Comments by "Kam sun Leong" (@kamsunleong6648) on "The Electric Viking" channel.

  1. She is not the first case. In 2019 an American diplomat's wife killed a teenager in UK in a hit and run crash. She fled back to US despite telling the police she would not. She declined to return to UK for the trial and was given an 8 month suspended sentence.
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  2. ​@lophiz1945 Their economy has been collapsing since the nineties, according to many Chinese experts. One renowed expert even put a definitive date as 2001 for its total collapse. You should read his best seller book. He's still adamant he's not wrong. Just the date is a bit off. By 2 decades and counting.
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  3. Asean countries already getting their Teslas from Shanghai . No issue.
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  4. Having a regular job in China is termed as forced labour. According to western msm.
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  5. ​ @gregkelly2145  Sane old repeated drivel. Companies moving to Vietnam, India or Mexico. Have to research to see what's happening in Vietnam? Do you know they are also facing multiple headwinds, shrinking exports and frequent blackouts. Chinese companies are also descending on Mexico to set up shop and use it as a backdoor to US.
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  6. It's already happening here in Asean. Mentioned ev and BYD instantly pops up.
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  7. They can only get better. No more labour disputes, strikes, exorbitant workers benefits and down time. Trade unions have no chance over time.
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  8. ​ @ceroandone  ICE vehicles are probably much more prone to this happening. Remember you are sitting on top of a highly combustible gas tank.
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  9. ​ @orionbetelgeuse1937  Sure. Let's blame China.
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  10. ​ @Sennrsup As an Indonesian I am grateful and happy that the Chinese helped build our first high speed rail in Asean under the BRI. Now I can travel from our capital city Jakarta to my hometown in Bandung in 45 minutes. The journey used to take more than 3 hours by road. Now I can visit and come back to work on the same day. Thanks to the Chinese engineers.
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  11. ​ @michaelkatz275  This Peruvian port is a private enterprise joint venture with no Government involvement. The Chinese Cosco Shipping Co owns 60% while the Peruvian mining company Volcano owns 40%. Whether it succeeds or fails, it has nothing to do with the Peruvian government. People should not comment about something they have no idea of. they know
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  12. Nonsense. They are no 1 here in Asean. Has been on top for more than a year now. There are no such issues.
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  13. Wow! This is bad news for Byd. Really gonna hit their bottom line.
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  14. I know it's difficult to accept. But it is what it is.
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  15. Having a regular job in China,especially Xinjiang is termed as forced labour. Iyghers are not allowed to work in any industry except maybe making their own handicrafts and food for sale to tourists. This maybe acceptable as not forced, by western governments.
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  16.  @KingLutherQ  You cant buy them because they are not available in the first place. Even if Chinese phones are available they probably wont work or supported by your telco carriers. They will dominate your market if they are supported. Price is always an important consideration in any consumer's mind. Walmart strives because of this. Don't kid yourself.
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  17. ​ @kennygaming208  Yet Ford Motors USA CEO prefers a Chinese ev, Xiaomi SU7 as his daily drive. Rather than his own models. That's telling, isn't it?
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  18. ​ @metrotrujillo  Not exactly. Buick sells quite well there.
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  19. ​@nilslivetlanga9710 Sure you do. But the Chinese network size and the distance they travel dwarf both Europe and Japan combined many times over. Not to mention, some of these routes were built on really challenging geographical terrains. Something that European rail builders rarely have to face. It's a vast country with four times zones and varied climatic conditions and landscapes. No easy feat to build a massive project like their HSR.
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  20.  @mrfish3915  Geely ev Atto 3 just got a 5 star rating in Euro NCAP safety test. Putting to rest all those European concerns about their safety. Its going to sell really well there.
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  21. ​@markfinch2016 The Chinese are way ahead of everyone else in ev tech. Yhe Germans are investing heavily in Chinese ev tech. Like VW 700 million dollar investment to acquire 5% in Chinese ev maker Xpeng. Audi is collaborating with Chinese SAIC to build China specific evs. Mercedes invested in Chinese start up Momento to get access to their autonomous driving solutions. Mercedes intends to build an all electric CLA model using these solutions. You may not be aware that VW have invested more than a billion dollars to set up an ev research and development centre in Hefei China. Not back home in Germany. So you see most of the advanced tech is coming from China. Why the need to steal outdated tech from anyone.
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  22. Chinese lunar holiday. Whole country on vacation for at least 10 days.
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  23. Why not. They have been making evs since 2008.
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  24. Bla bla bla. But you are here nevertheless. Curious no doubt.
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  25. Chinese Geely group acquired Volvo from Ford back in 2010. The design team is still in Sweden. Polestar and XC models
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  26. ​@leedaq7767 Absolutely false. Here in Malaysia it's a rarity to have an outage. Even outside our cities. Can't comment about our neighbors
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  27. ​ diemes5463  So you are saying the Big Three in Detriot never ever got a helping hand from Washington at all?
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  28. Maybe jn US . But here in Asean, especially Thailand, Chinese evs have taken off like a rocket. In just over a year since, you find Byd, Neta, Ora, and MG evs everywhere when they were none before. Both BYD and GWM are building their plants here to support the right-hand drive market here as well as Down Under.
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  29. I am sure they wouldn't miss you too.
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  30. ​ @robertthomas2673  Church? Are you serious. I am a regular church goer during my time in Shanghai. Catholic, I mean. There is also a charismatic church near my workplace. The caretaker told me it was set up by an American missionary.Quite popular, I was told. My advice is to leave your basement and travel the world. You'll be astonished what garbage our msm dole out to the uninformed masses.
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  31. Tofu brain
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  32. OMG!! One lost customer. This is awful news for Byd. Really gonna affect their bottom line.
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  33. Delusional. Chinese market the most competitive in the world. Their ev tech far ahead of Japan. Toyota caught with their pants down. Whether to go fill electric or hybrid or stick with their ice.
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  34. The fire on board the cargo ship off the Dutch coast back in Aug 2023 was first thought to be caused by an ev. But salvage crew dismissed it as they found all 498 evs parked in lower deck were undamaged. Another huge fire that destroyed 1200 cars in tbe Luton Airport car park in Oct 2023 was also thought to be caused by an ev. Again it was confirmed that a diesel powered Range Rover that's the cause.
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  35. ​ @dzcav3  Japanese is a spent force. Old tech. They are struggling with their hsr project in India.
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  36. ​ @grantbuttenshaw  Copium. The next preferred addiction after fentanyl in America.
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  37. ​ @dustinstorey6779  Some credit. It's an embarrassing failure. Despite having all their vast resources at their disposal.
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  38. ​ @chrisbell238 BYD is already in Lancaster Calif. Being there for quite awhile. So Newsome knows who's the best in this buisness
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  39. You left out Asean, Latin America, Central Asia and Gulf countries.
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  40. They are definitely coming into Asean and especially here in Thailand. Byd( just one model) is the best selling ev by a wide margin followed by 4 other Chinese evs and then Tesla.
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  41. You only have to look at the smartphone market to see where Japan now stands. Most of their illustrious elecyronic brands have disappeared. Sansui, Sanyo, Nakamichi, Pioneer, Onkyo, Akia, Hitachi. Probably only Sony and Panasonic are left. For the car industry they are still king of ICE. And will remain so for thd foreseeable future.
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  42. Relying on this channel for credible info on China is like believing Gordon Chang prediction that China will collapse back in 2001. A date he revised many times over the years since his best selling book was released.
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  43. Byd blade battery is the safest battery currently in the ev industry. Even Tesla Berlin is using them in their model Y.
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  44. They also have a side business as an OEM for Apple iPad tablets. They assemble about 30% of their tablet global production with a workforce of about 100k.
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  45. You are talking about China. They always walk their talk. They say they will build their own space station without outside help, they did. They say they will land a rover on Mars and they did. Xiaomi said they will build and launch their own ev within 3 years, and they just did. Etc etc
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  46. Total global car sales 2023 China : 30 million Us : 15.5 million Europe : 10.5 million
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  47. You mean manufacturers like drone maker DJI or smartphone maker Xiaomi or computer maker Lenovo or ev battery giant Catl.
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  48. ​ @xraylife  Tofu dreg BYD just beaten Tesla as the new ev champion.
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  49. ​ @MrBigbangbuzz They love it here in Thailand. Top 5 best selling evs are all Chinese. So much so three Chinese ev companies are building their assembly plants here to service the right hand drive market.
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  50. ​ @MrBigbangbuzz Here in Thailand BYD Atto 3 is the best selling ev by a wide margin. With just one model they take more than 30% market share. They are really going to dominate Asean market.
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  51. ​ @ZeusBullyMax Shanghai gigafactory saves Tesla.
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  52. No they don't have any image problem here in Asean. They dominate sales by a wide margin. Tesla uses their blade batteries for a reason.
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  53. Their third quarter net profit 2024 : USD1.6 billion
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  54. Byd is dominating here in Asean. Best selling ev by a wide margin in Thailand. They have just begun building their assembly plant to service the right hand drive market in this region and down under.
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  55. ​ @vanmore5124 Byd atto 3 has been on the road here in Thailand for almost 7 months. It's the best selling ev here. Have not heard of any battery fire so far. Their blade battery is also used by Tesla for their model Y. Tesla wouldn't have used it if it's not the safest one available.
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  56. ​ @KP-xi4bj Asean is not a poor region. Chinese evs dominate. People here have voted for affordability and value for money rather than overhyped and overpriced European imports. It is what it is.
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  57. ​ @GordonJohnson-vc8sm  Byd evs have been on the road here on Asean for more than one and half years. No reported major issue or any battery fire so far. They are no 1 here by a wide margin simply because they are affordable and reliable.
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  58. But EU is accusing them of dumping cheap subsidized cars. Do they want the Chinese to increase their prices even higher to ensure a level playing field for european brands. Byd blade battery tech is the safest. Tesla vouch for this in their model Y
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  59. They have been on the road here in Thailand for a year and a half. Still waiting for their first battery fire. BTW they are the best selling ev here in Asean by a wide margin. Reason being affordable and reliable. No wonder Tesla uses their blade batteries.
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  60. Actually they are t already there for quite sometime. In Lancaster Calif.
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  61. Almost worldwide I would say
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  62. Old footage. Don't believe everything you see on YT.
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  63. They absolutely dominate Asean, especially in Thailand. Also now building a plant here to service right hand drive market in this region and down under.
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  64. British heritage. Better now?
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  65. Bruh. Please don't stay on the nineties. EU is in a panic mode right now because of Chinese evs coming into their market. If they are crap, no one would buy them. European brands are safe and EU has nothing to worry. Right?
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  66. There are plenty reviews that support what he said.
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  67. Test driven the Atto 3 recently. Very impressive. As the saying goes, proof is in the pudding.
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  68. Not really. Byd is king of ev sales here in Asean, especially Thailand. By a wide margin, and they have been here for almost 2 years. Tesla is a distant fourth.
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  69. Yup. Cheap Charming Perfect
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  70. The problem with this world is the intelligent people are always full of doubts while the stupid ones are full of confidence. Poet Charles Bukowski
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  71. You should look up the latest quarterly earnings of BYD and Geely before posting this.
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  72. Not exactly. The lowest is actually Brunei. Then Malaysia
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  73.  @stevenjones916  Best selling EV where I am from. Thailand. Proof is in the pudding.
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  74. ​@TheEvilmooseofdoom Not just China. They dominate here in Asean. Tesla is way behind. They are also 1 in Brazil and Isreal.
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  75. ​ @aftonline  Best value proposition. That's what matters to most people looking to buy
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  76. Byd pure evs account for about 55 % of their monthly sales. 170k pure evs and 131k hybrids for Nov 2023.
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  77. Here in Asean they are just taking off. Especially Thailand. Two Chinese ev production plants will be ready before year end to support the RHD market.
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  78. Xiaomi has not released any ev so far. Their first ev SU7 is still months away from launching . Stop your bs.
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  79. VW themselves need some help as well. Situation back home don't look too rosy.
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  80. Sorry, bruh. Chinese evs totally dominate here in Asean. They are now as common as Toyotas. Soon, they will take over Australia as well, since they are already way ahead in Brazil. Wait until their plants are up and running in Hungary, Brazil, and Thailand. Besides Catl and Byd another Chinese battery maker Gotion already closed deal with Morroco to build a complete ev battery ecosystem there. Things are happening fast and furious. You have to keep up.
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  81. No one is complaining here on Asean. Chinese evs dominate the rhd market in this region. We are expecting more new models this year.
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  82. Of course he dies. BYD have a bus and truck assembly plant in Lancaster Calif for quite some time. So he knows they are best in what they do.
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  83. ​ @barbaraagar126  Why would the Chinese bother at all to interfere on your federal elections. What is there to gain from doing it. The same with US. The choice is between two senior citizens. One already bound for the nursing home while the other maybe on the way to prison.
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  84. ​@KP-xi4bj Not true. They totally dominate Asean, especially here in Thailand. By a wide margin. Top 5 are all Chinese evs. Then Tesla. They are building a plant here to support the right hand drive market. BYD evs are everywhere when as late as end of last year, I don't see a single Chinese ev on the road.
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  85. They don't just make evs. They are also the second largest battery manufacturer on the world.
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  86. Best seller by a wide margin here in Thailand. So its out right desirable here.
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  87. ​ @poli4869  You mean competition and their drive towards self sufficiency. US pressure on SKorean companies supplying the Chinese market also plays a part. inpressure from US on SKorean tech companies
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  88. ​@ghostridertom Chinese lunar new year holiday actually.
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  89. Chinese evs dominate Asean market especially here in Thailand. Top 4 are Chinese followed by Tesla. They are gonna do the same in Latin America. Cope bruh.
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  90. Do you know there are ev taxis in China since 2017. Some of them in Shenzhen have been running for almost 8 years clocking upto seven to eight hundred thousand km in mileage, using the same battery.
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  91. Seriously! German automakers sell more cars in China than at home. Just ask Mercedes,BMW or Audi
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  92. Dont know about your part of the world, but here in Asean they totally dominate. Byd is no 1 by a wide margin. Everyone else has to play catch up. It's no wonder EU is in a panic mode right now about their coming invasion of Europe.
