25,000 years, but we're warming, and the CO2 is going waay up instead of slightly down, as Milankovich says we should. Now Milankovich has been dead on about every ice age. Now where could that CO2 be coming from, I wonder? Not volcanoes, that CO2 is tiny compared to the release of fossil fuels. And the isotope balance of carbon in the air is changing, favoring C12, OLD carbon, meaning fossil carbon. The sun hasn't changed its output more than half a percent in 60 years, just the normal 11 year sunspot cycle, not enough to cause this amount of warming. The calculation is easy to do on a napkin. There's no cause for the warming in the earth's thermal budget but us monkeys. We're doing it, and we have NO idea where the increasing temps will stop. The problem with CO2 is that it KEEPS trapping MORE of the sun's heat, JUST BY BEING THERE!! Even if we stopped making it today, the temps would continue to rise for a century or more, till it reaches equilibrium with our radiation into space, and we don't know what temp that could be at, or whether it will be habitable..Static electricity has no power, only voltage. It can't do anything. The resistance of what produces it is too high internally. Tesla was WRONG. We physicists figured all that out 80 years ago. And no, pyramids were built by hand labor, though some cultures used batteries for plating metals.They didn't understand why it worked, the process was discovered by accident. And yes, real physicists cuss a blue streak at morons who won't learn real Science. I'll say whatever I want, and I welcome you do the same.
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@zdaniel
Oh don't be stupid, I know where all those nations are, I've probably been to more of them than YOU have! But if Mexico let them in, then Mexico is responsible for them, and speaking the same language they are more suited to help them anyway. We are an attractive nuisance in the region because of our wealth. But we still cannot just open our borders, sorry. Get other Spanish speaking nations in central and south America to take them in, like Europe took in muslim refugees. Spread around in those nations they wouldn't be much of a burden, and would fit right in and probably do those nations a lot of good. Sorry, but we cannot simply open the border so these folks can come to America and get rich. And that really IS the motivation, isnt it? Of course it is, nobody chooses a nation whose language you don't speak when fleeing something dangerous, that's even MORE dangerous. When you flee a gang or abusive spouse you don't have to run away 1500 miles to escape, get real, this is an excuse to try to become movie stars like they think all Americans are. It's a stupid third world pipe dream. But we cannot at this time accommodate them, sorry. The US can send monetary aid to these refugees to be administered by the UN or such. But a huge influx of immigrants right now would destabilize our politics and get Trump re-elected next time or something worse, and next time he will want to shoot all immigrants crossing into the US. US politics right now are on a knife edge, and immigrants could push it over the cliff. Immigrants are as much a danger to the US and its freedoms right now as are the evil ones these folks are fleeing. Buen dia.
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A A
Scales became a little fluffy on a few therapod dinos as a birth defect. Those few kept their eggs warm a little bit better, so their offspring flourished a little more than others and were also born with the defect. The feathers on the wings only began to get longer when another birth defect caused longer wings on the hands. These dinos still had front claws, as did the first birds, like Archaeopteryx. The ones with longer feathers on their claws could run up a dead inclined tree faster, and survived better, and their offspring then had that defect and also fared better, and yet more "defects" like this occurred which accidentally made their carriers more able to run up trees or glide a little ways when they fell out of trees and thus slow their fall. These "defects" that were features just kept happening, and if there hadn't been trees to run up and jump out of the defectives probably would have faded out of existence, but trees gave them an advantage. And so their offspring came to outnumber the "normals", who got eaten. You see, duplication keeps making mistakes, most are horrible and lethal, but only a very very few are DOOZIES! Ones that make their offspring come to outnumber all the normals and take over the population in many generations. Feathers grow from scales, go look up the origin of feathers and scales, and you will find we know a hell of a lot about scales and how they mistakenly change into fluffy feathers.
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The only seven validated epistles of paul tell us nothing of any jesus on earth, but only the archangel yeshua from the books of zachariah and daniel whose scripture and paul's own visions and dreams were his only sources. Paul never told of any jesus on earth, no ministry, no miracles, no disciples, no teachings, no family origin, and he told only of this archangel yeshua's crucifixion in heaven beneath the moon by satan and his demons, his rise to the right hand of god, and his wish to be worshipped by drinking of wine as his blood, and bread as his flesh, and he called it a "lord's supper", NOT a last supper, and no disciples mentioned or present. Paul's cult dates back to the Greek and Turkish yeshua cult before even 1 AD.
The later "gospel" writers obviously hijacked paul's heavenly jesus and embellished it with a jesus set on earth in 1 AD and died of crucifixion 30-33 AD which they thought far enough back in time to avoid any investigation. They wrote the "gospels" anonymously, also to avoid investigation, and in about 75 AD they released the first of several tries over a couple decades to pass off this forgery, Why? Why to try to revive judaism after the destruction of the temple, which most jews thought was the death or at least the dethroning of yahweh. These writers were likely educated Greek speaking rabbis who wanted to save their phony baloney jobs in the diaspora. So they needed a NEW god, a yahweh version 2 to promote to the scattered jews. So -- son of yahweh!!
The testamoium flavianum is widely understood by scholars to be a forgery by Eusebius in the third century, since Eusebius inherited it from Origen, and Origen said it contained no mention of jesus. Also, it is sandwiched between two accounts of troubles that made it stand out like Liberace at a funeral!! Also copies of Josephus have been found without it! And the reference to james the brother of jesus did not use the word for familial brother, but for admirer, which was a way of saying he was a christian.
And tacitus would only have known what christians who had heard the gospel narrative had told him.
So, you have skipped over a lot of detail to make it seem plausible that a jesus on earth existed!! We wonder now about YOUR bias!! And modern bible scholars are all at least friendly to an earthly hoax jesus, or are determined believers. NOT the way one does technical History!!
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@ocean3638
He DIDN'T win, he was elected by the electoral college defect. He LOST that election by 4 million votes. He lost 2020 by 7 million votes. In every other civilized country he wouldn't have won because they're fully democratic and elect by vote of the People. Republicans are evil and greedy, and they project cravenly that others are surely greedy just like they are, when we're NOT!. Republicans ARE business and all that is anti-democratic about business. The rich do not work. You're LYING!! Democrats are democratic and serve the will of the People, which is RIGHT and they have all righteousness. Republicans wish to deprive others for their own wealth, so they are WRONG!!! Just like Eisenhower killed Hitler, Eisenhower was RIGHT, and Hitler was WRONG!! The People, by WIDE margins in every poll, want a Social Democracy, if not Socialism!! They finally figured out your lies by fact-checking you on the internet, and they figured out that what republicans want is feudalism again, with the rich ruling. Republicans don't become politicians for the noble aim of defending democracy, rather they are paid by the rich to hinder and defeat democracy! They aren't actually even Americans!! They are aristocrats, like the "nobles" of Europe who enslaved the populace. They are trying to fuck with voting rights now because they KNOW that now that the People KNOW who they are, they will NEVER win an election EVER AGAIN!! The popular vote and popular opinion ABOUT the rich has been trending ever more that way for over 30 YEARS!!
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Vivian C
Well that's not the point, the point is that he had entirely the wrong attitude and a criminal attitude toward duly appointed law enforcement and the people who voted for that system to be the way it is, namely, all the rest of us!! When an officer is totally by himself out in the country, he is NOT required to risk his life in ANY way, if we required THAT, then NOBODY would do the job, and we would not be protected. Thus it should be known BY EVERYONE, that if you attack an officer where he has no help, that he WILL AND SHOULD SHOOT YOU DOWN LIKE A DOG IN HE DIRT!!! Once an officer begins an arrest process, he is NOT ALLOWED TO RELENT, he must bring you in, in cuffs OR KILL YOU!! THAT IS HIS JOB!! IF you make him KILL you, then YOU DESERVE IT COMPLETELY!!! We don't seem to have Civics classes anymore where this is taught, possibly explaining the number of idiot young people who have these ridiculous delusions about "their rights". You do NOT have the right to refuse arrest, and if you try it YOU WILL BE KILLED!
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@relentlessshillstomper114
The second laws says all isolated systems increase in entropy. Entropy is the loss of usefulness of its energy caused by dispersal. But that doesn't have to be everywhere in the system. the earth, for example, has Life, which is ANTI-entropic, and stores structure and energy. But the sun, the other part of the earth-sun system has monstrous energy and monstrous entropy that keeps the net entropy positive. The earth is not a pressurized container, it is an open gravitational atmosphere, where lower molecules are pressed down by not only gravity but the weight of the molecules above them weighing down on them. Your problem is you didn't read the whole book. Dumb Donald Deniers never do. All flerfers, creationists, and nutball conspiritards are uneducated and cherry-pick statements to try to survive argument, and fail.
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@maybepriyansh9193
Hindu atheism
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Atheism (Sanskrit: निरीश्वरवाद, nir-īśvara-vāda, lit. "Disbelief in Ishvara") or disbelief in God or Gods has been a historically propounded viewpoint in many of the Astika (Orthodox) streams of Hindu philosophy.[1] There are six major orthodox (astika) schools of Hindu philosophy — Nyaya, Vaisheshika, Samkhya, Yoga, Mīmāṃsā and Vedanta.
Among the various orthodox schools of Hindu philosophy, Samkhya, Yoga and Mimamsa, while not rejecting either the Vedas or Brahman,[2] typically reject a personal God, creator God, or a God with attributes.
Some schools of thought view the path of atheism as a valid one but difficult to follow in matters of spirituality.[3]
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@hunden8404
Your bullshit is totally over the top, that same assertion could be said of every government that taxes people. There's nothing wrong with any of the measures I suggested if implemented by a democracy. Now you may not LIKE a democracy doing that, but that's what all criminals and tax cheats say when caught. You must then think that all governments are "psychopathic totalitarians". Sorry, bud, but a citizen owes to the economic system that gives him succor whatever it decides democratically is his debt to the rest of us, because without said system protecting him and his family and goods, he would be subject to the cruel law of the jungle, dog eat dog, eat or be eaten. Any democratic gang that assures your safety you owe your fealty and obedience to it, lest you become predated. If you won't do what we require, then we don't need to protect you or your family. You are outlaw and available for the taking! You see, the State of Nature is anarchy, and that is only overcome for a better condition by gangs who all agree to do so, The government is the biggest gang, and if you're lucky you get to live under one that is democratic, because if it isn't, well then you're REALLY fucked, and so are your wife and daughter!! Obey your democracy, any alternative is too grim to bear.
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Most people don't pay THAT much in taxes so as to allow the govt to turn around and bribe them using the same money, all to be shills and tell YOU a falsehood. If the govt had to bribe everybody they wouldn't have enough money to DO anything ELSE!! If some people wanted to control you, what would they do? They would tell you that everyone but them and their cronies were shills for a vast conspiracy and that you couldn't dare trust them, this is what controlling gas-lighting husbands do to abused wives, this is what religious cults do to their members. Flat earth is one of these cults. They are doing it just to find out how much power they can wield using these kinds of tactics. There's nothing to their claims. They do no real research, they don't bother to try to actually explain anything we all see in nature, they just keep screaming shill and pretending they have inducted you into some kind of glorified "truth squad" entirely under their control. Everything they say is jargon they made up and jibber-jabber meant to confuse you into thinking they have explained things when they haven't. Any scientist knows they're lying in an instant. They only can take advantage of those with not enough Science background to know any better, and enough psychological vulnerability to fall for it if they get to be "part of something" that gets back at "the man", whoever the fuck HE is. It's all purest nonsense! THEY didn't TEST ANYTHING!! They TOLD you they did, and that YOU should BELIEVE THEM!! They counted on YOU NOT CHECKING THEM FOR YOURSELF, and relying on them as your authority!! Anyone near the ocean with a pair of binoculars can watch a ship go over the horizon and disappear bottom first and then look with your binoculars!! But you DON'T!! Instead you believe them, when if you HAD looked you would see that your binoculars only magnify the sight of the ship disappearing bottom first over the horizon!! ALL binoculars do is magnify, they are NOT MAGIC!! That whole bullshit is a patent Eric Dubay LIE!! You didn't "wake up", you went to sleep, just as they wanted you to do.
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NO!! Fairness means WE ONLY accept that there be NO LOSERS FOR ANY REASON!! You survive against predators ONLY because we protect you and LET you use OUR monetary system. The actual state of the world WITHOUT US is STILL dog eat dog, kill or be killed, war of nature, law of the jungle.
Without US you are a moment away from your property being seized by some gang, your wife and daughters being enslaved and raped, and you being killed. So you OWE US WHATEVER we demand so that we can protect you this way!! If we say YOU must give so that the weak are protected, housed and fed, then you pay, or you will be OUTLAW, and we will throw you out of US to be prey to anyone who wants your stuff or your family!!
This is the Social Contract. You never have to sign up for it, but if you don't do what WE say, then you LOSE IT!! Included among the predators who will take everything you have, if you do not submit to our Democratic Socialist rule, is the rest of US, who will now be your enemies since you have chosen to be outside our protection!! We will imprison or kill you and TAKE what we demand!!!
Are we just the biggest gang then? Might makes right? YES, WE ARE!! But we are Democratic. Join us, or become the victim/slave of any smaller gang who will likely be the farthest thing from democratic that you could EVER IMAGINE!! And THAT is the TRUE REALITY OF LIFE, you MORON!!
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Your beliefs are unrealistic nonsense. Just like the Civil War, a superior organized military would preserve the union. It pays them, honors them, and gives them rank and power. The red states are mostly empty, population-wise. Over 65% of the people are in the east, and the cities are not half of it, the country people in the east outnumbers the ten most populated red states, and they are democrats! The nutball right-wing is less than 15% of the population. And among those most are aged and senile. Their kids left the farm to get the fuck away from them and become urban. The number who might fight, or pretend to, are under 10%. Even the rest don't want to end this nation, The red state nutballs are scattered, and whatever they took over, we know right where they are by satellite, and scary industrial scale killing machines, missiles and drones would take it back in short order. They would die wholesale or surrender in dishonor, never to legally own guns ever again. These clowns have too much to lose, and they would run and hide. Lose their farms, lose their guns, and get their homophobic asses dumped in dropped soap prison camps, this would be the fate they most fear other than death. No fifth column action is even practical in this day and age.
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Ayn Rand was an utter and complete moron. If this shithead doesn't think he has any inherent obligations to the rest of us, that means we have NO obligations to protect him from any bandit gang who wants to rob him, rape his wife and daughters, and kill him!! The Social Contract is NOT something you have to sign before you're obligated in return for protection, it is INHERENT in the State of Nature, if you don't join up with the biggest gang and do what we agree to do, then you're subject to the pre-human War of Nature, dog eat dog, law of the jungle!! The way you get protection from other humans is to agree to obey the rules of our group that WE MAKE!! If you wish to benefit in any way from our economic system, for instance, then you become subject to its taxes, for ANY purpose we decide they are needed from you!! What you pay, for our protection, is up to the democratic rule of the group, and just be fucking damned glad that the group that protects you is egalitarian and democratic, because it could just as easily be a tyranny from which you derive protection by blind helpless inequitable obedience!!!
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archy2frank2 She's not lying about the damned emails. It was a trumped-up charge by republicans that only idiots now believe. The simple fact was that when she first got the job as Sec of State it was a much less internet savvy time, there was no hard policy about email servers, and people in government are notoriously non-tech savvy. She probably went along with whatever the people around her set up for her, she doesn't know shit about servers, and out of 30,000 emails they found three that should have been recognized as classified? I'd say that's not really a bad batting average.
She didn't HAVE any "decisions"in Libya, there was NO way marines could have gotten to the scene fast enough to make a difference, so says the committee that investigated. Pretending she had any broad power to do anything in Libya identifies your profound ignorance of what the Dept of State does or can do on the ground in foreign crises that go amok.
The simple fact is that all this comes from a republican disinformation campaign to get the Clintons by any means necessary by bad actors in the GOP that dates back to his first election, and a developed plot to destroy her to keep her from gutting the banksters interest in all the health insurance industry with national health care. All it is is a rumor mill they keep grinding to try to harm the Clintons.
And I don't think she knew anything about the DNC, those people run in the background while she is occupied with the campaign and they pretty well have a free hand and she doesn't have time to control all of it. They got a bit overzealous and partisan, that's all. One or two people thought Bernie couldn't get elected, and so they tried to stymie him. It's a recognized adage in the Democratic party that if you ask for too much socialism you don't get elected. So they thought they were doing the party a favor.
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TheDisproof It's obvious we are not currently living sustainably. This is different, however, from being overpopulated. If we COULD currently live sustainably and are simply not doing it, then we may not technically be overpopulated, except in an aesthetic sense. But if we cannot actually live sustainably now, and that's because of population, then we are overpopulated. I'm not sure we know which is true. There is an awful lot that can be done with permaculture, land recovery, vertical farming, and extensive renewables, so that, if we re-organized our political and economic systems, we COULD live sustainably with the current and even future population levels. Whether it would be as grandly oblviious to the need for efficiency in energy, food, and water consumption or not is not yet known.
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TheDisproof Your cynicism is simply not supported by evidence. We have enough for even 11 billion people to be warm, and sheltered and fed, and have water. The only limitations are political. There is 10 acres of arable land for every person, growable land, not desert. We only need a half acre or less to support one human life. All you have to do is garden by hand a half hour a day. Water doesn't disappear, we simply use it faster than it is replenished as fresh water from the hydrologic cycle from the oceans. We don't need the massive quantities we are using, we only need enough to drink and grow our crops, sea water can be processed for all industrial processes. The amount used for agriculture the way we're doing it is 100 times more than the crops need. Proper soil development holds water like a sponge. The way we're doing it it all runs off or evaporates. Some don't have cellphones or computers, but those are a few, and that is easily remedied by technology. Fossil fuels are NOT necessary to grow food, it is simply the easy way to do it if people won't garden and want machines to quickly fuck over the soil and leave it barren. That it takes fossil fertilizer is a myth promoted by people who want to keep all their conveniences and not be bothered to garden a half hour a day. All you have to do is compost your greenwaste and nightsoil and you can grow your food without it. Soil loss is accelerating everywhere people refuse to garden and where they try to get off easy over-grazing with food animals. If they used chickens instead of goats that wouldn't happen. Chickens provide meat and eggs and do wonderful things with garden soil. People who wish can grow catfish and tilapia in small ponds, and use the waste on the garden. These things are all easy. Why are you so discouraged? Gardening is easy, the sun and the plants do all the work.
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TheDisproof No they (105) don't, what posturing!! 105 science academies could never agree with any one internet YouTube clown!! How absurd!! A hectare is what, about 2.5 acres, so 12 billion hectare is about 30 billion acres, or three acres apiece for 11 billion people. And the land used for agriculture doesn't include ALL arable land OR people's yards, where they could easily grow most of their vegetables and chickens. Yes, a 4 acre truck garden can feed 20 people easily. I'm a former pig and truck farmer, AND an EMT AND an auto engine rebuilder, AND a physicist-engineer!! I do have a long list of practical skills that let me know these things. I'm retired but I have had a full life. No, you obviously think food comes from the grocery store and take somebody's word for the rest of it. We do NOT NEED fossil fuels to grow food. We can replace ALL fertilizers with greenwaste and human and animal manure, and all it takes is a half hour a day to grow your food. The ONLY thing fossil fertilizers do is make it easy to grow a lot with a few people and machinery. But if everyone who wants to get fed works a half hour a day gardening, then you can grow three times as much easily. Any truck farmer can tell you that you don't need ammonium nitrate and potassium and phosphorus unless you take the greenwaste off the land and don't add manure. All fossil fertilizer is for is to enable most people not to garden!! The only reason we use fossil fuels and barely make do is because we don't garden!! Many of the global impoverished don't have the know how to grow on a half acre, but if they took one minimal gardening course they would know how. Many of them don't even have any handtools! You're EXTREMELY city-ignorant!!
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TheDisproof Sure, if we use fossil we ARE unsustainable, but not if we don't!! So: No. That's NOT why we're using it. We're using it because we don't want to have to all become part time gardeners. That's the only reason. The shit required to fertilize the crops we eat comes from the crops we eat, which we then shit out, and if we use that directly back on the crops then the crops will have enough. This is the nutrient cycle. We use fossil fuels to avoid having to take good care of the earth and do so personally. We do it so a very few people can grow our food very very inefficiently on a great deal of land, when it takes ten times less land if we grew our food personally in gardens. Many intensive gardeners can, with only about an hour or two a day, produce enough food for them and their families on a quarter to a half acre. Part of this is fruit and nut trees which need very little attention. The rest is moving around chicken tractors to fertilize garden plots and for eggs and meat and harvesting catfish raised in small ponds with plant waste. The vegetables, when properly mulched, literally grow themselves. Very little actual energy is needed when it is all set up properly. I'm a physicist and raised soybeans, corn and hogs and chickens in my youth. My garden never needed a fucking tractor. We had so much wood chips and mulch on it that it never needed any weeding and virtually no watering. We would collect that from the woods with tarps and a rake. We had easily enough to feed ourselves on only an hour a day labor. And with raised beds we barely had to bend over! Only the corn and beans needed tractoring. And those were to feed another 200 folks who didn't want any dirt under their fingernails. We don't have to keep living that way!! I don't think you know shit about farming. You're an idiot. You talk like a city boy who thinks food comes in trucks.
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TheDisproof No. Fossil fuels were just a convenience so that we each did not have to compost our waste and garden about a quarter acre for each one of us for about an hour a day. The atoms were sufficient, the space is sufficient, evidenced by the fact that we are alive. The sun is more than sufficient, the water is sufficient as well when retained in the soil by thick humus. All fossil Haber-Bosch did was make it so few could feed many without returning waste and compost to the soil. Previously we had felled forests and wasted the topsoil they provided till there was little left, and then came the dust bowls. The only way to continue to raise food on such land was to add NPK from other sources, usually fossil driven. And because we had removed and not returned the nutrients after we had passed them through our bodies we had to add lime as well, it was becoming calcium and phosphorus depleted because it was hauled away to market to be eaten elsewhere and wind up in rivers and streams down to the ocean. Same with iron and magnesium. As for population, watch Hans Rosling, US population specilaist and MD. As for gardening yields, watch Permaculture recovery of land, it is amazing. We don't have to live this way, we can live the RIGHT way. Then we won't NEED fossil fuels for food. If we need some machinery it can run on Canola and Corn oil biodiesel, we don't need that much of it and rarely. On most Permaculture farms the tractor sits idle and has to be started periodically just to keep the battery charged and the fuel bowl from drying out. But the very things we usually use tractors and trucks for are usually actually mistakes!! Sure, spades and hoes need fuel to make, but there are the forests to burn judiciously, and we don't need that much if we are frugal. We over-use steel for most of its applications. And solar can be used to reform the monstrous pile of metal we currently have laying around. I run my welder on an inverter off batteries charged by solar panels! According to Rosling, 11 billion can be fed, no big problem, the problem is all political, the rich abusing the resources and the land for quick wealth. Sure, we need clothing, but we don't need as much as we have. Nor does its manufacture take that much fuel compared to most uses. Even plastics can be re-used much more than today if we sort and process them. And its a relatively low-temperature process. And n, I find your "points" invalid and uninformed.
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TheDisproof Nonsense. it doesn't take fossil fuels to heat homes in temperate climates, and certainly not in Cambodia or anywhere semi-equatorial or equatorial. Passive solar using southern exposure, superinsulation, and proper earth massing works fine, even at 50 latitude, and few live north of there. Nor do laptops require more than a solar panel to run. And they don't constitute much embodied energy either. You're talking to a physicist, I'm an expert at analyzing energy budgets, you can't fool me. This "modern standard of living" of which you speak seems to consist mostly of driving for everything, instead of having it delivered, which is ten or twenty TIMES more energy efficient, turning on powerful lights you don't need when LED lighting is fine, and expecting to be able to burn Watts when Watts aren't available from wind or sun, which is like expecting the sun to be out whenever you happen to wake up, it's stupid. You do your laundry when you have the power, ot whenever you choose, you still have clean clothes if you're not an ignoramus. You cook your food when the sun cooks your food, and you do something called "planning", what a concept. The rest is solar and batteries quite sufficient to run your lights and laptop, and if you think you need a big screen TV you're a dipshit anyway. Your heat comes from the sun, as does your hot water, and when you close your big shutters on your south-facing windows at night, the masonry down the middle of your sun-exposed south room radiates the heat it gained during the day. If there are some dark days you use a little wood in a very efficient stove whose flue is piped through masonry to retain the heat in the base of the house. You stop whining and see how good it all works, and without all the cost you've been paying and without the damage to the planet you've been wreaking. You take public transport, or use an electric bicycle to do your shopping. You drive an electric car and its powered off 15 solar panels. You have well-maintained warm clothing and reduce your expectation of perfection and having your every want supplied for a change. Your 105 national science academies would be scandalized to see how you've lied about everything they hold true. I know, I'm a physicist.
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TheDisproof Ah, the much vaunted call, at last. I can see why you didn't really wish anyone to see it. All it does is say that 105 orgs in the IAP are concerned about population and consumption. That's IT! AND IT DOESN'T AGREE WITH YOUR BELIEF AT ALL!! Shit, I could have signed THAT!! Hans Rosling made no "errors", HIS office in the UN is the one all of these 105 nations come to FOR the statistics and their analysis!! As for plastics this has been known for a VERY long time. Go do some research, I'm sure there are hundreds of papers. I've read a few, and I barely scratched the surface. An "Ecologist"? I would doubt there is any such thing anymore, most universities have closed their undergrad "ecology" programs and rely on the sub-specialities of science to do that kind of work in the post doc careers. It was found to be too broad a field to have a university specialty in, their graduates kept not getting jobs or getting jobs cleaning pools or working on farms, etc. Rosling has showed the rich are too small a number to matter as long as they are already at ZPG, and they are. Most of Europe is well below ZPG and most of them aren't rich. You still haven't seen Rosling's work on the age demographics of population, which shows that when the next forty years worth of people die the job will be done and we'll be heading down and fast!! And do you even know why? I bet you don't. It is NOT intuitive.
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James Nation You sure like emotional posturing in place of making sense.
Earth losing wildlife is not the same as human life on earth being beyond carrying capacity, however much you like biologic diversity. Rosling never said that human consumption of energy would not put us in danger atmospherically and climatologically. His concern was population, and his figures appear to be accepted by most scholars in the field. The population is doing what he said it would do, by actual measures, and that was his chief concern. However bad things get, that will be true. Whether we shall enjoy how bad things get is another matter. It really doesn't matter whether we like 11 billion, we're going to get 11 billion, and short of killing a bunch of people there is no way to prevent it. People may have to settle for survival, rather than "having needs". Most poverty is not caused by lack but by greedy systems and mal-distribution. Population won't change that. These are massive trends that you won't be able to turn. So I don't know why you're wringing your hands and posturing your snide insults without providing proofs of your own, it won't do you or anyone any good. Sustainable may have to be rice and lentils and just enough water to drink for a time. And so it goes. I worry more about people continuing to burn things than I do about population. Some fraction of us can always die of starvation and the rest will be alright, but we can't repair an atmosphere gone loony and killed us all.
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James Nation Well, gee, I'm with you, but how are we going to magically convince everyone to join our Socialist world government? You see, however laudable, and I truly think it is, achieving that in the time frame would not appear to be possible. It would involve killing a great number of people, and people don't seem to favor that, and if you try to do it yourself you will be quickly eliminated. Human obstinacy seems to be entirely unfactored in your view. I am puzzled why you imagine our happy Socialist Swede Rosling is some kind of criminal, when he would probably like the same outcome for all this as you do, but he thinks it isn't feasible. Once again I would ask for many more specifics for your proposals. How would you achieve this. It is obvious that a command political authority over the whole world would be able to do that, but how do you intend to achieve that?
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James Nation I'm not talking about what it LEADS to, but what is required to bring it about. So far the idea of a peaceful Socialist World Government hasn't caught on. This suggests someone is preventing it actively. Getting rid of that opposition would require physically opposing these people. That would likely require killing them. If some people are not obstinate, as you say, then why has the situation not naturally progressed to a World Wide Socialism? Whatever measures you might like to institute, the question remains as to whether everyone is simply stupider than you and haven't been told about them yet, or that there are forces that are obstinate against them. You haven't been very specific with your recommendations. Your whole argument seems a bit immature, developmentally speaking.
