Comments by "" (@jmitterii2) on "David Pakman Show" channel.

  1. Last time someone joked about that, I said I would, but other countries are like ours, they don't make it easy nor often like immigrants. It's not easy. It's a bitch... often a new language, you may not be accepted as a full time resident, and you're far away from family. But if I could position myself, I would. Germany or Austria I would consider since I have long ago ancestry specifically from Germany, and I can speak German. I loved it there on a visit. But they're dealing with a million a year of immigrants for Syria and elsewhere, I don't want to add to their burden.
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  2. And trade wars usually happen prior to when trade becomes dependent, particular on serf/slave labor. Kind of like now.
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  3. I'm a new type, From Richard Wolffe I would call it more concise terms a Co-Opist. Someone demanding we institute a Federal Reserve Co-Op Bank ran similar to the function of the Fed Reserve Bank that lends discount overnight rates to private banks. Differences would be Co-Op Reserve would be able to lend long term at discount rates to groups of people wanting to buy out their current small or medium or even large business or begin their own business that is capital heavy directly. Co-op charter would require all employees to hold a single vote, not volume shares, to motion for wages/salaries, capital expenditures, leadership, management, and other functions of the business; the employees would be the board of directors in ability to petition and vote for all proposals including leadership who would also provide clear defined plans, and together make business plans. Currently banks tend not to lend much capital to co-ops for a variety of reasons, current corporate charter doesn't play well with co-ops that provide non-share everyone has a single vote for employees type constructs. So they have to become a regular LLC or other corporate charter Co-Op like WinCo Foods a big grocery store chain. Or they're relegated to even smaller retail like coffee shops, pizza, antiques, etc. But to get big manufacturing even moderate to somewhat small manufacturing or any mining or refining requires tens of millions if not a hundred million in capital to start up or take over existing firms. A method of capital formation for co-ops is needed, and would work. Nullifying an excuse to have an aristocracy. Capital formation comes from lending from the Co-Op Reserve Bank. Employees don't want to see their business go under, so they would likely manage better when they're put in charge of ensuring it is successful, an they benefit from any profits well beyond what profits are distributed today. So economically I'm a Co-opist. And what's nice it only requires additions: 1) Create Co-Op Reserve Bank to lend to groups of people directly to buy out or start up a firm with a decent business plan for success. 2) Write up specific Co-Op Charters that cater to such an organization that its shares are not for sell and single voting decision and petition making belongs to every employee regardless of title of that employee. Other business can still exist. They would compete. I'm fairly certain over time corporations will lose out to such co-ops since 1) people won't want to work for corporations where they pay so low compared to co-ops that literally share much of their profits and vote on key points on how they operate and do with the revenue. 2) Customers will like the prices and quality of products and services from such co-ops much more than from corporate businesses. Even Corporate businesses buying inputs in a B2B transaction would likely favor the co-op for the cheaper better quality input than from other alternative corporation. So create the environment and let them compete. Competition is after all the only reason for the profit motive being effective and providing supply to meet demand. And of course economically, sectors that violate some or all of the competitive market principles should either be highly regulated by the people with requirements for them to respond to petitions of the people, or be owned by the government body they service; local as possible. All utilities from water, sewer, trash, roads, ports, electricity, natural gas pipelines, heating oil, fall into these categories. Oligopolies may fall into this as well like cell phone and ISP's. Healthcare and education due to several competitive market principles in violation. Political government a democratic-republic with a strong democracy where various votes need ratification by the people... with the internet it's much easier to conduct such a ratification; similar to submitting your taxes or do online banking. You just submit your vote on a secure website. I've taken to call it Co-opism or Co-opist. It would be big. Won't be sunshine and rainbows everyday. But an advancement in all peoples' well being just as the prohibition of slavery, feudal serfdom, and patronage mercantilism has done so. Just has rehabilitating the democratic and democratic republican form of governments has made life better for more people.
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  4. Not voting is what caused Hitler and Mussolini and just about every dictator that has ever existed. An uninformed and apathetic and lazy populous often gets the well deserved disaster that follows. Why we get fucked on healthcare compared to every other country? Why we bailed out banks instead of home owners during the last crash? Why we we have the highest civilian prison population of any country per capita? Why we have the average adjusted for inflation income is that of 1974? Why half the country is literally poor? Why forty thousand are dying due the the opium epidemic? Why we have $1.5 trillion in student loan debt? Why we have an effective armada military with 12 active aircraft carrier fleets when the rest of the world combined only have 9 other aircraft carrier fleets, of which 7 aircraft carriers are nations we're at very friendly and allied terms, excluding 1 from China and 1 from Russia... that we we spend $600-700 billion a year for the entire military budget? Why medicare/medicaid still does not negotiate directly with medical producers? Nobody cares. That's why. And those few that do, don't care about you, and make the policies to what they care about which often is making themselves money to the fuck of everyone else.