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  93. ​ @puzer1  It's a Chinese ev, so it's unforgivable. Let's give them the third degree. They are not allowed any slip ups or technical problems like others. They are judged on totally different standards.
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  94. Not really. If you are from Thailand then you know the transition us well on the way.Our largest car dealership company has just become the exclusive distributor for BYD evs. They want to focus more on ev sales than their mainstay Japanese ice cars. As late as end of last year you will not see a single Chinese ev on the road. Now they are everywhere like Toyota and Honda.
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  95. Chinese ev Atto 3 just awarded a 5 star rating in Euro NCAP safety test. Outdoing many Euro made eV.
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  96. ​@nordlandak6853 Americans are smart enough not to buy if they are really cheap fire trap. No matter how cheap they are. You don't need high tariffs for protection. Let the market decides. Unless Washington already know the dire outcome if the 100% tariff is removed.
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  97. Probably true, if you are referring to your brain.
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  98. So you pay to keep highly paid unionised auto workers in their jobs
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  99. They are king here in Asean and the RHD market. They also would have no problem selling them in Latin America and Down Under. The world is much bigger than Europe.
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  100. Overbearing maybe but China is thd largest trading partner of Asean. All of them except Phillippines , are part of BRI.
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  101. They are the ultimate winner whichever way you want to look at. Certainly here in Asean. They are no1 by a wide margin.
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  102. Tesla uses their blade batteries because they are the safest. Never heard of any fire here in Thailand. They have been no 1 in sales since launch in Nov 2022.
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  103. Well they have been here in Asean for past 2 years. Holding up pretty well.
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  104. Explain this then.
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  105. Chinese ev maker GWM already have a plant in Thailand, before BYD.
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  106. ​ @markevans2280  Not their doing. Tariffs, import duties, greedy dealers.
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  107. Have you seen their state of the art fully robotic ev assembly plants ? Like the Nio factory in Hefei China. There are others like that.
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  108. Well not over here. They are third after BYD Seal and Atto 3.
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  109. If Chinese evs are generally more expensive than non Chinese evs in Europe, why is EU accusing them of dumping and threatening to increase more tariffs.
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  110. ​ @X5493-c7p  Not true. Byd Song is the best selling ev in China last year. Tesla Y is runner up.
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  111. Blame your govts. Tariffs, duties and greedy dealer markups.
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  112. They are no 1 here in Asean by a wide margin. Especially in Thailand. It's probably true in Brazil as well.
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  113. ​ @JoeyBlogs007  They dominate Asean as well. They just got started. Byd assembly plant in Thailand with production capacity of 150k per annum, will be up and running by June.
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  114. The problem with this world is that the intelligent people are always full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence. Poet Charles Bukowski
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  115. ​ @Javafixtime  They are not the only one now.
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  116. Their first roll roll ship already departed with 7k evs on board. The BYD and GWM plants in Thailand will be ready by year end to support the right hand drive market.
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  117. You are right. Uncle Sam and Nato are absolute angels. Never cause any conflicts or regime change anywhere. Like in the Middle East.
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  118. MG Cyberster
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  119. Yes. The same humble Xiaomi that many of you love to ridicule for making cheap home appliances. They did it in 3 years what Apple couldn't in a decade.
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  120. Battery is Korean made. It was removed for some reason and left outside to the elements.
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  121. They absolutely dominate the Asean market especially here in Thailand. Great value well built evs.
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  122. Lot safer than two wheelers. Ideal for city dwellers in China and Europe with their narrow lanes. Great for going to work and running errands.
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  123. Are you aware that EU actually demanded the Chinese evmakers to share their battery technology with them or face lock out from the European market. Obviously, the Chinese refused and the result is higher tariffs. The Chinese government already told those companies who are planning to invest and build ev factories in Europe, to ship only complete knock down kits for assembly in their European factories and not make any key components there. This is to ensure their advanced ev technology stays at home in China.
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  124. ​ @MrBigbangbuzz selling like hotcakes in Thailand. You see Atto3 everywhere. Chinese evs dominate Asean.
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  125. He just reporting the updates. He's just the messenger. Don't shoot him.
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  126. ​ @fredericoduvel3092  So why don't the big three replicate what the Chinese ev companies are doing? Not so hard.
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  127. ​ @KP-xi4bj  None that I know of. They have been on the road here for almost 2 years now. Still waiting for the first fire.
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  128. If the quality of their evs speaks for themselves, then obviously it has something to with their government polices. Whether they are paying for the trip or not.
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  129. Cope bruh. There's no stopping them. A year ago, there were no Chinese evs anywhere here in Malaysia. Now you see them everywhere. Even my neighbor just bought a Dolphin.
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  130. EU thinks it's too cheap and need to impose more tariffs.
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  131. Tesla uses Byd blade battery because it's the safest one around. So no worries about spontaneous combustion. As quality and reliability, most of their models have 5 star safety rating from Euro NCAP. So again no worries there.Spy on? Nothing really worth their time to do that either. As for admirers there are plenty here in Asean. They are top dog in ev sales by a wide margin. Their assembly plant here in Thailand should be ready in a couple of months time, to service the RHD market. That leaves dealers network and insurance which are local issues. Leave them to the local distributor to deal with. So there you go. They have only just started.
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  132. Chinese evs are dominating the Asean market especially in Thailand. Byd is building a plant in Thailand while Geely is doing the same in Malaysia. It's too late for the Europeans.
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  133. No they didn't. Despite being a relative newcomer, Byd topped mid sized ev sales in India last year.
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  134. Byd has been making electric buses in California for sometime now. China is the biggest market for the IPhone and Tesla ev. . Both are American product.
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  135. ​ @tomh1727  Why would China be any risk at all. They love manufacturing that can generate a lot of jobs. Apple has been making their phones and pads in China since 2001.
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  136. The salvage team already confirmed the fire on board the ferry off Netherlands was not caused by any ev. All 498 evs were found to be in good and undamaged condition. These ships belong to BYD, so what are you going on about.
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  137. They have plenty in reserves. Their sovereign wealth found is estimated to about US700 bilion. They have no debt. You may not be aware they have been diversifying their investments away from oil for sometime now.
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  138. Bad news. Really going to hit them hard.
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  139. They have already ended their subsidy program at the end of 2022.
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  140. ​ diemes5463  Chinese ev Zeekr X was named the best in class 2024 by Euro NCAP.
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  141. I can't think of a good reason why they waste their time and energy doing that. What do laidback Aussies do most of the time, to be considered valuable data?
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  142. There are plenty of taxis evs running around in Chinese cities like Shenzhen for almost 10 years now, ever since the city electrified their public transport system. According to these taxis drivers, they are still using the original batteries despite clocking up hundreds of thousands of km in mileage. This is an indication of their longevity. Mind you, these taxis are old models.
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  143. They are king here in Asean.
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  144. Byd is king of evs here in Asean. Total domination. Buyers here are not stupid. Proof is the pudding.
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  145. ​@Botoburst You really have to try very hard to spot a Detroit made car here in Asean. While Chinese evs are everywhere.
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  146. The Dutch government recently fined Uber 324 million dollars for sending the personal data of their drivers to the US. A violation of EU regulations.
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  147.  @rekhak8817  That was more than 10 years ago. He's certainly not laughing anymore.
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  148. ​ @KP-xi4bj  Best selling ev here in Asean by a wide margin. As well as in Brazil and soon maybe South America. Even Tesla uses their blade batteries.
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  149. Slowed not collapsed. Chinese New Year.
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  150. Proof is in the pudding. Not on hearsay. Byd Atto 3 is selling like hot cakes in ASEAN especially here in Thailand. Best selling ev.
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  151. Byd ev taxis have been servicing the city of Shenzhen in China for the past 7 years. Many of them clocking up hundreds of thousands of km in mileage without having to change their batteries.
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  152. If you force someone to make something like solar panels or ev parts against his will, do you think he will come up with a product that can pass inspection? Day in and day out under threat? You are not talking about picking cotton. These parts require some skill and know how.
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  153. That's because the Chinese are still buying what counts most for the Aussies. Iron ore.
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  154. You forgot, SKorea. They have the lowest fertility rate in the world, being 0.72. Their population is just 52 million, while China has 1.4 billion with a fertility rate of 1.28. So do the math.
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  155. Beauty lies on the eye of the beholder
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  156. Without the Chinese, it would have gone the way of Saab.
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  157. You forgot they are the workshop of the world and expect them to make all kind of stuff for you. Renewables will eventually catch up and overtake coal and fossil fuel. Aside from solar, wind and hydro they also have 25 nuclear plants under development. How many do you have in your place?
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  158. Good decision. Let's outsource more jobs to them.
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  159. Changan Avatr 11 and 12 are far better designs than any Tesla models. The same with Geely Zeekr models.
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  160. That's a given. Like what byd did. A 5 star ANCAP rating.
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  161. Why would they be? China wanted their business and markets.
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  162. China Obsever? For them the sky is always falling in China. Don't be gullible.
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  163. Why not. They are buying most of your iron ore to turn it into evs. Imagine they stop buying. Who else can replace them?
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  164. You are talking about CATL. Not some new startup.
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  165. I forgot Li Auto as well. Check all these three companies and see if what you commented needs to be retraced.
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  166. Cheap batteries used by Tesla.
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  167. Best selling ev brand here in ASEAN is another Chinese brand, BYD. Market will always decide.
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  168. ​@MikeTheBike58 He has a keen eye for quality and good taste. Thats why he's driving an Xpeng G6.
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  169. And yet Tesla uses Byd blade battery. Maybe they know more about which battery tech is the safest than random commentators who probably never driven an ev
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  170. Some Chinese evs are better than Tesla. Just check out the Huawei backed Aito brand or the Chery and Huawei Luxeed brand.
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  171. Tesla was making losses for almost a decade before they turn profitable. Xiaomi is losing right now with one model with a low production capacity of about 120k per annum. Once their second production plant is ready by mid 2025, their production capacity should hit close to 300k per annum. Then you will see a different story. They now have a huge backlog of orders with customers waiting upto 5 months for delivery.
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  172. They are just taking off here in Asean. Looks very promising for the big boys Byd, SAIC and Geely.
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  173. Shanghai gigafactory saved Tesla.
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  174. Coming from a tofu brain
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  175. But you are here nevertheless. Out of curiosity?
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  176. False information already debunked a while ago. Here in Asean, Byd is top dog. Everyone else including Tesla are playing catch up.
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  177. These German cars are anything but cheap.
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  178. There's never any free lunch at any time for Byd. The existing tatiff rate on imported Chinese cars is 27.5%. This has been ncreased to 100% with immediate effect.
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  179. Startups? BYD, Geely and SAIC have been making cars since the 90s. BYD builds electric buses in California since 2010. While Geely owns Volvo and Lotus brands while SAIC owns MG.
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  180. Byd evs selling like hot cakes in ASEAN especially here in Thailand. Best selling ev since launch in Nov 2022. The world is so much bigger than Old Europe. Europeans have to pay more for almost everything. Like gas.
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  181. It's subjective. Looks OK with me.
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  182. European Car makers are making big investments in China. They know where's the latest innovations are happening. China is miles ahead of anyone else in the ev industry. Which is why EU and US had to impose upto 100% tariffs as protection. You don't need protection if your own products are better than the cheaper imports.
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  183. Opel Manta, Corvette Stingray, Plymouth Barracuda.
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  184. Byd is building their first ev factory in Hungary.
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  185. Ugly? Only in the eyes of the beholder.
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  186. If you ask nicely, sure. Probably autographed as well by the prisoners who built it. Happy now?
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  187. But no 1 ev company here in Asean especially Thailand. By a wide margin.Tesla only managed 6th spot after 5 Chinese evs. Elon Musk dismissed and laughed at them some years ago. Today they are his biggest competitor and he relies on them for their blade batteries. So better not be like Elon and have to eat humble pie. Cope harder.
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  188. NIO has been delivering some really good sale numbers this past couple of months.
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  189. ​@SimonWebbRCandModellingChannel OMG! Very awful news for Byd. They lost a customer. Gonna hurt them badly.
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  190. Smearing won't stop them. Word already got around as how good they are. Like here in Asean, where they totally dominate.
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  191. ​ @tedmoss  You must live in the east to know this. China dominates in industries like evs, renewable energy electronics,steel, and biomedical because they are super efficient.
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  192.  @noleftturns  don't think any Chinese cars are currently imported into the US. So the tariff is not relevant.
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  193. Yes they are here in Thailand. A year ago I don't see any Chinese ev anywhere. Now they are everywhere.
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  194. ​ @fishfullness  Here in Malaysia it's mostly Byd Atto3 with an occasional Tesla. Byd Seal is starting to make an appearance as well. Looks beautiful in dark blue.
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  195. Just dump my ice and bought an ev. Just got tired of the endless engine problems and costly visits to the workshop.
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  196. Here in Asean, we prefer Chinese evs from BYD, GWM and MG. Reliable and affordable. They completely dominate the ev market here. Tesla is way behind.
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  197. ​@yulusleonard985 Byd stopped ice production in March 2022. Their pure ev and hybrids sales are almost equal in amount. Pure ev slightly more, around 54% of their total monthly sales.
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  198. There are BYD evs that have running around for almost ten years in China. With minimum battery degradation. A favourite among taxi drivers for its durability and reliability. BYD is toe to toe with Tesla in the global ev market.
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  199. The Chinese did pretty well to save Volvo and MG from disappearing entirely.
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  200. Australua is too far down under to be of any interest to the Chinese. However they do want the dirt you dug up. Lots of it.
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  201. Choices. Just like gasoline cars. V6, V8 , V10, V12. Or micro cars like Fiat 600 etc.
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  202. How can you blame them for the dealer's carelessness.
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  203. Of course not. Horse and carriage is still around and is an indispensable form of transport in some countries.
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  204. Byd owners here in Thailand do not agree with you. Unlike you, they actually own and drive one. Byd is way ahead of everyone else in ev sales here in less than a year. The proof is in the pudding.