Yes, Sweden is not socialist, precisely, but it has made much progress toward it. If you compare it to here in the USA, then you will see a vast difference.
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@7discerning
All the ways people differ come from totally random chance, if you look at the statistics it is absolutely obvious. There is NO god or he'd have done a much better job. I know what catholics and many others believe, I have studied it systematically. The "mystery" nonsense is just another scam, god playing tennis without a net, counting the good things that happen and ignoring the bad and declaring god the victor from nonsense. If god does you good, it's god's goodness, if he does you bad, it's a mystery. The whole "god works in mysterious ways" bullshit. You could worship a jug of milk and get exactly the same answers to your prayers: "Yes, No, Maybe Later". Afterlife? What if you find yourself in another new life, where you have no memories of this current life, JUST LIKE YOU DID THIS TIME!! The precedent is set, your life itself PROVES that you can be brought into every possible new life indefinitely, and you'll likely never know it, till you learn to defeat death. The "god" idea, in MY experience, is ALWAYS a VERY BAD EVIL idea about what the process of existence might be. It is a paranoid conspiracy theory about reality. There is no such thing as "nothing", never has been, even empty space, we find from quantum mechanics, has mass, energy, and gravity. The total energy of the entire universe is zero. Our existence is a borrowed fantasy from the void, an adventure, nothing more, an infinite number of such adventures awaits the one observer. There is NO end, there has always been something, even if it is only composed of lives with their own beginnings and ends. Don't feel sorry for me, I am dying, I will likely die this year or next, according to my physicians. And let me tell you, as an atheist I am less worried about death than any christian I might have been myself, or have ever met. And I am more happy to have found this out in my life, while others worry and are terrified, than you can even imagine.
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You INVENTED your "god", you MADE him triune, you WROTE the bible, you INVENTED faith as an excuse for your belief, when faith is NOTHING, because you can believe ANYTHING on faith, even contradictory things, thus, faith CANNOT BE a path to truth!!
You being humble toward something that is only your own humble ignorant stupid INVENTION is RIDICULOUS!! It's HILARIOUS IDOLATRY!! Your god did NOT create the laws of physics, you IMAGINED that he did, but he is YOUR creation, not you, his!! Whatever we don't yet know, you are even MORE stupid than our remaining ignorance, because you DENY EVEN WHAT WE HAVE learned!! We don't HAVE to know, and probably NEVER WILL know what happens when we die!! You INVENTED SATAN TOO!! There is NO satan, all that shit you believe is IMAGINARY BULLSHIT!! I'm a PHYSICIST!! I KNOW what Science is, and YOU are an IDIOT, so YOU DON'T!
Believing ONLY things we can demonstrate and limiting our beliefs to ONLY those things that CAN be demonstrated is the HEART OF WISDOM!! There is NO "god" for your imaginary "satan" to lead anyone away from!! It doesn't EXIST!! The enforced god denial of dictators is not and never was atheism. They denied god to put themselves in god's place in the minds of their populations!! That's NOT atheism!! They tried to use phony atheism as a device to rule over people. REAL ATHEISM FREES PEOPLE!!
If Europe in the middle ages had realized atheism, they would have KILLED ALL THEIR KINGS AND "NOBLES" AND PRIESTS, torn down their castles and cathedrals, and built decent stone homes for themselves out of that rock and timber and made the land flourish, and NOT wasted themselves fighting those nobles' wars of conquest, building them castles, or building their child-raping priests huge cathedrals!!
Something you INVENTED can NEVER be a legitimate object for your humility!! Choose instead the Universe to be humble about, and what you don't know yet, so that you GO OUT AND EXPERIMENT WITH NATURE AND LEARN IT!! NORMAL is a person unfettered by your phony invented garbage beliefs.
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Random Ron What has Hilary done that was illegal? The FBI says nothing. The two other senate committees investigating her said nothing. The republican party has been out to get her for some unnamed crime since the Clintons first won election and kicked their asshole out. That is about the size of it, the rest is all "Trumped" up by big money right-wingers to try to confuse the public. Can you think of anything she did that was ever illegal or criminal that isn't bordering on a weird conspiracy theory? No, you can't, nobody can. That's why she's going to be elected no matter how badly the GOP wants the whitehouse back. There's nothing she could do to win Bernie supporters except bow out, that's because many Bernie supporters are not realistic politically. America is not yet ready for Socialism, it will take a little longer, but young people never ever want to wait, they want it before they can manage it. America won't go for it. I'd like it, you'd like it, but it won't happen. Watch the polls on such things, we aren't even to a majority on single payer yet. When people are told we can have socialized medicine they still see something fishy. The fishy part is big taxes on the rich they won't vote for because Americans, in their greedy little hearts, all want the chance to be rich too. They will have to give up on that fantasy before it will work.
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GreatPirateSolomon What actual legislation was Hillary qualified to present to Congress? None, she was first lady, not an elected position. But she promoted it publicly and tried to enlist support for it in Congress. FDR never promoted or achieved any universal health care, he was responsible for the New Deal, which was not a healthcare program. That was at a time when medical insurance was cheap. The New Deal was social security, food programs, and welfare for the disabled. Hillary never opposed universal single-payer healthcare, she supported any and all measures to increase healthcare availability for the poor. She never opposed Bernie on that, not ever. Obamacare was Obama's idea, and it was a halfway measure when he was still trying to cater to republicans with across the aisle measures like that, he later gave up on that and realized the republicans were disingenuous and dishonest and would stymie such efforts just for partisan reasons.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_health_care_plan_of_1993
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GreatPirateSolomon Yeah, but FDR never finished the proposal and never got anything. And yes, some right-wingers dreamed it up, like Romney did in Mass., but the right-wing abandoned it when the dems showed interest, and the ONLY reason the dems showed interest is that their '93 proposal got such harsh treatment, proving that the GOP is disingenuous. While the dems are trying to drag the country toward universal healthcare, the GOP is struggling to avoid that because it would mean the end of a number of profitable insurance giants. That the dems have settled for less when they couldn't get single payer means nothing, it is the direction that is important. Hillary early in the campaign didn't think we could get single-payer yet, she may have changed her mind now, having seen how Bernie dragged the country to the Left. But if you look at the speeches she gave in 1993 they sound JUST LIKE BERNIE!!
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Rumford Chimpenstein
I don't doubt the gulf of Tonkin, LBJ needed an excuse. We wanted to protect our colonial interests. The South Vietnam govt was corrupt petty nobility making a fortune on enslaving their people to sell us tungsten, tin, manganese, iron ore, bauxite, spices, and Exxon had just found oil off their shallow coast!
ISIS uses 50's technology. They ran out of Stingers and Russian mini-SAMs. Now they are down to AKs, machine guns and RPGs. That's 50's technology. We have tanks which have automatic levelers that can shoot at 40 mph. We have night vision, helicopters with look and shoot target tracking. We have gunships that can decimate whole areas. We have all kinds of specialized bombs and cluster bombs all laser guided. We have warthogs that can take out trucks and tanks. For very one of us killed we have killed a hundred or a thousand. The economic sanctions we impose if someone sells to them are withering. Two nations who sold to them are now under crippling embargoes and their economies are now going begging for jet engine parts, and they can't fix half their passenger and military jets.
I lived through all of this, you stupid little son of a bitch!! What the fuck do you fantasize I don't know?
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Prediction is entirely unrelated to the problem of free will. It wouldn't matter if we knew everything or nothing, what we do is what we were always going to do because all real outcomes are unary, there is only one future, and whatever one you wind up in, that was the one that was always going to happen for you. This is also why QM uncertainty gives us no help either. Whatever happens, it was always going to happen by definition, and whether it was random or not this is still true. Multiple possible futures are not real, they are just ideas. And likewise, you are fully Determined because whatever you decide you were always going to decide, and for the same exact reasons. You can see this at work regarding "changing your mind". You don't change your mind, other circumstances do, and once changed you are no more able to change it back on a whim than you were to change it before it changed on its own. We do NOT think our own thoughts, rather our thoughts think US!! If you cannot change even the tiniest thing you truly believe, without lying and just claiming you did, then in what sense do you have any "free will"?? The thing people never get is that the very definition of the Self is that which the Self cannot change, it can't change itself. Everything that changes the Self is Other, "outside" the Self, even later cogitation that causes us to change our mind is a mental process we have no control over. They operate on their own. We change each other, but even then, we can't help doing it to each other, what we say and do is beyond any control, but we do not and cannot change ourselves. This is the secret definition of Self and Others. If we could decide what we think we could decide to think we were somewhere much nicer than here, and if we could decide to believe that we would believe it beyond any contradiction, and then while we were in our other psychotic world of imagination we might die or be harmed, and we wouldn't know it. This life is a movie, a thrill ride, an adventure to assuage the inherent boredom implicit in infinity.. Enjoy the ride!
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asotolp Whether to lick someone else is NOT an "adult decision", that's something that squirrels do, as is sex. If there is adult supervision and she and her partner are provided safe venue and health care, there is no magical harm that can be done if she likes it and if it stops whenever she wants to. Other ridiculous religious assholes can try to shame her and slur her reputation about it, even while PRETENDING she was victimized by IT, when actually she was only THEIR victim of their emotional abuse, The phrase "adult decision" is often used to pretend a child can't consent to something they want to do, when countless other MORE dangerous activities are regarded as eligible for a minor's consent, like plating football, skateboarding, or riding in cars, Why do we not complain that a minor can't consent to THESE activities, eh??? Why? Because we aren't seeking phony religiously superstitious reasons to ban them!! That's all!!
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Michael Coulter Countries that have been conquered by European christianity are the ones who have these extreme views against child sexuality. That does happen to be most of the world, but not all of it by any means, which you'd know if you had traveled. They didn't come by it magically on their own, they were brainwashed with it at the point of a gun. Many native cultures that were halfway sane about sex had their cultures destroyed by white men who were terrified of sex and masturbation and believed they had to "save" these peoples from their "wickedness", when those people were how people SHOULD be sexually and socially. Whenever westerners talk shit about "power differential" between children and adults, they are merely using a jargon to justify the suppression of sex because of their own guilt and distorted shame, they never get it that this "power differential" is PRECISELY what makes ALL dealings between adults and children unfair in western society, and it is this very unfairness against children that should be eliminated, not merely for sex, but for everything. Children are abused constantly by overbearing adults inflicting their will upon them, and it is this that is damaging, whether sexual or in any other realm of activity, and which should be stopped. When adults behave as equals to children, that is the only situation that is NOT a form of abuse, and the ONLY situation in which ANY exchange of contact, sexual or otherwise, can be seen as healthy for children. That western society sees only sex as a way to be unfair merely reflects western society's antisexual neurosis. Western society is unfair to everyone in almost every way, so seeing it prate about only sex merely highlights their shame and distorted guilt about their own sexuality and their unhealthy and insane focus on sex. The only reason that sex is conjuncted with violence in western culture is that it does violence to people when they just wanted sex,
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Michael Coulter I wasn't sexually abused in any way as a child. But as a fairly young person of 10 or 11 I did crave opportunity for sexual attention, and adult sexual attention, and experienced sex with numerous younger and somewhat older partners at that time. Now I wanted this, and sought it out. It appears that you were forced, coerced, and frightened out of your wits by it, and sustained PTSD from the experience, as well as enduring your own sense of brainwashed shame that this society inflicts on everyone, enlisting victims to further victimize themselves in its name, whereas I didn't believe in this society or its shame at that point in my young life. By that time I fully hated this society and the crap it tried to brainwash people with. and had no such shame or belief in the strictures of repressive western society. I had fully dispensed with the christian religion and all that could be called religion, except my own personal belief, by age 10, and I was by that age a dedicated secret enemy of this society and culture. I trusted my own understandings. THAT's the difference between why you are damaged and I am not. This society caught you and made you hate yourself before you figured out the game so you could escape it on your own mind, which is the only place any of us are ever actually free.
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joe schmo From my research and understanding, that is still not well determined. It's a popular notion lately, but of the kind of notions that come, and have their 15 minutes, and then die a horrible death by fading away into obscurity. After all, we evolved from primates who eat a LOT of glucose-bearing fruit. Evolution working the way it does it would be hard to see a justification for disabling that system when the fat metabolic process became an addition to our genome. Carbs, well, that's another story as well, primates don't do well with complex carbs, they don't even produce the salivary enzymes to break them down to sugars, whereas we DO!! I think the picture is still very puzzling, but blaming the obese for "sinning" against their health is a bit moralistically paranoid. If we examine the cause of obesity as a caloric equation, we find that 100 pounds of fat carries 360.000 kcalories of energy. Over 30 years that is 12,000 kcalories a year, and 33 kcalories a day, and 11 kcalories per meal more than someone else is carrying that weighs 100 pounds less. Now I defy anyone to detect the difference between two meals that differ by only eleven calories. Something is true about the set-point that the body observes in its process of deciding what to absorb and store and what to dispose of in the gut. And I don't think we know what it is, but the metabolic difference is indeed quite tiny. I don't think I could devise, as an engineer, a circuit that could easily measure such a difference with sufficient accuracy so as to tell someone to stop eating so that in 30 years they would not weigh 100 pounds more than the guy next to them. Something we don't understand is going on.
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MonMalthias Yes the evidence does. Those who claim it isn't cost effective are merely shills for fossil or nuclear industries. The numbers have been run by the US DoE and by numerous physicists in the USA, such as Amory Lovins, one of the premier advisors to multiple large nations in the world on energy concerns.
All Mackay said was that we would be unable to waste the energy we are now wasting and meet our desire for those with renewables, but we don't need to, see my write-up farther back up the thread on the way we will be forced to live in the very near future.
Sure, desert is better, but then the costs of transport via grid do away with most of those gains. Pumped hydro and pumped ocean saline works anywhere. And gravitational rail mass works as well.
Renewables are not "for their own sake" they are for all our sakes, because we are running out of fossil we can dare to burn now, and nuclear is a loser. It doesn't matter what they cost, we need them and can't do without them anymore.
Solar and wind need NOT be in deserts or wilderness, the amount we need fits fine on the sum total of American rooftops and on highway verges.
Carbon capture doesn't work. Every experiment so far has leaked like a sieve. It promises only a slight delay in increasing our CO2 drastically. The earth is not a gas-tight vessel into which we can put our mistakes.
And nuclear is NOT low carbon, that was revealed by an itemization of costs and life carbon consumption done at Stanford.
And you don't seem to know shit about the maintenance of PV or wind turbines, you imagine they need constant cleaning, they don't. User experience is once a year and maybe not at all, depending on rainfall. You imagine turbines need brushes, they don't, most are axial flux multiphase. You just replace the bearings every twenty years.
We can diddle ourselves with fossil and get our atmosphere, oceans, and planet into greater and greater trouble from here on out, but it isn't any solution. Whereas renewables are!
The Energiewende is the solution, like it or not! Quit pretending we have other options, because we don't! All you nay-sayers seem like you're wringing your hands and coughing, peeing your pants at what you will lose at the prospect of beginning, when a lot of us have already begun.
I'm not just some "virtuous guy" with stars in my eyes, I'm a physicist who has already built passive solar homes, (two, and they work perfectly and heat AND cool themselves, from -20F to 110F) and installed 3000W PV that meets all of three family's needs, deep cycle batteries in the garage, and I have modified vehicles to electric easily and with great results. I have yet to build wind turbines, that may have to wait for my next life, but my friends who have already have great results. I WOULD have liked to have started a NiFe battery company for DIY-ers, however I'm getting too old now.
We don't need the massive amounts of energy at our behest currently, we need perhaps a tenth of it., and that is eminently do-able and will HAVE to be done, there is no choice!!
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***** Not when you factor in the environmental costs of carbon emission. And THAT'S the point.
Anyway, energy investment drops suddenly when you don't need to supply fuel to a solar or wind system, and that means your total EI can be amortized over decades and billions of Watt-hours produced in the life of the device, your ER, and if the system only requires inexpensive maintenance, say only bearings every two or three decades, then the total EI drops with respect to ER even further. That;s wind turbines.
Now PV is still producing three decades hence, even if reduced in efficiency by 5-10%. And studies show that decline finally plateaus and they remain useful MUCH longer, a huge ER for EI, which is paid back in only a couple years compared to amortized ER. And once again, no ongoing fuel costs.
Every other energy system we have either has an enormous cost for fuel over its life, and/or an enormous initial cost BOTH for the generator plant and for the grid to transport the energy and its maintenance, the line items are bewilderingly large when tallied up. Highway construction and maintenance, line maintenance, man-power, transport of fuel, pipelines, habitat destruction, all must be factored in.
Both in cost v benefit and ERoEI, renewables are the winners hands down.
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***** While pumped works well, it takes a long time to construct, almost as long as a fossil plant. And it takes up a lot of real estate. And then it still takes the massive costs of building and maintaining a grid to and from it.
Both the US and China and India are constructing massive battery plants to take care of the demand, which in just a year or two will multiply our battery output by 5 times or more, bringing the yearly production of batteries to over 1 TeraWatt-hour of storage. That is envisioned to meet all storage needs for batteries within the next 10-15 years.
People will have storage in their homes, and power supplied by their own PV on their roofs and local grids with community wind turbines. Nuclear is both dangerous politically and from terrorism. And every nuclear plant ever built has bankrupted its owners and operators, which is why no one wants to invest in them anymore.
Wind and solar complement each other, because when the wind dies down the sun comes out. Sufficient renewables can be built in this way to make energy reliable. Colorado Power thought wind too unreliable and chafed at public requirements to include wind. Instead they found that it stabilized their grid and that wind was very predictable and easy to maintain, and that a lot of smaller wind turbines had a much less catastrophic effect on the grid when a few failed or needed maintenance than when large plants went down suddenly, and now they want to triple their wind farms this year. The position that wind makes power grids unreliable seems to be a myth, according to Amory Lovins.
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***** Molten salt thermal storage works well for short duration fall outs. It is being used by the solar facilities in Spain to power the night life of the city of Seville. Insulating a tank of a molten salt with a very high specific heat is the way to go. However, batteries are much more efficient.
Another method of passive geothermal heat is to insulate the ground around homes for a ways out at a shallow depth, and this will cause the thermoclines of the earth's heat to slowly, over several years, rise up to meet the insulative gradient and keep even 50 and 60 degree latitude homes warm in winter, all you need do is superinsulate the above-ground structure and blow air around from the basement. This is called an underground thermal umbrella. Since a third of western power consumption is heating, this is a substantial gain.
Added to solar thermal using windows, Trombe walls and solar walls, this can give you all you need. A Trombe wall is glass window next to a brick or rock wall inside a home used for radiative storage. Similar is a solar wall, where an exterior brick or stone wall is covered with glass to retain solar insolation. In higher latitudes and, in winter and at night, these windows can be covered by hinged insulative battens that are closed at night, to retain heat from loss to the sky by radiation. Together these simple strategies, little more than a few weekend projects, can eliminate your heating and cooling bills.
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MonMalthias Your underestimates of the benefits of renewables are carefully crafted, alright, but they only amount to cherry-picking and declining to mention countering information.
Amory Lovins already has the data on numerous renewables as part of grids in a number of places, and the peak usage is NOT during the day when the sun is high, but in the evening when all come home and put the kettle on, so to speak. This is why we need local storage for homes, batteries would be best. Your 6 billion for the Australian reservoir project will buy ONE HELL of a lot of batteries.
And while pumped hydro is fine for some backup using existing reservoirs, building more reservoirs for these schemes are both VERY expensive, and displace people and wildlife at a great ecological and human cost.
Andusol may use some gas at night, but it is only because the plant isn't large enough for the local needs, when it is expanded that will change. These are beginnings, not final cuts.
Bravenewclimate is a website with a particular slant on supposed ecological concerns, Brooks is waaay pro-nuclear.
And the others are also a minority opinion cherry-picked from among a majority who see it quite differently. Storage only increases emissions during its construction phase, and pays it back over many years of stored power. This seems to have slipped their minds in their zeal to find fault with renewable considerations. There are a host of baloney websites and journals these days that claim all sorts of things, many very cleverly disguised as "science journals" but their supposed peer-review process and staff are inbred in a certain political mindset and they are merely playing at science for gain.
We literally have no choice here. We can continue to increase carbon or promote nuclear, and wind up with a planet in danger from its atmosphere and oceans, or endangered from proliferation of nuclear material to terrorists while the promoters get rich off us.
The only final choice is renewables, and limiting our demands for energy until we have converted the world. Even if we did nuclear, the fuel won't last, and the terrorists might, and even if we did fossil, we would be risking the ecosystem, and we will shortly find ourselves wishing we had not done so. That pesky CO2 is VERY hard to get rid of, hundreds of years hard.
You seem to be content to hem and haw and delay and forego, and deny the ultimate truth, that conversion to renewables are now required for our survival. First your type denied AGW, then you said, well, there is GW but we didn't do it, then you said, well we did it but we can't undo it, and now you're trying to find reasons why undoing it can't work. You're piddling around like a creationist who had to give that up, then try intelligent design, and then when forced to give that up, is now reduced to sniping at Evolution as best you can. It's the same mindset.
It doesn't fucking matter how much it fucking costs!! We have to do it, so get positive and think of how to do it the fastest and cheapest and quit fucking around like a brainwashed imbecile!
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MonMalthias It doesn't matter if you think it is "unworkable", it is what we must do, and any denial of that is, in effect, a denial of the inherent message of climate change.
100% renewables cannot BE more damaging to the environment than fossil or nuclear of ANY kind. Why? Because it doesn't release carbon, except the initial carbon cost, which is invariably less than building a plant and burning the shit. And because it is our only hope. And it must be done.
As for nuclear, I was once tapped to run a nuclear plant and declined. I have the background and know this stuff. For everyone who says proliferation - oooh it's not a big deal - I can find three nuclear experts with more savvy than I have who will dispute that strongly. Almost ANY nuclear material can render great parts of cities uninhabitable with a dirty conventional bomb. And they don't even need a bomb, dropping it in the reservoir will suffice.
And as for the economy, that's rich people, and I don't give a fuck about rich people or whether they get to ski five times this year.
I care about giving people the message that they are going to have to stay the fuck home, live close to work, use electric bicycles, retrofit their home for super-insulation and solar absorption, garden their yard intensively, raise chickens, plant fruit trees, go the fuck to sleep at night, turn off the lights downtown, plan better for their deliveries of what they need so we use the least fuel to do it, and do without their profligate consumption for a few decades until we install sufficient renewable infrastructure, and stop imagining it's the fucking fifties and they can just flip a switch anymore.
It doesn't matter what I want, it matters what is feasible. My study of the physics and geochemistry says we will be so bad off in 20 to 30 years that we won't know the place anymore, not so much because of climate change itself as because of successive failures of our crop yield, fossil fuel availability and cost, and attendant political collapses in the less developed world due to climate and fuel deprivations. And I think you're denying anything that leads you to that fact. In ten years air travel will no longer be sufficiently profitable to continue it, it is right on the edge now and no one seems to be telling people.And when fuel prices begin to spike just to double their current price, recession will set it. And our leadership is so defective that it will lead to worse outcomes all over.
I'm not some wailing moron declaring everyone a "shill" who doesn't agree with me. you're merely under-informed compared to me.
And your sleazy attempt to discredit Amory Lovins by citing him but ignoring what he said altogether or misrepresenting it makes it much more likely that you really ARE a shill! You've now digressed into the scummy and smarmy. People will line up to spit on you.
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MonMalthias History, just to remind you, hasn't happened yet. This situation is unprecedented. "Questionable Energy Policy"? You mean one you don't like because it threatens the existing economy? Rich people? How quaint.
There is no reason to characterize extreme promotion of renewables and Nega-Watt conservation as delaying anything regarding climate, you're merely posturing impotently without evidence. I'm no nature first tree-hugger. I don't mind modifying the earth to support humans, as long as it is carefully done.
So-called "negative emissions" are important, but the only ones seen so far to work are biochar, enhanced weathering of exposed minerals, and replanting forests with highly CO2 absorbant plant species.
Direct absorption from the air is not shown to be feasible on a large scale. And CCS so far has not lived up to its promise, it leaks like a sieve. It seems our understanding of deep rock behaviors with CO2 are not panning out.
Still, these are all VERY long term mitigation techniques, when what we need is to stop producing the CO2. That is best done by renewables and extreme energy frugality.
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MonMalthias No, I want to debate your morals and good sense. You keep citing things that glaringly ignore other things. You do this to try to win instead of trying to find the truth.
Rich and poor is not a game played only by the energy sector. That will have to be dealt with someday.
But it doesn't in any way change the fact that we HAVE to go entirely with renewables now, whether we like it or NOT, it is NOT a choice. You pretending it is, and that you can stop it if you LIE hard enough only makes you a bad actor in the whole issue.
We can indeed nuclearize the world, with an insane amount of danger from terrorism, rogue states, and at a cost several TIMES that of the cost of the same done with renewables!
Why would we want to? Just to be able to forget about the problem till the nuclear fuel runs out in another 50 years or a century? Some estimates show 30 years left if we go whole hog on nuclear. And then we have NONE of the renewable infrastructure built that we need to survive, and don't even have the remaining nuclear portion to help us convert! The only kind of reactor you can run without fuel is thorium, totally untested on a mass basis, and BREEDERS!! Bomb plants.
UK is wrong because they are wrong a lot, and this happens because they are a political organization and not a scientific one, they need to please a large array of moneyed private interests they are beholden to politically.
Germany is adding coal TEMPORARILY, as I said previously and you handily ignored, to get them through the decommisioning of their nuclear plants and the building of their renewables infrastructure to take on the load. Now if you had read the Energiewende documents you would KNOW this, but either you're illiterate, or you're just lying for your own purposes hoping no one will notice.
So-called "rare earths" to dope silicon with are NOT running out, and are not as "rare" as their name on the periodic table would have you believe. Also, dopant need not BE rare earth, PV works 94% as well with on boron and phosphorus dopant, I've built PV cells that way in my physics degree training.
People failing to pay their utilities and being reminded by turn off happens in every nation regardless of wealth. It is illegitimate as a talking point.
Even France wants to undo its reliance on nuclear these days, most future energy plant spending in France will NOT be to replace aging nuclear plants, but is now trending toward massive wind turbine installation.
Everything you're tried to ply us with here has been nothing but one big well-crafted LIE, do you even HAVE any morals? Who is it that you are LYING FOR?? Do they pay well?
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MonMalthias Both. But for a number of reasons. I don't think nuclear can be done safely, or economically compared to renewables. But I also think the quest for nuclear grows out of the same immaturity in craving a continuation of our ignorant profligate mindless energy wastage that has got us in trouble so far. Sooner or later, likely sooner, the human species is going to have to learn to live on a strict energy budget from renewables which we will always be able to rely on if we just build the infrastructure to do it, and any delaying of that is an immature adolescent response to our predicament. And the faster we get on with it the better off we shall be in the long run. If we are then, once we learn frugality, to find that we have enough renewables to waste a bit, then we will perhaps have earned them, but not before.
Inequality doesn't arise from the Energiewende, it arose long ago in economic society. Energy frugality will tend to egalitarianize our political system as well, and force socialization of resources, better distributing them and further eroding disparate wealth.
$200 a pound uranium from sea water has been a pipe dream for years. Why has no one done it? I think it is because this figure is mere puffery. Someone might like to be employed doing such, but it won't come in for anywhere near that.
Nuclear is more costly than renewables, that is because EVERY reactor built so far has bankrupted its owners and operators to the degree that they had to split their companies and let the power reactor division go bankrupt to escape the mounting debt. IF ALL COST ARE INCLUDED, including security and the environment, nuclear is MUCH more expensive. If you read something besides your pro-nuclear echo chamber you'd know this.
The only problem with renewables is that we will have to be very frugal with their use to make them suffice us. It is by NO means impossible to get along entirely without fossil and nuclear, especially if we go on a war-time footing for the production of solar and wind and home retrofit materiale. If people know what they have got for their use in a day, and that after that they must shut it down and go the fuck to bed for the night, what of it? Intermittency is NOT the death of decent civilization, it is perhaps the beginning of it!!