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  5. But you end up getting owned by the oligarchs... good puppet. Now get back to work peasant!
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  6. That's actually not tolerated in any voter location by workers and volunteers. They do in Idaho of say when you turn in your ballot something to the effect "John Shmo has voted (or) cast his ballot!" Or "(First Last) name has voted!... do you want a sticker?" Or they just give you a sticker as another person marks you of the voted registration list, and you put it into a ballot reader yourself or into a ballot box. Literally every precinct even within the same county has it's own method and machines... some are similar to the number two pencil exam strips, some require ink, some are those old school goofy chad things, sometimes you give them the large folded thing that keeps your ballot secret as they drop it into the ballot, other times you put the ballot directly into the voting machine that reads it and then they put it into ballot box. One time I recall you slide the entire folder and ballot into the ballot box, I thought what a pain that must be to go through and pull all those ballots out of folders. Several weeks ahead of the election each precinct invites the public to discuss the method and machines specifically for their precinct.
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  7. The funny thing too was that it was in retaliation for the invasion by the US in 1812 in the Canadian territory that failed. We were the largely the aggressors to the Canadians. The British were boarding US ships and pressing "suspected" non-US citizen seamen.
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  8. I have to say though you had to have known you were part of internet bubble 2.0. Advertisers were experimenting with online ads including youtube and found results were not very good. As most online ads since the 90's aren't that great unless its with a search engine like yellow pages. And it should not have been a surprise that youtube itself would not spend as much once it had sufficient content that it wants, and now that it has other content similar to netflix in that it has high cost production content... it was only a matter of time. It was actually longer than expected. Anyway, good luck.
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  9. They are the actual snow flakes.
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  10. My first top pick is Bernie... I'm not so sure I trust Warren yet. If Bernie doesn't win, then Warren would still be a good pick. We'll see. The big thing is the fact we need policies enacted ASAP... no matter who gets voted. We're likely to see a great depression world wide that hasn't been seen since early 1900's. Things are going to get ugly regardless. But even uglier if policies don't change soon.
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  11. Singapore has 26% in poverty. From 16% 2002 to 2011. They're kind of an ever increasing shit hole. So thanks for showing libertarian and supply side economics is an utter failure.
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  12. There was an underlying sickness in the economy just before the dot com bust in 2000, and another one before the great recession. The stock market is a delayed indicator for working people on what the wealth and the corporations and financial industry is about to do... create bubble or cash in on that bubble.
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  13. All this is political theater... we'll see what happens when it comes to policy other than the absurdity that is Trump and his fucking mental case wall.
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  14. Being close to Utah having several extended family members and friends living there, Utah isn't as right wing as people would think. They're like Idaho, they don't vote much to begin with, most don't even know their local state rep or even mayors. And of the large Mormon influence, several including many of my older relatives like my great aunt, and my late grandma are deep liberals; they lived through the great depression in cabins (dirt floor shacks/sheds) as children and remember the actions of FDR that quickly provided decent pay and modern housing with plumbing, electricity, an complete foundation floors. So you have a faction of liberal Mormons and right winger Mormons. The younger generation of Mormons were brainwashed by the 80's Reagan era. The older generation still hang on with liberal concepts and still shun GOP due to Nixon. So you mostly have people who don't bother to vote. A huge amount that don't. So all that has been winning GOP right winger legislation has been a small plurality that actually bother to vote. If people feel compelled to vote and become politically active to at least sign petitions and follow up in elections and primaries, you can see things change quickly even in Utah. And of the right wingers, they hate Trump. They don't even try to defend him. Instead they'll change the subject to anything but politics while decrying how shitty Hillary is. But they won't defend Trump a Dump like they did with Bush. And that's a state that's essentially a theocracy, or as close to one can be without completely trampling on the federal constitution.
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  15. He sounds like the cantankerous fools who complain about new technology compared to their antiquated shit that tended to fall apart more frequently, but liked the fact that it was so rudimentary they could fix it by Jerry rigging the shit from junkyard. They're only upset because they lack the knowledge and material to temporarily fix something broken. And often due to age and their own decrepitude that they're too damn lazy or overwhelmed to learn the new technology.