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  205. Not true. Here in Asean, Byd totally dominates. Tesla is a distant fourth or fifth. People here go for affordability and reliability. Tesla is reliable but not affordable to many.
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  206. ​ @SmdnSnnd  Well its the reverse here in Asean. BYD is the best selling ev brand despite launching only towards the end of 2022.
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  207. The market, local and overseas determines their future. European legacy automakers have a grim future in China due to falling sales as Chinese buyers switched to local ev brands. Like GM anticipating a 5 billion loss due to poor performance of their Chinese joint ventures.
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  208. Not true. Tesla Berlin is using Byd blade battery for their model Y. They wouldnt have used it if its not the safest.
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  209. They have already replaced it with just the letters BYD for their new models in Europe. Like the Seal
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  210. BYD annual production is more than 3 million evs. The problem is there is a huge demand at home to take care off before they export elsewhere. Tesla has their gigafactories up and running while BYD just started their overseas production in Thailand and Uzbekistan. Their plant in Hungary is still under development.
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  211. They stopped making petrol cars since March 2022.
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  212. Their G6 and P7 models have 5 star safety rating from Euro NCAP. Good enough? Unless you now say you don't trust the Europeans.
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  213. I had a 20 year old gas car that was constantly in need of maintenance and parts replacement. It was a costly nightmare till I got rid of it. Gave it away to a scrap metal dealer.
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  214. Do you know that EU recently fined Uber in Netherlands a sum of USD324 million for sending their drivers personal data to the US? Which is a violation of EU regulations. Not kidding. You can fact check me on this this.
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  215. Asean is now the largest trading partner of China, replacing US.
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  216. If you go to the city of Shenzhen in China,their public transportation has gone totally electric since 2017. The city uses Byd early ev E6 model as taxis. Many of them have been running for almost 7 to 8 years clocking up hundreds of thousands of km in mileage without having to change their battery.
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  217. Can't be. I see them everywhere on our roads . As common as Toyota nowadays.
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  218. You always get what you paid for.
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  219. Tesla uses byd latest blade battery for their Berlin gigafactory. They wont if its not safe. Those fires were probably their old first gen lead acid battery.
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  220. Taste is very subjective.
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  221. We love them here in Asean. Many choices, affordable, reliable and full of tech. Hardly anyone here can afford a Porsche Taycan or Mercedes EQS.
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  222. This ev has a 5 star safety rating from both ANCAP and Euro NCAP.
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  223. You are too dramatic. Whoever buys, will have to comply with local labour laws.
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  224. It's owned by Geely who also owns Volvo. Enough said.
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  225. You protect your market by coming up with a better and more affordable product than the imports. Why would you want to pay for a more expensive but inferior car. If some foreign country is subsidizing the car I am buying, why not?
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  226. It's BS.
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  227. ​ @taleliew1  They are far ahead of their rivals. Everything except tires are made in house. Their vertically integrated set up is unrivaled.
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  228. ​ @thecatsofkipling5401  I must have been to China almost a dozen times. I control my travel schedule. No one else. Since they have granted a 15 day visa free entry it makes my travel plans much easier.
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  229. Elon Musk also ridiculed them some years ago. Today, they are his biggest competitor and he relies on them for their blade batteries. He has been eating humble pie ever since.
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  230. This is an EV channel like you said. The Chinese are the only ones launching all these beauties, one after another. Never ending. He's just sharing
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  231. ​@coolco1619 It used to be true. But not anymore, like in the auto industry. Automation coupled with complete vertical integration in the manufacturing and assembly processes have enabled manufacturers to enjoy economies of scale with increased output and reduced production costs. All these translate into cheaper cars without compromising quality. Chinese ev maker BYD is one prime example. They make everything in house except the wheels. That's why they can sell quality and reliable evs that are cheaper than their competitors. Many of their models have 5 star safety rating from Euro NCAP.
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  232. If you have been to Shenzen China, you will find BYD ev taxis everywhere. Many of them have been running for almost 8 years with hundreds of thousand of km on the road.
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  233. Zeekr owner Geely has been making cars since 1997.
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  234. They are building an assembly plant here in Thailand to service the right hand drive market in Asean. Production capacity 150k annually for both pure ev and hybrids. They have just started in this region.
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  235. They are selling evs. Not bothered with the kind of lifestyle their buyers lead.
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  236. Why do you doubt? When they say they are coming to Mexico and Europe, they did.
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  237. One just got burned here in Malaysia last week, while charging. Damaged 80% of he car and 20% of the charging station. Authorities are still investigating the cause.
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  238. Sanctions didn't stop Iran from having a nuclear program or stop them from making some pretty impressive drones. Sanction is an admission of your inability to compete and outperform your competitor. In fact it helps to motivate and work around them
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  239. ​@phillipbanes5484 Finally got rid of my ICE car and got an ev. Tried of the constant servicing and repairs and getting conned by the workshops. Especially if owner is a female.
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  240. ​ @JeffWusch  Totally dominating here in Asean. Most buyers here can't afford overpriced German evs.
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  241. They are building their factory in Hungary.
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  242. The pathetic joke is the total flop of the Apple iCar. Ten years and a billion dollars spent with nothing to show.
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  243. Almost everyone who is interested in buying an ev here in Asean, picked Byd as their first choice. The rest of the brands are way behind.
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  244. Manage your expectations. Considering the size of the market here. Its not Shanghai.
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  245. ​@magnuslarsson337 Wrong. Brazil, Australia, NZ,Central Asia,Russia( since western sanction) Gulf countries as well. It seems Even Ireland has now started taking a liking for Chinese evs. These are early days yet.
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  246. Yet VW fired their entire software team and outsourced it to the Chinese. They have also invested US700 million dollars for a 5% stake in Chinese ev maker Xpeng,specifically to tap into their ev tech and software.
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  247. Byd stopped their ICE production entirely since early 2022.
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  248. Smearing is not going to work. American automakers tried that. They had to beg Biden to impose 100% tariff to protect them from a better and cheaper competitor.
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  249. ​@colinbowman8816 If Lotus remained the same, which is building poor quality lightweight sports cars, the brand would have followed its founder to the grave. Thanks to Geely, they have evolved and adapted to remain in business.
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  250. If your fast food franchise workers can earn upto 20 dollars an hour, you have only yourselves to blame. Too expensive to make anything in America.
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  251. Byd made record profits last quarter of 2023. No turning back.
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  252. Small market.
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  253. With Chinese battery and parts.
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  254. True. Like their space station and high-speed rail. Are they still intact?
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  255. They are still the largest car market in the world. According to Chinese experts, their economy is either collapsing or in depression since the nineties.
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  256. Byd is building a plant in Hungary and is exempted from tariffs. The reason EU is imposing higher tariffs because they know the Chinese imports may take over their market and hurt their own brands
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  257. All automakers do that all the time. They can reverse whatever they want. But can they mass produced them at the same cost as the Chinese.
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  258. Very true. Can't afford one either. So let's smear it to feel good about ourselves.
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  259. That's the normal response from someone who desires something but can't afford it. So he disses it
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  260. Byd Atto 3 is the best selling ev here in Thailand. I have not heard or read about any fire incident happening here.
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  261. Do you want the Chinese to continue buying your iron ore? What's a few evs compared to the mountain of dirt you are selling to them.
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  262. Truly crap byd is no 1 here in Asean by a wide margin. No other ev is anywhere near them.
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  263. Wait till you see the reviews on Huawei's intelligent driving system in their ev brand Aito or their joint venture Luxeed S7 electric sedan. Mind blowing
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  264. They are undisputed king of evs here in Asean.
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  265. Not true at all. Chinese manufacturers control 80% of the global solar panel market. Prices have never been cheaper. It's so cheap in Europe that some people used them as fences.
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  266. They don't. Byd dominate the market here in Asean. They have been around for almost 2 years now. Haven't heard of any such incidents so far. While gasoline vehicles going up in flames are a regular feature on our roads.
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  267. Different strokes for different folks. People here in Asean region love MPVs.
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  268. ​ @mgronich948 Of course. But design in US like the iPhone. They are definitely ahead of the Chinese in the adult entertainment industry.
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  269. This is bad news. Its gonna hurt their bottom line for sure.
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  270. True. But I like their name even better.
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  271. Take a hike. They are part of the Geely group who owns Volvo as well as Lotus brands. Enough said.
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  272. There are ev taxis running around in Shenzhen, China, when their public transport system went full electric in 2017. Most are Byd E6 models and they have clocked up hundreds of thousands of km in mileage for the past 7 to 8 years of operation. None need to replace their original battery. .
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  273. Byd Atto 3 is already on the road in Australia. Any battery fire yet?
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  274. You probably know why. Like if you bought a new phone and found out that a new model is released with better specs just a couple of months later, you get upset with the phone maker. Will you do that?
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  275. ​ @heretikpapy  Lotus Emira. A real beauty.
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  276. Not from the review that I have seen. The popular Autogefuhl channel. They were quite positive about this ev and definitely a good alternative to model Y. Some comments from those who have bought or driven it confirm this.
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  277. ​@Cupid_Stunt Very true. They just got better and better. Elon Musk said recently that without trade barriers established, the Chinese will pretty much demolish all other ev companies out there.
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  278. Thats their first gen lead acid battery tech. Their latest blade battery is the safest one around. They supply this to Tesla for their model Y.
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  279. What's in a name. A rose by other name would smell as sweet. Chinese do have some really cool names. Ora funky Cat or Zeekr 001 or Avatr 11 or Leopard 5
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  280. ​@oxidalpha6350The big three automakers in US would have gone under long ago if not for huge bailout loans from Uncle Sam.
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  281. Chinese battery manufacturers Gotion and BYD are already setting up their production in Germany and Hungary.
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  282. Affordable and reliable. Why do you think EU is so worried about these evs coming into their market. Without imposing high tariffs the European brands not gonna make it.
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  283. ​ @mattjohnson9753  You got to do what you got to do. Good for him.
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  284. You do know Tesla sales in China is the 2nd largest in the market. China sales for 2020 is USD6.6billion or 20% of their total global sales. Why do you think they build their gigafactory there.
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  285. Europeans should learn from Asean. The buyers here don't pay overpriced and overhyped Europeans evs because most can't afford to. Chinese evs absolutely dominate the market because they are affordable and reliable. They know Chinese batteries are used by non Chinese automakers like Tesla because they are the safest ones around. They also know many Byd and NIO ev models have 5 star safety rating. EU is worried about their evs coming into Europe for a good reason. The only weapon they have is by imposing more tariffs to protect their own brands from being demolished.
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  286. Tesla models are bland, boring and outdated. As compared to Zeekr 001 or their 007 model. And there is the Byd Seal and Changan Avatr 12. Absolute beauties.
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  287. 70% of Americans are living from paycheck to paycheck. But willing to pay a lot more because they are patriotic. Serious?
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  288. So far no reported issue here for Byd Atto3. It is the best-selling ev here.
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  289. Apple had all the talent, tech, and financial resources, too, but failed to deliver. VW may dominate, but they are up against BYD who's in a different league.
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  290. China is Australia largest trading partner. Last year alone their exports to China exceeded USD215 billion. There no other market that absorb all of want you produce or dug out of the ground. Compare that with some imported Chinese evs. Don't bite the hand that feeds you. US is not going to replace the Chinese market.
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  291. He also said trade wars are easy to win. When Trump takes office is a very big IF, going by all the issues he's facing.
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  292. Apple has been making Iphones in China since 2009. Been 15 years and Tim Cook recently reaffirmed it remains a crucial market for Apple in terms of sales and also as its manfacturing hub.
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  293. Byd blade batteries are the safest. Tesla uses them as well.
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  294. Cope bruh. BYD ev taxis have been running in the city of Shenzhen for past 7 years without having to change their batteries. These taxis have clocked up hundreds of thousands of km in mileage.
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  295. Even your Ford Motors CEO Jim Farley owns and drives a Chinese ev. A Xiaomi SU7 Max that he shipped directly from Shanghai.
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  296. Really? A commercial plane engine is a mechanical part. How many countries have managed to build one on their own?
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  297. ​ @plau2007  My 5 year old Xiaomi smartphone is still perform flawlessly.
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  298. Byd, Li Auto and Geely. Many will not survive. That's how the Chinese govt wants it. Encourage fierce competition and the fittest to survive.
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  299. Tariffs can protect EU until Byd assembly plant in Hungary is completed.
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  300. Byd is king here in Asean, especially in Thailand and Malaysia.
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  301. Don't believe everything you see on YT. Proof is in the pudding.
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  302. ​@baphomathedude8057 Chinese evs dominate here in Asean because they are affordable and reliable. Already, there are two Chinese ev factories nearing completion here in Thailand, to service the RHD market. It's little wonder why EU is so worried about their evs coming into their market. Without imposing high tariffs, European brands don't stand a chance.
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  303. That's probably what many would have said when the car was first invented as an option to the horse and carriage.
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  304. He got it shipped directly from China. Loves driving it so much, wouldn't want to stop. Coming from an auto giant CEO, it's a huge compliment. Xiaomi rocks !
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  305. Dont know about China But here in Thailand they are selling like hotcakes. Byd is building their ev factory here to serve Asean and Australian markets.
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  306. Dont know about Europe. But they have no problem selling their evs here in Asean. There are Byds everywhere now when there were none 2 years ago. In fact I have not even heard of this company until they started appearing on our roads. They are building their plant in Thailand which should be ready before year end to service the RHD market. As for quality control, they are popular because they're affordable and reliable. I certainly have not heard of any of their evs combusting so far. Their blade battery is one of the safest available.
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  307. The more they mature the better they get. They used to make crappy ice cars back in the nineties. How far they have come within 2 decades.
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  308. Not entirely correct. Firstly, there is no US military base in Singapore. I live and work there. Secondly, except for the Phillippines, the rest of the Asean countries are neither pro US or pro China. But they do count on China as their largest trading partner and are members of their BRI.
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  309. Byd hybrid models have been around here for almost 2 years. The only vehicles that constantly catch fire are the gasoline ones. It's a regular feature on our highways.