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MonMalthias If nuclear was so cost effective, why does it keep bankrupting every reactor company that builds and runs one? Don't be stupid, there are dozens of studies on nuclear that indicate it is an economic loser. That IS why NONE of the smart money is building reactors anymore. Your one biased EIA paper that doesn't account for that doesn't cut it.
I don't think we should frack OR split atoms. Nuclear does NOT provide cheap energy. That illusion only occurs when you discount all the extraneous actual costs.
Energy austerity is what humans must learn, and any delay harms them.
Once again you LIE and pretend Germany is intending to burn fossil indefinitely, when the Energiewende documents explain that this is temporary till they establish their huge renewables infrastructure they intend.
Nuclear is carbon free, true, but that isn't its whole story. It is politically dangerous and economically disastrous, and it takes one down the wrong road away from mature austerity.
And once again you repeat the LIE that the 30,000 Germans who had their power turned off for non-payment pretending they didn't pay up and get it restored that very week.
Australia is being stupid. When they have fucked up their air some more they will realize they need to go all solar, and they can do it easiest. It's just that they have entrenched rich coal interests and land rights that are getting in the way of the politics. That will change.
Hydro is fine, if you have it, and Europe is exploiting far more very small hydro these days, as we should be doing. We manage rainfall over land the worst of all industrial nations. We have massive regular flooding that could be routed and exploited that we don't use because the political will isn't there to demand it be used.
Storage is NOT a "smokescreen for fossil", That is how some are using it, but it is totally unrelated, as you well know, and so you're LYING LIKE A SHIT ONCE AGAIN!! Mitigating intermittency LEGITIMATELY through renewable processes is NOT a problem.
You're carrying on your lying pretense that I contradict myself by a host of strawman misstatements of my position. You are a dishonest piece of shit!!
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Post-abortion women suffer only if they have been deceived and deluded by religion. A fetus is NOT a person, it does NOT THINK, and that is the core of being a person! Things that think are persons, things that do not think are PROPERTY!! The woman's property which she can dispose of. Forcing a woman to remain pregnant is organ enslavement, same as if you forced her to give blood or donate an organ or be forced to be a blood surrogate to someone with kidney failure. The zygote/embryo/fetus is a human LARVA, it is alive, it is human, it is growing, but it is NOT A PERSON and HAS NO RIGHTS!! No, Science does NOT say that human "Life" begins at conception, it says it is cellular life, with a small "l" and not human experienced Life with a large "L". We kill cellular life all the time, we kill germs and animals to eat. But the only human Life is that of a thinker. not something which has never had a single thought. You know fetuses do not think, your body was a fetus, and if you claimed to remember being that fetus, people would ridicule you and you would lose credibility. Everybody KNOWS they did not think as a fetus. Anyone who tries to enslave a woman to a pregnancy should be taken out and beaten to death the same as someone who captures women and keeps them enslaved in a cage in their basement!! You religious SHIT are NOT going to win this one, despite all your efforts and your subtle tricks with words.
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John, watch out for saltpeter, potassium nitrate, here's the toxicity write-up:
/SIGNS AND SYMPTOMS/ After ingestion of potassium nitrate gastro-enteritis, with severe abdominal pain, vomiting, vertigo, muscular weakness, irregular pulse, cyanosis, convulsions, and collapse may occur. The toxic dose varies greatly; from 15 to 30 g may prove fatal but much larger doses have been taken without serious effects.
[Reynolds, J.E.F., Prasad, A.B. (eds.) Martindale-The Extra Pharmacopoeia. 28th ed. London: The Pharmaceutical Press, 1982., p. 1746]
It causes kidney and liver damage and methalyzes your hemoglobin so you don't get enough oxygen. Well waters that have KNO3 runoff from fertilizer have killed infants outright.
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@junkim5853
Never ever happened. You're confusing phony feudalist "socialist" countries, where the rich control you, with real socialism, where the people control you. No rent, no landlords, those are all made illegal, you own your home, period, no one can take it away from you, no eviction. Fuck with your neighbors and you go to prison work camp, if you don't work, then you get no food. Every time you do it again, prison work camp for longer. Everyone has to live someplace. Live in your own home, or in prison work camp. Your choice. Bullying is forbidden by the state, prison work camp, or death if you are a real problem. All serious wealth is confiscated. You may have personal property, tools, and keepsakes. You own your own home. If you don't seek employment at the employment department, then you get no food card and can't get public free food. You have free transportation, free public health, free water and power up to a certain amount, free telecom, free access to used goods at state agencies, free access to building materials for home improvements and hobbies and supplies for gardening. Free use of trucks and heavy implements as needed. Build yourself solar and battery powered small vehicles. Shut up and enjoy your life. Bother people and its prison work camp.
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@Qrzychu92
WRONG!! In my society people do PROPERLY laudable things that are shared among everyone. Not stupid feats of inefficient acquisition of other's homes, factories, etc. They own only their own home, nobody else's, and they must work for a living instead of luxuriating off money they connived to get unfairly. Money no longer exists. You earn labor hours credit on the govt computers. If you invent something you put it online and a following grows up around it, and those who copy it name it after you. You are famous, and encouraged to make more of such. If you want to trade your home and garden for another elsewhere, we have a government run home trading site, and if two of you agree, you can trade homes, straight across, no monetary consideration. If you need a bigger home, you add on rooms and govt will share expense of materials. You ASK for what you want from your friends and neighbors at Meeting. You want to live on a boat, you can if you can get them to agree. If you only want boat or plane sometimes, then you buy a share in a boating or flying club. The more the people work, the more they can get for each other. If you want more, sign up for more than your required work hours. While you're blabbing nonsense about Venezuela, which is a capitalist country,
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@Qrzychu92
No, dumbass, I want peaceful fair society where people are economic equals. If you don't want to work your job, come home to your family and hobbies and gardening, and instead want to connive ways to steal the possessions of others, their homes and their factories, then you belong in a work camp. THAT IS WHAT THE RICH DO!!
No, Venezuela is run by a rich cabal who stole all the oil money that rightfully belonged to the people and squirreled it away in off shore Caribbean banks. But the rich are being pushed into a corner by the people of Venezuela who are trying to take back their country from the oil profiteers who enslave the poor, and the rich there are screaming to our rich here to rescue them. And our rich are pretending once again that they want to bring "freedom" to Venezuela, when they really want to bring capitalist criminal power against the will of the people wanting to make things equal and fair.
No, labor hour credits can only represent actual labor. Money is artificial, and a phony connivance used to steal. Labor hours don't become profit, which is unearned money stolen from the workers.
You can't change my mind because I have discovered the truth about economics. Your notion that my way is "evil" is actually the real evil.
All a work camp is, is a productive prison, and the only people who belong their are criminals who don't want to work for a living, like the rich. The rich are nothing but successful criminals.
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@ravenousfire7798
It's exactly like any other felony. The Majority HAS THE RIGHT to decide WHAT RIGHTS we have, period, there is NO other such authority to do so! There are NO "natural rights", those are all excuses, like the excuses of "sovereign citizens" for their crimes.
You survive against predators ONLY because we protect you and LET you use OUR monetary system. The actual state of the world without US is STILL dog eat dog, kill or be killed, war of nature, law of the jungle. Without US you are a moment away from your property being seized by some gang, your wife and daughters being enslaved and raped, and you being killed. So you OWE US whatever we demand so that we can protect you this way!! If we say YOU must give so that the weak are protected, then you pay, or you will be OUTLAW, and we will throw you out of US to be prey to anyone who wants your stuff or your family!! That is the Social Contract. You never have to sign up for it, but if you don't do what WE say, you LOSE IT!! Included in the predators who will take everything you have, if you do not submit to our Democratic Socialist rule, is the rest of US, who will now be your enemies since you have chosen to be outside our protection!! Are we just the biggest gang then? Yes, we are, but we are Democratic. Join us, or become the victim/slave of any smaller gang who will likely be the farthest thing from democratic that you could EVER IMAGINE!! And THAT is the TRUE REALITY, you MORON!!
Libertarians are greedy immature adolescent simpletons. ALL rights are granted SOLELY by the democracy, awarding rights to one another based on what we each want for ourselves as well. Without the democratic government protecting our awarded rights, no one could be assured of anything, brigands could steal from you, rape your women, kill you. Law of the Jungle, dog eat dog, the War of Nature, as Darwin put it. For that protection each person owes the rest of us the costs of defending and protecting them. The People also realize that wealth inevitably steals by usury and investment without labor, and progressively robs the less able of their right to their very lives, homes, and property. Thus the very fiscal system which we set up among us to assist the lucky in their acquisitions, itself justifies additional cost upon the lucky and the proud. Thus the people, democratically, though this Social Contract, has the right to confiscate wealth beyond a certain level, in order to provide for the needs of the ill, the malformed, the ignorant, the elderly, and those being underpaid for their labor due to the greed and connivance of the lucky. Without this Social Contract, we would invariably see a vastly wealthy nobility occur and most of the rest of us be living in filth in the streets or become their serfs, servants or slaves again. Absolute rights of wealth and property which are beyond a certain socially controlled level constitute nothing but organized criminality. Thus, actually Libertarianism is nothing but only barely disguised greed and barbarianism. If you cannot devise a FAIR fiscal system by which to live wherein you will not know in advance your fortunate or unfortunate place within it, then you are simply dishonest and disingenuous. Nature is not fair, which is why we do not use the state of nature as our governance. We took over the world and defeated all of its predators and adversities ONLY by our affectionate mutual cooperation, and those of us who did not Evolve to cooperate together on the plains of Africa were eaten one at a time and are NOT our ancestors.
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Krzysztof Skowronek
First of all, USSR had "socialist" in the name.
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Names can be lies.
Second of all, people on farms were starving all over 2 continents, because police came and took food they produce to give for free in the cities - pretty much what you are describing. People who critised the system were killed. Like you want. This was s close to Real socialism as you get. And no, I don't like the idea of it. Even if it was just few pieces of your eden, I'm pretty sure sure that putting more pieces would only make things work.
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Democratic Socialism doesn't do that, only PHONY socialism that is actually capitalist feudalism with a class of rich people who own the Politburo do that. In a REAL Democratic Socialism, rich people are not even allowed to exist.
Also, do you really thing that scientists (by that I believe you mean people that do research on universities) push progress forward?
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Yes, moron.
Who made personal computers a thing? Private company.
Who made rockets that land automatically? Private company.
If you say that NASA took us to the moon, so what? They didn't use the possibility in any other way than sticking a flag into the ground. We should had a base on the moon for like 30 years now.
Who will make the first autonomous car? Private company.
Who made smartphones? Private company.
Who builds fastest possible computers? Private company.
Who builds MRI scanners? Private company.
Who creates new drugs, cures and vaccines? Evil big pharma, those philphy capitalists. How dare they.
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No, Technology made those things possible, comes from scientists who are not paid exorbitantly, and are not rich and glamorous. We would be MUCH farther along if we didn't reward rich drones who didn't squander it by sending Tesla Roadsters to the orbit of Mars, Also, NASA was a socialist govt endeavor, as was everything we got from it, from ICs to cellphones, to the Internet. Big Pharma would make what people need, instead of what they profit from the most, if they were controlled by the People.
Also in your, society, if my job is to clean floors, do I get the same amount of "work hour credits" as the guy runs some huge factory or invents new stuff? If yes, it sucks. If not, we are not economically equal.
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We are not equal in education, but in a Socialist society you would always have the chance to continue your schooling for free and apply for better more interesting work. But ALL our families have the same needs and the right to have those needs met, whether the parents are geniuses or not. That is why we must be paid equally!!
Also, am I free to leave your country and go and live and make money somewhere else or will I get killed for even thinking about it?
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Who says there will even BE other countries? Socialism may well finally take over the world. Then where will criminals like you run to? You may well be prevented from leaving. On the other hand the People may feel it is irrelevant if you leave, as long as you cannot take any of OUR wealth with you. Why would we want someone who doesn't want to benefit our society? Now if they were a doctor or scientist we might force them to train twenty or thirty others to their level of expertise before they would be allowed to leave.
Another thing, don't you think that when single government wants to manage (and has to based on your words) manage EVERYTHING there will always be some miss management?
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Not unless the People permit it. If it violates the People's will they will kill or imprison them. If they don't then the People deserve to be enslaved till they rise up.
Please, wake up, read up on history, read just the animal farm! You are describing animal farm almost word for word. You know that it is description of USRR, right?
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Do you even know who George Orwell was? His real name was Eric Arthur Blair. He was an ardent lifelong Socialist in the UK!! He wrote 1984 and Animal Farm as a protest and warning against the phony false un-democratic un-socialism of Stalinism.
I hope you will never have a chance to realise your dream dude. You are evil
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No, I'm good. Your distortion of the REAL truth is what is evil.
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@ravenousfire7798
There is no magical source of rights for humans, no gods, no natural laws, except other humans. ONLY humans grant rights to one another by promising to desist from ever opposing your rightful actions, and/or promising to protect them. Without that only the Law of Nature is in effect, that being dog eat dog, the War of Nature, Survival of the most Vicious. Without our Social Contract you might be killed and your property stolen and your women taken and raped by anyone. You might be attacked and eaten by predators or your body ravaged by accident or diseases we know how to treat. The ultimate source of all rights is the Majority Democracy, and the ultimate source of that power is the Social Contract. The Social Contract is that you can expect protection by our group from the war of nature only if you agree to do what the Majority wants from you in return. In other words you pay whatever we all think you owe us to sustain our society in its state of civilization by which you and all of us benefit. That can include caring for others less able, just as we would care for you if you were unfortunate. Your rights to our help and protection, in other words, include the obligations that we demand of you.
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@Qrzychu92
when I was talking about starving people, I didn't say anything about rich people - it was all normal redistribution as you would call it. Police came to take all the food that farms produces. If they found out that you fed your kids with that food, you were shot dead because that food is not yours - it belongs to everyone. To feed your children you had to wait until someone decides that it your turn to get "free food" - which it was almost never enough because they killed all people that were good at farming - the same thing is happening in Africa right now - they killing white farmers and giving the land to black guys. Still sounds like paradise? This happened, it does not matter if you will call it socialism or something else.
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That was NOT democratic socialism, dumbass.
No, technologies are meaningless without application. Right now we know how to make cold fusion, but it is too hard for us to build working reactor.
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I'm a physicist. Cold fusion is a stupid fraud. No, we do NOT know how to do that.
We know how to make Warp drive for spaceships - Einstein made it possible.
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No we do not, idiot.
As for jobs, you do realize that not everyone is capable of the same things, no matter of how long and hard they work, right? And why would I want to get "better job" if there is not such thing as "better job", just harder job? If I mop floors and can do all the things that guys running factories do, without the responsibillity and stress, why would I want to change my job?
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If you can't then you can't, but your family still deserves the same care and opportunity as everyone else. That should be ENFORCED!!
I don't want to talk to you any longer - we should stop when you wrote that you are more than OK with killing people for doing anything in opposition to your system.
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You're a moron. ALL societies kill people who resist arrest if they steal and interfere with the rights of others.
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@pearcake
That's what we do now, they're called laws, and you go to prison for violating them.
Selfish thieves go to prison. As for those who don't want to work, better to let people run around in the society till they get real hungry and then they recall they are supposed to get a job. This society spends almost nothing trying to stop drugs, if we really wanted to, we could, easily. You lock the borders and execute anyone found with drugs. They get the message fairly quick, but drugs are only a problem when people have to steal to afford them. Make them cheap or free and see what happens. If we see someone fucked up we lock them up long enough to get clean. Sooner or later they figure out how not to get fucked up to the degree that we notice them. It's just a form of training. In time, drugs lose popularity as people get tired of them, and tired of being hauled in and caged. Or we just let ODs die. Either their relatives will get tired of them, or take them to rehab cages for us.
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@nicwelch
There is NO such thing as "natural rights". You ONLY have rights because other people have given you, and themselves, those same rights by agreeing to protect you, for a price. The world IS ruled by the majority. Get used to it. Without the majority, the biggest gang, to protect you, you would be subject to the only true state of nature, kill or be killed, the war of nature, the strongest win out. Gangs would rob you, rape your wife and daughters, and torture you to death, or make you their butt-slave in chains. You would be stuck living under animalistic law. But if you join the democratic collective, and seek protection, you have to surrender whatever the majority want for the privilege of their protection. And you have to follow their laws, or else they cage you, kill you, or toss you out to the predator gangs and no longer protect you. This is called the Social Contract. Look it up. You obey the democracy, or you go outlaw and take your chances. Better learn to hide real good. And if you try to join some other gang, then you better hope they are democratic or else you again wind up as a cuckolded butt-slave to the warlord king, or dead. THAT'S the Law of Nature! The ONLY way out of the Law of Nature is to join the biggest democratic gang and OBEY them. and you had better be fucking GRATEFUL!! The portion of the population who don't want to obey will kill each other, they are criminals, and being with them is like being in prison! You don't DARE turn your back, NOT EVER!!
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+Bojaxs Thorium like any other nuclear source, will cost waay more than wind and solar per kWhr. This is because it is high tech, and requires lots of expensive people we don't have to run them, causing further risk when commercial endeavors try to get by with less trained people, and because of the initial costs, and the delay in bringing them online, and because of the reprocessing of waste and fuel, and the costs of handling the much lesser weight of waste but much hotter waste, radioactively speaking. Every nuclear power station we have EVER had has cost two to three times or MORE the price it was supposed to, and averaged over kW-hrs produced is much more expensive than wind is already, and more than solar will be shortly because its price is falling so rapidly. In addition it locks us into buying power from rich guys some more, which is something we'd all like to get away from and have our own power in our own backyard or neighborhood. We will have no choice shortly, the fossil is getting more expensive and harder to get, as world demand increases and supply begins to tank. Also, the planet won't handle much more of this. We will be better off for the next thousand years plus if we learn to curb our appetites and judiciously use what we can get by wind, solar, biomass, geothermal, insulation, higher efficiency, re-organization of society to use less fuel, and the use of more good sense regarding what we actually need to get by and still have a technological civilization. We need to learn to manage our energy appetites better and learn how to make due with what the earth gives us willingly.
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***** France has some of the most outdated dangerous reactors, even the French are looking to shut them down because they have found that wind is now cheaper.
No one needs to be a "hunter gatherer", that is no longer even possible as it takes too much acreage per person, but permaculture home, vertical and and community gardening, solarizing and annualized geothermally stored heat gain for bermed and insulated homes, and re-organizing society so that people work close to home, these can permit a technological society that runs on very little energy.
No one has to "return to the trees" or any such thing. What we now know how to do technically cannot be unlearned. We are now able to live a sustainable organized frugal life and still have the best advantages of our technology. We only need organize it to use much less energy and we can have virtually the same advantages, we just won't be able to be stupid anymore.
Our homes can heat and cool themselves, easily. Any physicist knows how. We do NOT need to commute 100 miles to work anymore.
We do NOT have to leave all the street lights on all night anymore if nobody is there. We do NOT have to regard the capacity to flip a switch and command nature to be other than it is merely to show off our power. We are better than that. We can wait to do laundry till the sun shines and the wind blows, merely by planning ahead a bit. We can plan what we need to eat instead of running to the store 5 miles away in a two-ton vehicle for two items.
We can have computer sign-up for items and have them delivered to everyone on our block several times a day. We can wear warmer clothes if need be. We can bury our homes in the ground and insulate them. We can insulate the ground around our homes to allow natural geologic thermoclines to rise to meet our needs for warmth. We can catch all the rain and decide for ourselves where it should go or be stored.
We can live in communities immune to forest fires because the forest is elsewhere and we have made the space between our homes a small food forest of trellises and nut and berry crops. We can raise each other's chickens and give them our scraps.
We can have workshops shared by the community to make all the things we want and only have raw materials delivered. We can keep warehouses of things we don't use for anyone else who wants them. We can recycle everything we use.
All these ideas and many more can make the earth a paradise and use very little energy to do it. There is no reason to continue each one of us being stupidly independent and wasteful, when we can need and help one another. The politics of the waste we have been indulging in are mostly the politics of loneliness and greed born of pig-ignorant resentment. We can do away with that. Most of what people don't want to give up is their fear and loneliness, because they are afraid they're the only one.
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We exist. That is obvious. The evidence is that we can SEE it. That someone had to make us is not something that is seen or witnessed, so there is NO evidence for that AT ALL.. We exist by being aware because being aware is the only way existence is possible. What would it even mean to pretend something could exist without an awareness witnessing it? In what sense would its existence BE REAL? It wouldn't. And non-existence can't exist because it is non-existence, what we call impossible. Therefore only existence is possible, and only by means of and within an awareness. Atoms, yes, big-bang, okay maybe, chemistry, sure, physics and energy, by all means, Darwin, of course. But it all happens BY MEANS of awareness and exists AS A PART of the existence of that awareness, because nothing else is possible. Non-existence, because it IS non-existence, is impossible. We exist because we can't do anything else or we wouldn't be WE. If that's too anthropic for you, too bad. It happens to be true because nothing else can be.
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Darckense Onoda That's why we ask the victim what was done to them, we don't trust the criminal, conflict of interest you see. You think the victim has a conflict of interest as well? Fine, then we kill whoever started the trouble and violence, again, the criminal. We have victims call for our help, and we do not come out and help criminals do criminal acts. Who is to decide what is fair? All of us, and that is what protects us from crime, that we are the biggest gang, The world operates on the law of the jungle. But first corollary to that law is that you can gang up on nature and everyone else in order to win. If you seriously think there is an argument to be made for letting criminals decide whether they are guilty, then I have a oddly knotted rope to show you and to see how it fits.You can't let your would be killer decide whether you should die for protecting yourself, You simply kill them for asking such a stupid question. The outgroup has the right to think what it wants, and to talk about it, but had better keep its fucking hands to itself or it won't exist. But all violent arguments finally come down to the will of the majority, because finally, at long last, the majority will stop arguing with you, they will stop bothering to even talk to you, stop even listening to you, and then they will either imprison you or kill you. If you're sane you'll live with it, If not, then you'll die with it,
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Wandering Recluse No, it'll happen. Used to be that false accusations weren't punished, now they are. Used to be that slander wasn't punished, now it is. Used to be that criminal threats not carried out were not punishable, now they are. Nobody should have to put up with some clown claiming you were going to hell or some such place when that clown could not possibly know that. It amounts to a cosmic threat. Someday sooner than you think people will not be allowed to connive against another. It simply won't be allowed. Someday cell phone companies won't be able to charge one person differently than another and they will have to conform their rates to consumer standards rather than trying to get each of us alone and gouge us, and we will put them in prison or take their money away if they do. Someday prices for things will be standardized and people who try to charge more than something is worth will be forced to conform their prices. Someday people who claim there is a gawd and they know what that gawd wants will be forced to prove it or shut up, and be prosecuted for fraud on the public if they do not. Someday email spammers will have to pay you $20 right out of their bank account for each and every violation of a do-not-email request, and a nationwide clearing house will automatically deduct it from their account and pay it to yours. Someday people who play costly pranks will go to prison. Someday anyone convicted of false rape accusations will be forced to be a public sex slave for an amount of time. Someday no one will be able to evict you from where you live, not ever, it's yours for life no matter what. Someday no one will be able to pay you less than your work is worth, and they won't be able to make money without doing legitimate work like the rest of us. All these and many more are the promises of Socialism. Vote Socialist!!
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What horseshit. That's all unrelated to the problem of free will. Prediction is entirely unrelated to the problem of free will. It wouldn't matter if we knew everything or nothing, what we do is what we were always going to do because all real outcomes are unary, there is only one future, and whatever one you wind up in, that was the one that was always going to happen for you. This is also why QM uncertainty gives us no help either. Whatever happens, it was always going to happen by definition, and whether it was random or not this is still true. Multiple possible futures are not real, they are just ideas. And likewise, you are fully Determined because whatever you decide you were always going to decide, and for the same exact reasons. You can see this at work regarding "changing your mind". You don't change your mind, other circumstances do, and once changed you are no more able to change it back on a whim than you were to change it before it changed on its own. We do NOT think our own thoughts, rather our thoughts think US!! If you cannot change even the tiniest thing you truly believe, without lying and just claiming you did, then in what sense do you have any "free will"?? The thing people never get is that the very definition of the Self is that which the Self cannot change, it can't change itself. Everything that changes the Self is Other, "outside" the Self, even later cogitation that causes us to change our mind is a mental process we have no control over. They operate on their own. We change each other, but even then, we can't help doing it to each other, what we say and do is beyond any control, but we do not and cannot change ourselves. This is the secret definition of Self and Others. If we could decide what we think we could decide to think we were somewhere much nicer than here, and if we could decide to believe that we would believe it beyond any contradiction, and then while we were in our other psychotic world of imagination we might die or be harmed, and we wouldn't know it. This life is a movie, a thrill ride, an adventure to assuage the inherent boredom implicit in infinity.. Enjoy the ride!
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***** I have nothing against nuclear, except for its cost. If someone could show me that it could be cheaper I would be interested. But as a physicist I know all about the cost overruns, overt and hidden, in the nuclear industry. And we would also have to have reputable proofs that they can be safe. I have heard claims about the latest generation of reactors, but I have not seen anyone I respect verify those claims. Every generation of reactors we have had in the past was supposed to be safe enough, but often were not. The only remaining problem with nuclear is fuel into the future. If we come to rely on it will we find ourselves looking at peak fuel crisis for nuclear fuel as well at some point? If so, why not try to learn to get by on what the sun can give us, this time for good? Save a step. go solar. If we need satellite solar systems, okay. If we can find that we can make everything more efficient and get by with ground-based solar, so much the better. Thorium is made to sound wonderful, but these are the same guys who promised us "power too cheap to meter" with uranium. I would rather not trust the out-of-work engineers of the nuclear industry to tell us the truth about thorium. It makes some very dangerous proliferation-wise. and some very hot waste, radiation-wise. A lot hotter than you might want cruising your roads. And a lot more of a security problem in a time of terrorism than we might wish to risk. Solar and wind can give us enough electricity to run our intermittent tools and appliances, LED lighting, and computers/telecommunications. We actually don't need more than that to have a nice technological life. We can dry our clothes on a wind-driven clothes-fluffer-dryer without any power. We can wash our clothes with soak tubs with manual agitators. We do not need dishwashers, they don't do shit anyway. We can superinsulate our freezers for food, orient them top-opening, and run them on a tenth as much. We can live close to work. We can go the hell to bed at night when it's dark. We can re-organize our society to be more sensible.
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***** As I told you, the French are looking at replacing their reactors NOT with newer reactors, but with much cheaper wind power. The cost is the chief problem, either initial cost and years to come online, or later to keep their waste safe. With muslim fanatics roving around France now, they don't want the security problem. Why would reactors require CCS? They don't make CO2? Second, the allegation that some type of new reactor eats waste has NOT yet been shown with evidence. Until we see that work, I think we can give nuclear a big wait and see. No one NEEDS or even WANTS your "high energy society", most people when surveyed would rather live in a small quiet town or semi-rural neighborhood with shops and quiet roads and beautiful vistas and a self-heating home and use only a little electricity, and garden and raise some chickens, and be able to bicycle to work. Only teenagers imagine they need a hot car to get laid because they haven't got laid yet. The rest of us are rather bored with the whole big truck/muscle car bullshit, and we'd rather our teens stay out of trouble. People want good mass transit everywhere. They are tired of sitting in gridlock on a freeway idling a 4000 pound vehicle for an hour each way. Every survey of people's wants tells a waaaay different story than the one you imagine.
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***** No, it cost WAAAY more when they were blowing up all the time and developing problems and leaks, you know, before those awful "safety systems". Don't be an idiot. The ONLY people who tally up even salt reactors as cheaper are their devoted PROMOTERS!!! See a problem here? There are a cadre of OUT OF WORK nuclear engineers who just don't want to retrain, and they're pissed off that they are stuck in nuclear. They keep trying to get people to build reactors by telling now well-known LIES about them, but every reactor that has ever been operated has bankrupted its owners and operators!! Solar is already cheaper than methane in the public market, largely because it eliminates the cost of a massive grid when it is distributed over people's roofs, and that's a cost nuclear advocates NEVER add into THEIR costs. And wind in Texas is now cheaper power than COAL, proven. And these two are only getting cheaper by the minute at a rate that makes the builders of massive power plants shudder!! You "have(ing) your doubts" is due to ignorance. And, there is NO eliminating long term waste from nuclear, so they lose before they begin on your criteria.