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  16. It's likely going to blow 2019-2020. And its GIGANTIC... this bubble. Combine the real-estate bubble, dot com bubble, savings and loans, corporate bond dump, and great depression on consumer indebtedness altogether. I've been studying options and puts... plan on shorting the fuck out of the market to make some money.
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  17. Nursing homes had an extra few hours getting their residents to bed after having to change their depends one extra more time than usual.
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  18. You all got easy money during the silly money of the re-inflation of debt that will ruin the economy. The rest of us who actually produce water, soda, toilet paper, toilets, doors, build houses, construct roads, build batteries large and small, electricity producing windmills, etc. will be without a job in this next crash. Your sector happens to be the first to end as the silly money has found a temporary home in re-inflated bubbled real-estate and stocks.
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  19. 1940-1980 inflation was 95% across all things ... 1980 to 2017 110% across all things. We notice.
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  20. We need to go for a two house co-op structure, move away from corporations or LLC's. A Co-Op Federal Reserve Bank must be created. It worked wonder berries for the private banks and corporations with the Federal Reserve Bank. The Co-Op Federal Reserve Bank would be allowed to lend directly, having its own branches without requirement of deposit banking, have access to the treasury printing press and lend at low interest for capital formation instead of using racketeering oligarchs taking all the profits as happened since at least last 40 years. Under a Co-Op structure, the workers literally own a voting share in their business they work. And vote on subjects such as what and how much to reinvest in growing the company (capital expenditures), wages and salaries, benefits including sick time allotments and vacation allotments, retirement plans like 401K contributions and pension building, and what to do with profits after taxes, compensation, and capital expenditures, etc. such as maybe more capital expenditures, maybe more salary and wage increases, maybe a bonus, maybe little bit of all of it. But he workers would get the vote. Under a Co-Op living structure which exists even today in many places, the renter owns a stake in the revenue and voting voice on what to do with surplus after paying mortgage, upkeep, included utilities, etc. Since profits, which are typically 25% to 50% depending on the balance sheet, and if free and clear of mortgages, aren't going to an investor or group of investors, rather to the renters who also are member owners, they have been able to upgrade roads, parks, build swimming pools, and lower rents significantly. They could also use the proceeds to grow more unit spaces where applicable. Co-ops change the owner worker and owner tenant relationship. It's literally the only way for the average person to really share in the profits of advancing technological society. It still works competition via profit motive to an extent, but that profit motive is in line with the average person's needs, not some oligarch or wanna be oligarch parasite on all the profits: nobody will vote to outsource their work, nobody would vote to not upgrade streets, not build lower rents if profits exceeded needed upgrades like a nice swimming pool, park, nice road, garage, etc. Nobody would vote to have all the profits go into a few peoples' hands. The only problem currently with co-ops is that banks tend not to want to lend to them that easily. And other forms of investment are at conflict with the relationship required... the investor has stake by virtue of the invested money thus has more votes to than the workers or tenants. So a Reserve Bank steps into be the lender/investor of last resort at low interest, directly from the government's own printing press, just as private banks do with the current Federal Reserve Bank. It's a type of reserve bank system that should have had a hearing when the current Reserve Bank was secretly and originally formed by oligarchs in early 1900's and quickly passed by congress and signed by the president. I see in the long run, a way to move away from corporations that create an extremely unequal oligarchy, toward co-ops that create a very equal society that is truly prospering. And it doesn't exclude the use of much needed specific subsidies in building more houses and apartments. This should have been a concern when the real estate busted, people still needed homes, it wasn't that people just didn't need an extra house or two. It was simply, the prices of those homes became so inflated via over borrowing, people couldn't afford the payments on those inflated prices. And they should have realized it would put many developers out of business, making an extremely lack of supply when people could finally afford homes again at some point.
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  21. Kamala in Finnish means horrible. So her name is her own nickname.
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  22. Do these puppets get their talking points from one PR idiot? I mean they all take on their talking points, they're all identical on all 5 major (and essentially only) news/propaganda conveyance platforms/outlets.
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  23. Isn't that the GOP's slogan "to take advantage of people" particularly Trump's? That's why they like let it be robber baron capitalism. Until they all rotting corpses put their by the mass of mob after it collapses... again.... and again and again. Interesting people in general are so stupid to be fooled time and time again. Goes to show stupidity is dangerous.