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  310. How do you know how these workers are treated? You work with them? You know how much they are paid or how many hours they work per day? How do they disregard their environment by making these evs? Are you saying all the other industries don't do that? Industries like drilling for oil?
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  311. True for Ice cars but not evs. Just like their rockets. While China have launched thousands, the Japanese have yet to succeed even one attempt.
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  312. Elon Musk also laughed at BYD some years ago. Now he has to buy their blade batteries.
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  313. Source ; because I said so. Take it from me.
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  314.  @gabrielback5615  you get what you paid for.
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  315. Brain becomes tofu watching too many propaganda videos.
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  316. A number of BYD models achieved a 5 star safety rating g from Euro NCAP. You can check this up. If they are junk like you said , EU wouldn't be in panic mode about Chinese evs coming into Europe, would they? I call your BS.
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  317. If they are junk why is EU in a panic mode about Chinese evs coming into their market? They shouldn't be concerned at all since these evs are junk. Right,?
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  318. ​ @mickfitz76  Apple and orange comparison. Cost of living and government social benefits like healthcare there are probably a lot lower and better than in US. You also have no idea how much they earn vis- a- vis their regional cost of living.
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  319. ICE definitely. But EV no way. Just ask Toyota CEO what he thinks of EV.
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  320. There are Byd electric taxis plying the city of Shenzhen in China for the past 7 to 8 years, already clocking up hundreds of thousands of km in mileage. Without having to replace their batteries. This is Byd first generation E6 model. Shenzhen public transportation has gone 100% electric since 2017.
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  321. You can be a top notch architect designing beautiful dream homes for the wealthy. But you need a competent builder to make the design a reality. Otherwise it's just some drawings and sketches. The Chinese are the competent builders in the ev industry.
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  322. But American made cars are superior in quality while Chinese ones are junk. So I was told. They needn't worry about these junks coming to America.
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  323. Their top class blade battery for one.
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  324. Better go through your stuff to see if you are doing what you say.
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  325. Not in China. Sales dropped 31% last year.
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  326. Another 100 million dollar F35 crashed in Albuquerque. So much for your high safety standards.
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  327. Best selling ev ìn Thailand and Malaysia is the Atto 3. By a wide margin. A little over a year ago you wont see any Chinese ev in Kuala Lumpur. Now my neighbor has one.
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  328. That's the semi conductor industry. Nothing to do with ev.
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  329. You are talking about BYD. A highly vertically integrated manufacturing powerhouse in Chin. Their 4 main industries are in automobiles, renewable energy, electronics, and rail transit.
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  330. Euro NCAP tests prove you wrong. I trust them rather than your biased opinion.
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  331. They also have massive amount of cash flow and a capital equity and reserves of about 21 billion dollars along Sept 2024. Pretty sure they can service their debt obligations without problem. They estimate their total sales for this year should reach 4 million.
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  332. Why do you think so. Here in Asean region, charging is not a big issue as more and more chargers are becoming available in shopping malls, highway rest stops and petrol stations. Besides home charging. The number can only grow.
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  333. Best selling evs here in Asean are Chinese brands. Market decides.
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  334. ​ @kristofvoros6120  The Detriot Big Three have been doing a lot of milking as well over the decades. Apparantly they are too big to be allowed to fail. So Washington had to stepped in and erect a high tariff wall, to keep out the better built and more affordable Chinese imports. Can't imagine what would happen, without the 100% protection barrier.
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  335. Then you dont understand the Chinese mentality. Why Iphone is still the best selling phone despite some fierce competition from local brands. They want quality and can afford to. BYD just got it right. Quality and value for money.
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  336. So why a corporation the likes of Apple couldn't deliver one. Despite spending a decade and a billion dollars.
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  337. Chinese ev taxis have been operating in certain cities like Shenzhen for over 7 years. They have clocked up hundreds of thousands of km in mileage and still on the road. They don't even have to change their batteries.
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  338. The world is a lot bigger than just Europe. Chinese evs are dominating the market in Asean, Brazil and soon Australia. One out every five cars sold in Mexico is Chinese. They have just started. Wait till all their plants in Europe, Asia, Brazil, and Mexico are up and running.
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  339. ​@hardi.howdy.983 Unlike the rest which are well known and established brands, I didn't know Byd existed until about 2 years ago. So yes I did get carried away that this unknown brand made to the top ten list.
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  340. Their third quarter net profit 2024: USD1.6 billion
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  341. Then you should read what the VW CEO said recently at the Shanghai auto show about his USD1 billion investment to set up an ev development centre in Hefei China. Or the Airbus CEO who was with Marcon recent visit to Beijing, confirmed a new assembly line will be set up to assemble their A320 airline in Tianjin. They won't fund these mega projects if China is an unreliable partner. Quite the opposite.
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  342. It's not. It's an essential mode of transport. People dont buy evs to keep or speculate. They used them for their daily requirements.
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  343. Then you should check out this Chinese drone maker DJI, to see if your statement is true. They totally dominate the industry with almost no competition. They do this by copying themselves. None of their rival products are worthy to be copied. They are not in the same league.
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  344. Huawei has a big presence in the Middle East and South East Asia. Whole world does not just mean US and Western Europe
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  345. No force on earth can stop an idea( transition from ice to ev) whose time has come. Victor Hugo
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  346. ​ @jezza6575  In this case, he's absolutely right. Do you know VW and Audi have already shifted their ev research and development centres to China? They poured in billions, knowing that's the happening place for ev innovation. Not back home.
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  347. Then you have not been following what's happening in China lately. Sale of evs account for more than 50 % of new car sales. This percentage will keep growing. The once dominant German auto brands are in big trouble with their rapidly declining market share. It's no wonder Germany voted against EU proposal to impose higher tariffs. Norway is another example with 95% of their car sales being evs.
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  348. ​ @MrGMawson2438  Much more. Space, 6G, quantum computing, biotechnology.
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  349. Their version. Not the Heavenly Father looking down on us version.
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  350. Many Singaporeans make weekend trips to neighboring Malaysia. Can't do that with a golf cart. It takes about 4 hours to reach Kuala Lumpur and if they want to hit the beaches in the east of that country, would need at least a 3 hour coastal drive.
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  351. They dont need any of these. Modern warfare with drones, electronic, electromagnetic, hypersonic, laser.
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  352. ​ @BeastHive .Guess who buy most of the dirt you dug up. Or the seafood you harvest from the sea. Or the wine that you make from your vineyards.
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  353. Small part of the world. They are doing great elsewhere. Best selling ev brand here in Asean. They have a 53% share of the Latin American market.
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  354. 96k recalled out of 3 million sold. Meanwhile BMW recalled 1.5 million for faulty brake issue.
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  355. Will it be alright if someone else declares war on legacy car manufacturers, other than China?
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  356. It's not. You want them to make all your stuff for you. That requires a lot of energy. They are the global leader in green energy. But you can't expect it can replace all their energy needs at once. It will over time as renewable sources catch up.
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  357. Not here on Asean. They have been on our roads for almost 2 years now. Still waiting for the first case.
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  358. They are a success in Asean. Especially Thailand. They are building an assembly plant to service the right-hand drive market here and down under.
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  359. ​@jancula9 All their newer models do not carry this anymore. Just the letters. They are dominating the Asean market though by a wide margin.
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  360. Tariff is a double edge sword.
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  361. He made a fortune from that stake. Paid 225 million dollars in 2008and it was worth 6 billion dollars last year.
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  362. China is an energy storage powerhouse as well. As of 31st March, their storage capacity is around 35.3 gigawatts, second to US. They are expanding their capacity rapidly this year, especially in the north west.
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  363. Proof is the pudding. The only sure way is to own and drive one. From all the reviews I have seen, this one is as good as it looks.
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  364. All the reviews I have seen so far from those who have driven the BYD ev Atto 3, they have been pretty positive. I expect this one from Geely would be the same. Just have wait to see I reviewed.
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  365. ​ @JuicyJohnEV  If that is the reason, why Apple fail and couldn't deliver one.
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  366. They don't have to. The brand sells itself. He's just a messenger. Don't shoot him
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  367. You should check their fourth quarter net profit for 2023 ( Oct to Dec). A record USD1.06 billion.
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  368. Elon Musk also laughed at BYD some years ago. Now he has to buy their batteries and having them breathing down his neck in the ev race.
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  369. If they can build a forty thousand km high speed rail network and launched their own SPACE station, pretty sure they can come up with a good can opener.
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  370. VW invested 700 million dollars in them.
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  371. Just 63 and 58? That's nothing. Ours is 65 for both.
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  372. Tesla uses Byd blade battery for their model Y in Giga Berlin. Why? Because it's the safest battery tech available. Unless of course you know more than Tesla.
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  373. Many Byd models already achieved a 5 star safety rating from Euro NCAP. Like Atto 3, Seal and Dolphin. Shouldn't be a problem for this model as well.
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  374. ​@billienomates1606 You may laugh but you know it's true. That's the reason why Chinese evs dominate the market here in Asean. BMW and Mercedes evs are way too expensive for the locals.
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  375. They have three of the world's largest deserts. Taklimakan. Gobi and Kubuqi. Dry and desolate. Perfect for solar farms.
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  376. ​ @KP-xi4bj  Repeating the same three incidents like they happen everyday. Chinese evs have been on our roads for almost 2years and I have yet to see or hear of any one going up in flames. At least not yet. Their evs are a common sight nowadays.
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  377. ​ @BACA01  Typhoons only hsppen in the southern and northern eastern coast line. Most of their giant solar farms are located in the arid deserts in the north west. 24/7 sunny days. Free from tropical storms.
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  378. I understand. Can't afford one. So lets just slander. If they are garbage, why is EU so worried about them coming into Europe. Why need to raise tariffs. No one will buy them. European brands are safe. Right?
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  379. ​ @eugenec7130  Not forgetting SAIC which is the largest automaker in China. They can trace their beginnings back to 1940.
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  380. Why not if they pay the same like the rest. They probably may not desire Chinese ice cars but a denand for their evs. There are already railway links between Russia and Chinese as well as a natural gas pipeline connecting their Siberian gasfields to Northern China.
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  381. I bought an IPhone despite Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, Vietnam etc etc
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  382. First English speaking it means Formula Leopard. They will probably use this name outside China. Better now?
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  383. Chinese ev MG4, Chery Omoda4, Byd Atto 3 , SAIC Maxus 9 and Nio ET7 have all l achieved a 5 star safety rating from Euro NCAP. They are safer than some european models. So Chinese do have some quality stuff.
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  384. This Toyota ev is jointly developed with their Chinese partner GAC. It uses their Aion V electric SUV architecture.
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  385. It's the best selling ev here in Asean.
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  386. Slaves work in the cotton fields. Not in ev factories.
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  387. Have you heard of any public transport system anywhere in the world that generates annual profits? Like your own railways, highways and roads. Do they bring in a ton of profits? If any country wants to progress and prosper, the first thing they need is reliable transport infrastructure, to move people, goods and services. Without it, it doesn't matter if the country is richly endowed with vast deposits of valuable minerals like gold, iron ore, uranium, lithuim or whatever else you have of value. There's no way to exploit these richness and bring them to the global market. History will tell you the Roman Empire came about because they have a very good network of roads. Moving their huge army pose no problem , compared with their enemies. Some of these roads are still there today. So if a mega public transport system is not financially viable, it's not a show stopper. There are much more important payoffs for a country the size of China with 1.4 billion citizens to look after.
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  388. When Caesar was expanding his empire , do you think he asked his financial advisors if his road building program was financially viable? If it was not, would he have stopped expanding? He probably knew the payoffs were far greater than the cost of building these roads. Like in the form of more territories, more food resources, more slaves and more tributes from the conquered. China is the modern day Caesar. A highly extensive and efficient transport system is crucial for the well being of a vast country like China. No matter the cost involved. Time is money as they say in this part of the world.
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  389. ​@mikewallace8087 ??? Your comment don't make sense.
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  390. ​@lrg3834 So why the 100% tariff? Afraid the junk Chinese evs will demolish Detriot overpriced junk?
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  391. Demand is pretty good here in Asean. They have just stated.
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  392. If you knew how much it cost to own a car in Malaysia which is where I am from, you'll be first inline to grab this offer.
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  393. What intellectual property was stolen? Appreciate more details.
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  394. ​@stefan2796 Thats why EU is so worried about these crap evs coming up Europe. They fear these Chinese evs will demolish their own brands. Eventhough they are crap. Chinese crap evs are expected to be slapped with higher tariffs to protect the local brands.
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  395. Washington and EU are of a different opinion. They need to be taxed to the max because these cheap " junk" will destroy their own brands. They hope a high tariff wall will deter the competition.
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  396. You know who to blame for that price.
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  397. Evs have less parts to break down. Unlike my gasoline car. After just a couple of months of repair, my aircon unit has again stopped working. Another big repair bill. Utter rubbish. Should have dumped it and switched to an ev.
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  398. Chinese EV from Lynk & Co suv model 01 and Nio suv es8 achieved 5 stars safety rating in notoriously difficult Euro NCAP tests. Exceeding even the European models. If they can launch a space station and land a rover in Mars, evs are a walk in the park.
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  399. Let's blame the Chinese whenever a European company is in trouble. It can't be their fault. Must be the Chinese.
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  400. Not most Americans.
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  401. Loves Tesla more
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  402. Then I would never be able to buy a smartphone. A new and better model comes out every 3 months.
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  403. That was then and this is now. VW invested a billion euros in 2021 to own 50% of the company.
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  404. Not at all. Over here in Asean, evs sold are mostly pure electric.
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  405. The Americans and Europeans started it years ago. Stingray, Barracuuda. Marlin, Manta, Piranha
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  406. They make the best ev trucks and cars. Just ask Elon Musk.
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  407. Try a DJI drone from China if you are into this hobby. They are in a class of their own. No one else can come close.
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  408. ​ @virtual-viking  They are building factories in Hungary as well as Mexico. Go back a couple of years I would not have even heard of BYD.
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  409. Taiwan should stick to what they do best. Chips.