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***** Tough shit, that's what a society addicted to fossil has to do to get off it. The established infrastructure difference must between them must be compensated for by government incentives to renewables and disincentives to fossil.
And no, you don't need the Sahara to have decent solar, Germany is proving that, and they have sunlight equivalent to Seattle!! And their wind is as good or better than most places. Did you know that China is now building more than three 2.5MW wind turbines per day., and Installed and running?
If you have enough renewables with microgrids in neighborhoods, and some storage in homes and electric cars, you don't need as much grid, huge savings in costs. I've done papers on this, I'm a physicist, and it all works, IF we scale down our demands from wants to actual needs.
And as time goes on, and more infrastructure is established and accumulates, we WILL have enough to squander once again.
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***** Well, you must be living in la-la land rather than the planet I know and the Germany I'm aware of. They seem to be doing just fine. And no, when homes and buildings are retrofitted with south-facing windows, thermal mass storage, and superinsulation, the passivhaus works fine. And no, the grid to send it all back to Germany would have been more than the solar advantage. In terms of Watts per square meter, Germany is only 25% lower than Spain. And that benefit would be lost in transmission to heat. Many people have the notion that higher latitudes don't receive as much sun, and that is true on the ground. But the sun is putting out just as much, it's just that the ground is at a shallower angle so it is spread over more area and thus less Watts per square meter is received by the ground. But if you tilt your PV panels to be orthogonal to the sun's rays, then the efficiency comes right back. They even work at the south pole station, quite well. The vast cost of initial investment for grid and its maintenance, man-hours, highway maintenance, vehicle maintenance, it all adds up miserably to make your assertion a lie.
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***** Yes, mine too, my family is from Duesseldorf.
But during the infrastructure construction phase for sufficient renewables, AND the shutting down of nuclear plants, and they voted for this going in with their eyes open, the costs would be greater. But once established and constructed the costs will fall dramatically.
And if you more fairly included costs to the environment in carbon removal for the fossil they WERE using, the cost is comparable.
Also, no no, you have it wrong, tilting the panels to follow the sun eliminates cosine losses. The only losses higher latitudes have is atmospheric, because the sun's rays traverse more atmosphere at the more shallow angle to the ground of the daytime sun.
And no, car charging is then easier to implement, by building charging stations beneath roadside PV clusters, without needing any grid.
Yes, urban dwellers will need to modify their cities somewhat, but urban dwellers also have the advantage that high rise housing is much easier to heat and cool, by Galileo's Law of Proportions, they have the least exterior area per interior volume contained. And the vast arrays of glass on the sun side of buildings can be used as Trombe solar heat walls, and for PV simultaneously, so that with little modification they can heat and cool themselves. Look at what Amory Lovins' team did with the Empire State Building, making it virtually self-heating and cooling.
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***** Yes, but embodied energy means we waste most of what we use that for, so lets mandate standardized re-usable containers, and mandate the re-sale of all items, and not permit their disposal and require the person who doesn't want them to offer them to others in a common space, like a recycle yard. This HAS to be govt mandated, we're headed for 3 more degrees C this century, and twice that the next. Whether people know it yet or not, this IS indeed an emergency situation. This is NOT a matter of personal choice as to lifestyle, This is what we MUST do. Aeronautical experts have already said that the high prices of air travel being more than most now are willing to spend is not the fault of the airlines, but the problem of the cost of fuel and equipment. They also say that this will be the last generation for a while for the average person to be able to fly on jets. Better go with Elon Musk's ideas for transport. I don't care whether people "would like" a vacation in the south of France or Tuscany. They will find that it is soon out of range for most of them. Prices will see to that as we are forced to put more tariffs on carbon fuels. We don't have to go vegetarian, we can eat fish and poultry, those are not much less efficient at converting grain than we are. But your meat consumption WILL fall, prices will see to that. Cars will also have to go, they consume way too much, as MacKay showed you. Instead of 10,000 kWs a two or three wheeled ultralight <100kg battery vehicle with a thin aerodynamic weather shell can do 30-40 mph on less than 600 or 800 Watts, have a range of 50 miles, and it can be charged from home with a few solar panels in a few hours. If mass produced as a hobby kit, each family can own several. Gives a new meaning to "I can't drive 65!!", don't it? That sort of thing can be done right away and in only a few years we have the monkey off our backs. Then, if we get PRISM or another scheme working, or fusion, then we can do more, but humans really need to grow up about this stuff, and this is a way to achieve that. They have to learn how to build vehicles and generate power, they will feel and be more independent, and they free themselves of some huge monkeys on their backs that have been strangling this economy, If the govt put us on a war-time footing for the production of solar panels and wind turbines, we might not have to suffer hardly at all, but we would still have to learn to live a slightly different and more conscious way.
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***** There is that, but two things: We need to decide with something potentially dangerous, and that's a democracy sort of thing, even renewables have that, it just doesn't have to be as careful because those aren't dangerous, AND, it isn't THOSE costs I was worried about, more like nuclear transport, security, mining, waste management and cleanup of decommissioned reactors, as well as the day to day costs of the expertise required to run them safely, and then there are govt subsidies and liability insurance costs born by government.. Add those all together and you wind up with a much higher cost than the cost on your energy bill, and much higher than renewables. The Chinese changed several of their reactor plans and are now increasing renwables much faster than coal and nuclear put together. Part of this is due to being unable to breathe in Beijing and several other industrial cities. The rest of it is falling costs for wind and solar. Russia is peculiar, there are lots of entrenched oil interests in the former Politburo families that are now the Russian Mafia, and that, just like the actions of our rich to protect their investments, is probably behind their failure, but Russia is nearly a 3rd world economy lately anyway. It continues to amaze analysts how the Russians keep their space agency going, and it is believed that without American help they couldn't. The Saudis are now building Mazdar, the solar city, and they are experimenting with several giant solar thermal plants that are floating islands. They haven't gone solar big time yet, I think they are worried about frightening the west into believing they are running dry, and probably won't till they actually start to run dry on oil, which analysts say is any time now, some Saudis have privately said that their oil reserves are mostly salt water, saline intrusion.
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***** It's not a matter of being some kind of renewables authoritarian, but about saving the planet and humankind. If I'm authoritarian about that, so what? Carbon has to be stopped, and I'll accept anything that works, but things that are more expensive will be slower to expand because we can't afford them as well. As for fossil getting less subsidy than renewables, maybe that is true, but that is only because now that they have the subsidy they produce more of it because they bought their equipment base with the subsidies and they've stolen the market. If renewables had received as much total subsidy historically to bring them to a parity of subsidy over time, then I'm sure there would be even more solar, and less subsidy per kWhr for renewables as well. Since the subsidy pays for the equipment investment, if renewables had the same degree of investment, such as the huge grid and highway system enjoyed by coal and oil, then I'm sure it would have spread all over. This stuff is hard to gauge, but it seems true. And people seldom think of it that way. The whole society is structured around fossil and we're so used to it we think it's normal, so ask yourself what would a society built around renewables look like? High speed trains, or capsules, electric velomobile and other ultralight electric bicycle and tricycle lanes as superhighways? Much less grid and more localized power generation from wind and solar? More widely spaced homes and people growing most of their own food by backyard permaculture and vertical gardening in agrarian cul-de-sacs serviced bicycle lanes and by delivery drones and helicopter EMS? Transport of goods by tubes to each neighborhood? No more strip mines for coal or mountaintop removal, recycling all materials? Neighborhood aluminum re-casting using solar furnaces? Local reuse of benign reformable plastics like HDPE? Huge solar and windpowered clothes dryers serving the whole block? All shopping done by computer? Neighborhood solar and wind projects? Things could be quite different.
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***** Amory Lovins is FAR more optimistic than I am about it, he thinks the free market can do all this, and I doubt that very much. I think finally he will run into the last major bank of entrenched investors and they won't budge because it means they won't be rich anymore. And it won't matter if the sheeple vote guys out of office, because the climate will finally frighten everyone into doing the right thing, just maybe too late to even HAVE a next century. Long about the latter part of this century when the great American breadbasket becomes a dust bowl for the third year straight people will start clamoring for their elected guys to "DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!", and then the experts will tell them what they should have done, and they may try to do it all waaay too late. You see, the problem is, that even if we stopped emitting carbon right now, totally, the warming would continue for a century or more, and that might be enough to destroy most of the food crops of the world. You can't just move all food production north, and the equatorial nations will be one big refugee camp, starving and loading guns. Amory deals with the corporate youngsters and those whose bread comes from keeping up with the times, but he has yet to make inroads among the filthy rich, the ones who already "got theirs" and want to keep collecting on old investments and enjoying expensive cars and mansions and vacations till they croak. So for now it actually SEEMS like his way can be successful, so let's just wait and see, shall we? I won't be around, so all I can do is warn you and leave.
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***** No, it doesn't quite work that way, the state changes forbid it. Also, cooling by the refrigeration required is very energy intensive. And that requires lots of waste heat that cannot be concentrated enough to continue the process without even more energy. It gets crazy trying to cogenerate that way. The best form is vacuum distillation, and even it requires lots of power per Liter. After that comes RO, and that takes slightly more. I don't know why you keep pretending Lovins wants this "energy poverty" like you imagine I do. He's a big champion of keeping the same moronic standard of living and brute forcing it with lots of wind and solar, and he likes some nuclear too. He's convinced capitalism can do it all, and I'm not. He's a very bright guy, but not of the same tack as me. I don't even think my approach is "energy poverty", just a more ordered society where we do the same things, but very efficiently using renewables. And the scarcity you fear is NOT artificial, it's going to be VERY real fairly shortly.
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I can tell you don't really know a thing about solar. Any home can be made to heat and cool itself. All it takes is more south-facing glass, and 4" exterior superinsulation. Combine that with ventilation into a pipe system under the yard or an insulation skirt on the ground around its perimeter. For homes with few windows on the south, use solar walls or Trombe walls, masonry with glass over it to absorb heat. If you once upgrade the houses you will never need power plants or to replace them every thirty years. I don't know where you get the notion that wind is "inefficient". Efficiency is irrelevant, there are no fuel costs. Only the cost of installation is important, and if you amortize that over its life it pays off its cost in two years AND it's CO2 cost to make it in LESS time than that, and they last thirty+ years, more with careful rebuilding. Solar photovoltaic is "inefficient" in converting light to electrical energy, but since it is free that is also irrelevant. News for you, we won't have fusion, probably not till end of century, well too late to do anything about climate change and vanishing oil. The calculations for making a home solar are trivial physics, I'm a physicist. All you have to do is count BTUs supplied and lost through various interfaces per square area. And tall residential buildings are even easier to make solar, because they have a lot of open south wall and insulating them costs much less per contained volume. It is not only possible, it's trivial, and not only that, we will HAVE NO CHOICE!
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captain swagworth I've read all their stuff, and it all sounds boyishly over-optimistic, just like all that kind of stuff always reads. The reason they ARE poorly funded is because it is HORRIBLY expensive, and also we don't know for sure we can even do it. The time frame is still totally wrong to solve our climate or energy problems. Even if ITER works and the DEMO, it will take 50-75 YEARS to build the number of these that we would need, and the cost could be far better spent on solar and wind, and MUCH more effectively. You're a physicist, that's nice, I'm a OLD physicist, with a lot more experience. All homes and their heating systems amortize out at about 25-30 years, meaning they require a capitol outlay or replacement every generation. If we begin retrofitting homes for passive solar instead, and installing the wind and PV now, progressively, we will be done before the time frame to even BEGIN any major fusion plants. Fusion might be nice, but it's uncertain,. too late, and probably not even needed to get us the kind of world we want in the short run. In the long run, it's a grand scheme, but for now, only a scheme. I would definitely better fund it, but only if we were spending what we should on wind and solar, in case what I said turns out to be true.
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I don't believe there's such a thing as gay. Many other non-westernized cultures don't even recognize such a distinction, they just have sex with whoever attracts them, and usually that's some bisexual combo. I suspect homosexual was invented by western culture to shame people away from homosex because our puritanical society divided men and women and girls and boys into two isolated groups, so that same-sex was their only sexual opportunity, which defeated the strictures on heterosex.
I also suspect the "in love" concept as being a self-deception, a fraud intended to justify sex over and against puritanism in order to permit people to breed just enough to sustain population. When you're deprived of sex in your young life, you want at least one sex partner, because you're told that you can't have any. So you willingly settle for one, and believe me, most people settle for the first source of sex who finds them sufficiently acceptable to violate antisex mores with. To keep your one sexual outlet you do your best to convince yourself that you can stand this other person being your only outlet for a lifetime, fearing that may be all you get. This gets converted into a delusion of extraordinary infatuational "love". Actually you're perfectly capable of loving many partners as much as your one first partner, and in the same way, but the love myth makes you feel that you can't admit that your "in love"-ness was just a lie you told yourself.
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Reverend Robert Ricker
All bullshit. There is NO "Natural Health Industry", they are all liars and scammers too. And they have no power to take down videos anywhere!! And YouTube never did, you're bamboozled by your own FE friends spewing paranoid delusions of their own!! Your "credentials" are phony. I don't need any email copies of your phony baloney diploma from your diploma mill. You "refuse to be controlled" by any denomination that would throw your ass out if you started spewing FE nonsense!! Yup, you're a garage pastor alright.
Did you build yourself a pulpit in your garage, pastor? Will it hold all your flock, you know, your dog, your kitty cat, and the two FE morons from down the street who listen to you? Are they still unemployed or work at Mickey-D's? You even have a poor grasp of the bullshit creationist talking points, you know nothing about Science or Evolution, you keep asking the old debunked questions. You don't even know WHAT the big bang was or wasn't, you imagine Evolution has something to do with random chance, it doesn't. You're down to bullshit junkyard tornado analogies, when atoms and molecules DO self-assemble!! You probably think that intelligence can only come from intelligence, when that was debunked by Boltzman, Von Neumann and Shannon, three different ways!!
You blabber about some "creator" that NO one ever saw or saw do anything EVER!! And then you blubber "I'll pray for you", the religious version of fuck you, well, fuck you too, we're coming after your kind, and when we're done, shit like you will all be in work camps and forbidden to speak and threaten people anymore. There WILL come a time when lying, threatening people with imaginary hell, and pretending to know god, will be felonies equivalent to fraud on the public, intimidation, and assault.
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No, it's a fact. I'm NOT saying that "nobody knows" and therefore my supposition is correct. THAT WOULD be an "argument from ignorance". I'm saying simply that no government so far has actually been Socialism, as I define it, which I can readily describe to you without any hairy-fairy pipe-dreams. And my form requires NO modification of the human character. You must simply make it so terrifying to cheat that nobody dares even think of doing it. Then cooperation grows as an ethic among a people who sees that it works. I know EXACTLY what strict laws are required by a Socialist government of the People in order to meet the definition of a Socialism. It has never before been tried by my definition, and I can be highly specific about what it requires. It has not even ever before been tried by the political science definition either, which is available in textbooks. Centrally controlled production of food was a disaster in the former USSR because it was corrupt from top to bottom and didn't enforce severe consequences on dissidents and subversives. The USSR was NOT Socialist, the Politburo families were a rich elite who stole lots of the production and sold it abroad to feed their craving for luxuries. Tanzania was a corrupt dictatorship with no interest in the people at all. When in WW II England absolutely forced farmers to grow more crops and their own vegetables for local consumption with harsh threats of confiscation of farms, the people did it just fine, producing in one year nearly twice the food they had produced the previous year. Control works, if it is absolute and corruption is weeded out by multiple layered investigation, confiscation, and torture and death penalties for defrauding the People. None of the events you cited was Socialism. Socialism is NOT theft, it cannot BE theft, it is stealing back what was stolen by the rich. You are a capitalist liar, you would be put to work in a work camp for spewing that nonsense. The robber doesn't GET to complain about having to return what he has stolen!!
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No, that's an out and out lie. You're the kind of shitty little devious capitalist liar who will say absolutely anything to disparage Socialism. Socialism has NEVER been tried, NO supposed socialism ever guaranteed homes for all, NO supposed socialism ever guaranteed equal wage per hour for all, NO supposed socialism ever guaranteed free health care for all, etc. If they did not do those things then they WERE NOT actual Socialism!!! Your merry little tale is nothing but paranoid blabber with NO principle, NO evidence, NO content at ALL!! Socialism has NEVER BEEN TRIED!! Corrupt dictators do NOT institute socialism!! Africans are uneducated, they don't have the savvy to grasp what they are getting. It takes an educated populace to force true Socialism, unless it is handed to them and imposed. The Brits did what they needed to do to feed everyone. They are a basically decent society that feels obligation to do what is needed to meet the real needs of the People. They not only carried that through in war, but for several years afterword to feed the rest of Europe!! You have been brainwashed with capitalist lies, you have no ability to discern their falsehoods. You were raised with a terror of collectivism bred into you by propaganda paid for by the rich!! They spent a fortune brainwashing people like you!!
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I have defined the prerequisites for TRUE Socialism. NO marketeer is "liberal". People know what is unfair. THEY decide what is evil. They all know it, they are just waiting for the chance to enact the measures to stop it! You "demonstrated" NOTHING. All you did was PRETEND that dictatorships and greedy elitist oligarchies were "socialism", when they NEVER met MY prerequisites. We haven't got a TRUE Socialism yet on this planet, but this planet is small, and time is long. All you've got is veiled attempts at insult, "hysterical screeching" "credibility" "shrieking and complaining", etc. You got nuthin'.
Painful for me? I'm a retired physicist, I won't live to see the planet go Socialist, but it will, baby, oh it will!!
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You assign enough people to it and enough advanced equipment so that it isn't that hard. Or else you divide unpleasant jobs among everyone equally, each block gets to drive the garbage truck to the next block, picking up that block's garbage along the way. It is assigned by day. People with no education need work to live. Eating is an incentive. The jobs that are on the board that the People want done are the only way to get a meal ticket or buy groceries, otherwise they starve. This has always been so. Encouragement, incentive, when it finally comes down to it, is starvation. Housing is free, it's yours forever, as is health care, transport, a certain amount of power, telecom, but if you refuse to work no one is allowed to give you food, on pain of torture.
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Now you're repeating yourself, trying to get an answer you can use against me. Futile. Another way of hiding behind your question, the oldest dishonesty around. Read my answer for comprehension this time, instead of phrase-mining for your net come-back.
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You assign enough people to it and enough advanced equipment so that it isn't that hard. Or else you divide unpleasant jobs among everyone equally, each block gets to drive the garbage truck to the next block, picking up that block's garbage along the way. It is assigned by day. People with no education need work to live. Eating is an incentive. The jobs that are on the board that the People want done are the only way to get a meal ticket or buy groceries, otherwise they starve. This has always been so. Encouragement, incentive, when it finally comes down to it, is starvation. Housing is free, it's yours forever, as is health care, transport, a certain amount of power, telecom, but if you refuse to work no one is allowed to give you food, on pain of torture.
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No, it doesn't need to be centralized. Jobs are performed close to home, so the local community decides what they want to pay to have done. The features of the requirement to work are universal truths, they don't depend on the economic system. If people don't work, they don't get food, been true since the paleolithic. Why did you imagine otherwise? Did you imagine I was some fool who thought everything could be FREE, FREE, FREE, like some SJW bozo? The difference between capitalism and socialism is that there are no rich and there are no poor, and the formerly rich starve if they don't work just like anyone else. I have no problem with starving people, and if someone interferes with that righteous process they DESERVE to be tortured. It's subversive of the Socialism. That's how we got the rich, letting people not work!! No, the torture in capitalism is merely subtle and not specified. The "freedom" to sleep under a bridge in the rain, etc. People never know whether they will starve to death or whether they can rob someone else and get away with not working. This encourages crime and unfairness. This is the heart of desperation. Better to know exactly what you must do to be secure and safe. You don't need monolithic states, you can have lots of communities that do all these same things. It's like a big tribe, you do your work or nobody feeds you. Pure? Not MY claim. There isn't any such thing. TRUE Socialism merely meets the requirements of the People, not any elite. Once again, you've blabbered a pile of brainwashed nonsense and imagined that you're intelligent. You're not.
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All a matter of degree. Europe is sociallized, more than socialist, but they are on the road. Yes,here, the upper 30% of the population seems to be hail and happy. They get to buy pretty much everything they want, but at the expense of the rest of the people. By the People, I mean the deprived, the victims of this theft, usually a majority in severely capitalist countries. You can stop blabbering about "the People" now, you only sound stupid. Many socialized medical systems in Europe either pay malpractice insurance from a fund, or strictly limit awards and judgments and use professional courts instead of economically angry juries. No, you have no "long lines" there. In the NHS you can get an appointment today or tomorrow, try that with US specialists, a month to two months out!! We need MORE physicans, time to take the quota off medical schools and force them to take all comers.And yes, the next thing that need to be stopped is private inequitable medical care. Take what is paid by the rich for that, with confiscatory taxes, and use it for the national health. I've seen the stats on migratory physicians, just as many US doctors go to Europe and socialized medical systems as come here imagining to make out like a bandit. The statistics deny that they come for the pay, usually electing to work in public health. New tits? Should be illegal except for restorative purposes. No government should subsidize unnecessary surgeries. If we have a problem with doctors leaving, we can alter our system of educational credentials to make it impossible for them to be apprised by another system. Or, as I said, make it impossible to take any wealth with them. We can also train more doctors, but at a less specialized course of study, or divide up the specialties differently, or train more specialized physician's assistants and surgeons specialized in only specific surgeries, like the NHS does. This has reduced "doctor flight" in recent years. We can also close the borders to doctors, under national security edicts, or force them to completely train a cadre of replacements before they are allowed to leave. We don't actually want greedy subversives, corrupts the national honor and character. We'll let them go and import immigrants who share our ideals.
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ALL systems, ALL governments, ALL that ever have been or ever will be, require their imposition by FORCE!! Humans are imperfect, but their lives can be MADE nearly fair and almost perfect by the imposition of LAW and ORDER!!
We can permit breast alterations, but only at home by amateur untrained personnel, that should make them unpopular quite quickly!!!
Zimbabwe isn't socialist, don't you know that? They failed to institute it or confiscate land or wealth. Do YOU want to live in a country where they reuse needles? No wonder they come to the UK.
http://www.solidarity-us.org/node/4616
I have seen lots of doctors come here for the standard of living, and the level of medical technology, not so much for the pay. I know several doctors from the US who tried private practice and quit in disgust and moved to Europe where they work for government health services. The NHS is amazing, literally every person with a traumatic injury gets a CT scan. in the US that is maybe half. Standard of care far exceeds US standards. They intubate at the scene, we don't, they anaesthetize at the scene, we don't, they reduce pneumothorax at the scene, we seldom do. They have doctors on most of their ambulances in the cities. We do not!
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No, Socialism murdered no one. There has NEVER BEEN a fully Socialist government, and Europe has come closer than all others. The nations you cite were NOT socialist, they were oligarchic feudal capitalism. They did NOT do what a Socialism would do, they did what a greedy elite does in any kind of repressive society. They did NOT meet the People's needs, they weren't Democratic, the People were not guarantees the things they have a human right to, they were not paid equally for their hour of work, and they were subjugated by a rich elite in all of those cases. Their oligarchic masters merely CLAIMED they were socialist in order to deceive their people. And the USA gladly played along, our rich elite wanted to label them socialist when they actually weren't in order to scare OUR people away from socialism!! ALL societies require compulsion, the issue is to what end, fairness, or unfairness.
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Those are all different. A few former Soviet bloc nations are STILL Socialist and their people quite happy with it, like the best places in Europe. Nobody seems to know that, Americans especially. Vietnam is very happy with its government, their constitution was designed after the British government by Ho Chi Minh, who the US called "communist", but he was no more extreme than the British liberal PMs. He just wanted the greedy Europeans out of his country. The Vietnamese are the ones who ended the Pol Pot regime!! Cuba never had much of a chance against the US efforts to destroy them,, but they instituted urban farming and fed their people VERY will in spite of the US blockade. Also, they supplied doctors and hospitals to most of south America. They still do! Venezuela was NEVER socialist, Chavez and his cronies shipped all the nation's oil wealth offshore into unregulated Caribbean banks. I haven't researched the others. But in each case cited by the insane right-wing, there was NO socialism in place. Only dictatorship and underpayment of workers, and the dictator and his henchmen running off with the loot. If the right-wing couldn't find a "failed socialism" to point to, they would have to create one so they didn't look stupid.
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"tedius"? Why is it that people who can't think also can't spell worth a shit? Oh, yeah, that's why!
Political Analysis does NOT involve Marxian dialectic, that's old hat. ALL you have to do is get them to ask the questions: Why aren't I owed a share of the earth to live on, I was born here like everybody else??!! Why do I have to pay rent or mortgage, monthly tribute, to some asshole who was born just as squalling and stupid as I was in the same delivery room?? Why can't I be paid the same as anyone else, my family has the same needs!!?? Why can't I get govt paid healthcare, I can't work when I'm sick!!?? Why can't I get free education, I can't possibly do a decent job before I'm educated?? Why can't I get a decent retirement, I did my bit!?? Etc. Once people realize that they have the choice to gang up on and kill the rich in their sleep they want a machine gun!!! Venezuela is a feudal oligarchic capitalist dictatorship, quit trying to jam it in illegitimately as some kind of proxy "socialism" for your stupid right-wing nutbar strawman arguments!!!!
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Don't need to be alike, that's what Socialism is good for, TREATING them all alike in right to a decent life even THOUGH they are different, AND providing them with what they need when they need more than another. It's in jibe with "equal before the law" even though we know they are not equal in reality.
The ONLY "failed socialisms" around the world have been PHONY socialisms that were NOT socialisms but were controlled by rich fascist oligarchies who only CALLED themselves "socialist" to deceive their people!!
WHEREVER you permit private disparate wealth to exist and control society, you will find phony socialism, phony welfare, phony fairness, this is why the wealthy should be given ONE and ONLY ONE chance to divest their wealth to the People's Government, and if they do not they should be immediately shot through the head.
Look at socialism in Europe, for example, the more it is applied and developed socialistically, the more satisfaction quotient of the people for the government and society rises higher and higher!!!
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KiinGDolo If someone tries to take a gun away from you, and you're a police officer they're not stealing it to sell it, they want to kill you!! You CAN'T train a human to react calmly when their life is in danger, and they shouldn't even HAVE to, if they kill someone who it turns out later shouldn't have been killed, then they are still not to blame if they feared for their life. That's why it's not a good idea to make someone with a gun fear for their life, you might get shot!! We TRY to train cops to deal with situations, but that is the most extreme one, and we all know that we might well do the same thing, whatever our training. In case you don't know the law, a cop has exactly the same legal power of arrest as any citizen does, no more, no less. Instead, stupid ghetto punks and thugs must appreciate that nobody is going to think we should be gentle with them if they commit crimes of assault. As I said earlier, in my family's store if someone stole a box of cigars and pushed my elderly father down to escape, if we shot him DEAD, NOBODY WILL CARE, and the police will probably pat us on the back, NO MATTER WHAT HIS SKIN TONE WAS!! That's because he didn't MERELY steal, but assaulted someone. That's robbery, a felony. which term means deadly force can be used. And if you assault a cop, you SHOULD be killed. To my mind they should be killed on the spot!!
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Capitalism is efficient at funneling all a nation's wealth to a very few, and leaving its people publicly destitute. The improvement in living conditions in the west were NOT produced by capitalism, but IN SPITE of it. Finding a brand new untrammeled "unowned" continent full of timber and mineral and soil riches galore and taking it away from less able indigenous people by massacring them would allow ANY system of government to make it seem like it was the best thing since sliced bread, for SOME FEW. Any "serious economist" is either a rich bastard or a sycophant to rich bastards. Asking them if capitalism is good is the same as asking a wolf how sheep taste!! Making THEFT from victims by the rich and powerful illegal is a GOOD THING(tm). You don't seem to be defending "liberty" or "freedom" but instead LICENSE!!!