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  24.  @mare3515  Much of Scandinavia still have the vestige of a monarchy. I think extension to term limits of congress (senate and house) should be done. Currently we literally have family dynasties in the legislature. Talk about a plutocratic structure pushing toward oligarchy. Term limits are very useful. The fact remains, most people are turned off politics because the same dust bags in our bogus two party duopoly. If we had a better system, term limits probably wouldn't matter. Because what the people as a plurality or even outright majority would actually matter. In our current system, what the people want means nothing. From gerrymandering districts of states (of which both duopoly parties are guilty) to the electoral college, the people don't matter, plurality of what the people want means dick. It's what the plutocrats want.
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  25. For the mass of people, we see it. Hence just about half didn't even vote in a presidential election, last mid term 63% nearly 2/3 didn't vote. It's a bogus propaganda oligarchy insanity machine.
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  26. That requires another Amendment. And that actually does require more than a plurality. But an actual majority. So I think we're safe there. Must remember he didn't even with the pathetic plurality. He won second to the plurality. Mostly people were turned off with Clinton and Trump and didn't bother to vote. Additionally, many states are gerrymandered to the hilt; that even the supreme court is intervening an having states redraw districts.
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  27. My suspicion was always one of his supporters who slapped on a Make America Great Again hat ironically made in China, would be so overtly betrayed, one of his own nut bucket fuck ups will end up assassinating him. He'll lose control of the wackos he gathered as he tries to fuck'em over as he does everyone else in his life.
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  28. There were serious moments he sounded more liberal or at least understanding to us workers than Hillary. And it was under the GOP controlled house and senate with Clinton that voted to remove Glass-Steagal banking act, passed NAFTA, established bilateral trade with China putting us on path for using every despotic and failed state as a plantation for cheap serf/slave/desperate labor, increased sentencing that blew up the prison population that we're number one in the world in number of our citizens in prison, de-funded HUD and low income affordable houses and apartments which then required people to take out mental case loans well above their annual income, de-funded low income welfare to ensure poverty was avoided, etc. Most people I spoke to either wanted to vote for Bernie, but if they only had the choice between Hillary vs Trump, they went Trump. People are fucking angry in all developed countries. Even many of the countries that were gaining for a short sugar rush, but crashed too around 2008-10 like Brazil, even in China, S Korea, etc. Most nations of Europe, particularly UK which since Thatcher and even with Blair, their working class completely bombed making in real income 10% less than they did 30 years ago as the median. And their faced with a similar housing and apartment shortage and of their supply that was privatized, apparently it was done to maximize profits regardless of safety as the Grenfell tower fire demonstrates. This economic system is completely untenable. We're repeating the turn of the last two centuries 1880's to 1930's. Society didn't learn its lesson last time.
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  29. I think a basic wealth co-ownership for its dividend income. What makes a co-op ownership with share dividend better is that it reduces time worked so we're not still stuck on basic income as well as having to work long hours at low income; basically businesses start to use the universal basic income as a subsidy in lieu of higher pay. Also over time, a basic income would start shrink as all government programs tend to do over time both in terms of nominal shrinkage, but real shrinkage as people tend to think inflation maybe caused by the universal income increases; when actual inflation tends to happen during large leveraging from banks in the fractional reserve system, and a labor market that's extremely tight; with global exploitation, labor markets are extremely loose. Share ownership co-op structure would require businesses to provide shares to employees. A reserve bank of Co-ops like the Federal Reserve bank does for big businesses and banks today; would have the power to lend to co-ops to provide high capital amounts for sectors like mining, refining, heavy manufacturing, expensive electronics, R&D for medicines and other goods, as well construction development. Such a bank could provide a universal shares income in a basket of co-op share systems; maybe an index of co-op shares. Whereby the dividends from these co-ops would provide a basic income. Compensation wouldn't just include wages/salary, but also shares. And if unemployed for schooling or whatever reason, or perhaps in a new small not yet established co-op with any surplus/profits thus no dividends, you would be given via the Co-op Reserve bank the larger shares as well as public corporate stock indexes to gain a portfolio of shares that pay dividends. A wealth model is better as it actually would reduce the 40 hour work week into half 20 hours; allowing more people to participate in a shrinking automated work environment. As well as ensuring even higher income than what you would get from a universal payment every month; it would increase as you got older and accumulated more shares; retirement age you would be set. These accumulated retirement shares would mostly not be passed to survivors of the family; perhaps only 50% or less would unless married. The remaining shares after death would go back to the reserve bank to distribute; so quantity of shares always exist. Avoids the squabble over raising universal income, and its potentially its worthlessness as time goes by. Like a 7.25 Federal min wage is currently a joke. A universal wealth co-op structure would be the best method of ensuring everyone has prosperity.