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  410. They will only confirm what he said.
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  411. Import tariffs, duties and dealers markups.
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  412. They are already no 1 in Brazil. They are building a plant there as well.
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  413. If the Atto 3 has a 5 star rating,why would this car be any less? Same company.
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  414. No. Selling for about 1 million yuan or about USD140k in China. Not 250k. Budget enough?
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  415. Chinese evs cost more than EU brands in Europe.
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  416. China has close to 50 battery manufacturing plants.
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  417. Yes for others it can be hard. But production has never been an issue with Geely. They have been making evs since 2019. Zeekr, Geometry, Emgrand, Volvo Polestar.
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  418. Haven't you read the news? EU is complaining they are too cheap because of Chinese Govt subsidies. They need to impose more tariffs.
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  419. Who else then?
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  420. ​ @mikemiller659  Even the Ford Motors USA CEO have so much faith that he bought and drives a Xiaomi SU7 Max sedan. He loves driving it so much, he's not stopping. Awesome Xiaomi!!
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  421. Geely as well.
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  422. Byd ev taxis have been plying the streets of Shenzhen in China since 2017. Many of them have clocked hundreds of thousands of km in mileage and still not needing to replace their batteries.
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  423. Byd also makes plug in hybrids. Almost 50% of their total sales.
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  424. They have already had one operating since 2019. Now they are planning the second pipeline.
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  425. ​ @melissasmess2773  Tesla uses their battery. Still want to laugh? Elon Musk laughed at them some years ago. Now he has to eat humble pie.
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  426. Somehow Tesla disturbingly uses their blade batteries.
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  427. They have a 5 star safety rating from Euro NCAP for many of their models. Good enough for you?
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  428. ​ @konsen6149  The vast amount of natural resources can be a blessing and a curse. Just like the oil and gas resources of
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  429. Gasoline powered cars require a lot more costly maintenance and servicing. Unlike an ev.
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  430. I did. Reviews from some who drove it like Wheelsboy, Telescope and Car sauce. They are unanimous in saying it's is that good. Especially for a first attempt by a non carmaker.
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  431. Oh no! This is really bad news for the Chinese. One potential customer lost.
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  432. One off and repeated often. Overblown
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  433. Sorry . Not buying your crap. I have seen BYD evs still running around in China that are ten years old and still look fine.
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  434. Their first attempt. Can only get better as they progress. Just like Tesla when they first launched. Tons of issues.
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  435. The modus operandi for most corporations worldwide.
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  436. ​ @SmdnSnnd  BYD made record profits for the past couple of quarters. Their 3rd quarter net revenue USD1.6 billion which is a 12% increase year on year. Geely made a net profit of USD1.49 billion for the first half year 2024, which is an enormous increase of 575% year on year. I don't have thr numbers for the other big Chinese ev companies.
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  437. Why do they need rockets?
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  438. Chinese company Geely save Volvo from Ford
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  439. Don't just stop at cars.
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  440. EU doesn't think so when they impose their high tariffs. They know theirs cannot compete with the better built and cheaper Chinese imports. Full protection is necessary to avoid being demolished.
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  441. Rolex days are numbered. No Gen Z will be caught wearing them.
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  442. ​ @itekani  Xisomi chairman already said to those who can't wait upto 6 months to get theirs. He recommended some rival brands they can switched to. Deposit will be refunded. I like his no bs approach.
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  443. ​ @rishinarang9966  Lotus cars are better built now than they were during their British hey days. For those who dislike evs, there's the Emira . A 3.5 litre supercharged V6 Toyota engine beauty. For evs enthusiasts, they can pick either the Eletre or the Emeya.
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  444. Tesla Y, Zeekr 007, Avatr 11, Porsche Taycan, Xpeng P7. All beauties.
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  445. No they have no intention of conquering the West. They do want to do business. You buy their evs and they buy your commercial planes or luxury goods etc. Where I am from, they buy our edible oils and petroluem products while we buy a lot of their smartphones and electronic devices. Trade is always two way.
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  446. What fire issues? They have been on the road here for more than a year. Waiting to hear about the first fire.
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  447. Slave labour? We are not talking about picking cotton here.
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  448. Not as likely as if you are driving a gasoline car. I have witnessed two ev fires so far this past couple of years but plenty of ice vehicle combustion incidents. And I do mean plenty.
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  449. Too late bruh. The word has already gone around as how good the Chinese evs are. They are coming like the plague down under.
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  450. Byd is no 1 in China by a wide margin.
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  451. The world is a lot bigger than Western Europe. Here in Asean, BYD is the best selling ev brand. Apparently they have a 53% share of the market in Latin America.
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  452. Byd is the king here in Asean, especially Thailand. Total domination in years to come. Their assembly plant will be operational by year end to support the right hand drive market. What are you talking about?
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  453. Irrelevant as it is not available in our part of the world. I rather have my two hands on the wheel and see where I am going.
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  454. Most probably battery from South Korean company LG Chem. If they used Byd blade battery, there will be no issue. Tesla uses Chinese batteries from CATL and Byd for their model Y and X in their Berlin gigafactory. They wouldn't have unless its the safest battery tech available. Chevy Bolt ev experienced many battery flies because of LG Chem battery.
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  455. SAAB could have been saved like Volvo,if the Chinese were given the opportunity to buy them.
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  456. Taiwan maybe. South East Asia not happening.
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  457. Without the Chinese. VOLVO and MG would have been history. You should thank them.
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  458. Proof is in the pudding. Not by watching YT. They are no 1 here in Asean because they are reliable and affordable. Market decides.
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  459. Warren Buffet sold part of his investment in BYD for profit taking. Like any investor would when the price is right. His original investment of USD228 million was worth close to USD6 billion in 2023. He would be a fool not to sell some.
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  460. They are kings here in Asean. Byd has been no 1 best-selling ev since launching in late 2022.
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  461. But they will. Eventually. Like their space program and high speed rail
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  462. Subjective.
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  463. Where do you think most of your car parts come from? Top three exporters are Germany,China and Japan. Of the top 100 global automotive suppliers, 14 are Chinese.
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  464. EU is so worried about Byd coming into their market. They are talking about imposing more tariffs to prevent their citizens from buying this crap car and killing their brands.
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  465. You are talking about BYD. All in good time
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  466. You get what you paid for.
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  467. Always underestimating the Chinese. They are counting on this while quietly moving ahead without attracting attention. Just like they did with their space station and Mars rover. Nasa was pretty sure they can't pull it off without foreign aerospace knowhow and assistance.
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  468. Speaking out of your rear end. Byd is king here in Asean and soon Down Under. Even EU is worried about them coming into their market. If they are poorly built, EU has nothing to worry at all. No one will buy them. So just let them in without increasing existing tariff rate. Right?
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  469. BYD made a net profit of about 34 billion yuan for 2024 or USD 4.7 billion. I don't see them going under.
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  470. ​ @timothykeith1367  Chinese evs are not available in US. Your point is moot. If you want to know how their good their sales and support are, you should find out what BYD is doing here in Asean. We have a very engaged distributor here who does more than that. They actually organises social gatherings with their ev owners to allow them to clarify any doubts they may have about their evs. So it's no surprise that they are the best selling ev brand
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  471. China constantly threatens US? I think the reverse is true. Endless sanctions, blacklisting and fear mongering. Smithsfield acquisition by the Chinese is very well publicized in the American press. Similarly with Volvo. Ford incompetence almost destroyed this company. It would have gone under if not for the Chinese.
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  472. ​ @KP-xi4bj  Dont know about China but none here in Asean so far. Chibese evs have been around for almost 2 years and they are everywhere now. The owners here know better as they are driving them daily.
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  473. Well they buying them here in Asean.
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  474. ​ @nyaodavid Yet Tesla uses their blade batteries for their model Y. Do you know more than them?
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  475. That's just how China wants it to be. Fierce competition to push them to think out of the box, make best use of resources and drives productivity and innovation. In the end only the best performing and toughest ones remain standing to take over those that fail. It can only be good for the consumers.
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  476. Then just do your part to fight climate change. Good enough reason to go for an ev?
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  477. China's EV companies BYD and Great Wall were recently awarded a 5 star safety test rating by Euro NCAP for their ev Atto3 and Ora Funky Cat. You should keep up with the latest ev developments. They are evolving every minute.
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  478. Already 60% of Americans are living from paycheck to paycheck. You want more homeless on your streets?
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  479. EU is worried for no reason then. No European will buy Chinese evs. No need to impose more tariffs . Right?
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  480. Ev don't have too many parts.
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  481. ​@KP-xi4bj Both these gompanies have been making cars since when? Forties or fifties? Byd started making plug in hybrids only in 2008 and full electric car in 2009. Apple and orange comparison.
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  482. That's not true. This authoritarian country controls 80% of the global solar panel market. Prices have never been cheaper. It's so cheap in Europe that there are people who used these panels as fences.
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  483. Not true at all. This so called authoritarian country controls 80% of the global solar panel market. Prices have never been cheaper. It's so cheap in Europe that some people used them as fences.
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  484. Tesla gets the same amount of government subsidies like the rest of the other Chinese ev makers. 20K yuan or approx USD2830. Check before making false claims.
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  485. If that's true, why EU is all over the place,worrying about the Chinese ev invasion. Threatening to impose higher tariffs to protect their own. No one in Europe including you will buy rubbish Chinese evs. Right?
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  486. In the Chinese city of Shenzhen, all their taxis have gone electric since 2017. Most of these taxis are the Byd E6 ev model. Many of these taxis have been running for the past 7 years, chalking up hundreds of thousands of km in mileage, without having to change their batteries.
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  487. ​ @blaydCA  No they don't. It's their proprietary blade battery technology. The same batteries Byd used for their own models as well.
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  488. ​ @sheepyracing2774  Europe is a small part of the world. There's huge potential in Asia and Gulf countries. Chibesd evsxare already well known in these regions.
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  489. ​ @sheepyracing2774  Europe is a small part of the world. Huge potential here in Asean as well as Gulf countries. Byd already well known in these regions.
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  490. Catastrophic collapse? They have 1.4 billion already. If you explore their far western and South west provinces%, away from the heavily populated eastern coastal region of mega cities, you will find that's not true.
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  491. It never will. Sorry to disappoint you.
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  492. I bought a Ford Ranger days before Bush launched Desert Storm 2 in Iraq on the grounds that Saddam had many WMD. I regretted my decision till this day when the lies were exposed.
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  493. Cost about I million yuan or about USD140,000 in China. Not 250k.
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  494.  @jthunders  What's a wumao. Being an Indonesian I could be ignorant.
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  495. Facts don't care about your beliefs
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  496. BZ4x is built in Japan. Byd JV with Toyota involves only their BZ5 n X models.
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  497. That's how most new products start. Till word gets around, and user reviews reaching the wider audience. All this takes time and money.
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  498. You are actually referring to the Tata Corpn from India. They seem to make everything from pins to planes.
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  499. Then explain why Tesla model Y is still the best selling model in China.
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  500. Here in Asean, people absolutely love MPV like this . Different regions different tastes.
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  501. Proof is in the pudding . Not some Chinese videos. Have also read about Byd early E6 ev model which is used as taxis in Shenzhen. Some of them have accrued hundreds of thousands of km in mileage over the past 7 years as taxis in that city. Without having to replace their batteries . Public transportation has gone 100% electric in Shenzhen since 2017. Very easy to verify how the electric taxis and buses are doing so far.
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  502.  @luckybiby8968  BYD does that in California but still not eligible. From what I read.
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  503. Byd ev is the best selling brand here in Asean. Have not heard of any going up in flames so far. They have been around for almost 2 years. Meanwhile gasoline cars catching fire are a common feature here.
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  504. Sold down for profits. Who wouldn't. His stake was bought in 2008 for 228 million dollars. It's worth almost 6 billion dollars last year.
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  505. ​ @crosslink1493  Just went to my regular home appliances shop to buy a new fridge. Specifically asked for a Mutsubishi like my old one. Salesperson said they no longer carry the brand. In fact they no longer carry any Japanese fridge brands. Now mostly Chinese ones like Hisense or Midea or Haier. He recomnended Hisense based on favorable feedback and reviews from his customers. He said he's getting less and less Japanese home appliance brands as many have stopped production. Now mostly Chinese or Korean Samsung and LG. The only thing Japanese in his shop is the Sony wide screen TV. Just read a news article that the Japanese govt is considering hiring the Chinese rail engineering firm CRRC to build a track less and rubber tyred tram to transport hikers and tourists up the Mt Fuji scenic area. To help reduce the carbon footprint and overcrowding. Don't know why they couldn't do it themselves.
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  506. Here in Asean, MPV like this is very popular. The average family size where I am from is 5. So this fits their needs nicely.
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  507. They dont need these at all. If they want to invade, Taiwan can expect a barrage of hypersonic missiles, swarm drones, high energy laser beams, all aiming straight at Taipei.
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  508. ​@Rampart.X They also generate a huge amount of green energy from their gigantic solar, wind farms, hydrodams, and nuclear power plants. They still need to burn coal until these renewable sources can replace it. They are the workshop of the world and demand for energy is humongous.
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  509. Can you back up your accusations with more details. Like what specific tech was stolen and from whom it was stolen? Please don't leave out any details.
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  510. Prototypes are easy. Production is hard. The difficulty of going from prototype to production is 10000% harder to get to volume production than to make the prototype. And then is even harder to reach positive cash flow. Elon Musk
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  511. ​ @stefan2796  If that the case then EU and US have absolutely nothing to worry about these Chinese evs coming into their market. Surely there's no need to impose huge tariffs on them. No one will buy such crappy evs. Biden is so spooked he rushed to impose 100% tariff protection even when they are not for sale there. Crazy isn't it?
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  512. You should come over here in Asean. They are as common as Toyota now. Proof is in the pudding. Affordable and reliable
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  513. ​ @dzonikg  Established, well known and expensive may not necessary be always better in quality. You are paying extra for the brand.
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  514. It's not cheap here in Asean. But they dominate the market. No one else can come close. Reason being they are cheaper than Tesla and very reliable as a daily drive.