Freedom and liberty are ACTUALLY:
1) To own one's home by fiat of the communist people's government, without ANY fear of ANY kind of taxation of it, regulation upon it, or of eviction or confiscation!!!
2) To be guaranteed absolutely equal pay per hour of work for every worker. To be guaranteed a job or the state pays you a wage if they do not provide a job!!
3) To be protected from illicitly accumulated wealth and unfair economic leverages of the wealthy by ALL unearned wealth and speculation and all investment and usury being made illegal.
4) To be guaranteed health care, equal retirement wage as if working, equal disability wage as if working, telecom, power, police protection, fire protection, higher education, and public transportation, as a right of all citizens!
5) To be guaranteed an equal vote in all local government meetings, and be guaranteed that all government officials be shadowed and all their decisions signed off by examiners who examine
everything they do and report to the body politic about any devious actions.
6) All exorbitant wealth accumulated to be confiscated by the people's government for public works needs denied the people by the wealthy in the past.
Now THAT'S Freedom, Liberty, and Security!!
The ONLY reason this has never been tried is that the people have never managed to wrest the seat of power from the rich yet. The rich know that endgame IS THEIR END!!!
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Communists know MORE about how capitalism works than capitalists do!!! That's like telling an atheist that he just "doesn't know enough about the bible", it's desperately desperately ignorant of you!!! We KNOW the explanations, we simply disagree with them because of the vicious outcomes all capitalism produces! You assume everyone is a free and equal agent, they're NOT. You assume that everyone is free to bargain to get a good price, they AREN'T!! The way you describe capitalism it should result in everyone being equal with equal opportunities, and it DOESN'T!! WHEN it DOESN'T you blame the victims for being "lazy" when there are many totally accidental life circumstances that have the same result, and there is no proof anyone is "just being lazy" when they aren't and have instead been dealt a bad hand in life and are a victim of that. Wealth is produced by labor, end, full stop. It is NOT produced by "transactions", that's pure nonsense. Products do NOT come about by anything BUT human labor hours!! People can be criminally victimized by being forced to sign contracts as well, by need or circumstances, and you ignore that. It's as if you deny a person robbed with a gun was doing other than making a willing contract with the criminal that he pay not be shot!! It makes you obviously ignorant and brainwashed by the simpleton's capitalist brainwashing in the public schools!! Do you know who has spent billions pushing to get their way in school textbooks to get their little economic catechism of pseudo-voluntarism and capitalist incentive-investment-profit lie jammed into textbooks??? THE RICH!!! Great cadres of them!! Look it up!!
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Vladimir Komarov Sure, but when the uranium runs out? There are better ways, storage, in batteries, AND in the production of butanol and canola oil from cellulosic crops and rape seed, You can even run jet aircraft with canola, the military has done that already experimentally, a 727. Butanol is a direct substitute for gasoline, but there won't be a lot of it, which is why the rest needs to be solar and wind to charge batteries. And solar thermal power stations use molten salt as heat storage to run all night, they already do that in Spain.
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Vladimir Komarov More Koch bros lies. You didn't "disprove" anything. In fact you never presented any evidence at all except your posture. It is well proven that the sun doesn't NEED to shine all the time or in any given location to provide sufficient solar power. Wind, which is ALSO driven by the sun, complements it because wind tends to blow more when the sun is obscured. Combine that with a vast grid to redistribute power and both local and home storage of power and the math works out very well. And renewable solutions have a much LOWER environmental impact than strip-mining for Thorium or polluting streams reprocessing it, or endangering people and encouraging terrorism transporting it. Not to mention storing the waste. You intentionally ignore the fact that the math for 100% renewables proves it can be done and has been done, just because you would prefer nuclear, thinking it will enable you to burn all the energy you want without a care, as we do now, when that isn't true either. They are saying precisely the same lies about Thorium as they said about Uranium nuclear power, and that it will never run out and be too cheap to meter. And we KNOW what happened with that,. Why are you lying? Are you invested in the nuclear industry, or is someone paying you? And PS: Greenpeace isn't even reputable anymore. NREL and the solar physics community IS!!
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Vladimir Komarov Alright, if you're ant-Koch and anti-GOP then I'll believe you. But just saying you've disproved something is NOT disproving it. The scientists who have done all the numbers on solar panels and their life embodied energy, their composition and recyclability, have concluded that they are the safest way to obtain energy, as well as being lowest cost all things considered. This has been cited over and over. Solar panels are made in China NOT because they have worse chemical pollution but because it's cheaper. We DO manufacture PV panels here in the US, quite a large percentage in fact, they just don't compete well because of cost. If you're really worried about pollution and the environment, then consider not strip mining literally everywhere to get Thorium, because that's where it is, it is found in similar percentages in all clay sands literally everywhere. And it would take a LOT of strip mining to get enough. And while coal tailings have Thorium, they aren't just sitting around but have been reburied, per US mining laws, and would need to be stripped again and many tons removed and returned on our highways to and from processing plants to extract enough Thorium, more mass even than coal!. And anyway, the MOST efficient production of solar power is thermal solar using mirrors, not even involving a minute amount of rare earths. And thermal can be used at home as well, passive solar design, earth berming, superinsulation,south facing windows and the like, as well as water heating and superinsulated refrigeraton. We could even use 12 foot aluminized dishes and Stirling heat engines driving an alternator, which have been shown to supply nearly 1kWatt, which grows in importance if you don't need it for heating. And I repeat, wind is ALSO solar, and it works best of all, cheaper than coal in the midwest in a high-wind strip down the central plains of the country. You have lots in Ireland and Scotland as well.
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Religion is a con-game to control others to make them obey your hang-ups. The threat of hell and promise of hebbin is a manipulation, NOBODY CAN know such things. The people who wrote the bible were merely ISIS-equivalent criminals trying to scare their kids and frighten their neighbors and enemies. NOTHING in the bible is supported by extra-biblical sources. It's all the lies of propagandistic believers. NO evidence jesus even existed, the supposed disciples never had families who remembered them or death notices, they said their lines in the story and then fucking disappeared from all history.They were fictional characters. No evidence of any trial in the temple or execution by the Romans, and they recorded ALL the people they killed, they GLORIED in it!! NONE of the 40+ Greek and Roman scholars and historians in the area to study jewish cults even mentioned his name. Josephus is proved to be a forgery by Eusebius, the dishonest cleric, in the third century. The so-called "gospels" are all ANONYMOUS!! WHY? Paul was a believer in a cult for the angel jesus, mentioned in OT scripture and who was crucified in heaven beneath the moon by satan and his demons. He accessed this jesus angel only by dreams and visions. He knew NOTHING of any earthly jesus with a ministry or disciples or miracles or anything. This cult was hijacked and the jesus angel euhemerized into history by the "mark" writer, et alia, who tried to insert this jesus into history to redirect the jews into a peaceful belief system. This was later hijacked by Constantine to control and unify his empire. The next emperor made it illegal to be anything other than a christian, on pain of losing your property, family, and life. People were forced to brainwash their kids with this stuff just so that they would not DIE!!! It's ALL bullshit, it ALWAYS WAS!! The whole bible is a collection of best loved LIES!! From genesis and the garden to the flood, it's all bullshit not supported by Science or History or Good Sense!!
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T0BBi94 I'm retired. I haven't the energy or time for such things, nor the means. I DO have and ride an electric recumbent bicycle, and I have collected the materials to build a shell for it, if I ever get the chance, since after working as an electronic engineer for decades, but being denied employment in my field, probably because of age, though they wouldn't say that so I could sue them, I am now working running a store, and that takes up most of my time. Since when cannot someone suggest an effort they can't begin themselves and not have some immature young smirking asshole suggest that they do it all, when they are no longer able to do? The validity of my suggestion has nothing whatsoever to do with my inability to carry it out myself. Or are you just an ignorant posturing little asshole?
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A Mushroom Commentator Ewww, how SENSITIVE! Threatened your playtoys, did I? Tough shit kid. You may well live longer than I, but don't count on being anywhere near in the same state of health you are now much longer than I was. I rode a bicycle to work for many years, and that was after and because my hip joints gave out from fast-walking, which was my personal sport before that. Then I rode until they got even worse, and now I need an electric bicycle. And yes, I've gained weight, but that happens when you can't walk for exercise, almost no matter how little you eat. You have the delusion that exercise will always improve your endurance at your sport, WRONGO!! After your body has begun to slow in its ability to self-repair, damage from exercise exceeds the body's ability to repair it before your next workout, and it goes downhill from there. If you think you can prevent that through more exercise, you're an immature idiot indulging in a delusion. What you'll want then is a good electric bicycle with lots of amenities to keep you warm and out of the weather, so you can still pedal on the straight and level but not have to climb hills anymore, and only in that way will you sell bicycles to the general public to save us from climate change. If you can't suck it up and do that they will just ignore you, and you'll STILL get old.
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A Random Commentator Yes, you'll live longer, but you're still just putting off the last stretch of your life where you're decrepit to a degree that will astonish you, and you'll find that you need things to be designed to help you just live. To live in an ugly condition is not, or very seldom, a choice, as you will soon discover. If you, as you say, "just hate ignorant, dim-witted and close-minded assholes", then stop being one.
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Michael Harding Anecdotes. don't you love 'em, except they prove nothing. You can't tell me why MOST runners drop dead more often than others, look it up, they DO, or whether your GF COULD run because he lived that long, or whether he lived that long because he ran. Most people, especially athletes, get strokes from exercising in their later years, strokes statistically accompany exercise. Think how much longer he might have lived if he hadn't run, etc. Why he might have made it to 110!! As for swimming, fine, but it isn't that much exercise. Walking is better for you than running, ask an orthopedist. But athletes who waste their day exercising wouldn't have a computer or cell phone to tell each other about it without sedentary engineers and physicists like me, Likely you'd be chasing a kudu naked in Africa, or you might never have come down from the trees. But now, AFTER your hips give out and you get some dread form of arthritis with a long name, like most of us do, hey, get back to us and we'll say we told you so. Moron.
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TheEmanExperience You're trying on a western European communist analysis for them, but the truth is far simpler. They have always wanted to conquer the world for Allah. Islam has ALWAYS been that way. Even the belief that Islam had some scientific "golden age" when it was gentle and thoughtful is baloney. The caliphate period was happening while they were torturing christians in Spain and doing battle with every eastern nation in Europe, and they conquered some of them and converted them or killed them, viz Bosnia.They were beheading tens of thousands. That our leaders are profiteers doesn't matter to them at all, just that they aren't muslim profiteers!! We armed one side against another there because the people we thought we needed to help were themselves two-faced and deceptive. We thought it was political, so we did our political strategy thing, but it isn't, it's religious, a clash of totally inimical cultures. We may discover at long last, after decades of war like this, that the only way to get rid of the snake is to destroy the nest, and that nest is Islam itself. We may well wind up nuking the rock in Mecca and Medina and Riyadh, and offering muslims the chance to die now, or to become ex-muslims. To beat this we may have to counter-convert by the sword!!
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+KATHERINE SPARKES If it was privatized it would be like your Takata airbags, they blow up, you die, and they fuck around trying to figure how to hide it.
+Claus Von Bülow II You're an idiot. Unless you're just a moral criminal and want others to bow down and serve your money, you want for yourself what we all want, a home, safe and protected, a job with a living wage, a decent retirement and health care. Well that's what Socialists want for everybody. Anything you don't want somebody else to have like you do is merely you wanting to own slaves and beat down others less fortunate.
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Any decent socialism would have had an immediate massive pipe project to bring water to Flint at the city father's expense whether they liked paying for it or not. Privatization has always lead to criminal corruption when private entities try to crank their profit at the expense of their customers. Always happens. ALL capitalist endeavors need to be strictly controlled to prevent that. Norway's capitalism is close to ideal, the government owns a controlling interest in all major businesses, so their presence on their boards can prevent them doing anything that is against the interests of the people. Voucher education panders to crooks who want to profit from substandard education and insane religious nuts who want to brainwash their children with useless incorrect nonsense and get the rest of us to pay for it. Food stamps are necessary. If you deny them you will have mobs raiding stores with guns and then quickly, communism by popular acclaim. The government has the responsibility to see that people are provided with jobs. Corrupt greedy capitalism doesn't think it needs to do that. Under FDR Wall Street did NOT pay 90%. You're a bit confused about this stuff, why not go get an education before trying to think too hard?
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Fedeleness Fetuses are not "babies", one, they are dead, and two, nobody recalls ever being a fetus, and three, nobody is "selling" human "parts", that's a paranoid delusion. That means there's nobody there. Leftists protect living women against religious demagogues and imams. Leftists want to see everyone guaranteed to have a decent home, wage, and services, and want to see the theft of the rich returned to the people.
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Fedeleness Now you've become nothing but a lying piece of shit. All right-wingers become shit, they are destined for it because their beliefs are superstitious, puerile and immature.
Yes, a fetus is property. Why? Because no person recalls ever having been a fetus. This indicates that when our body was a fetus, we WERE NOT THERE!! If we had been there, we would have remembered!! Memory is the core and source of identity! This is why it is fine to kill them, like stray dogs, if they interfere with the lives of REAL PERSONS!! Our personal memories and our personal internal remembered story of our life ARE what makes us persons, being human is merely tissue classification.
As a Leftist, primarily concerned with the welfare of persons, I am proud to understand this whereas religious SHIT like you do NOT!!
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You know nothing. Evolution's mechanism is mutation and sexual mixing filtered by natural selection. And we have evidence of this in thousands of species.Natural selection keeps the genome the same when there is no change in environment, and selects for change when the environment requires it to survive. Most mutations are negative, but they die, we only need the few positives to advance Evolution. Beneficial mutations do NOT damage or reduce the genome, quite the opposite. Accidental gene duplication, a hiccup in copying, provides genes that can be changed by mutation and acquire new functions. This INCREASES the size of the genome, and its complexity, Life formed by natural laws, atoms form molecules, those molecules form more complex molecules, Atoms SELF ASSEMBLE!! Look up abiogensis research and be AMAZED!! Atheists are right, and the bible is FICTION, GET USED TO IT!!
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***** Europe has cities where people live near work and shops. They have mass transit, and most of the people you see on bikes are young and think they will be young forever because of their virtue of bicycling. They are wrong but don't know it. They will be older soon and riding the buses. I've seen Europe, people over 40 or 50 ride the bus or drive. Only the young ride bikes. There are fewer cars per person only because of your splendid mass transit and bikes for the young, who seem to buy cars just as soon as they can afford it, which is usually not very soon. In the US, people live too far from work, we have superhighways instead of mass transit and trains. This has encouraged people who become unemployed to seek jobs ever farther from home. And it also encouraged them to avoid the stinking cities here, people have moved to the suburbs, which are tens of miles from work downtown where the poor and criminal are forced to live. The good schools are in the suburbs, and work isn't. Taking on this entrenched situation is daunting, to try to persuade your friends and neighbors to sweat or freeze on the way to work is asking to be hated and ostracized as a nutcake. Unless we build ultralight enclosed electric vehicles we can use on our existing freeways, we haven't a hope of such a conversion. You won't be able to take someone who hasn't pedaled all their life and get them to do that. If you make it an option on board these ultralight vehicles you would get away with it, but otherwise it seems my countrymen would rather destroy the whole world to avoid that, because they know they'll die and leave it to their kids to fix or not. The only thing I hope for is that we run out of fuel before we run out of air and climate.
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samsote Erectile dysfunction comes from several causes. Medical science now knows that it is often biochemical or circulatory. It is NOT caused by overindlgence, as any doctor will tell you. All that ever causes is refractory dysfunction, which is temporary. Likewise, obesity is followed by wive's tales such as belief that it comes from overindulgence, when we have been unable, in studies of thin prisoners and other select groups of skinny persons, to make them obese by overfeeding them. Their body finds a way to get rid of it or not absorb it. Medical science now believes that obesity results from a combination of genetic factors related to original native population's adaptation to repeated famine, and from metabolic defects related to diabetes, which proclivity we may have inherited from Neanderthal interbreeding. See the video "Why Are Thin People Not Fat?" by BBC on YT. Human wive's tales about physical conditions are invariably stark paranoias based on fears of "sin" and involving religion, compared to the real scientifically discovered causes of things.
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Also, you have misunderstood the term "troll" as developed on the Net. A troll is a person who starts an argument and leaves to watch the fireworks as a form of amusement, not someone who stays to defend a position. You seem to be misinformed in many different ways.
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David Herron Yes, yes, yes, coulda, woulda, shoulda. We all know that you would have known what the officer couldn't know, and not be surprised by what surprised him, and that you never have an off-night when you let down your guard or try to be compassionate. There's a name for idiots like you, oh, there it is, I just named you.
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Yes. Russel has the notion of exceptional physical constants misunderstood. By the Anthropic Principle, in an infinite multiverse, only the universes which are viable and produce consciousness exist as we understand the word. Thus, we would only expect to find ourselves in a universe tuned to allow our existence. Exist to us means someone is aware of that existence, both other universes where consciousness doesn't exist don't technically exist, or even our own universe prior to any conscious species does not technically exist, deep time and the realm of the tiny and even places we have not been, even the concept of yesterday, all these do not technically exist, they are merely theories, models we use to try to predict and explain reality. After all, what is the meaning of an "existence" that no one has ever witnessed? In what sense is that any existence? In the quantum mechanical sense, nothing happens except that which is witnessed, measured. However, this all said, his notion of "why?" is important. Science does NOT say "why".this existence has occurred. Why imputes purpose, which only we are the source of, OR so it seems.
But Listen: We have no evidence that existence is concrete. Everything we see, hear, touch, taste, smell, and even that which we think, all come to us as nothing more than ideas that arise in the mind. The fact of seeing anything is just a memory idea of a moment ago that arose in the mind. Therefore, it would seem that the universe is NOT composed of atoms, they are only models, theories, and instead the universe is composed of ideas, memories. If all is nothing but ideas, then are they our ideas? We have no control of what ideas arise in "our" mind. I cannot change the tiniest thing I truly believe by some mere act of will, I can lie and say I did, but I know I'm lying. And when "my" mind changes, when "I change my mind" I cannot prevent it either. I have no "free will", my life is a movie I am watching, unable to look away. This suggests that whatever "mind" in which these ideas have existence, being, is NOT MY MIND! So whose mind is it? This is where humans get the concept of a Divine, and it cannot be taken lightly as some mere untenable fantasy. We don't know shit about its nature, so calling it a "god" by any definition is probably stupid, so atheism is important, but in any case, there really is something there, there, Any atheism worth its salt has to deal with this existential question, and if it does not it just looks stupid and its understanding is just superficial and not well thought-out.
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Coptah Actually there is. If you stop listening to rah-rah nuclear proponent liars who don't cover the arguments or actual data, but who only cherry-pick factoids and glib tid-bits and if you stop watching websites that promote their side without any reference to people who have contradicted them, then you can find the information among the pretenders and figure it out.
You had to learn who to trust regarding Evolution, you don't just believe the yell-loudest creationist lie sites, do you?
Well, you have to do this with climate and nuclear and renewables and a whole host of issues, because there are a lot of liars out there with vested interests in deceiving you.
You first of all ignore proponents. You know they deal in half truths and pump up support with deception. You find the information from people making things work. You go to universities and respected scientific sources. You look for peer-reviewed research papers.
You ask the obvious question: Why don't we do this now, why doesn't anyone want to fund this? There are REASONS why they don't fund things, usually it is because after the big money people paid a lot of money to experts to tell them the truth, they have found that the liars were lying, and it won't really go as easily as they say it will, and it will cost them their shirt and pants!!
We can do this with "free energy" bullshitters too, ask them why they don't have a well-recognized product on the market that people are pleased with? Diagnosing bullshit artists is as simple as realizing obvious realities many times.
After you see someone try to tell you how molten salt reactors, or some such bull that they don't have working yet, will make all our dreams come true and save the planet, go look for counter-evidence. Liars always lie 20 times louder than reputable sources, so you will find vast numbers of rah-rah clones of their websites and lectures, put up by "true believers" who have been duped, so go look for the very few who are questioning that, and ask them why. They are usually MUCH quieter people.
See if they are reputable, do they have university chairs, are they published in peer-reviewed journals? What do they say, what arguments do they address and have the rah-rah folks ever mentioned those things? If not then you have dishonest deceivers on your hands among the rah-rah-ers and you shouldn't believe them.
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***** Every time I see someone having a bad experience with the justice system it was because they did something patently stupid. It wasn't some minor innocent mistake, it was stupid and vicious or selfish or foolish to imagine they could get away with it. I have already lived 65 years and I haven't had any problems with police my entire life, even when I actually richly deserved to and was guilty as hell!! This is because of two simple things that every animal in the jungle would know: 1) be respectful and polite, and 2) don't argue with people with guns. You always want to be on THEIR side, and they will love you for it and forgive all sorts of things you do that they might otherwise ruin your life over. The problem with people who have too much attitude is they are thick. They can't seem to understand the consequences of stupidity if they directly display opposition. If they only learned the simple process of make-believe and acting as if they were the policeman's friend in every way they could get away with all sorts of things. If you try to directly oppose police you will get killed, be polite and respectful and help them, and then when they leave you can do as you please. Pretend you have no friends in the world and nobody will care if they shoot you, and then act accordingly, crafty, like a fox. If you let challenges to your manhood get the best of your emotions and make you act-out, then you will die, and you will richly deserve the Darwin Award that goes with it. It's almost like police are a test to find out whether you are a human being, who is smart, or just another animal who is stupid. A human being lives to fight another day in other ways. And he makes the most of bad situations by guile.
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JosephJamesScott You need to distinguish between consensual child sex and rape. The problem for children in the past, and still today, depending on their guardians, is that they have few or no rights. In seeking to protect them the baby has been thrown out with the bath water, meaning that strictures on sex with children have failed to distinguish between consent and rape and not only deprived people of the right to abuse them, a good thing, but also deprived the child of the right to consent if they wish to, or even seek out sex with their friends or with adults. And by children I don't mean tiny children or older prepubescents with no interest in sex, I mean those pubescent enough to crave sex themselves but have no outlet. This culture tries to "protect" kids from sex who don't want that protection, and the culture brainwashes them and everyone else into the belief that having a sexual outlet isn't "good for them quite yet", which the culture believes because of western religion's model of sex as sin. So teen years become a torturous self-denial, sort of like knowing you're gay and not being able to tell anyone for fear of hatred and ridicule of your most precious physical drives. In the teen years it is almost as if everyone is treated precisely the way homophobes treat gays, maintaining that what teens want to do is nasty and unnatural and should be hated and suppressed, This culture is sick, and sex is the cure.
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JosephJamesScott "Grasp the consequences of the act"? Ya mean pregnancy? Gee, I think they know that one. Listen: When we let kids play football we give them equipment and a venue with rules and supervision, when they ride in cars we require seat belts and a licensed driver, and we let THEM drive the damned things at 100 feet per second on a crowded highway at sixteen here in California, but somehow sex is verboten! There's no reason they can't have safety equipment, a safe venue and be supervised at a distance for sex as well. Now if you think there are some other set of imaginary emotional damage that can occur that is any worse than teens go through because they can't have sex, like breakups and thinking they're ugly because they can't get laid, anorexia, depression, then I know you're talking out your ass. And if your problem is some imaginary "sin: problem" in this day and age, well then you can kiss mine.
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JosephJamesScott Scaring or scarring? :-> The reason people are scared OR scarred is when it is against their will. If they WANT to do it they can no more be hurt by it than if they masturbated, Religious nuts will go to any ridiculous length to posture about that and pretend there is harm when the only harm is to their little religious delusion. These clowns used to pretend masturbation was harmful, but they can't get away with it much anymore, though they still try in private. Canada's age of consent is 14 if their partner is less than 5 years older, and 16 otherwise, and not in a position of trust or authority till 18. Some adult couples have sex because they think they're supposed to, but that's not harmful, they also want it or they wouldn't bother to do it, which is also true of teens, This bullshit about "not feeling you have to have sex" is just more disguised religious priggishness about sex. They will use ANY excuse to discourage it or try to make someone who wants sex stupidly question themselves morally. My personal feeling is that people who try to discourage sex are abusive of children, and should be tortured and then executed.
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When some yoyo gets the idea he should have the right to open the airlock for some fresh air on a space station, we toss him out the airlock. This is the state the earth is getting to, whether you like it or not. You can't just do any fucking thing anymore, get used to it. Peak oil is well-established. We will HAVE to build renewables, like it or not. It isn't the same people who realize this and who want their view and their property values. 95% of bird strikes are on windows, wanna ban windows? Abortion isn't murder, the fetus is NOT a person, a person has a personal memory of the story of its life, or else it does not exist as a person. We do not recall ever having been a fetus. This means WE WERE NOT THERE!! Late term abortion is only used when the fetus is not viable, usually a structural failing like anencephaly, a fetus with no brain.
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Pete V No, punishment isn't non-human. And in the field it isn't punishment, it's self-defense on the part of the officer. He's required to do the job of arrest, and allowed to defend himself against equivalent counter-assault. Orders from authorities can only be later ruled as legitimate or illegitimate by the courts, and you don't get to decide that on the side of the road. But resisting an order judged later to be an illegitimate order IS STILL resisting lawful arrest. You don't get to decide that for yourself about your own arrest in the field. It has to be that way to avoid everyone trying to argue or fight their way out of being arrested. I know what I said, and you mis-read it as something else, try it again. Also, I AM smart, so I wasn't pretending. I have two college degrees in a hard science, physics. Cops have always LOOKED like thugs if you ignored their uniforms entirely, nothing has changed recently. They have to DO the job of being a "thug" except they have to do it by certain rules. They have to bring their captives in to other authorities to have their arrest be valid, and they can only use the degree of force needed to complete their task. But understand this, if an officer tries to arrest you, even if later his decision is judged to be wrong by a court, you are still expected to comply and if you resist you CAN be shot dead, and he will have done nothing wrong. YOU are expected to preserve your life by complying and letting the court decide!!!
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Pete V No, actually I'd be a rather good one, just never wanted to be. Running a convenience store for years was as close as I came to it. You have to be on your guard for everyone that walks in, because some significant fraction of the population is pathological and want to steal or do you, or kill you, just for making them pay for things, and they can erupt into violence at any time. So you learn how to be polite as a reflex, but you keep a club and a knife and pepper spray right in hand's reach and you're prepared to use it in under two seconds. And you learn when you're dealing with someone who's irrational and for whom not acting against them immediately is only going to turn out worse, for you, for the store, for other customers. I have pepper sprayed more people than I can count, and beaten several with my club. I never had to stab anyone, but I ran a knife-wielding suspect out with my knife and club. I have broken a couple people's bones, wrist and collarbone. I have sent many to jail and had a good working relationship with police. Until you do that job you don't realize how good a relationship business has to have with police, on a first name basis with much of the force, and has to have. Only then can you appreciate their job, and they yours. I've had cops tell me they wouldn't do my job without a gun.
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ryeable The biggest complaint about housing the poor seems to be that they won't take care of the place because they don't care about it, resent the process that put them there, and the remote landlord who collects high rent so they can never save anything back. These housing projects become hovels outside the apartment door, and inside, as nobody believes it their job to clean it up and protect it.
But if you give them that one decent home that is their free and clear, that no one may take away from them, and they may not have another one in their whole lives, they are stuck there, and they will either develop pride of place or live in the squalor they permit.
Some may fail, but most will not, they will have a home to build their life from. So you see, it is NOT a matter of the impoverished BEING impoverished by their own improvidence and sloth, which is the right-wing distortion of things, but by not being allowed control and security in their lives.
Landlords have long know how to diminish people using money in order to control them into cash cows paying monthly tribute, and what it does to their souls and their children. We have to stop them.
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ryeable Irrelevant, it is the correct view of what is fair. Unless you give people their inherent right to live on the earth they were born on without owing you money per month, otherwise you have become a brigand, enslaver, a bandit, a criminal. Whatever people are is just not your fucking business. You were not put on earth to make sure they pay you money for land you had no more right to than they do. ANY claim you make that you "own" their house, residence, domicile, makes you a criminal enterprise and degrades their life for your benefit. It is theft, it is absconding, and it is WRONG!!