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  30. First of Satan's power is from god. I have actually read the bible. I find it hokey and rather funny how the only way people can tolerate to worship the bible is to change what was written. Enjoy your imaginary friends and enemies. I've given up on actually worshiping of any religion. Religions are nice to know for historical, social understanding, entertainment of cultural differences from some of the beauty of different religions. But actually worshiping any of it is a waste of time.
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  31. Like France pre-revolution, the 3 estates (nobility, clergy, and everyone else) everyone else were the only ones paying taxes. What's seriously disgusting is that Amazon didn't spend all their profits on capital expenditures (growing the company, updating stuff, hiring more people, etc) but literally tax cuts to distribute those profits to executives and other shareholders. That's fucking disgusting. And they wonder why stock buy backs are at a historic high over the last several years, even companies that aren't doing that well or just doing okay are in the stock buy back game. Was illegal until Reagan in his infinite greed and GOP congress made it legal. And then who the fuck made such a gimmick a tax deduction?
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  32. I always find it funny how AM radio reich winger nuts are always bothered by Hollywood; their jingo word for present day movie actors and musicians. Funny thing, these hypocritically shit bags have all their DVD's, go to as many movies as possible, and tend to worship various celebrities as deities. They apparently really have a fetish for actors, the shittiest ones who can't really act. And ardent fans of the superstition that's contradictory to their own ideas on policy. It all boils down to: they're dumber than a bag of shit... well that's not fair to a bag of shit. At least the bag-o-shit knows to stink to try to keep people from stepping on it.
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  33. Many right wingers are simply stupid. And those that aren't are extremely hateful and generally violent regardless. Find a bully, they're likely more to identify with extreme right wing politics, invoke fascism and racism and hypocritical stances on welfare. They combine as a fucking bunch of cruel hateful nut jobs.
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  34. The constitution is vague for a reason and can easily be argued mandatory vaccination for those able to get vaccination to promote the welfare of the people. You can't use right of religion on this any more than using right of religion for allow one to break any other law such as murder, fraud, tax fraud, not paying taxes, robbery, rape, etc. The reason to get vaccination is that it ensure you don't spread infectious diseases as vaccinations do wear off over time, and for those who cannot get them due to allergies or immune disorders or they're too young having to under development immune response system... externalities.
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  35. That's how all conversations should be like when in doubt on a topic.
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  36. When was he transparent? The orange bloated ogre literally ripped up a memo from another WH member, and was about to eat the little pieces of paper, until a staffer freaking out had to explain to him Presidential Records Act (PRA) of 1978 requires archiving documents received and written even if it's currently classified. Any thing he writes or receives from anyone. He's as transparent as he is fat and orange. Seriously, he still has never released is tax filings.
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  37. We're kind of in a prolonged bubble that was re-inflated under Obama's administration. When it crashes, its going to be horrifying world wide; will make the "great recession" look like a minor business cycle downturn blip. The race to the bottom serf, slave, peasant, etc. fueled rush back to a plutocratic rule where only 20% are fine, and everyone else are just there doesn't tend to end well.
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  38. ACA never gave medicare authority required to negotiate. Which is absurd. All other nations with their universal healthcare systems have ability to negotiate. Some even own and operate their own supply chain and facilities like pharma manufacturing plants, clinics, and hospitals; mixed with privately own of the same. You can't expect prices to come down when business are allowed to gouge. All pharma's are for profit. There are no nonprofit pharma's. And there mixed for profit hospitals and non for profits. Same with medical insurance. Single payer system must have the ability to negotiate prices including importing from secure, nonhuman rights violating nations.
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  39. Or they're psychopaths or touched by a psychopath and have become sociopaths (cultural dogma indoctrination). There's a reason why the right winger authoritarians go after religious people with fervor.
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  40. If you come down acting like a tyrannical despot genocidal raping murderer, the right will love you. But if you were to do anything else, they'll call you the anti-Christ. Welcome to idiocracy.
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  41. I think this is stupid. They should say, yes. At the time I was wrong. Very wrong. And have grown up. What's wrong with that?