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  515. Bruh. They are everywhere here in Thailand. As common as Toyota. So they take over the entire Asean market.
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  516. You have a point here. For example here in Malaysia, BYD is the best selling ev brand, outselling Tesla and everyone else. It could be due to the commitment put in by their exclusive distributor to aggressively push the brand. Like opening their 3S centres( sales, service and spare parts) all over the country. As well as organizing get togethers with their customers whenever they achieved a milestone in sales.
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  517. They don't need too many. They already control 80% of the global market. Consolidation in any industry is inevitable and desired, to ensure only the strongest remain.
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  518. Tesla is all about innovating but the Chinese and Japanese are excellent at copying and refining. Sure buddy. Tesla should stop using their batteries then. Tesla should innovate one of their own since they are all about innovation.
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  519. So if you want to sell your other non car products, you will come up against someone else wall garden.
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  520. ​ @AdRock  I buy one just for its cool name.. Xpeng. Like XMen. Totally unique
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  521. ​ @themonsterunderyourbed9408 The only ev company making a profit? Have you check the third quarter profits of BYD?
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  522. He's just one of countless car reviewer you find on YT. A dime a dozen. You choose what you feel is right for you, regardless of what someone else opinion. Which is what Jim Farley Ford Motors CEO did when he pick a Chinese ev, Xiaomi SU7 Max sedan as his daily drive. He had it shipped directly from Shanghai, since it's not available outside China. You should hear what he has to say about his ev.
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  523. ​@OverlandExpedition Elon Musk thought so when he laughed at BYD for building shite cars some years. How things have changed. Today they are his biggest competitor and he buys their blade batteries.
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  524. Chinese ev crap have totally dominate the market here in Asean. Launched less than 2 years ago , they are now as common as Toyotas. They are now everywhere when there were none at all, less than 2 years ago.
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  525. Because it's already in most western mindsets that anything made on China has to be cheap. God forbid they cost more than American or European made.
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  526. 5 star safety rating from your own Euro NCAP. More stars than some Europen brands.
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  527. Proof is in the pudding. Many were also concerned about their space station falling from space. Its still hovering up there. EV is a piece of cake compared with their space vehicle.
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  528. ​ @johnnyng8527  This is exactly what one BYD owner did in rural Australia. The area power was down and her son was in desperate need to hook on to his home dialysis machine. She connected it to her BYD Atto 3 battery. Saved his live because she chose to go electric.
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  529. ​ @thorblau7943  They also invested in Xpeng
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  530. Chill. He's just reporting the news.
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  531. 70% of Americans are living from paycheck to paycheck. You are telling me they don't mind paying a lot more because they are patriotic? Serious ?
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  532. Out of curiosity, what kind of spare parts are needed regularly for an ev?
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  533. Their phones are top notch. Have stuck to this brand from day one after experiencing my first phone with them. Mi9T with the periscope lens that came out about 5 years back. Still using it today. No issue at all. The lens still pop up after 5 years of continuous usage.
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  534. Large MPVs are very popular here in Asean.
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  535. They have no problem selling them here in Asean.
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  536. First ev released. So it's a bit dated now. The Atto refresh should be ready next year.
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  537. So what are they going to do with all these non stop blabbling nonsensical conversations collected?
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  538. Nah. It's a copy of a pick up.
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  539. Of course they are. That's why Washington is so worried about them coming to America. So what do they do? Impose 100% tariff to protect their auto industry from getting hammered by cheaper and better made imported ev. Haha
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  540. ​@icosthop9998 Meanwhile, Chinese ev makers Byd, SAIC and Chery are already planning to set up their factories in Mexico.
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  541. They are way ahead of Honda and already several small evs on the road. Wuling Bingo, Wuling Air,Byd Seagull to name a few.
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  542. ​@ev.whyking But can you explain why he has so many followers of his channel. While many expert reviewers of Chinese evs out there cant come even close. Including my favorite Wheelsboy who actually test drive them on location. I have not seen him actually getting into an ev and do a real time review. He's an ev news reader. That's it
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  543. Tofu brain with the same tofu comment
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  544. Of course they will. They are no 2 in ev sales, after BYD.
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  545. The world is so much bigger than old Europe.
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  546. It's exactly what mist people need. A no frills and affordable car that can take you from A to B on a daily basis.
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  547. ​ @must205  Never bet against a battery maker like BYD. They are the second largest in the world. They have been building ev buses in California for more than a decade. Tesla uses their blade battery.
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  548. Wife's medical expenses probably.
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  549. They totally outsell Telsa here in Asean. They just got started. Their assembly plant in Thailand with a planned annual production capacity of 150k cars will be ready by year end. To support the RHD market here and Down Under.
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  550. When they said that they are going to build their space station, after been banned from ISS, I too thought it's was just their Overhyped BS.
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  551. I also once called their plan to build their own space station an Overhyped BS.
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  552. Clever is not enough. You must be able to deliver one that impresses. Something that Apple couldn't do, despite their vast resources at their disposal.
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  553. That should be the way. Commendable.
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  554. ​@stefan2796 For now. They are already a global leader in installing and generating green energy. As the workshop of the world they can't stop using coal until renewables can catch up.
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  555. Xiaomi is the new kid on the Block. First attempt at building ev. Byd is a different animal. EU is very concerned about them coming into their market. For a very good reason. These imports are better built, more affordable and more connected than anything that EU can come up with. Only imposing higher tariffs can protect the European brands from being demolished. Just as what Elon Musk advised them to do.
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  556. Evs are most welcome in my city. Started with cars and now the government should consider electrifying our public transport and commercial vehicles. Enough of noisy and polluting trucks, buses and taxis.
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  557. So far, they have kept their word. No Chinese evs. They have the rest of the world as their market. US can wait.
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  558. Well there are no Chinese evs yet in US. So they are not lying. The rest of the world is big enough for them.
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  559. The Chinese already have better ADS than Tesla. Huawei Quankun and Xpeng XNGP.
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  560. Why would they do that? All Chinese. Makes no difference to CCP.
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  561. Very true. EU is worried for no reason about Chinese evs coming into their market. Like you said they are crap and no European will buy them. No need to impose more tariff. Just let them in. The same with US. Why the need to impose 100% on their junk evs. No American will buy them. Let the market decide.
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  562. Huawei and Xpeng already their own self driving tech. China already have robotaxis in Wuhan and Shenzhen. Nothing new for them.
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  563. Not really. It's already here in Singapore and next will be our neighbor Malaysia, regardless of the Taiwan issue. That's between China, Taiwan n US. Nothing to do with Asean. We just welcome the old lady Pelosi and also at the same time building economic ties with China. We are good both ways.
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  564. ​@alfaeco15 Chinese have their own ADS which are on par or even better than FSD. Like Huawei's Qiankun and Xpeng's XNGP.
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  565. Not here in Asean. They totally dominate and has become as well known as Toyota. They will take over the RHD market here as well as Australia. They are already no 1 in ev sales in Brazil
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  566. Not affordable for most Thais. Byd is king here. Tesla is way behind a few other Chinese brands. Byd and GWM already have their plants up and running. To support the RHD market.
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  567. National highways and public transportation also never ever pay for themselves. Of course this hyperloop thing is never gonna be feasible. But it does provide an opportunity for those who work on it, to learn, hone their skills and see how far they can go with it. Not entirely wasted.
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  568. Alfas ate almost mjn existent here in Asean. Can't recall when I last saw one on the road.
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  569. True. Collapsing since the nineties. According to many China experts their doomsday was supposed to be during their covid lockdown years.
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  570. Those fire issues occurred in their old first generation lead acid battery tech. Now their latest blade battery tech is the safest one around. Tesla Berlin use this battery for their model Y.
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  571. The proof is in the pudding.
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  572. Dont know about their ev but their high speed rail will blow your mind. Moving almost silently at 350 kmh. My preferred mode of transport whenever I'm in China.
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  573. Yet many of their models from BYD, Nio and Xpeng have achieved 5 star safety ratings from Euro NCAP. This is one reason why EU is so worried about them coming into their market. Affordable and reliable. If they are deathtraps like you said, EU wouldn't be the least concerned about Chinese evs. Why bother to investigate and threaten more tariffs? European brands are safe. No will buy Chinese. Right?
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  574. Of course it is. They have been running on the roads here in Asean for more than a year. Never heard of any fire so far.
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  575. ​ @KP-xi4bj  They are no 1 here in Asean as well. As well as Brazil.
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  576. VW have shifted their entire ev production from their Wolfsburg home in Germany to their new home in Hefei, China. They do this for a good reason. The Chinese builds the best evs in town.
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  577.  @oscarholman  Chinese MG ZS is the best selling ev here in Thailand. Byd just launched their Atto 3 model and ppl were queueing at the dealership early hours on opening door. Huge market here for affordable evs. Tesla or Taycan are out of reach for an average Thai consumer. Chinese evs are gonna dominate here in South East Asia.
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  578. ​ @havencat9337  Byd came to Thailand less than 2 years ago. Toyota established their first sales office in Bangkok back in 1957.
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  579. Also have a look at BYD third quarter profits.
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  580. 4 or 5? Definitely room for more. Maybe at least 8 or 9 viz Byd, Geely, SAIC, GAC Motors, Li Auto, Chery, GWM and NIO.
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  581. Then why do we buyers here in Thailand have to wait months for our Byd ev? Their Atto 3 is no 1 here. They have just broken ground on a new assembly plant here to service Asean, Oceania markets. The best selling ev in our neighboring country Indonesia is another Chinese ev Wuling Air. Besides Asean they have no problem selling in Gulf countries, Latin America. For get Europe, not priority.
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  582. ​@tomascermak9205 China communist? The Mao era is long gone. Communists won't be able to come up with an ev like this.
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  583. Do you know your beloved VW Beetle copied the Tatra 97 and got sued.
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  584. ???. There are millions who live on planet planet once and never driven a car or ridden a two wheeler.
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  585. ​ @antwango  The Beetle actually copied the Tatra T97 and got sued. It's not original.
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  586. The Wright Bros were also probably ridiculed and laughed at for suggesting they can make man fly like a bird.
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  587. Don't understand this going under comment.
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  588. Fake info that has been debunked a while ago.
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  589. ​ @kallekas8551  I am still using iPhone 8. Almost 7 years now. No plans to upgrade. Will use till Apple stop supporting it.
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  590. Already debunked.
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  591. Graveyard? Are u kidding? Some Chinese evmakers are trying to ramp up their production to reduce delivery time to their customers.
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  592. Sure. Like how I did until recently. Just had enough of the constant breakdowns and maintenance cost. Tired of being scammed by mechanics. Dump the junk and got a very affordable BYD Dolphin.
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  593. Byd and Geely were established back in 1995 and 1986. They have just started in the ev business.
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  594. Fortunately looks are subjective. In the eyes of the beholder.
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  595. Byd has nothing to do with this car. This is entirely built by Toyota in Japan.
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  596. Translate as Formula Leopard. Good enough?
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  597. 60% of Ameticans are just one paycheck from homelessness.
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  598. ​ @paulb1951  US does that to right at this moment. The offensive has started. But you don't have an issue with it.
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  599. ​@BACA01 You are talking about their junk ice cars from the 90s. It's 2024, the era of Ev. It's now the Chinese turn, after the Japanese and Koreans.
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  600. In your wet dreams perhaps.
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  601. ​ @ssing7113 Is making this and that. Let's see if all these materialise.
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  602. ​ @lobbyskids2 No need to steal. Huawei and Xpeng have better software.
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  603. Also by hydro, wind , solar as well as nuclear power. Don't forget they are also the biggest green energy producers in the world.
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  604. No it's not. Entirely by Toyota. Repeated many times. Still asking.
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  605. ​ @whynotstartusingyourbrain8726 Rejected everywhere outside China? BYD is king in Asean. Soon maybe down under once more models are avaliable. They also lead in Brazil.
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  606. Ice cars yes. But evs no.
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  607. ​ @ChiTsang  Byd Seal and Atto 3 are among the best selling evs here in Asean together with Tesla 3. Market decides.
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  608. Not true. Byd Atto 3 is the best selling ev here in Thailand since it was launched in Nov 2022.
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  609. Their sky don't lie. Visited Beijing for the first time in 2005 and the air quality was really bad on some days. Went back in January 2020 and the difference was between night and day. Clear blue sky all the 2 weeks I was there. Despite the fact that the city's population and number of vehicles on their roads have increased immensely. The city authorities must have put in an enormous amount of effort to achieve that. Winter time in the city in the past accounts for the most number of polluted days,due to increase in burning of coal for heating purposes.
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  610. ​@fractalelf7760 Labor cost advantage? Have you seen some of their factories? They are fully automated with minimal manual labor involved. You should check out Nio F2 assembly plant in Hefei China.
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  611. Too big to fail.
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  612. They are undisputed king of evs here in Asean region. Everyone else is way behind.
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  613. Byd has been on the streets here in Thailand for more than a year. Not heard of amy fire so far. Unlike ICE.
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  614. You got it right. Not just no oil but also those who have access to cheap renewable energy. Prime example is the not so well to do country of Nepal. Small market but 85% of cars sold there are evs. Fuel is expensive due to 70% fuel tax . EV tax is just 10%. The country is mostly powered by hydroelectricity as well. So it's the perfect market for ev adoption.
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  615. CATL is the biggest battery mfg in the world. They always walk their talk.
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  616. ​ @copaloadofthis  Proof is in the pudding. Buy one and find out.
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  617. National security risk for Ford and GM.
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  618. Not true at all. There are two nuclear power stations about 40km from Shenzhen. The Daya Bay and Lingao Power station that provide clean energy not only to Shenzhen and Guangzhou but also supply almost 80% of HongKong energy needs. As for the rest of China, it will be a matter of time before renewables overtake fossil fuel as their main energy source. Carbon neutral emission is targeted to reach by 2060. China is the largest green energy producer in the world. They have 55 nuclear power stations in operation with another 25 under construction. Another 70 under planning stage. A little research before commenting is highly recommended.
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  619. Built in Japan but blame China. Some ppl just can't believe the Japanese can also make mistakes. EV is not their forte. Unlike ice cars.