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ryeable No, he can't think outside the box of acquiring the property of others illicitly. Capitalism started when the people of a village sent their produce to market with one guy who was supposed to trade for what they needed for them as his share of the work. But the guy cranked up his prices and then only paid the villagers what he didn't want to steal for himself. Later, petty thieves called barons used this ill-gotten wealth to buy up supplies of needed things and gouged people for them, while they didn't work a lick. Later, the powerful barons enslaved whole villages and made them serfs. The baron, born no more magically deserving than the rest of them, nevertheless had the gall to suggest that he was blessed of god, and that everyone should do as he said or be thrown off "his" land to starve and freeze. Every bit of capitalism and where it came from was a criminal endeavor at every turn, a dishonesty, a theft.
The future is coming where no one will be permitted to claim to "own" another's home, no matter what excuse. The future will come when people will be paid exactly the same per hour no matter what their job or status, and anything else will be a felony. The future will come when scams to avoid work like capitalism and investment will be barred from existence. It is coming.
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virgule888 You are a LIAR!! Everything you cite about human nature has been disproved. When Utah started giving the homeless homes, they immediately began to get off drugs, clean themselves up, and look for work or training. They HAD thought they would have to develop expensive programs to do this, but it happened spontaneously MERELY FROM HAVING A HOME THEY COULD COUNT ON!! It is when you end harsh unmanageable consequence that people flourish and begin to take charge of their lives. People need to see a positive improvement to their lives from working, and then they will do it.
And industries that are run BY THE WORKERS are more profitable and productive, this has long been seen, but they must have a personal and equal stake in their work. As long as CEOs are paid fabulous fortunes by depriving workers of much of their efforts and products, they will NOT be productive or care if they are.
Socialism can give people these opportunities and the security to build their life up. It does so by protecting their homes from eviction, removing the tribute of rent or mortgage, and handing over residences to the people whose ancestors built all of it, and therefore is their rightful inheritance of he earth. Socialism robs back the ill gotten gain of the rich to its rightful producers, and forces the now former rich to find productive work to live.
Socialism is NOT the welfare state, the welfare state is demeaning, and it was invented by the capitalist rich to prevent the people from dragging the rich out in the street and guillotining the lot of them. Socialism is restoring fairness and controlling the economic realm by democracy.
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What horseshit. That's all unrelated to the problem of free will. Prediction is entirely unrelated to the problem of free will. It wouldn't matter if we knew everything or nothing, what we do is what we were always going to do because all real outcomes are unary, there is only one future, and whatever one you wind up in, that was the one that was always going to happen for you. This is also why QM uncertainty gives us no help either. Whatever happens, it was always going to happen by definition, and whether it was random or not this is still true. Multiple possible futures are not real, they are just ideas. And likewise, you are fully Determined because whatever you decide you were always going to decide, and for the same exact reasons. You can see this at work regarding "changing your mind". You don't change your mind, other circumstances do, and once changed you are no more able to change it back on a whim than you were to change it before it changed on its own. We do NOT think our own thoughts, rather our thoughts think US!! If you cannot change even the tiniest thing you truly believe, without lying and just claiming you did, then in what sense do you have any "free will"?? The thing people never get is that the very definition of the Self is that which the Self cannot change, it can't change itself. Everything that changes the Self is Other, "outside" the Self, even later cogitation that causes us to change our mind is a mental process we have no control over. They operate on their own. We change each other, but even then, we can't help doing it to each other, what we say and do is beyond any control, but we do not and cannot change ourselves. This is the secret definition of Self and Others. If we could decide what we think we could decide to think we were somewhere much nicer than here, and if we could decide to believe that we would believe it beyond any contradiction, and then while we were in our other psychotic world of imagination we might die or be harmed, and we wouldn't know it. This life is a movie, a thrill ride, an adventure to assuage the inherent boredom implicit in infinity.. Enjoy the ride!
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Abolish child support, then tax everyone equally for child support. Everyone, even the childless, benefit from children, the young rake your leaves, clean your gutters, work as cashiers, stock your grocery store shelves, care for you in the nursing home, etc., so everyone benefits from, and should pay.for the young. Issue child support as stamps that can only be used to pay for children's food, shelter, clothing.
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No proof is needed. We ARE thoughts, we exist as thought, we have never experienced anything BUT thoughts. We ONLY experience thoughts, all sensations, ideas and experiences arise in our mind as thoughts, we have no magic window through which we see "out", whatever THAT means, into some
magical exterior world, what we see is thoughts in the mind. Our vision, sound, touch, taste, smell, and ideas as to what we are are all merely thoughts and cannot BE shown to be anything else.
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I'm a physicist. Most of the shit you just blabbered relies on incorrect information, distorted understanding, and stubborn ignorance. Ten times more birds are killed by window glass in tall buildings. And as wind farms have grown, the birds that would fly into them have been killed off and didn't breed, leaving only the genetic kinds of birds that are afraid of them and steer clear, Darwin at work and play. The amounts of "toxic" elements in PV panels are in the parts per million embedded molecularly within the pure 99.999% pure Silicon and will never come out of the Silicon and hurt anyone. Undeveloped nations can cut the cells apart individually and they can be reconnected and used, as most failures in them are connective wiring, and not the cells themselves, and they can be wired into new panels on mere plywood that have as much as 90% their original output. Modern wind turbines are being manufactured with replaceable bearings and electronics so that the towers and blades can be serviced and function well into the far future. As Amory Lovins has proved with computer modeling, as soon as we have enough solar and wind, the problem of needing "baseload" almost goes away, as solar and wind are far more predictable and easy to model, compared to big plants that can go down on a moment's notice and be down for weeks or months. You have done nothing but promulgate the very worst of the myths about renewables, and you should BE ASHAMED!!
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I was going to work on my motorcycle that morning. Our apartment in Santa Cruz had a parking courtyard. I had seen shuttles coming in over California several times, and they always came in over the northern coastlne sky, bright white meteors, beautiful! But this time, when I saw Columbia, looking north, it didn't look like a smooth glowing meteor, it looked ragged, and then watching it cross the coast and head across the state, it began losing glowing parts, like it was burning up, I saw two major size pieces detach. Then it was out of view. I drove to work crying, because I believed it would be lost. When I got to work only minutes later, I turned on our little TV, which we seldom use, and it showed people reporting its re-entry burnup and loss of communications, then we saw it coming down in pieces over east Texas, and crews from Nacogdoches picking up pieces of it!
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Libertarians are greedy immature adolescent simpletons. ALL rights are granted SOLELY by the democracy, awarding rights to one another based on what we each want for ourselves as well. Without the democratic government protecting our awarded rights, no one could be assured of anything, brigands could steal from you, rape your women, kill you. Law of the Jungle, dog eat dog, the War of Nature, as Darwin put it. For that protection each person owes the rest of us the costs of defending and protecting them. The People also realize that wealth inevitably steals by usury and investment without labor, and progressively robs the less able of their right to their very lives, homes, and property. Thus the very fiscal system which we set up among us to assist the lucky in their acquisitions, itself justifies additional cost upon the lucky and the proud. Thus the people, democratically, though this Social Contract, has the right to confiscate wealth beyond a certain level, in order to provide for the needs of the ill, the malformed, the ignorant, the elderly, and those being underpaid for their labor due to the greed and connivance of the lucky. Without this Social Contract, we would invariably see a vastly wealthy nobility occur and most of the rest of us be living in filth in the streets or become their serfs, servants or slaves again. Absolute rights of wealth and property which are beyond a certain socially controlled level constitute nothing but organized criminality. Thus, actually Libertarianism is nothing but only barely disguised greed and barbarianism. If you cannot devise a FAIR fiscal system by which to live wherein you will not know in advance your fortunate or unfortunate place within it, then you are simply dishonest and disingenuous. Nature is not fair, which is why we do not use the state of nature as our governance. We took over the world and defeated all of its predators and adversities ONLY by our affectionate mutual cooperation, and those of us who did not Evolve to cooperate together on the plains of Africa were eaten one at a time and are NOT our ancestors.
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@brettb4452
There's NO way to test it unless you test it!! Ask YOURSELF the question, FOOL!! Are there lots of Chinese and Russian millionaires or aren't there? Were the Politburo families in Soviet Russia RICH?? Didn't they have luxury homes and limos and furs and diamonds and dachas on the Black Sea or didn't they? Did they raid the factories and agrarian communes for salables for foreign trade to enrich THEMSELVES, or didn't they? That PROVES that Russia and China were NEVER Socialist or Communist, because Socialism and Communism are democratic and the rich are banned from EXISTING!! The rich control the textbooks in the USA!! The rich do NOT want you to know that Socialism is ACTUALLY DEMOCRATIC AND BETTER!! If the rich risked having their wealth confiscated under Socialism, then they would have motive to LIE about Socialism, wouldn't they?? You CANNOT GET rich under Socialism, it's ILLEGAL!! Socialism is where EVERYONE OWNS their own home, there is NO rent and NO mortgage AT ALL!! The People's democratic state gives former renters, formerly paying tribute to the rich or being evicted, the ownership of the home they live in by its fiat powers!! No more FEUDALISM where you have to pay the rich every month to keep them rich, and so YOU can NEVER BE RICH, the rich were not born with any more right to that home than YOU have!! No more inherited NOBILITY!! This is the crime of inheritance, and make NO mistake, MOST wealth IS inherited!! No more evictions out into the cold, eviction is forbidden and under the death penalty to even try it!! No more crimes against the poor by the rich!! No more wage disparity, everyone is paid the same wage for their hour of work!! And No more pretend work for the rich. In fact NO MORE RICH AT ALL!! Being rich is NOT WORK!! The former rich are moved to more modest dwellings. They must get JOBS or they don't get a food card to get free food!! They have to learn to eat bugs if they want to be lazy! Sign up for and do a job the People list as something we all want done and earn your food card for the week. Guaranteed retirement for everyone after they can no longer work. Free National Medical Care, Free public transportation, buses every 5 minutes, you don't NEED cars anymore. Build an electric car in your basement if you like them. Free education after work, update your skills and get a job that is easier and more fun. It pays the same, but you're warm and dry and do something interesting. Enrich yourself educationally. Hobbies are supported by the People's State, and you can get free tools and materials. Improve your home by simply asking your local People's committee for supplies. Free entertainment after work, movies and concerts are free. No more rich rockstars. No more rich authors or movie moguls, you write a book or movie, you get paid by the hour. Then you have to write some more to get more. The People will vote to pay you if you're any good. NO MORE ABUSE OF THE POOR!!
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Sabine, it isn't safety or slowness, it's cost and the profit profile that makes more nuclear objectionable. We can get 3 times as much capacity for our money much quicker, and of a kind that is repairable overnight on a micro level, not macro giants down for months of repair with no output!! Namely solar, wind, and hydro, with pumped hydro and battery storage!! And it's ready to install and is perfected today!! And no bomb material concerns! And no nobility of rich assholes, and they are the only ones who can front that kind of money, but who are ready to overcharge us for their power and grift all our money from us to buy yachts and planes, limos and mansions, and steal our democracy with their right-wing fascist servants who serve them in Congress to funnel our nation's wealth to the rich and prevent the rest of us from ever having nice things, like healthcare, education, or homeless food and housing and food for starving children!! Shame on you!!! You have obscured the real issue with detailed bullshit!!
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David, I'm a physicist. There is nothing that could not be detected with a minimal number of instruments. Any gases, microwaves, E/M radiation, ultrasound, nuclear radiation, x-rays, etc., can all be detected with a simple variety of portable and under 5 pound instruments. Most of these can easily be shielded against with things as simple as acoustic insulation, aluminum foil, or steel plate. It is beginning to sound like an elaborate false-flag by the CIA to denigrate the reputation of enemy nations to justify action against them. I don't think this is real. My education tells me so.
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Karlos Jeffers
Darwin never claimed we should continue the Evolutionary "war of nature", the fight of all against all, as our societal norm. He said that was just how species got here. He noted in Descent of Man that humans are a social species and that we ganged up on nature to defeat the "war of nature" and make it safe for our members. The purpose of a gun is NOT lethal, it is to PREVENT lethality to its owner!! Just as a car is to enable high speed travel in relative safety! They are both merely tools to the human end of preservation of human life. Why is it that out of 150 MILLION gun owners of over 250 MILLION guns in this country, that only one a week goes unstable!!?? That's FAR LESS than the odds of a child being snatched and killed. Why can humans fly in their hundreds in airliners packed like sardines, when a equal number of chimpanzees so crowded would all kill each other before they even left the runway?? Because we have a VERY powerful social instinct given us by our Evolution!!! On the plains of ancient Africa if we DIDN'T have such a powerful affectionate and cooperative nature, our group would NOT survive, and doubtless, many DID NOT for that cause. Guns in citizen hands PREVENT FAR MORE loss of life than they ever take. So I'm NOT, as you claim, unsensitive to loss of life, rather my practical knowledge of how many people are SAVED BY guns shapes my sensitivity PRAGMATICALLY!! People less intelligent fall victim to emotionality and the mistakes of reason it produces. The times a gun has just been pointed and not even fired has SAVED MANY more people than are killed by mass shooters in all of history. And the times citizens firing a gun has saved lives far outnumbers the times police did so.
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Karlos Jeffers
I don’t think we disagree on Darwin at all. Although we understand that we all live in a dog eat dog world in the fight for survival but this is not the kind of society that most countries have chosen to live, we are therefore anti Darwinian in that sense.
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ALL humans evolved that desire. But some nations fail because they have been taken over by criminals with guns in the guise of capitalist fascist rich.
If you look how a firearm is designed and what it can do you can only agree that it is among the most efficient ways of killing or maiming.
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No, it is designed to save lives. That it kills those who are endangering others is merely a side-effect.
The exact same can be said of a bomb, or a missile, or a weaponized tank, and they are all illegal in society for very obvious reasons.
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No. Those are NOT used to save lives, except en masse by armies.
Yes a firearm has a number of secondary purposes some arguably useful but if its primary purpose is a lethal one and it’s causing significant numbers of related deaths, then the negatives of gun ownership outweigh any positives.
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You're blubbering emotionality here, and posturing biased definitions which attempt to ignore other statistical analyses. Do guns protect and save MANY MORE lives than are lost? That IS the proper question. The statistics are actually WILDLY in favor of that being the case!! You don't LIKE it merely because you don't like guns for emotional reasons, but it is TRUE!!
You cannot accurately quantify the lives saved from gun ownership in the same way you can quantify lives saved from banning guns.
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Of course you can, moron, lives ARE LIVES!!
You would simply look at the trend in gun related deaths both before and after said ban. However trying to quantify lives saved from legal gun ownership is impractical and problematic in my eyes, you can’t include situations that take place in gun free zones for obvious reasons.
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Yes, gun haters ignore the VAST INCREASE in knifing statistics and clubbing statistics, and proclaim the win that gun deaths have dropped. Did you know that knives do much more medical damage than guns? I was an EMT for 3.5 years. Knives kill FAR more often than guns do.
Arguably you can’t even include situations where the criminal has a gun because in countries that have banned guns the criminal is far less likely to have a gun instead they would have a less lethal weapon like a knife or baseball bat etc. cancelling out the need for all citizens to own a gun.
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Baseball bats are dangerous as all hell. They kill people with one blow!! As soon as they banned guns in the UK criminals went right to knives and clubs. So they banned those in public. Now the only people getting knifed and clubbed in the UK ARE the public, NOT the criminals!! Better if the public could at LEAST protect themselves with knives or batons. They gave them pepper spray, which works, except the robbers have now taken to stabbing or clubbing you from behind, THEN robbing your body while you bleed out or have a stroke.
The weak must have a way of protecting themselves from the strong and criminal, and the ONLY workable equalizer is the gun. ONLY in despotisms are people not allowed to keep and bear them.
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Karlos Jeffers
Now you're being intentionally obtuse. Guns were not invented to kill others but to protect oneself. When guns were first invented they had poor accuracy and poor stopping power. They wouldn't kill as often as an arrow would, and early armies resisted adopting them. Their advantage was they could penetrate the armor of the rich officers and nobility that were required to effectively operate armies. Early fuselliers would aim only at officers, making it likely to win by wounding the commanders, dispiriting the opposing force and sending them away instead of having to kill them.
Even in the USA, "assault weapons" are illegal!! They are fully automatic and do not include in their ranks the AR-15 used by so many hunters in the USA. Gun haters blabber about 'assault weapons" when they are totally ignorant of this. An AR-15 is just like any other semi-auto .223 caliber hunting rifle. It just LOOKS military because it is made of the same cheap plastic as modern REAL military assault weapons are. The military is CHEAP!! Hunters even relegate it for target or plinking because it doesn't have the stopping power for bigger game like moose and elk. And as for "auto" vs "semi-auto", the first fires more rounds as long as you hold the trigger down, it is a machine gun, whereas semi-auto fires only one round per trigger pull. ALL modern guns are semi-auto.
You don't KNOW anything about the stats or else you'd agree with me!! The number of people saved BY guns FAR EXCEEDS the number of people killed by guns, including those killed justly!! This is from FBI statistics, renown for their accuracy and fairness. Your homicide rates by knives are through the roof, replacing those killed previously by guns. Statistics can't paint an accurate picture? You're making shit up!! You're tap-dancing and equivocating to beat the band!! Now you're blabbering about knives, when knife wounds in medical texts are shown to be MORE lethal than guns, wound for wound. Knives are used for ambush robbery, guns are not as much.
Victims are chosen for their weakness. Where a stronger person is less likely to even BE attacked, and can defend himself if he is, the weak person needs protection all the more from the stronger criminal. The gun IS the ONLY democratically appropriate and useful equalizer.
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Karlos Jeffers
The fully automatic military variant is called the M16, used in Vietnam. WIkipedia, as it often is, is wrong. ALL fully automatic weapons are banned from sale in the USA but can be owned with special military arms license. Only AR-15, the semi-auto and cheaply made variant, is for sale as a rifle in the USA. ALL rifles in the USA ARE semi-automatic and of the same or greater caliber and chamber speed as the AR-15.
Calling it an "assault rifle" is a misnomer by gun haters, for "assault rifle" is itself a solely military term meaning a light machine gun used for warfare, which is fully automatic. The term is often used by gun haters to speak of something black, plastic and sinister looking to them. But several arms manufacturers make precisely the same mechanism and put it in a more expensive wood stock as a hunting rifle, no different from your father's hunting rifle.
You have google, don't demand I hand you links to anything. But if you are honest you will seek out the truth from FBI statistics, which are free and public. No such kind of bloody abortion of the law can be considered "successful", except for fascist oppressors. Denying people effective self-protection and the enjoyment of shooting is a miscarriage of justice in a free nation.
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Karlos Jeffers
No, no, no, bullshit and posturing. There are uninformed gun haters of a political bent, who, whether due to ignorance of the facts and statistics, or wishful fascist thinking, choose to spew this erroneous propaganda. They are people who value their own safety over anyone's freedom, and if they can take your guns, next will be power tools or cars or motorcycles or some such.These ARE the people who want central authority over everything, in a word, totalitarianism. They think living that way will be good and safe. These are the kinds of people who bring you things like out of control HOA's and zoning regulations gone mad and laws that don't make sense even when applied with caution. In a word, they want to control everyone else and force them to live the way they live, or want us to live. They struggle with the concepts of freedoms of an open society. And I tell you this NOT as some right wing paranoid nutball, but as a decent Democratic Socialist. The Socialism I support is a totally local one, and one that bends over backwards to be tolerant of difference and the freedom to act in defense of oneself or others.
There ARE NO incomplete cheery-picked "facts" or "statistics" like those I have seen from you people that can possibly outweigh the sum total of the facts I have seen, nor the human RIGHT to have firearm weapons. The RIGHT to defend oneself both effectively and definitively as an elderly frail person is so paramount that I can think of no evidence that can overwhelm it. And interestingly, the REAL TOTAL array of the facts do NOT do so. The sum total of crimes stopped merely by the known presence of citizens with guns, PLUS those crimes stopped merely by POINTING a gun, PLUS the number of guns fired by citizens that STOP a crime or murder is so overwhelming monstrous in number, that NO much smaller but numerically tragic number of children killed can overcome it. Guns ALSO do good in affording those elderly or terminally ill with their own self-controlled end of life. In fact when you subtract those from your death toll it makes your litany of supposed "gun victims" even smaller.
You have presented NOTHING, you have debunked NOTHING. I have seen nothing but partisan blabber from you. YOU are the fool reacting emotionally and without reason. Not I. You are the LIAR!!
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Wikipedia is NOT correct about "assault weapons", the page seems to have been written by someone totally unacquainted with firearms. No, I know how UK and elsewhere did it. Splendid job, gun deaths down among criminals, but about the same among victims by guns, knives and clubs, which you decline to count together. Net result, a reduction in gun deaths, peachy. Wonderful these statistics, you can prove anything you want with them. Now workmen are arrested for carrying their tools home from work. Screwdrivers and awls are now "knives" or "burglary tools", smashing!! One guy was arrested for his chainsaw carrying it home from work, afraid he was up to mayhem. Sure, you've got tools at home, but heaven help you if you try to take them anywhere. And you're not afraid of government??? I want Democratic Socialism, but WITH the right to keep and bear arms!! YOU are the one with a doubtful grasp on reality!! YOU'RE the nitwit in the bubble!!
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@s1collin
Since I'm a physicist and know the sun's output and how we measure it and what the measurements have been, and since I also know the contributions to the earth's CO2 budget and where they come from, and at what rates it is absorbed by plants and minerals and at what rates it is being added by fossil fuel combustion, I know that the shithead blabbering on video is mixing static percentages with rates of delivery in a idiot sophomoronic manner, making every single thing he says fraudulent, asinine and nonsensical. If you stop letting media morons blabber, and stop letting them bring on individual idiot outliers and ask them their OPINIONS, and instead start asking the actual representatives of the real peer-reviewed Science to explain this all to you in a fully technical manner, as you would be taught in an actual classroom course, then you would understand that what the IPCC has said is CORRECT!! If you limited your reporting to what 97% of climate scientists tell you, you would not be promulgating this paranoid politically and corporately motivated conspiracy bullshit. There is NO "massive cooling" coming. That's all total utter lies. The Maunder Minimum touted by people who know nothing about solar physics, is smaller even than the 11 year sunspot cycle, which is 20 times less than the solar flux change due to the summer to winter variation in our orbit, which is 50 times less than the effect of increasing CO2 per year. These people are desperate morons lying for political gain.
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It's not that simple. When I got out of school (physics) I was selected for hire to run a nuclear plant. I finally turned it down. Not because it was so dangerous, but because of its lousy track record at performing economically and managing cleanup of waste.
Every reactor in the country has underperformed expectations and cost waaaay more than they anticipated to build, to run, and to clean up afterwards. All the firms who operated them had had to spin them off as separate concerns so they could then let them take the fall and go bankrupt!! EVERY ONE! That way they could just walk away from the cleanup obligations, nobody left to sue! And then they'd just go build another one under another fake corporate identity. Meanwhile guys like me are stuck in the spinoff corp, watching it die and looking like a failure, a schmuck who couldn't manage money well enough to get it cleaned up!! Not good for you CV. I went into other parts of the power industry and stayed away from that depressing fate!
Meanwhile solar and wind were getting cheaper at a startling pace. It was in 2009 that wall st noticed that nukes weren't profitable anymore and that wind and solar was pulling up alongside and then leaving nukes in the dust! Right now, you can get a kW-hr of wind in Texas for 3.5 cents, which beats even coal, and not even considering the eco-disaster that mountaintop removal for coal has been!! Now solar has surpassed methane in price, the other main contender. At under 5 cents per kW-hr solar is eating the lunch of everything but wind!!
ANY community that wants cheap power, the lowest cost on the planet, will now go for wind and solar, and they are so complimentary that they nearly do away with the need for base load. Amory Lovins of RMI fame and his engineers have the working models that make diversified wind and solar more reliable for your grid than fixed power plants which break down for months at a time, while wind and solar are repaired in a day for solar, or a few days for wind. Wind is always blowing somewhere. He's shown that modeling that on a grid is easier than more fragile plants!
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@abeg7107
There is NO "god", moron. Imaginary fairies don't write books, humans do, and humans LIE CONSTANTLY, it's our best trick to manipulate others and get our way. Even if there WAS some "god" who actually tried to inspire writers, that "god" would FAIL, the writers were corrupt, all of them, no, not one pure, they would be shit-fucking guaranteed to fuck it up and twist it for their own gain!! The bible is lying GARBAGE, every chapter, line and book of it!! It violates all we have learned about the universe and about biology, it is a book of LIES!! Kiddie stories about talking animals and magic trees and fairies rising from the dead when that's IMPOSSSIBLE, have NO place in a book that is supposedly true!! Wesley told Methodism NOT to base their religion on the bible!! Even he knew it was trash, and he was trash himself! Your jeebus is a complete fairy tale, purest GARBAGE!!
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Well, that's just your shit-sucking coward's excuse. I was raised Methodist but stopped believing any of it when I was TEN!! My bullshit detector told me those people were smarmy half-assed smiling liars about everything. I've been an atheist all my life ever after, and the lies of your church STILL piss me off at age 72!! I'm a retired physicist and a Evolutionary geneticist and I know PRECISELY how information arises in the universe and in DNA. Information has been proven to arise, in the work of Boltzmann, Von Neumann and Shannon, by random processes when constrained by selection pressure. This was also brought out in Chaos Theory. In the case of DNA, copying errors cause base-pair changes that are totally random in position and value in the genome, we've sequenced parent and offspring genomes and tracked them down. The mutations are totally random in position and value. There's NO way for any magic sky fairy to tweak anything. Sophia's parts are mechanical, they don't self-assemble, neither do junkyard parts bond into 747's, but the chemistry of life DOES!! You imagining some "god" is as foolish as primitives believing lightning is hurled by Zeus. We now know it's just massive static electricity, and now geneticists like myself know that there doesn't NEED to be any thinking agency behind it all, anymore than we need Zeus for lightning. Your "god" is nothing but rank superstition. It embarrasses us that there are people who are so far behind in the knowledge humanity has fought for! Science and History and Reason all PROVE the bible is purest garbage, all lies and kiddie stories. Disgusting!
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@billcichoke2534
No, that was JUST a STORY!! It was written by a cabal of ANONYMOUS Greek speaking rabbis trying to revive Judaism after the destruction of the temple in 70 CE. They hijacked the archangel Yeshua myth of the Pauline cult, which NEVER spoke of any jesus on earth and euhemerized it for their own purposes. They invented an earthly jesus set 50 years before in history so that no one could question anyone from that time. The average longevity then was only 48. They were anonymous so no one could hunt THEM up and question them as well. Notice how in the STORY the disciples vanish from all history right after the execution, even the mother Mary totally disappears from history. You see, the jews thought that their god ONLY lived in his temple, and when it was destroyed they lost faith and decided god had died or gone away. This is why the rabbis needed a SON of god to take over and become a more portable object of worship. So much of the allegory of the gospels, like the fig tree, being like the temple cult that was no longer needed, it was not the season for "figs". The "sacrifice" of jesus and not barabas, was like the scapegoat and the lamb in the temple ritual. And there happen to have been 30 plus Roman and Greek scholars in Jerusalem in the later 20's early 30's precisely to study jewish cults, and they never even made mention of any jesus AT ALL!! Your jesus was nothing but FICTION!!
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That IS what it must seem like IF YOU ARE DELUSIONAL!! But there was NO corruption, NO fraud, NO stolen votes, the absence of evidence is because there WAS NEVER A CRIME!! There was just YOUR FANTASY of a crime, and you're in denial of this -- steep, heavy denial!! Nobody "took over the media", the major media tells the truth, and NOBODY is "after your guns", We just don't want DELUSIONAL people to have guns, if you're sane, we don't care. WE have guns TOO!! Repubs never figure that out, but a majority of guns owned in this country are owned by DEMOCRATS because there are MORE of us!! WE hunt TOO!! So quit blabbering conspiracy nonsense, it ISN'T REAL!!
