Comments by "Ivan Engel" (@ivanengel8887) on "We Need to Talk - Pt 1 of X" video.

  1. I understand all of the arguments you present, I even agree with most of it. Philosophy aside, what is your solution other than finger-wagging? Because I've got plenty of friends like that, and you will not convince them. I know you have black daughters and a black wife and this is personal for you, I apologize if I offend, it's not my intent at all. But these "white nationalists" come with true statistics that support their claims (which is why they keep growing in size) and they don't want to be part of a polity with "other" people. I don't think racism is compatible with Orthodox Christianity, but neither is "multiculturalism". We need fewer words and more practical solutions. Would you allow whites who want to separate to do so? Would you suggest stronger policing and differential taxes? Would you force the whites to get stabbed at higher rates (and to pay higher taxes for the privilege) just to be "color-blind" like progressives? Let's remove the inherently racist element. I don't think it's unchristian to want to disassociate from godless ghetto people when you yourself have not been either responsible for nor benefitted from the ghettoization. What does a nation in an empire owe another nation? Because if they have a different culture, that might as well be a different nation. The US is an empire with many nations. Why should the nation of middle-class white people have to pay tribute to the nation of poor ghetto blacks? And how would denouncing their desire to not pay that tribute be Christian? Who would you be to decide for them? You are asking people to lift a burden it's not clear it's theirs to lift. Who are you to decide for them? Not everyone is called to give their testimony in the same way, and I doubt you will convince white nationalists or people who buy their rhetoric with the line of reasoning you are pursuing. They will think you are "cucked", because your arguments seem to lead to something indistinguishable from progressivism in practice, but also because of your own personal decisions of not marrying within your race (which I don't fault you at all for). I'm just telling you what they would say because I know these folk pretty well, they would say that you are compromised, and at best disregard your opinion because your personal choice to marry a black woman, as if it showed a lack of loyalty to your race or personal degeneracy, etc. If America doesn't have "one culture", and if this culture is not virtuous, then it's a free-for-all. It is war. Which is why you have a culture war in America that is spreading all over the world. Why should a middle-class white American Orthodox Christian identify himself with a ghetto black atheist American over a middle-class white european Orthodox Christian? Reminds me of Pierre Bourdieu's habitus. If the social contract is broken you don't get to repair it by demanding people who are angry and who feel victimized to keep sacrificing in the name of the very cause they are fighting against. They would sooner consider you an enemy. Without Christ there is no solution.
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