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  620. Sure if you can't afford one. Makes you feel better I suppose.
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  621. ​@KP-xi4bj None where I am from. So far. Still waiting
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  622. They can't sell fast enough here in Asean. Chinese evs, especially BYD, are everywhere. As late as early 2023, you don't see any on the road. Now even my neighbor bought a Dolphin recently. Nice compact daily city drive.
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  623. The entire world wants China to make all kinds of stuff. So they gladly outsourced their pollution problems to them. You should be thankful China is doing just that to satisfy your wants/ needs while at the same time trying very hard to replace their dirty coal plants with renewables. They are doing a sterling job with little or no help from the rest.
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  624. Tofu brain
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  625. . There were plenty of doubters when they say they were going to build their own space station after been banned fro. ISS. I laughed too. The Chinese always walk the talk.
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  626. They are neither EVs or ICEs
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  627. ​ @user-nh1yb9mk7y  European automakers wanted access to the huge Chinese market and were willing to go into a partnership. So it depends on who is calling the shots and has the upper hand. If the Chinese badly wants access to the EU market and avoid those tariffs, then quite possible they will agree to a 50: 50
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  628. Thd question is can you afford one in the first place.
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  629. For now. Not in the future. They are already the largest producer of green energy from wind, solar, hydro, and nuclear. More than the rest of the world combined. They have targeted 2060 to be carbon neutral.
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  630. You can easily check which Chinese evs have recd a 5 star Euro NCAP safety rating. I know BYD Atto 3 and GWM Ora Funky Cat did. There's are a couple of others.
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  631. Then let the market decides to gauge the response. Biden is too afraid of that. So imposed 100% tariff before they could arrived. 27.5% is not enough to protect his auto industry.
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  632. As someone who has been there recently, the improvement in both cities air quality has been remarkable. Especially in Shenzhen where a smoggy day is an exception. Largely due to their fully electrified public transport systems and high adoption of electric vehicles, compared with other Chinese cities.For Beijing, there are a lot more good days than bad. The bad days are usually during winter because more coal is burned for heating purposes and changes in weather patterns. The last winter wasn't bad at all. Great progress.
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  633. Their SU 7 is already in production and on sale since end March in China. Their latest monthly sales are around 15k to 20k. Could be higher if they can produce more. Which is something they will do next year when their second production plant is ready. As for this Ultra , we just have to wait and see.They did it in 3 years what Apple failed to do in a decade of trying.
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  634. ​@faheemabbas3965 BYD is the best selling ev here in Asean. Never heard of the company till 2 years ago when their evs started appearing on our roads. Fire? None so far.
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  635. ​ @darylfoster7944  Byd is the exception.
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  636. For autonomous driving software, you should check up Huawei Level 4 Xinghe intelligent autonomous driving solution or Xpeng Level 4 Turing AI Intelligent Driving System.
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  637. Who to blame? Definitely not Xpeng
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  638. Nio has its own supercharger network as well as battery swapping stations. They also have some of the loveliest evs in my opinion. ET5 or ET7
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  639. Their phones never disappoint. Being a lifelong user. Should check out their latest flagship Mi14 Ultra. Awesome.
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  640. Blame your tariffs, import duties and greedy dealers mark up.
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  641. Oh No! This is very bad news for Byd. It's gonna hurt their bottom line.
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  642. Does
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  643. This happens when you bite the hand that feeds you. Don't get involved in their affairs and their cash will continue to flow without interruption. Always remember China made Down Under rich.
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  644. Despite this, like Tesla the best selling smartphone last year was Iphone 13.
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  645. ​ @paulb1951  Why don't you asked him.
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  646. Ora Funky Cat. What a cool name! Zeekr 01 or Avatr 11. Equally cool.
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  647. ​ @gothmog2441 Not just in China but also in Asean as well. Wiling Bingo
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  648. No. Afraid. Hence 100% not 50 or 70% tariff. Thats not enough protection. Biden knows Detriot will be hammered if Americans get a taste of affordable and better built cars than their own pricey Detriot junk.
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  649. Changan Avatr 12 is a real headturner. The Chinese are coming up with some beauties. Imagine some years ago Elon Musk laughed at BYD for making shitty cars. Today they are his biggest rival and soon to take his crown. He even has to buy their blade batteries for his model Y. Eating humble pie
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  650. When a company like BYD claims their battery can go 1000km you better believe it. Elon Musk already made the mistake of laughing at them. Now they are breathing down his neck. He even has to use their batteries, adding injury to insult.
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  651. Slave robots you mean. . Stolen IP products ? Don't stop there . Appreciate more details about what , who, where and when. Not that I don't believe you.
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  652. The taxi and bus services in the Chinese city of Shenzhen have gone full electric since 2017. These taxis ate the first gen Byd E6 models. Many of them have been running for the past 7 years, clocking in hundreds of thousands of km in mileage, without having to change their batteries.
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  653. Byd Atto 3 been on the road here in Thailand for 6 months now. Best selling ev and have not heard of any battery fire so far.
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  654. You mean Rivian.
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  655. Very true. You can't spot a Detriot made junk here in Asean.
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  656. According to Trump trade wars are easy to win. Despite increasing your tariffs on Chinese imports, China achieved a trade surplus of USD279 billion for 2023.
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  657. ​ @gregkelly2145  China is not a charity . No country makes deals that put them on the losing side. Born yesterday?
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  658. ​ @gregkelly2145 China is not a charity. No country will do deals that are not in their favor.
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  659. ​ @mattjohnson9753  They have stopped being Communist a long time ago. They are social capitalist that outcapitalize the western capitalists.
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  660. His hands are already full with X.
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  661. Not Warren Buffet and Munger . They made a fortune with their hunch on Byd. Their 228 million dollars investment was valued around 6 billion dollars last year.
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  662. True. They are the safest.
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  663. ​ @tooltalk Tesla uses them.
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  664. The battery is the brain of the ev.
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  665. Ford Barracuda, Opel Manta, Corvette Stingray, Plymouth Roadrunner, VW Beetle, Chevrolet Impala, Dodge Viper.
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  666. Why would ego maniac Elon agree to this ridiculous suggestion.
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  667. Predation? China is not getting their stuff for free. The only reason why the Aussie economy is not in any trouble is because of the Chinese appetite. If they dont want sell to them, who else will take all that mountain of dirt they dig up? Or all the wines they bottled or the seafood they harvest. They know better than to bite the hand that feeds them.
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  668. Chinese ice cars. No their evs.​ @MrBigbangbuzz 
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  669. He's just providing the latest news and updates from various sources. Not his own. Dont shoot the messenger.
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  670. You should do a bit of research and see how many Chinese evs have 5 star safety rating from Euro NCAP. Safer than many Euro brands. Unless if you say you don't trust European testing.
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  671. Who? Detriot ?
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  672. Yup. No one can make them like they do.
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  673. They are just taking off here in Asean. Looks promising for the big boys like BYD. Their evs are now everywhere where there were none back in early 2023.
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  674. ​ @benzine8885  Tesla also uses Chinese batteries from CATL and BYD. Battery is the brain and most expensive part of an ev. The last thing any automaker should copy from Tesla is their design. Boring
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  675. He knows Teslas built in Shanghai are better built than those in Fremont Calif. Elon Musk himself confirmed this by bringing in his Shanghai team to teach them how to do it right. Governor Newsom just want the best for his state.
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  676. Both these products are the result of a lot of Chinese inputs and labor. The best Teslas are built in Shanghai.
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  677. Chinese evs have been here in Asean for almost 2 years now. Byd dominate half the market here. Haven't heard of any Chinese evs burning so far. While this happens to gasoline vehicles quite often.
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  678. There are ev taxis operating in the city of Shenzhen in China since 2017 when their entire taxi fleet went full electric. Some of them, nostly Byd E6 model have clocked up hundreds of thousands of km in mileage without having to change their original batteries. Hope this answers your concern
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  679. You are talking about making cars , not picking cotton.
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  680. Already debunk. They didn't cause the fire. The salvage team found all their evs undamaged.
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  681. Yet Tesla uses Byd blade batteries for their model Y. They must know what they are doing. I go with them rather than some random comment on YT.
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  682. Evs don't require too many parts. They are already well established here in Asean. While you talk, they work.
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  683. Largest market in the world. I suppose.
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  684. You'll be spoilt for choice.
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  685. George Bush Jr I a war criminal that escaped justice. I hope you are not buying anything American made.
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  686. There many local brands competing in different price categories. Very competitive among them.The overall best selling ev in China is BYD Seagull, probably because it is very affordable. Tesla is just the best-selling non Chinese ev for those who are willing to pay more. Not a mass market ev like the Seagull or the Wuling mini.
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  687. Your source: I said so
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  688. ​ @georgewong6615  Safe from eco warriors and activists. Most definitely.
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  689. ​ @Michael-yi4mc  Either you do that or you'll get third world imports. Like Europe. Choice is yours.
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  690. ​ @Michael-yi4mc  You better or else third world imports will.
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  691. Chery has been making cars since 1997 and started making evs since 2010. Rank 9th largest auto company in China.
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  692.  @KyleHubb  Not true. Their Atto 3 is the best selling ev here in Thailand since Nov last year. I have not seen or heard of any battery fire incident here so far. My neighbor drives one. Wish I could afford one.
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  693. In a cold country like Norway, evs account for 95% of total car sales.
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  694. The world is much more than just US and Europe. Chinese evs are dominating ASEAN where I am from here. And they are just starting. Here in Thailand, Chinese ev maker BYD and Changan are building their production plants while Great Wall Motor is setting up a new battery plant.
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  695. So why is Tesla using them?​ @USAoutofEurope 
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  696. Which is quite puzzling. They have the best looking evs. Thought they would catch on, especially among the ladies.
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  697. Buffet and Munger bought a 10% stake in BYD back in 2008 for USD228 million. This investment is worth USD6 billion as of last year. No surprise why Buffet started selling some of his shares.
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  698. Many Chinese evs have already achieved a 5 star NCAP safety rating. Like BYD Dolphin, Tang and Seal. In fact, some of them are safer than European brands.
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  699. They may have an oversupply of housing.But the reverse is true in US. Housing is unaffordable and hundreds of thousands are living on the streets and in their cars. Which would you prefer?
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  700. ​ @themonsterunderyourbed9408 Month of Oct2023. Byd sold 165695 pure evs and 135590 hybrids PHEVs.
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  701. Besides BYD, both SAIC Motor and Geely Corpn are profitable. Check their annual report for 2021. SAIC is the largest carmaker in China for the past 17 years. Their MG ev is doing pretty well in Europe and Asia Pacific. Geely's Volvo still holding their own.
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  702. The reason they dominate here in Asean is the fact that they are affordable and reliable. They have been on the road for more than a year. Already as ubiquitous as Toyotas.
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  703. ​@LifeAfterLosing Chinese battery maker Gotion tried to set up a factory in Michigan. Town folks protested as they don't want a commie company in their midst. They don't want to work for commies. So how?
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  704. That's not true. The fire on that cargo ship off the Dutch coast back in Aug 2023, was first thought to be caused by an ev fire. The salvage crew confirmed this not true when they found all 498 evs parked in the lower deck undamaged.
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  705. I don't hear of any ev fires here on Asean. They have been around for almost 2 years. Mostly Chinese brands. So that shows they are pretty safe.
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  706. ​ @stefanweilhartner4415  Maybe true but unaffordable to most average buyer
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  707. There are plenty of other stuff that China send to Europe by train. Like electrical goods and devices, auto parts, household appliances etc.
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  708. Chinese self driving tech is better than Tesla FSD. Why would they be interested in something inferior to theirs.
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  709. It's the future staring at you. Just like the time when the stagecoach driver sees all these nonsense contraptions, call automobiles driving past him. Saying to himself, passengers are risking their lives riding on one of these. Instead of his horse and carriage.
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  710. One of them did in Michigan. The Chinese battery maker Gotion. A small group of locals were up in arms over a commie coming to their town to provide jobs. So the project didn't proceed. Americans would rather buy foreign than make their own.
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  711. The Chinese already have better self driving tech to waste time with Tesla.
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  712. Ford Falcon, Ford Roadrunner, Plymouth Barracuda, Opel Manta, Corvette Stingray, VW Beetle, Dodge Viper.
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  713. Byd did just that here in Asean. Outselling everyone else. It appears their focus is more on Asean rather than Down Under. Bigger market.
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  714. Not many are sold there. At least not yet.
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  715. ​ @JoeyBlogs007  Byd best selling ev here in Thailand. Total domination.
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  716. Good looking is subjective and in the eyes of the beholder. But here are some Chinese evs that in my subjective opinion are good lookers: Avatr 11 and 13, Zeekr 01 and 07, Lynk & Co Z10 and Z20, Nio Et5, BYD Seal.
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  717. Over here Byd is king. Nio is for those who can afford.
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  718. Byd totally dominate ev sales here in Asean. Affordable and reliable. It is what it is.
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  719. ​@KP-xi4bj Chinese evs have been running around here in Thailand for more than a year. You see them everywhere. Especially Byd. Still waiting for their first ev to catch fire.
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  720. The Chinese bought over electronic giant Toshiba in 2016. Name sounds typical Japanese.
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  721. Sure they can. Just be prepared for a meltdown.
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  722. You just answered your own question.
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  723. Tofu brain
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  724. Cope bruh. Chinese already have better self driving tech from Huawei and Xpeng. Tesla is actually playing catching up.
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  725. ​ elduderino7767  Byd is not in trouble. They are.
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  726. ​@stefan2796 Byd is undisputed king of evs here in Asean.Proof is the pudding. Reliable and affordable, which is what the average buyer here is looking for. Market decides. Not opinions or biases.
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  727. Jeep is going under very soon. Their models are gathering dust at their dealership.
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  728. That's SAfrica. Asean have no such problem.
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  729. Do you know VW have just invested 700 million dollars for a 5% stake in Chinese ev maker Xpeng. To get access to their ev tech. VW have also invested a billion dollars to set up their ev research and development centre in Hefei China because they know where the latest ev innovations are coming from. And it's certainly not back home in Wolfsburg Germany.