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@johnwest3287
Water is a substantial green house gas, but it falls as rain in two weeks. So the amount of it is stable in the atmosphere. But water doesn't absorb the same spectrum of IR. CO2 absorbs more of that spectrum. Yes, the world makes its own CO2 by decay of sugars and cellulose, but that amount has been quite stable over millennia. The problem developed when we started felling and burning trees for farm land 5000 years ago. Used to be we had enough rock weathering by CO2 and plant absorption in growth of trees, that this level was stable. But with the loss of forests, over millennia the CO2 rose from 180 to 280 ppm. Then we started using fossil fuels, coal and petroleum. In only 150 years it has driven it up from 280 to 400 ppm. The problem is, we don't have any remaining ability to absorb it. And then even a tiny proportion from fossil fuels stays in the atmosphere and collects over the decades. The amount the planet usually absorbs only keeps that part stable. But the amount we can't absorb increases the total load. Tesla didn't know doo-doo about anything but the inventions he is famous for that worked. The rest was insane blabber. Greed yields death for everyone. Kill the greedy, and make no bones about it if they get in our way of species survival.
Also, your cited video is the most ridiculous fabricated piece of shit I've ever seen, how can you cite it with a straight face? You should be ashamed to have even gone near it, let alone believed any of it.
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Gee, where have I heard THAT one before? ;-> Well, first you'd need proof, and I don't see that coming, since all we know is what we think, and also, even if it were true, it tells us nothing about the nature of this entity or its purpose. The Hindus came up with a Dreamer, Brahma, who dreams all of us into being, each of us an instance of the Atman, or personality, which it dreams into being, but which is secretly the same as the Dreamer itself.
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Bullshit! Benign fascist Socialism is the best system, wealth is outlawed and you own your home by fiat, no landlords allowed to even LIVE! Trade homes online, no extra "considerations' allowed, thieves are killed, food is free, but work a real job or no free food at food stores, go eat bugs! If you want building material/tools, ask your community board. No product sold over and over like a book you wrote in 6 months, you get only that six months pay IF it's popular, the guv buys it and everyone gets a copy if they want. No copyrights! No pop stars! Nobody paid better. NO "speculation" or investment, guv funds all start-ups IF popular! People get to rent former yatchs and mansions and limos on as available basis, sign up! if you want more stuff, sign up for the extra labor to make it!! No money exists, local board stands for re-election based on how fair they distribute things and stuff. Factories owned by guv, workers better work or go eat bugs! Everybody gets a big garden and chickens! All democracy run by voting online opinion polls! Everything sold/traded online priced in labor hours on guv computer. Corruption punished by torture execution!. Want a better job? Go to night college and get certified!
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@antoinelerie4452
Purest garbage, the catholic church has been shrinking or catholics ignoring it for decades now.
Nationwide Catholic membership increased between 2000 and 2017, but the number of churches declined by nearly 11% and by 2019, the number of Catholics decreased by 2 million people. ... Infant baptism has also decreased; nationwide, Catholic baptisms are down by nearly 34%, and ELCA baptisms by over 40%.
Among religious groups, the decline in membership is steeper among Catholics (down 18 points, from 76% to 58%) than Protestants (down nine points, from 73% to 64%). ... Gallup does not have sufficient data to analyze the trends for other religious faiths.
Families with fewer children have less need to participate in organized religion. Church attendance across Catholic Western Europe and the United States has been in steep decline for the last 60 years. Part of this decline in Church attendance can be attributed to the clergy abuse scandal, but only part of it.
Nobody cares about ignorant third worlders being sucked in by the church, as soon as their societies advance, they'll leave churches like civlized people do.
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I'm a communist because of John Rawls. There are no "communist state religions". There's nothing to worship. Socialism/communism is the political view that we don't have to permit some few people to own the whole world and that we should knock them down and take it back from them. We do that through taxes, or penalties, or prison. It is the belief that all rights emanate not from some divine natural human right to abuse others, but from rights the people decide Democratically to award each other equally.
We hold that the natural state of nature is something we have worked hard to defeat collectively, and that kill or be killed, eat or be eaten, the war of nature, must be halted and defeated for our species, and that we must work collectively to eliminate all misfortunes and disadvantages to the degree that we can for each member of our species. This is what we began doing on the plains of Africa to take over the earth, this IS how we did it.
A lion attacking a child or adult resulted in hundreds of us with rocks and spears killing all lions in the region on sight. They were no longer allowed to even exist around us. Dogs who were not kind to our children or didn't obey were killed immediately. African bovines were selected for tameness and the rest were eaten! We assigned people to study healing, and anyone with a sickness or injury was treated. Anyone who was unfair in his dealings was banished. Anyone who was a bully was killed. Anyone who tried to take too much for himself was beaten down and punished.
This enforcement of fairness was what made us powerful and good!! This IS Socialism!! ALL that now marks our civilization as civilized is Socialism. Libraries, Fire and Police protection, Social Security, Food Stamps, Disability, Unemployment, the Affordable Care Act, and the guarantee of medical care in hospital ERs are all Socialism.
This is the Social Contract. Anyone who denies it is not protected from robbers and brigands, they are outlaw, free to be killed by anyone. But it guarantees you support, defense, and care from the rest of us. Nature is brutal and unfair, the only way to avoid it is join the Compact of Humans. If you would be with us you have to do what we decide Democratically is fair to demand of each one of us. You agree to our legal system and economic system, and that means our Democratic right to tax ourselves as much as we decide to take care of our social obligations, even if that takes a big chunk of your wealth.
Why do we get to do this, to take from you? Because without our monetary system and our legal protection of you and your property you would be subject to robber gangs killing and robbing your family, and raping your wife and daughters, you are indebted to the rest of us for your very life, and you must pay for that, whatever we tell you collectively you have to pay!!!
And why do we have this power? Law of Nature, kill or be killed, it is still in effect out in the world beyond our control, we are the biggest gang, so we CAN DO WHATEVER WE WANT!! And that IS really the reason we all have power over you, because we have TAKEN it!! Our power is the power of these men and these arms!! It is not divinely given, it is TAKEN!! Be glad you're a member of the biggest gang, and that it's Democratic!! You could easily instead have been a member of a smaller gang that was run by enslaving warlords, and the farthest thing from Democratic you could ever imagine in your wildest nightmares!!!
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Capitalism has ALWAYS BEEN broken. And it cannot BE fixed, it is INHERENTLY unfair and will be done away with as people become more aware of what it does. When a system allows one man to earn more for his hour of work, or even NO work at ALL, than another man who works hard, then violence is the inevitable result, or revolution and public massacres of the advantaged. If a man is more talented, capable, educated, or simply more able than another, that is NOT a reason to pay him more, and another less able worker be paid less!!! Pay is NOT inherently some reward for being "better", and "better" is not something due to "merit", because the circumstances of life are determined by factors beyond our control. PAY is intended properly as a means of providing people what their family needs JUST TO LIVE!! It is distribution of goods, food, shelter, clothing and such. If someone is not as well educated this does NOT come from his refusal to do better, but from circumstances beyond his control which is his inherent inability, justifying NOT that he deserves to be DEPRIVED, but that he ACTUALLY DESERVES MORE HELP, and NOT less! He needs MORE and BETTER education to bring him up to higher performance levels, whereas someone with an inherent ability in a field may need LESS intensive education to do well!! Paying ANYONE more than anyone else is nothing but EVIL and CRIMINAL ABUSE!! It is a class system of progressive high-handed deprivation of a class so that they can be looked down upon in order to sociopathically aggrandize one class over another merely for venal neurotic motives. Some will argue that we NEED to pay specialist geniuses more so that we have them. Scientists are geeks who will pursue Science anyway, regardless of what they are paid if they have the equipment and opportunity!! Science professors in universities work for a pittance compared to what they could make out in industry, which gives the lie to that assertion!! Scientists are a kind of person who inherently have those interests and they cannot even help themselves. They don't struggle through the coursework that nightmarishly terrifies most college students just for higher pay, they could major in business and do that, and that stuff is easy! BORING even! Leaves time for lots of drunken parties, whereas physics does NOT!! And yet, scientists are paid LESS! Capitalism is holding society BACK, we could be doing SO MUCH better without it.
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@georgestacey9558
If you would be honest you would admit that children have sexual curiosity, and that if a child was not raised to fear sex and nudity as people do in the west, and were not raised with their sexuality and decision making ripped from them by fear and authority, that children's natural curiosity being satisfied according to THEIR wants and desires around sex, would be a good thing. That would include them seeing adult sex and participating to the degree they wished as they grew. It is not normal for adults to have desires for sex with children, they are too sexually immature to be actually very attractive, but their curiosity would be cute and heart-warming. Our normal adult attraction for teens as they are more developed is widely understood and exploited by advertisers, however much this society oppresses it currently. Americans are schizoid as hell about this. I believe that if children were raised this way that we would not have adults who were fixated on children, as I believe that comes directly FROM the sexual stunting of early sexual experience in childhood. This IS where that sexual stunting and fixation comes from, the sexual desire for experiences of children being stymied. The only trauma in our society that does emotional harm is BECAUSE of the suppression of children's sexuality and the shame instilled around sex, that damages BOTH children and adult sexuality. Your assertion that sex with others is somehow unvirtuous in marriage is a result of immature sexuality being suppressed. Monogamy is both unnatural for our species, and is a result of sexual greed caused by that sexual repression of youthful sexual desires. When sex is made taboo, and scarce, the teen's normally broad attraction to all members of his age group retreats to a greedy desire to settle for at least just one reliable sex partner one covets and guards from others at all costs, even death. This then becomes the desire for the "best" partner, and jealousy. This produces the sickness of a "beauty" culture. If children and then teens were raised having happy sex with all members of their age group, they would fuck their friends all their life and not develop jealousies of that depth and such dangerous outcomes around it. Sexual jealousy, and even sexual beauty as a concept, I believe, would not exist.
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David: I'm a physicist. I was once recruited to run a reactor. I turned it down because I saw that it was NOT the future. Modern reactors aren't dangerous. That is NOT and should NOT be our objection. But nuclear HAS ALWAYS and continues to cost 4-5 TIMES MORE than the exact SAME number of kiloWatts made by wind and solar. This routes money to the rich, more than anything, because only the rich can afford to build them, and overcharges the American public for energy. With the same money we could have 4-5 TIMES the electrical power from wind and solar. Also, building and outfitting the number of reactors the US needs, AND educating the people to run them would take 40 YEARS, well after the most likely climate change tipping points. But we have solar and wind TODAY, NOW, and if we begin building enough of it, converting car industries and heavy manufacturing to that, we DO have a chance to save the planet and our civilization. Please don't just blithely accept what promoters claim about nuclear without exploring these facts.
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@sallybaddeley6060
No, Democracy is the means of deciding, it is Democratic. Democracy is NOT an economic system, contrary to American propaganda. The system is economic equality, enforced by the People and their Democracy. You work the number of labor hours the People mandate as the minimum to get free food, all other govt services are free. If you want more stuff, you sign up for more labor hours. We decide that democratically, as a group. Everyone owns their house and yard which no one can evict them from or take away, till they die. There is NO rental. You are given a house at adulthood. They cannot be taxed for property. Homes can be swapped on a state website. Straight across with no incentives or inducements. Tax is removed prior to payment for work, labor hours are adjusted down to cover all public obligations of the state, The People have the obligation to support the ill, disabled, elderly, and children. Incentive has never been required for scientists, they work typically at a basic level of income. They are the kind that if Science didn't pay, they would do it as a hobby. Difficult jobs are assigned to larger numbers of workers who check out heavy tools from govt stores..
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@Patatmetmayo
You're not understanding. Listen carefully to my every word, please. The complicated information has confused you.
Yes, non-symptomatic infected persons who were NOT vaccinated can infect others. But people who are vaccinated do NOT, and this protection is almost complete. It CAN happen that someone who is vaccinated will not develop immunities, that can happen in 5% of vaccinated people, because Pfizer and Moderna are 95% effective. But a vaccination that "takes" DOES almost completely eliminate spread, because it prevents the virus from replicating after the body recognizes it. The virus can no longer make more of its virons, and so it cannot spread to others. This is how effective herd immunity occurs due to vaccination. So, to reiterate, vaccination DOES stop spread when it is effective, which is 95% of the time. This can, if everyone gets vaccinated, eliminate the spread and extincts the virus.
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WIlder
No, it says,
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed."
The Militia was NOT an established standing army, which sort of thing terrified Americans, it was the People called to a defensive emergency as a force BY their local elected militia commander, and expected to have their own weapons, and in fact they were FINED if they did NOT have them!! They were REQUIRED to have their weapon and that it be in good working order, and to also have and carry a large amount of ammunition, dry and secure, on their person, AND to be equipped to travel!! THAT was what "regulated" meant! It was a crime NOT to be so equipped!! This equipment also might include bows and quivers of well-maintained and matched arrows for ambush!!
And NO, it does NOT mean that ONLY the militia can keep and bear arms, because older and younger persons and women had to be able to defend themselves as well. THAT is why it does NOT say that the militia's right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, but it says instead the PEOPLE'S right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed!! READ MORE CAREFULLY!!!
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All said, I'm not nearly as concerned about nuclear safety as I am for two other factors, the time till it can affect/prevent climate change, and the cost per kW-hr. Building the required reactors may take 30 years, too long for preventing the worst of climate change, which can persist then for centuries. But a war-time-like footing for expanding wind and solar can give us most of our needed power in ten years. On top of that, wind and solar cost 4-5 TIMES LESS per kW-hr, and that IS what really amplifies the reason for wind and solar to a sure thing. And reactors have to be built and owned by rich greedy people, who may decide to double your price for energy when they want a new yacht or plane or mansion. Whereas solar is private, it is yours, and a wind turbine can be owned by a neighborhood, yours. And power "on demand" is NOT NEARLY as important as power "AT ALL"!! If wind and solar is intermittent you can now control your washer and dryer with computers and program them to do it whenever power becomes available. You can retain enough power in a few batteries, or your electric car battery, to have LED lighting and run small appliances and entertainment and tele-computing for evening, night and morning. Your car gets charged at night when the wind turbines get the night winds. Home heating is only a matter of thermal solar, thermal mass, and insulation.
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@lazvt8469
All there was was transparency!! All dems did was vote, repubs and dems in pairs checked all signature and counted all the votes, and election managers reported the tallies. The ONLY LYING was by re-trumplicans who couldn't stand that they LOST!! They were so DELUSIONALLY loyal to Trump that they imagined everybody else was TOO, just because these kinds of morons ONLY talk to people JUST LIKE THEM!! But they only amounted to 74.2 million votes for Trump, where the rest of us HATED TRUMP'S GUTS and came out by the MILLIONS TO DEFEAT HIM!!! Biden got 81.2 MILLION votes, beating Trump by 7 MILLION VOTES!! Meanwhile, you nutballs and the Trump sycophants in Congress invented conspiracy theories to explain it, none of which had ANY evidence, explaining why Guliani was thrown out of 50 court cases!! And then YOU assholes believed them, and then the sycophants pointed to you and said, "gee, look at all the fools who believed us, it MUST be true!!" It is YOU who are BOTH WRONG AND STUPID!!!
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A person of character has flaws, but he admits them and seeks advice, and neglects to put on airs.
If Trump had said with every silly idea he put forward that he isn't anything like an expert at these things in which he had no training, and for us to listen to experts, people would feel he was human, and limited, like they are, and an honest leader. But because of his desperate pathological insecurity and immaturity and sensitivity, he reveals his embarrassingly stubborn ignorance. Even if he made mistakes, if he would admit them and laugh them off along with us, he would be loved. If only he had he gumption to do that.
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@motim92 Yes, dirty little nasty U-233 bombs, look it up.
No, we don't have any, we like the efficient U-235 kind.
But any insane Islamic state would LOVE some. Why should
a reactor use petro-energy? YOU GOTTA BUILD IT! You can't
USE it till you BUILD it. What? You want to build one, and then
use it to build two more, etc? Fine, but what will you tell Joe Blow
when he says, "Hey, the fuggin' reactor's workin', where's my
fuckin' power?" He don't wanna wait 20 years to get the rest of
them done.
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@vladislavp.8731
People asleep or in coma, which is just unconsciousness, have established their personhood previously. They are protected by our laws because we all want such protection for ourselves, so we grant it to any previously thinking person. A person exists until and unless several licensed physicians over several days of many tests adjudicate a state of brain death. DNA identity as the human species doesn't matter. An amputated arm has that as well. Living tissue extracted has that. Only personhood matters, and that is established by thinking.
Yes, the USA is deranged religious nation. It is coming out of it over time, the number of atheists/non-believers have now exceeded the number of evangelicals, who are the main problem. That's why the religious are going crazy, they can't get their way anymore, and it is making them retreat into greater and greater delusion. Christians are heading toward insanity. Christianity is delusional and superstitious. There is NO rational basis for anything it holds true.
Nobody on the atheist side are evidencing growing more depressed or suicidal. Most atheists say they have never felt better, more free, and more aware of the world and its benefits. They recall when they were religious and how bad it was for them emotionally. They are glad to be free of it.
Meaning is a human invention. We make it, nothing else makes meaning. We define our own life purpose. We don't just accept being brainwashed with someone else's purposes for us. Goodness and ethical morality Evolved on the plains of ancient Africa, as we Evolved from the apes. Those who had affection for, and were cooperative with other humans survived better, those without that were eaten by predators, one at a time, and they are NOT our ancestors. THAT'S Natural Selection. There is NO source of absolute morality, since there is no god. Instead, because we are the same species, our personal subjective moralities we inherited genetically are all quite similar, with some variation. That similarity creates the sort of an objective morality that we share.
Guilt and shame are defective damaging emotions, they are caused by trying to live up to a standard you don't really believe in, deep down, and your cognitive dissonance between the two produces the "angel/devil" on opposite shoulders syndrome that christians are burdened with, quite schiophrenically.
Atheists don't have that. We recognize our own personal morality as our own idea, and so we naturally want to do moral things. We take full responsibility for our actions, AND our thoughts!! Now OUR morality may differ from yours, quite a bit, but we have no problem with ours, whereas yours violates real human nature and so you're constantly conflicted by yours.
Christians have all sorts of guilt and shame around sex and masturbation and different sexual desires that were not customary in this society in the recent past, whereas atheists have no such guilt or shame. We see all sexual desires as normal and natural, and we live them out and enjoy their pleasures. No, our morality IS our purpose, and our meaning to our lives, and your notion of "purpose" seems stilted and artificial to us. You keep imagining some "god" gives you purpose, where we see NO god whatsoever. To us, your "right and wrong" are distorted versions of natural inherited human morality.
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@kphawaii
Your "morality" doesn't fucking matter! NO "natural rights" actually EXIST!! This is the earth. This is a dog eat dog anarchy of nature! You WILL be bullied either by predators, bandit gangs or despots, unless and until you accept the protection of the biggest gang and its rules about what you owe for that protection, and only if you are lucky will that be a democratically run gang, where you are treated equally before its law. If not, you will be subjected to unequal justice under kings or warlords, and you and your family might even be enslaved, which you should accept if it is comparatively benign, because it is better than your daughter and wife being beaten, raped and killed by purely evil people. All government is, IS the biggest gang!! Get that through your head!! There are NO rights and NO protection for you that is naturally occurring!! Your protection is ALWAYS conditional on you accepting being bullied by someone, some group, or other. Your notion of contract or rights is totally NAIVE and CHILDISH!! NO contract can exist without forcible enforcement by a gang!! "Shouldn't have to" is MEANINGLESS WHINING GIBBERISH!! THIS IS HOW the Social Contract originates!!!
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@BradRaiche
We don't believe in your imaginary god, but we believe in love and truth and justice and liberty and individual rights too, we just disagree with you about what those are! If you describe them to us, I'm sure we can surprise you with how much we might agree with you, but shock you with how differently we see many of them. We see the society as having the responsibility to care for people in need, and we see anyone who profits under our economy as having an obligation to pay for the society's protection of their wealth, to whatever degree the democracy demands! That means the rich don't necessarily have a right to all the money they made under our economic system, but that we the people have the right to take it, as much as we democratically decide we need, to meet people's needs. That's what taxes are, and you'll NEVER find a nation without taxes. We see people having a RIGHT to healthcare, a RIGHT to a job, a RIGHT to a decent place to live, a RIGHT to an education, a RIGHT to good food, and we see capitalism is the way the rich funnel unearned money to themselves, stealing it from the rest of us. Paying someone less than you would demand to do the job yourself is SLAVERY. It must be abolished. We see rent and mortgage as illegal and immoral ways to demand tribute from serfs as a way to be rich without working. We were all born equal on this planet and should NEVER have more, one than another, of its land. The current system is FEUDALISM and it must be ended and the rich abolished as a class. You'll scream, "But that's Socialism", and we say, yes, it is, and it is the right and moral thing to do. It is what your jesus told you to do and you didn't listen. It is the reason you nailed him to a cross!! You worship your cross now, but you have forgotten why. The good people, the 80 MILLION who voted against you, and the 25% of republicans who think you're unAmerican for not recognizing the duly elected president, are on OUR side. Will you join the forced of good against your evil nature. Or will you go to hell. You're choice.
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You're posturing wildly. What are Newton's three laws, moron? I doubt if you even know. Do you want me to derive the orbit equation for you, numbnuts? Okay, centripetal force F = mv^2/r and earth's gravity is F = GMm/r^2. Now, set them equal to each other and solve for orbit. mv^2/r = GMm/r^2 the m's cancel, one r in the denominator cancels, and we get v^2 = GM/r and that tells you what velocity you need at any radius out from the center of the earth to orbit. It has NO relationship to this incident anyway.
No one is a slave who obeys the law and law enforcement, that's stupid. It means you're insecure and immature about your manhood if you can't handle the existence of authority you must obey. You imagine that freedom to do just any damned thing is a thing, and it isn't. You're not even logical, the cop did NOT kill him for having his high beams on, how stupid. A fuck cops attitude WILL get you killed, and good riddance. And I'm not even some right-wing christian asshole, I'm a retired physicist, and atheist, and a socialist. EVERY society needs people we MUST obey because they are empowered BY us to PROTECT us.
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Nothing he says about solar and wind are true. Solar and wind are FOUR times cheaper than ANY kind of nuclear, per kW-hr. That means a given amount of money can buy 4 TIMES the energy. And his claim about toxic waste from solar and wind is ALSO bogus, proved so by the DoE itself!! The solar panel industry is one of the greenest and most effective users of rare metals and elements. The amounts of them used in solar cells are in the parts per MILLION, the rest is silicon, which is sand. He's right that nuclear when managed properly is safe, but the BIGGEST argument against nuclear is simply cost, and the fact that it funnels money like son of a bitch to rich people ONLY!! The cost of the grid alone, when it could be MUCH smaller with distributed wind and home solar, limits the cost benefits of centralized nuclear plants. Then you have to factor in the cost of fuel production, huge mining damages and reprocessing, transportation on our highways, and the risk of terrorism and hijacking. Solar doesn't have that. We could even make solar panels that are 93% as productive of energy using COMMON NON-TOXIC elemental dopants in the Silicon. People never mention that!! And wind turbines are as non-toxic as large children's toys. Solar concentrator plants can heat molten salts in insulated vats that produce super-heated steam for power generation all night. Seville, Spain is powered by such a plant. Wind turbines can pump water uphill to store energy for outages. This piece of shit declines to state his party affiliation. Betcha I can guess!!!!
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Eddy Gerina
No, battery investment for homes, and existing pumped hydro, and electric cars used as home storage, and solar concentrator plants using insulated molten salt vats are more than capable of meeting our genuine needs, and inexpensively. See Amory Lovins, on the Myth of Baseload and Storage. Sure, you may not have 24-7 massive power, but since when do you stay up all night and use power? Why do you have to? A $200 generator used for high current usage and only as needed intermittently can meet unexpected needs. Low cost totally green energy that will save the planet till we can saturate the world with wind and solar should require some personal attention, rather than unthinkingly flipping switches like a dufus. People who just want massive infinite power at the cost of our survival on this planet should take a pill, or we should bang them good upside the head.
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White Asylum
This clown is just spewing the same market crap.
No, Neanderthals were reduced to an unsustainable number too spread apart by the Campi Flegri supervolcano at Naples 39,500 years ago. It made most of central southern Europe uninhabitable. The early humans that were there were killed off as well and are not found there again for almost a thousand years.
Capitalism is dying, Socialism is the politics of the future. Capitalism is inherently just an extension of feudalism, which has been slowly dying as modern democratic popular government has arisen. The next step is to submit economics to democratic control. There is NO just incentive but starvation. No one should be allowed food unless they work for an end the People support.
The urge to take things away from others instead of making your own things is the problem with the "market" system. At any moment the game IS zero-sum. Whether wealth can expand is irrelevant if you don't have any, so that's totally bogus.
The cause of poverty is rent and mortgage. If people didn't pay monthly tribute to someone who claims to own their home, they would be able to save and thrive. It is INTENDED to keep them down, and funnel most of the money to the rich, that notion of "making money work" when only people actually work, that MAKES them rich!!
The rich could NOT HAVE EVEN GOTTEN rich with their own personal labor, they had to steal from a crowd of other workers that their wealth has set BENEATH them and BEHOLDEN to them. This must END!! I will know we have Socialism when rent and mortgage is made illegal, and when people are FORBIDDEN to own more than their one home in which they reside.
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You'll find they are generally well-educated professional people and people in the recognized trades, teachers, nurses, doctors, librarians, social workers, and the helping arts. along with a coalition of strong union members usually employed in civil engineering, public works, recycling, community service and similar organizations. The educated are taking over the earth,. little by little, and your anti-intellectualism won't fly anymore.
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No! Totally WRONG!! We don't have enough time to build the required reactors safely. That would take, by DoE estimates, 35-40 YEARS!! We can begin TODAY converting car plants into wind turbine plants and solar PV panel plants, and start replacing the coal fired plants and installing PV on a widespread war-time like footing. Solar and Wind are three times cheaper and easily seviceable in under a day or two, whereas a downed massive plant takes MONTHS! The cost for Wind energy now, equipment installation included, is 3.5 cents per kW-hr. Cost for PV is 4.5 cents per kW-hr. Reactor power is 8-9 cents per kW-hr and you wind up paying a profit to A CLASS OF NON-WORKING RICH DRONE PEOPLE ALL OVER AGAIN!! The whole job of converting this nation to renewables can take as little as 5-7 years, according to the DoE.
No, reactors are sort of safe, but you don't consider all the mining and transport to fuel refining centers that are massive, the dangerous refining process, and then on top of it the massive increase in the steel and concrete needed by the transmission grid, when solar and wind can be local and only exchange backup power with adjacent power neighborhoods in a low power network. Nuclear is THE MOST expensive form of power!!
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@FergusScotchman
No you're not. Unless you're a professor in a non-Science. Music? English? French Horn? Water polo? Taxi driving?
Excessive CO2 in the atmosphere causes desiccation of plants and excessive temperatures that hinder reproduction of flowering plants that humans rely on for food. Back 300 million years ago, when the sun was 20% weaker, the very high CO2 made ferns and cycads grow to enormous sizes, but only dinosaurs could eat them, and only by fermentation in their enormous multiple stomachs. Back then the equator was a dead zone because the heat was too great for either plants or animals. All life was near the poles or in the oceans. European greenhouse simulations of higher atmospheric CO2 resulted in plants that were reduced in nutrition and reduced in yield, both of fruit and of seeds. We require higher protein higher fat plant products to live, both for our mammal food animals, and for ourselves. People who try to live even on nothing but equatorial fruit nowadays get severe deficiencies, that's because higher protein and fat plants don't grow well in the tropics in the weak sandy soil. You could heat up and raise CO2 in the Amazon, and turn it into a fruit forest, but the number of people who live on the Amazon now would starve to death eating only that fruit. Ask an agronomist. I'm a retired physicist but I was also a Missouri farmer.
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@marcwire9332
Sure, if you must know, I have less than 18 months by some estimates now, I have right-heart failure, can't walk over 50-100 feet without collapsing and having to pant for 5 minutes, pulmonary hypertension, severe dysnea on exertion, kidney failure stage 4, lymphedema, severe peripheral neuropathy pain all the time, can't feel below my mid-calves, gout, diabetes and need two kinds of insulin. I think that's about it.