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  42. I think its not a complete waste of time. The comments you got were from the mentally ill who are rampant among anyone irrational and gullible enough to support right wingers, particularly the odd ball buffoon Trump with his tariffs already hurting businesses nation wide. Economic reports already showing many direct and indirect business dealing with steel and aluminum as an input are having to cutback and even stop production for long periods of time. My place of work uses lots of aluminum, and decided to only give everyone a 1% raise this spring for the year citing cost of inputs increasing... yeah the fucking aluminum tariffs. Anyway, it's somewhat worth it. If they completely edited our comments than it wouldn't be. The four minutes is shady; cutting off because they don't know how to respond is very shady. They're a propaganda outlet. Just as MSNBC and CNN with occasional fact based news. Most of the time they want to submit a narrative, throwing things out there to see if it sticks to move what they want to achieve forward. CNN's recent article about current front runner for DNC presidential candidate placing Biden number 1, and Sanders number 5. Most people at work, friends and family either don't care for Biden, and shouldn't be too surprising they don't even know how Biden is, yet they do know who Bernie is. And they like Bernie... even Trump voters lament they rather have voted for Bernie because they trust him more, it was that Trump was speaking more like a democrat than Hillary on economic issues. Whether its completely worth it is up to you... you're the one having to catch flack and even insane nut who might decide stalking you is a good idea... a 4 minute segment on a bland propaganda network you actually got comments, and that some of these commentators described researching you? LOL! WTF? Do these people have a life? Good news, they looked you up. It means what you said got to them. So they're at least trying to think. Albeit like most paranoid nuts, its for confirmation bias that what you have to say must be wrong, because they have already determined it.
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  43. It's not just "news" stations almost all youtubers are feeling a huge crunch from video gamer channels to home improvement to whatever else. Simply they have lots of channels and only so much money they want to doll out. It's called maximizing their profits. The early days, they were just shelling out money with all the new IPO and various other cash. It was an obvious bubble generated boom money. Similar to cell phone industry with kiosks and 3rd party authorized retailers raking in big bucks from the major 5 cell phone telecoms. And that began drying up when the investors then wanted solid returns. Sucks. But that's how this junk works. Supply side investment fueled boom bust cycles.
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  44. Wasn't Lenin necessarily who was authoritarian. Was Stalin that turned it into authoritarian. Lenin toward the end of his life was a crippled due to strokes, a puppet that Stalin used to create a nightmare dictatorship and inspired other nations like China to adopt its Mao and Cambodia's Pol Pot.
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  45. Fraudster comes unglued... nothing new. His entire life was fraud, his inheritance to a hundred millionaire is what allowed him to stay in the spotlight despite everything he's done was a con that blew up in everyone including his face. We can only hope nobody follow his order of self destruction on use of military up to and including use of a nuclear weapon. If thousands of years of recorded history that inheritance of power ie wealth and political power is bad, well this is just another. An aristocracy is a parasite, villains through and through. End aristocracies. They ought not exist. Ever. Or prepare to be ruined under they psychopathic and sociopathic tyranny.
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  46. Everyone I know thinks Biden is a joke... and the ones that don't don't even know he is.
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  47. They need to quit giving Trump his free air time... even the comedians have been cashing in on Trump idiocy. Just stop. Quit airing the nonsense. And when you do, fact check it immediately.
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  48. And if the DNC didn't act like the GOP, and when all else fails, be morons paid to lose by invoking empty platitudes of nonsense garbage. I'm really hoping the justice democrat candidates win at least. Supporting a few in AZ and some other states. Can't vote for them being in Idaho. But can donate to their campaign which I have done.
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  49. These people are dumb as fence post. You could do a debate, but it wouldn't matter because reasons don't matter. These people would think detailed factual logical debate particularly if it has any level of sophistication you lose. You win in these morons minds if you give back quips even if its outright incorrect, nonsensical, so long as its with the shortest amount of words, shortest words, and loudest volume wins. Logical argument doesn't apply, contradiction and inconsistency doesn't apply. They make the actors playing dumb fucks on Idiocracy look intelligent.
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  50. Never gave her campaign any money, but did end up voting for her. Our entire political system is a joke though. We need new parties, but an entire political structure that isn't modeled off the oligarchy mafioso of Ancient Rome, and just what is logically mathematically known to be accurate representation of a parliamentary system. Hence why no other representative country uses our idiot failed style. Probably why every of those countries have universal healthcare, many have reduced to no tuition of vacation or higher education training, and the bottom to the top 90% all pay lower taxes than our same segment. And they don't have a run away military industrial cancer that effectively sucks up a huge amount of the budget.
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