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Nonsense. The only "socialisms" you've ever known are despotic caricatures of the term administered by evil pathological fascist tyrants, not popular Democratic Socialism. In a decent popular Democratic Socialism, everyone gets a home that no one can evict them from, ever, the wealth of the rich will be confiscated, the former rich will be given comfortable bungalows with basement workshops and acre garden in back, and they will be told to develop their hobbies and grow vegetables, because they won't be allowed to hold office or speak against the People's state, and they will be advised that if they do not sign up for employment, that they won't receive a food card and won't be able to get the free food from the stores, which is available to all who work, and the elderly and infirm. Everything else needed for a decent life will be provided by the People's state, medical care, transportation, community trucks for transport, power and water. Factories are run by locally elected managers, and anyone who won't work gets a job digging ditches or doesn't eat. The People decide on vacations, and the yachts and jets of the rich become tour boats and flights one can sign up for. Gardening and home improvement supplies are distributed as needed and available and stored in supply lots in local communities. Clothing is produced and supplied to local shops, allowed to individuals by quota. If you need anything, basically you ask your neighbors' permission, and they will give it because they want the same! Big projects or desires you take to local meeting, and they discuss and approve. Things in short supply can be allocated by priority votes, and more can be ordered produced by offering those jobs. Extra work hours can be had which allows extra luxury items and privileges. Dire penalties for corruption or connivance or crime.
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Del is so unbelievably full of shit. The moon landing telemetry tapes wouldn't last that long, so they copied it to other more durable media. Then the tape went to hell, as all tape does, it fades and becomes useless. We didn't go back to the moon because we'd been there six times and USA citizens didn't want to pay for it. There are NO lands beyond, we've covered the whole world, we have satellite pictures of all of it and we've been to most of it. No, shithead, physicists will NOT disagree with the scientist. No, jet pilots don't think the earth is flat either, you're a shit-sucking liar, Del. You cannot feel constant motion, Del, you idiot. Curvature is easy to prove, the horizon does NOT "rise to your eye", it is always lower than the level line! The higher you are the farther below the level line the horizon is AND the more obviously curved the horizon is. If you compress an image of your "flat" horizon by ten factors you will see its arching curve!! Geodesy: We have long noted that triangles over the earth that surveyors use have MORE THAN 180 degrees!! Del, you're an ignorant piece of shit, Feynman would have laughed at you!! You do not understand physics!! You Tube tells people when you're full of shit, Del, and you don't LIKE being contradicted, Del, because your mind is not open! You have been deluded into imagining that scientists don't understand science and that YOU DO, and You're Wrong!! I know these things because I AM a physicist.
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Then if you get rid of personal guns, poof, little by little, ever so gradually we're suddenly back in feudal times when everything belonged to the powerful, strong, and cruel, and the rest were called serfs, slaves. All it takes is for them to believe they can get away with it, and the only thing that has prevented that most places are the modern personal firearms that eliminate differences in size, strength, viciousness, numbers, and social class.
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Can skeptics explain the empty tomb, the 500 who saw Jesus alive, the disciples' conviction to fervently believe that Christ resurrected despite having nothing to gain, Paul's conversion & many doubters such as Thomas and James converting?
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The story was complete fiction. The 500 was a nice round number, just made-up! Their names never mentioned!! People believed a stupid story because it was a heart-warming magic story of victory over cruel empire. The story was set 50 years before, to fend off witnesses who saw no jesus, age of death at the time was 48!! Authors were all anonymous, same motives!! There is NO record of Pilate EVER attending a trial!! He hated the jews and lived in his villa at Caesarea!! There is NO record of a temple trial. Night time trials were illegal under temple law, so were capital trials that were not several days, to give jurors night to sleep on their verdict, again, temple law!! None of the more than 50 chroniclers of the time ever even mentioned the name jesus!!!
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She was entirely exactly right in everything she said, and MOST people, and nearly ALL (68%) EDUCATED people agree with her, When he tried to depict her as "evil", she didn't allow him to do so, because MOST people KNOW that abortion is NOT "evil" but an important RIGHT!! Unprotected sex is decried by everyone, so you're delusional here. You're spouting fundy christian delusions, not the truth. Fundies and evangelical bigots try to impose THEIR notion of RELIGIOUS "right & wrong", when they are totally wrong headed and wrong in their beliefs. The doctor reflects the views of her profession, whether YOU like it or NOT!! MOST doctors are social liberals and support the right to abortion. Your view is primitive, superstitious and uninformed.
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The People have the right to dictate anything they want. They outnumber you. Whether you think that all the People are "idiots and violent and resentful" is irrelevant. Your opinion is irrelevant. Only theirs is relevant. if the People don't want you cheating someone else, even if you have convinced your victim that it's a good deal, the People can stop you.
Yes, WE set up the monetary system and the whole society in and by which you profit, so WE HAVE the right to control that system so people don't get cheated. Sorry you want to take unfair advantage of people and be a greedy asshole trying to get rich off others, but WE DO NOT HAVE TO LET YOU!!
You see, without us to protect you, gangs would come and take everything you have, rape your wife and daughters and kill you by torture. The world without the People's Government is a dog eat dog, kill or be killed, war of nature. That IS the natural nature of existence. Humans ganged up on misfortune and predators and STOPPED that war of nature DEAD, at least for big portions of our species. If you don't WANT to be torture-killed you can agree to our terms to protect you. Our terms are that WE decide how to protect both YOU and protect EVERYBODY ELSE FROM you as well. AND we decide how much we're going to charge you to do that. This is called the Social Contract.
You never had to sign it, if you do NOT agree to it, then you are outlaw, beyond our protection, and anyone can kill you, even us!! This is the simple TRUTH about the limits of your existence. If you don't like it then too fucking bad. The INEVITABLE Social Contract is the foundation of Democratic Socialism. It is INEVITABLE because IF WE are not the biggest gang that controls things, then there WILL be another, and it may not even BE democratic at ALL!! Then you're REALLY fucked!!?
Of course the rich owe society!! Without a society to protect them and their wealth, gangs would come kill them, take their stuff, rape their wives and daughters, the society is the ONLY thing between law of the jungle, kill or be killed, AND a semblance of security. Without the society to exploit and steal from, they wouldn't even BE rich. Without it to protect them, they would be dead. Government is nothing more than the biggest gang, and it is govt that ALLOWS you to have anything and keep it!! Therefore the rich owe society whatever the fuck society demands under the Social Contract it permits!! And so the Democracy can vote any socialism it wants to!! The rich have NO right to get or keep anything without permission of the rest of us!!
That's right, we have NO rights, lest the rest of us grant them to us. Rights are completely imaginary, they are NOT the state of nature, which is anarchy and survival of the fittest. The thing is, in social animals, the fittest is the biggest and most organized and disciplined gang, the government!! It's the way humans took over the earth, by the Social Contract, look it up!! Your angry blabbering about this, your right-wing adolescent insecurity about it, is a result of your narcissistic immaturity.
There should be fairness just because we all want it for ourselves. There should be fairness just because we all want it for others. There should be fairness because we all want it and we're going to KILL anyone who gets in the way of it, *HOW THE FUCK IS THAT, EH* !!?? Shithead. Anyone who is against fairness should be KILLED!!! If that isn't OBVIOUS to you, then you're a HIDEOUS INHUMAN MONSTER!!! What HAPPENS if you just hand an equal pile of money to each person JUST **DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER**. Fairness must be FORCED because it is NOT the "natural state". The "natural state" is KILL OR BE KILLED!! LAW OF THE JUNGLE. WAR OF ALL AGAINST ALL! BUT our species took over the planet by FORCING FAIRNESS IN EVERYTHING!!
If a member of our tribe was attacked by a lion, we ALL got up with spears, warclubs, and rocks and went and KILLED the lion, and then we hunted down EVERY LION IN THE AREA AND KILLED THEM ALL!! If someone bullies or steals from someone we knock them down and take it back from them, and then beat the shit out of them!! If a member of our tribe fell and broke his leg, we carefully carried him home and tried to heal it and fed and took care of him for months, we had assigned people to do that!!
Everything we DO is to reverse unfairness!!! We STILL do all that, with our POLICE, our EMTs and Paramedics, and our doctors and hospitals. That's where all that CAME from, the plains of Africa when we took over the planet from the powers of unfairness!!! Everything we do is a battle for fairness AGAINST the powers of unfairness!! Socialism IS nothing BUT that!! Government and Society itself is nothing BUT that! THIS IS HOW we made the earth a near utopia for us, by NOT PERMITTING UNFAIRNESS!! Just as life is a battle against entropy, so is humanity's quest a battle against unfairness!! This is what the ultimate battle of good against evil IS!!! If you side with unfairness, YOU ARE THEN EVIL, YOU HAVE NO COMPASSION, YOU ARE *NOT HUMAN!!! You are among those who are died because YOU are unfit to survive Natural Selection!! YOU then, are a genetic throwback to those who wouldn't protect each other but were only in it for themselves, and whose bones now litter the plains of Africa, the LOSERS of Darwin's game.
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@Easyeastallstar111
We went to the moon six times to land, and before that twice just to orbit it. Americans got bored with it, very few watched the last mission at all on TV. And it was VERY expensive. The American people didn't want to pay for it anymore if it was going to be what they thought of as "re-runs". The GOP was trying to fight a war at the time and resented the expense. They came to power and cut off funding for the final two planned missions. We used the money and the boosters for an MOL, manned orbital laboratory made of an upper stage hollowed out, and then a joint mission with the Russians, and then everybody lost interest. There are plenty of pictures of earth from space if you don't stupidly think they're fake. We had lousy cameras back then, film was hard to use in space, even things like the Hubble weren't possible till we developed digital film planes. There are still lots of pix of earth every ten minutes from the Himawari, and GOES-West and GOES-East weather satellites, and the Euros have one as well. Going far enough out to see the whole earth is often not bothered with, that kind of GEOSYNCH orbit is only useful for weather satellites. and the flerfers complain that it "doesn't spin so it can't be real", stupidly, actually it does spin at the same rate the GEOSYNCH satellites orbit, which is the purpose of GEOSYNCH. But we have pix from the moon from the landings, and we now have the Lunar Reconnaissance Obiter, and we get pix of earth-rise over the lunar horizon constantly. The astronauts on the moon never thought that somebody really wouldn't believe that they had been there, so they weren't taking many pix of earth, we KNEW what earth looked like, they were interested in the moon!! I don't know what you mean by CGI pix of satellites? Why would anybody do that? The only pix of satellites we have are either artists renditions as adverts by the company making them, or real pix of them through telescopes, in which they are just bright dots. Lately with the onboard cameras on boosters you can even see satellites being placed in orbit from a few feet away. Most internet transmission is ground microwave and undersea cable, only the satellite TV networks and Iridium and folks like that offer internet by satellite, and now SpaceX has been launching hundreds of internet satellites for their new system StarLink. I don't need to have gone to space, but my cousin lived on the ISS for three months, and I've talked to him by HAM radio when they went over. The ISS is fun to watch, it crosses the sky on jus about 5 minutes, and it's the brightest thing in the sky next to the moon or sun, if the sun is shining on it, that is. And you can see its solar panel wings with a small telescope. It's 100 yards long and 50 yards wide and 240 miles in the sky. Nobody is saying trust "authority", merely expertise. I'm a physicist and I know how all this stuff works, so I easily understand it. I understand that others may not, but they should. Just like you believe your doctor and trust them to operate on you, you should trust the massive number of extremely well-educated physicists and scientists that do this stuff to tell you the truth about the earth. If you really want to know HOW I KNOW the earth is a globe and spins slowly and travels around the sun at a huge distance, then you're going to have to not only ask questions, but you're going to have to listen to and bother to learn to understand our answers. Nobody is trying to fool you, scientists have an almost religious ethic about strictly speaking the truth to those who would learn from us. As a physicist it is my moral DUTY to educate anyone who asks for my knowledge. Feel free to ask me as many questions as you would like for the things you want explained.
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@MsNairobi
When did your body grow a thinking mind? Not till some several months after you were born, that's for sure. Developmental researchers have determined this to be so, they note an infant is unable to focus and respond to specific situational stimuli till between two and four months of age, and one day they go from a blown out state of obvious unawareness to self-awareness, almost as if suddenly their mind was turned on like a switch, They will suddenly be aware of the humor of situations, and they will look intently and try to manipulate their environment, whereas prior they behaved like a comatose patient, eyes not attentive, unfocused, looking through and past the world.
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@thstroyur
Fairness should be ENFORCED, by BRUTAL FORCE!! You are FORCED to make sure EVERYONE has a decent home, food and medical care, and transportation and education, and THEN you can play get rich, and we'll tax you right down to hell, HEAVILY!! Everyone not disabled is required to WORK, or present themselves FOR work, and they get a food card as long as they keep reporting for the work the People want done!! No workee, no food card, and anyone who feeds them gets BEATEN!! THAT'S what FAIR is!!
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@em9214
Simple, they get a decent home and medical care and education and transport and such for free, but unless they are disabled, they have to show up to take work the People want done or else NO FOOD CARD AND NO ONE ELSE WILL FEED YOU under threat of prison. They WILL work or else STARVE!! That's MY idea of People's Democratic Socialism!! There are guarantees, but NO FREEBIES!!
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YOUR shitty notion that the homeless don't want to achieve is WRONG!! The Utah Homeless Project PROVED it. They gave the homeless homes, free and clear, and they thought they would then have to hire a shitload of social workers and drug programs to straighten out their lives for them. Guess what happened! Fully 95% of the homeless went out and got themselves presentable clothes, bathed impeccably AND, got off drugs BY THEMSELVES, and went looking for work!!!! It was JUST that housing was too expensive for most low wage jobs that had made them homeless!! ALL they needed WAS A HOME!!!: A place to put their stuff so it wasn't STOLEN all the time by other homeless, criminals, and cops who would throw their tents and packs away, which made improving their lives IMPOSSIBLE!!!!
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@MrMaxTruth Well, they were LYING! That's what humans
do best, is to LIE, LIE, LIE!! We're the best fucking liars
on the planet, likely in the solar system, and maybe a lot
more volume than that! That's our one best trick, we learned
how to lie and the animals didn't. We lie about everything,
it's what our imagination does best, it's what imagination IS!
We can even lie to ourselves. We do it for power and control.
Notice: Gawd never talks to anybody anymore? Suspicious,
ain't it?
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@weiner01103
Religion is irrational and deluded, stupid, ignorant, dangerous, EVIL AND WRONG!!!
In this real world, there is absolutely no evidence that any god exists! Books written by anonymous ancients or modern posturers just don't cut it!! For me to give credence to one of them I would have to believe them ALL, but they contradict each other!! And I KNOW my imagination far too well to let it talk me into believing a god is trying to talk to me in there!! I KNOW I could make up an imaginary god and converse with it!! The imagination does anything you tell it to, THAT'S the problem with it!! If a god existed, it would KNOW FAR better than any frightened human believer who might claim that I just don't WANT to believe, PRECISELY what could make me believe! And so far, it has EITHER, NOT chosen to do so, OR, IT REALLY DOES NOT EXIST!! IF any god really did exist, EVERYONE would KNOW it did, and as a CERTAINTY!!
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@jimbalio On the other hand, IF you DO want to survive,
if you DO want a permanent solution to one kind of shortage
followed by another till death, then bite the bullet and learn how!
STOP driving, live close to your work, make small personal
battery vehicles, install solar, vote for wind, tear up your lawn
and grow vegetables and raise chickens, tear out every other
suburban house and garden that land, grow vertical gardens
in city buildings, and give up some freedom for safety.
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@mathew4181
Pure garbage. Each of those assertions have been debunked or further explained away by greater clarity in theory,
i) Nothing requires Evolution to be steady, just because Darwin supposed it would be is meaningless. We know now that PE comes from environmental changes, and that environment drives Evolution.
ii) Meaningless observation. Pretense.
iii) Information that is destroyed is destroyed, but this information is digital and it is instantly replaced with different information by the process of mutation which is destroyed or retained by natural selection.
iv) Over-asserted. Cancer cells either die, kill the host, or are excised, removing them from the gene pool and Evolutionary milieu.
v) Epigenetics do not long persist and have little or no effect down the generations, No, they do NOT signal that Lamarck was right, his assertion was that effort is genetically remembered in musculature and skeleton, not disease or strife.
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The fetus is NOT a person. You know that when you were a fetus that you didn't KNOW ANYTHING, you didn't THINK ANYTHING, you were NOT a person, you were NOT ANYBODY!! That means we can dispose of them at will, they are human tissue, but NOT a person, NOT a being at all. If you had been aborted you would NEVER HAVE KNOWN, THOUGHT, or CARED!! The bible is FICTION written by MEN to CONTROL their wife, children, neighbors and enemies, it is NOT something from any IMAGINARY "god" that HUMANS thought up and FORGOT they did!!
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so it goes
No, atheists are NOT giving cover to muslims. Those who do are christian or woo-woo believers who are emotionally bound and gagged SJWs who are so ignorant that they are incapable. Remember, all believers in religions, especially the most devoted believers, have nothing and live in mud huts and can't come take over the world. They have no airliners of their own, they have no complex weapons. They are unable to take over a pot party, so no matter how many of them there are, they don't count. Atheists don't need to outbreed anybody because the stupidest religions, fundy and catholic and muslims, are hemorrhaging their members into our ranks at a gigantic rate, so much that the churches of Europe are all being sold for nightclubs!! The US catholic churches are empty, the priests having to service several churches at the same time because priests are running away. In pakistan and saudi the most googled topics are porn and atheism! And so it goes.
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Your beliefs are unrealistic nonsense. Just like the Civil War, a superior organized military would preserve the union. The red states are mostly empty, population-wise. Over 60% of the people are in the east, and the cities are not half of it, the country people in the east outnumbers the ten most populated red states, and they are democrats! The nutball right-wing is less than 20% of the population. And among those most are aged and senile. Their kids left the farm to get the fuck away from them and become urban. The number who might fight, or pretend to, are under 10%. Even the rest don't want to end this nation, The red state nutballs are scattered, and whatever they took over, we know where they are, and scary industrial scale killing machines, missiles and drones would take it back in short order. They would die wholesale or surrender in dishonor, never to legally own guns ever again. These clowns have too much to lose, and they would run and hide. Lose their farms, lose their guns, and get their homophobic asses put in dropped soap prison camps, this would be the fate they most fear other than death. No fifth column action is even practical in this day and age.
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Nobody was there with them in the hotel room. Married women afflicted with conflicting desires for other men, whether well recognized by the woman or subconscious, is an old story. A woman who goes through such a sexual act and enjoys it and also feels guilt, and both at the time and later feels duplicitous about it, is understandable. It does NOT, however, define it as rape. I doubt anyone apart from the two of them and their accounts, and only if they both told the complete truth, would ever know what was the case, and even then they might disagree. This is why women, unless they report it to authorities at the time, cannot be trusted to be giving accurate accounts. They can testify to what they felt, but those feelings may be confused and conflicted. Without immediate report and corroborating injury, it is not actionable. Given the strength of the quadriceps of most women, it is impossible to see how a woman could be raped without other injury compelling her if it was truly against her will. It is an insult to women to assume that any woman is such a helpless flower that she could be raped while laying there unresisting. Getting involved in this SJW partisan bullshit at this time is unbecoming to Jimmy Dore.
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@T.L. Watkinson
You're confused. You needs tools and heavy machinery parts, you need fuel, you can raise chickens, but so can city people. You need electrical power, AND water, and cities control that. It wouldn't be but few days before heavy military comes and puts you in prison camps. If you think not, think again. Emergency orders and you'd be stripped of your guns and convicted of conspiracy crimes that would keep you from ever owning guns again!! You would have totally fucked yourself!! Red states are LOW population, had to organize, impossible to defend against helicopters, drones, and artillery.
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NO!! Fairness means WE ONLY accept that there be NO LOSERS FOR ANY REASON!! You survive against predators ONLY because we protect you and LET you use OUR monetary system. The actual state of the world WITHOUT US is STILL dog eat dog, kill or be killed, war of nature, law of the jungle.
Without US you are a moment away from your property being seized by some gang, your wife and daughters being enslaved and raped, and you being killed. So you OWE US WHATEVER we demand so that we can protect you this way!! If WE say YOU must give so that the weak are protected, housed and fed, then you pay, or you will be OUTLAW, and we will throw you out of US to be prey to anyone who wants your stuff or your family!!
This is the Social Contract. You never have to sign up for it, but if you don't do what WE say, then you LOSE IT!! Included among the predators who will take everything you have, if you do not submit to our Democratic Socialist rule, is the rest of US, who will now be your enemies since you have chosen to be outside our protection!! We will imprison or kill you and TAKE what we demand!!!
Are we just the biggest gang then? Might makes right? YES, WE ARE!! But we are Democratic. Join us, or become the victim/slave of any smaller gang who will likely be the farthest thing from democratic that you could EVER IMAGINE!! And THAT is the TRUE REALITY OF LIFE, you MORON!!
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Living human tissue, or a living body, is NOT, by itself "human life". It is the MIND which we value, the MIND ALONE!! The fetus has NO MIND! That's PROVED by NO ONE recalling ever BEING a fetus. Viabiity alone is a extraordinary rescue of a WANTED child, it is NOT evidence of PERSONHOOD!! The MIND STILL does not happen till much later. When a woman does NOT want to be pregnant, the mere fact that she IS signifies ONLY a medical ACCIDENT, which is CORRECTED by abortion!! ALL UNWANTED pregnancies ARE UNPLANNED!! It is everyone's RIGHT to have sex without worrying about becoming pregnant against her will!! 99% of all sex is for pleasure and bonding, NOT for reproduction. When a car accident occurs we do NOT say, "well, you should have known this would happen, so suffer!" Instead we heal their wounds in the hospital!! Abortion is the SAME THING!! There is NO harm done to a non-thinking larva. Harm would REQUIRE a MIND!! And that doesn't exist! There can be NO "evil" without a victim with a MIND!! She has the RIGHT to control who comes TO OR FROM her body, just like YOU do!! You cannot be forced to give blood, or a kidney, or even be FORCED to undergo USE of your kidneys by some surrogacy with tubes and needles!! Well, it is the SAME for a woman regarding a fetus!!
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Libertarians are greedy immature adolescent simpletons. ALL rights are granted SOLELY by the democracy, awarding rights to one another based on what we each want for ourselves as well. Without the democratic government protecting our awarded rights, no one could be assured of anything, brigands could steal from you, rape your women, kill you. Law of the Jungle, dog eat dog, the War of Nature, as Darwin put it. For that protection each person owes the rest of us the costs of defending and protecting them. The People also realize that wealth inevitably steals by usury and investment without labor, and progressively robs the less able of their right to their very lives, homes, and property. Thus the very fiscal system which we set up among us to assist the lucky in their acquisitions, itself justifies additional cost upon the lucky and the proud. Thus the people, democratically, though this Social Contract, has the right to confiscate wealth beyond a certain level, in order to provide for the needs of the ill, the malformed, the ignorant, the elderly, and those being underpaid for their labor due to the greed and connivance of the lucky. Without this Social Contract, we would invariably see a vastly wealthy nobility occur and most of the rest of us be living in filth in the streets or become their serfs, servants or slaves again. Absolute rights of wealth and property which are beyond a certain socially controlled level constitute nothing but organized criminality. Thus, actually Libertarianism is nothing but only barely disguised greed and barbarianism. If you cannot devise a FAIR fiscal system by which to live wherein you will not know in advance your fortunate or unfortunate place within it, then you are simply dishonest and disingenuous. Nature is not fair, which is why we do not use the state of nature as our governance. We took over the world and defeated all of its predators and adversities ONLY by our affectionate mutual cooperation, and those of us who did not Evolve to cooperate together on the plains of Africa were eaten one at a time and are NOT our ancestors.
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Sal Caruso
You're paranoid and insane. Trump and Trumpists are DANGEROUS to democracy and to all things good. It was the People acting democratically who instituted Social Security, welfare, food stamps, and laws against abandoning patients, and now the Affordable Care Act. Every other decent modern nation has these social laws, and the republicans are NOT interested in rendering democracy, or in the less fortunate, they want to reduce the tax burden of the rich thieves who should be KILLED for all they have stolen from the rest of us. When your "freedom" amounts to a license to steal, and you put profit ahead of people, then it runs afoul of the concept of freedom entirely. The Social Contract is one no one signs, because they accept it by asking the society for its protection of their wealth and safety. They OWE us whatever we democratically decide to charge for protecting them from the otherwise law of the jungle, kill or be killed, the war of nature, as Darwin called it. They should be DAMNED GLAD they belong to the biggest gang, AND that this gang is democratic, it could just as easily be under a king or warlord under whom they had NO guarantee of rights or equality before the law AT ALL. They owe to us ANY tax we charge their wealth for our protection. Our system IS what allowed them to enrich themselves, so they are required to do it under restrictions WE set democratically. Republicans are literally trying to return us to feudalism, with their rich paymasters the kings. Sorry, but we democrats, social democrats, socialists, and democracy defenders are NOT going to permit that!! Next election 4 more years of old republican FUCKS will be dead, and a new 4 years of millennials, atheists, and socialists will be here to vote. You shit are running out of soldiers for your coup!!
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Sal Caruso
No, Socialism is merely the taking of wealth from some to meet the needs of the rest. In the textbooks, neither true socialism nor communism are other than DEMOCRATIC, the assertion that it leads to dictatorship or tyranny is an American bowdlerization of the correct understanding. And in fact, USSR, Cuba, China, etc. the right wing's usual list of suspects, none of those are/were socialism or communism! Why? Because they are not democratic and are ruled by wealthy elites, which true socialism would never allow to exist. NO instance of any "communist" nation exists that is not some fascist dictator or wealthy class usurping the term to confuse their own population!! As for the Nazis, once again a dictator usurped the term "socialist" to confuse the population because socialism had been popular previously in Germany. You have utterly failed at any degree of respectable scholarship on this topic. Instead you swallowed, hook, line, and sinker the propaganda of the American wealthy class which controls our textbooks. There is NO such similar misunderstanding in Europe where socialist measures are what has given them a society everyone else wants to move to. Nobody strips your rights away by socialist measures in a democracy. In fact socialism EXPANDS your rights beyond merely the basic economic rights to be randomly rich and privileged, or poor and terrified, by giving up the right to the low probability chance to be rich, for the right to be safe and healthy and educated, cared for and protected. The basic economic rights in the USA don't even guarantee that the society will not starve you to death or leave you in the gutter, evicted, with some disease. Socialism protects you from the problem of not knowing, once born here, whether you will be rich and privileged, which is very unlikely, or be disabled, wretched, unfortunate, and deprived of any decent life. In fact, ALL democracy, at long last, inevitably BECOMES Socialism because it GIVES THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT!! Once the people know what's going on they no longer fall for the American shell game lottery, a vague chance to be richer than others and get to lord it over and abuse the rest of everyone, and instead they realize that the best chance for fairness and equality and safety and health and protection lies in Social Democracy, which then heads, inexorably, to Democratic Socialism.
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To Richard Dawkins: Richard, jesus didn't even exist. The ONLY accounts of a jesus are by ANONYMOUS writers, who obviously stole from each other and wrote after 70 AD to 110AD. Should ANYONE believe stories of magic and miracles by conniving collection of ALL ANONYMOUS writers? Should anyone believe a schizotypal like paul who ONLY believed in an angel jesus in heaven whom he could ONLY access by visions and dreams, and whom he believed had been crucified ONLY in heaven beneath the moon by satan and his demons! There are NO secular public records of a jesus or disciples, no death notices, no family remembrances for these supposedly illustrious men, nothing. Pilate NEVER mentioned him in his memoirs, the temple has NO record of a trial, nor did the temple conduct trials at night, NOR do they conduct capital trials over less than two days, to give the priests time to sleep on their verdict, NOR would they EVER do that during Passover! No do the Romans have ANY record of that name, and the Romans were ANAL about those kinds of records!! The writings of josephus, the testamonium flavianum, has been show to be a forgery by Eusebius, the dishonest cleric in the third century!! This leaves NO respectable sources for jesus in the whole of the first century and most of the second!!
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