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  730. ​ @jasondrummond9451  Washington is sooo afraid of CCP tofu dreg, they need 100% tariff protection.
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  731. ​ @miked8121  There are ev taxis running around in the Chinese city of Shenzhen since 2017 when their public transport systems went fully electrified. Many of these workhorse taxis have clocked up several hundreds of thousands of km in mileage, without any issue of battery degradation and the need to replace them.
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  732. ​ @LILEE376  The best selling ev brands in Asean as well as Latin America are all of Chinese origin. BTW do you know Ford Motors CEO Jim Farley uses a Chinese ev, Xiaomi SU7 Max sedan as his daily drive. He had it shipped directly from Shanghai since it is not sold outside China. You can check out what he thinks about this ev.
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  733. Meanwhile Detriot made junks are protected from competition by 100% tariff wall. Soo afraid of the Chinese.
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  734. ​ @robertfonovic3551  Yup. My neighbor just bought a Byd Dolphin. All his previous cars were Hondas.
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  735. Elon called him a clown. Always full of himself.
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  736. ​ @jonitan76 wrong bruh. Very popular here in Thailand.
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  737. ​ @stefan2796  There are no 1 in Brazil. They have just started.
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  738. Just bought an ev to replace my ice car. Had enough of maintenance and repairs and getting scam by workshops.
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  739. ​ @scottmcshannon6821  Having a regular job in Xinjiang is forced labour. So the people are not supposed to work. US confirmed the only exception allowed is making local Xinjiang handicrafts for sale to tourists. Everything else is forced labour.
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  740. Panda can only be found in China.
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  741. You have seen their business plan. I presume.
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  742. They are building a plant in Hungary. Let's see once it's up and running.
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  743. Source: From my rear end
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  744. You work in Byd pay roll dept?
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  745. Toyota evs are actually Byd underneath.
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  746. Tesla uses Chinese batteries because they are safest ones available. Toyota will do the same. They are using Byd's DM-i super hybrid technology for their new evs lineup.
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  747. Tariff is a double edge sword.
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  748. Since Byd is Chinese, there is no chance the Indian owners will sell to them.
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  749. Proof is in the pudding. Opinion is like a sh...hole. Everyone has one.
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  750. Meanwhile Chinese evs totally dominate the Asean market here. Proof is always in the pudding. Not from YT comments section.
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  751. ​ @frankcoffey  It got noticed because it's a Chinese consyruction company and Chinese workers. Not a local company.
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  752. It's ongoing progression. There is no end date.
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  753. Also applies to American businesses for sending all jobs to Asia. But Apple is doing great.
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  754. Should listen to what Tim Cook just said about the Chinese connection. As of 2022 they account for ninety percent of iphone global production and will not change anytime soon.
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  755. ​ @beautifulgirl219 zzThis is their high end brand. They do have many other lower end models like Yuan Plus, Seagull and Doplhin.
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  756. ​ @Martian_Alien  Ford did just that.
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  757. ​ @andrewlim7751  Ford is doing just that. CEO Jim Farley said he bought evs from Nio, BYD and his personal favourite, the Xiaomi SU7 Max sedan which he uses as his daily drive. He wants to learn how the Chinese could make them so cheap, so fast and so good.
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  758. You forgot the most important one. Fully autonomous non unionized robotic manufacturing with minimal workforce.
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  759. ​ @warheadsnation  The only Japanese smartphone brand Xperia has stopped selling here due to poor demand.
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  760. ​ @hvh377  There are many countries that do not have their own domestic car industry. There's nothing to protect. Australia and New Zealand for example. As well as Central Asia and Latin Americsn countries.
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  761. ​ @hvh377  I actually don't get your isolation of Chinese market part.
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  762. Cheaper labor plus robots.
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  763. The Chinese are way ahead of everyone else in the ev industry. The Germans and Toyota are now collaborating with the Chinese to build their own ev models. They know where all the innovation is happening. And its not in Germany or Japan.
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  764. ​@TheRidingDutchman99 There are BYD ev taxis operating in the city of Shenzhen since their public transport system went fully electrified in 2017. Many of them have clocked up hundreds of thousands of km in mileage with minimal battery degradation. You can fact check this.
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  765. Then change it to Bring your Aussie Dollars.
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  766. ​ @markplott4820  Tesla is available China while Byd is not in the US. So not much of an achievement even if they did.
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  767. Ultimately its the consumers who will have to pay. Either tariff Chinese made or more expensive European made.
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  768. That's entirely not true. For example the solar panel industry. China has more than 80% share of the global market. And yet solar panrl prices have never been cheaper. They have made it so affordable that many are able to switch to clean energy than before. If this industry is left in the hands of American and European makers, I am afraid the clean energy adoption process would be much much slower. Instead of criticizing China, you should thank them for their effort
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  769. You are here. Shows you do
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  770. If not for the number of bailouts by the US govt , GM and Chysler would have been history a long time ago.
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  771. ​ @KimLee-n4c  Sure but will cost a lot more and takes much longer. The Japanese are having problems with their hsr project in India. Way behind schedule. The French will be expensive and it's no guarantee they can complete it within budget and time agreed. Just check up their on going Hinkley nuclear power plant project in the UK. They are looking at a 14 year delay in completion and will ultimately cost twice the original contract of £18 billion. Much wiser and safer bet to hire the Chinese instead. Even if it's an unappealing proposition to many. But it is what it is. They are the best hsr builders, value for money can buy. They have already completed both the Laos and Indonesian hsr projects recently . Now they are collaborating with Thailand and in talks with Vietnam to connect their rail network in the north to China. You may have also read recently about the signing ceremony in Kyrgyzstan where China will undertake to build a railway line connecting their north western city of Kashgar to neighbor Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan. Project to start next year. There's is an old Chinese saying : If you want to be rich, first build roads. Tell your politicians to forget about that mega expensive Ankus nuclear subs and invest your money instead on upgrading your rail network. At least along your east coast region. Its utterly nonsensical to think China will come down under to invade and take over the country. Just stay in your corner and not venture far from your backyard. They are your largest trading partner which you are very dependent on. They need your natural resources and they are good paymasters. The biggest threat to your national security comes from within and from illegal migrant boats coming in from Indonesia. Nuclear subs won't be useful or help to deal with these threats.
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  772. For now until renewables can catch up. And they are catching up pretty fast. They are the runaway leader in installing and generating green energy. More than the combined total of the rest of the world. Being the workshop of the world, coal fire plants are still needed, complimented by renewable sources.
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  773. Besides being the workshop of the world, China has to look after the energy needs of 1.4 billion citizens. France has 68 million. Apple and orange comparison.
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  774. Their blade battery is among the safest. Probably the safest.
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  775.  @tomcrouchman  You may not be aware that after the United States, China is your biggest trading partner. Canada exports to China amounted to US23 billion dollars in 2021. You may not like them but your exporters certainly do.
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  776. So why is EU so worried about them coming to their market? No one will buy them. European brands are safe. No need to investigate and threatened more tariffs. Right?
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  777. If the battery is crap everything else dont matter. Chinese ones are the best. Tesla acknowledges this.
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  778. Here in Asean they can't sell fast enough.
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  779. He's just reporting the latest updates. Don't blame him if Tesla and the Chinese are the ones that are driving ev innovation.
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  780. A lot safer than my gasoline car for sure. Seen enough gasoline fires on our roads.
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  781. ​@sullivanrachael In the city of Shenzhen China, their public transport had gone 100% electric since 2017. Most of their ev taxis are the Byd E6 models. Most of them have been running almost non stop for past 7 years. Clocking up hundreds of thousands of km in mileage, without having to change their original battery.
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  782. Byd got the lowest tariff of 17.4% and it does not apply to phev. The tariff is not high enough to make their evs uncompetitive. They also have some compelling plug in hybrids models where this new tatiff does not apply. They are also building a plant in Hungary which is exempted from tariff. You are calling it too soon.
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  783. But still has to use Chinese and Japanese batteries.
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  784. The best ev tech comes from China. VW just invested 700 million dollars to buy a 5% stake in Chinese ev maker Xpeng. They also invested a billion dollars to set up their ev research and development centre in Hefei China. They know where's all the latest innovations are coming from. It's certainly not in Germany. What nonsense are you sprouting? Even Elon Musk acknowledged the Chinese will demolish everyone else with their superior built and tech knowhow. Only tariffs can save the Europeans.
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  785. Any other ev company like Lucid or Rivian can do the same. Sponsor the boys for an all expense paid review tour of their plants.
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  786. ​@lewispotter7369 Not without their power. Import duties, tax.If they lower price , EU will accuse them of dumping.
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  787. They still need to build new coal plants until renewables can catch up and replaced them. Hydro and nuclear are green. China is the runaway leader in installing and generating green energy. More than the combined total of the rest of the world.
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  788. Yes, for this obscure small brand . But not the big boys. Chinese adoption of evs has already reached 54% of their total new car sales. Expect to hit 60% by year end. It can only go up from next year onwards. Legacy car brands are on the downward spiral.
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  789. But they still have to rely on Byd for their batteries.
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  790. Over here in Asean the only vehicles combusting regularly are the gasoline ones. Byd evs have been around for almost two years, and they dominate the market. I have yet to see or hear of one combusting. Their plant in Thailand will start operations in Sept with a production capacity of 150k annually to service the RHD market.
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  791. ​ @UCMpDwp7VEfKXRH3NyAW7kuj  They didn't get started before the tariffs. Takes time to establish a presence especially something like an ev that no American has heard off.
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  792. Poor robots. I am sure they can take it.
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  793. ​ @havencat9337  Fisker is history.
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  794. Not entirely true. Byd evs are selling like hot cakes here in Thailand and probably the Asean region as well. They have just broken ground for their new assembly plant here. Not many here can afford Tesla or BMW evs.
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  795. ​ @mikemiller659  Meanwhile BYD is neck to neck with Tesla as the two ev makers with the largest share in the global ev market.
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  796. Bruh. Byd and GWM are already building their factory in Thailand. Byd plant will be reafy by June.The Chinese will bring everything from China. They don't need anything down under. Chinese evs are already on a dominant position. By the time Tesla decides to build their gigafactory here, it will be too little too late.
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  797. Byd blade batteries are the safest. The first ship already reached port and goods sold. Please try up keep up.
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  798. He's just reporting the latest updates. Don't shoot the messenger ❤
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  799. Right now. Please do your part. I recommend this or the Avatr 12. Both are great.
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  800. ​@nothingtosee7718 That's why they are the best-selling evs here in Asean. Market decides.
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  801. ​ @colinb6745  Indian you maybe able to. But Chinese. Everything non Chinese has Chinese inputs.
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  802. They have much better response over here on Asean. Byd has been the best selling ev by a wide margin in Thailand, for the since launch in Nov 2022. Most people here cannot afford pricey German evs. Awareness and trust already established in our market.
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  803. Battery is the most expensive part of an ev. So still a win for the Chinese I suppose.
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  804. Buy their ev instead. Top notch in looks and performance.
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  805. The big question is when. Much hyped up like their hydrogen car will crush ev claim.
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  806. Xpeng actually sounds badass. Like XMen. There are others like Avatr 11 and my personal favourite, Ora Funky Cat.
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  807. The Chinese build affordable and quality evs better than anyone else out there. Biden is so scared that he imposed 100% tariff even though they are not sold in his market. Existing tariff of 27.5% is not enough protection for his own auto industry.
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  808. Not BYD or Li Auto.
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  809. ​ @georgiaguardian4696  The Chinese have better ADS. Like Huawei Qiankun and Xpeng XNGP. They don't need Tesla.
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  810. Not teally. Chinese are building ev factories in Hungary, Brazil, Mexico, Turkiye and Morroco. They have already done that in Uzbekistan and Thailand.
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  811. Sure. That's why Tesla uses their blade battery. Clown
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  812. Their batteries are used by Tesla. Isn't this an endorsement of their quality?
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  813. The parent company Geely just reported a year on year revenue growth of 56% for the first quarter of 2024. Net income also jumped 119% for the same period. That translates to USD7.4 billion in total revenue and a net income of USD215 million Jan to March 2024. They sold a cumulative 790k vehicles for the first 5 months of this year, up over 45% year on year. Seems to be doing OK.
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  814. Cant believe there still people going on about this abandoned but registered evs to claim govt subsidies nonsense.
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  815. Not here in Asean. Byd is no 1 by a wide margin. Their assembly plant here in Thailand should be ready in a couple of moths to service the RHD market in this region and Down Under.
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  816. Yet they are dominating the market here in Asean. I have seen many gasoline cars going up in flames but not one case of ev combusting so far. And they have been here for almost 2 years. No wonder Tesla uses Chinese batteries. Super safe
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  817. No. Byd JV is for their bz5 model which is a work in progress. This is entirely toyota
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  818. ​ @danybebe100  You know that's not true but couldn't resist the urge to make a dumb comment.
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  819. In China and some Asian countries, the more choices the better.
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  820. ​ @ZeusBullyMax BYD Atto 3 has a 5 star safety rating from Euro NCAP.
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  821. Germany shut down all their nuclear power plants while China is still building new ones.
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  822. So what do you suggest as the perfect solution. Stop using power?
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  823. If it's an equivalent,shldnt the price be thereabouts or slightly less. Not half
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  824. This applies everywhere. Not just China. Our country our rules. Where I am from, imported cars are taxed heavily to protect our local brands.
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  825. Zeekr will not be one of them. They are under the Geely group that includes Volvo, Lotus, Lynk & Co. London Taxi Co . Proton and Smart Automobile.
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  826. " It's called the American dream because you have to be asleep to believe in it". George Carlin
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  827. ​ @limitedmark  There are many BYD ev taxis still running around the city of Shenzhen( home city of BYD HQ) since their public transport system went fully electrified back in 2017. Some have clocked up hundreds of thousands of km in mileage without having to change their batteries.Since the degradation rate is less than 20%. You can fact-check this.
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  828. Tesla was bleeding cash for over a decade before they turn a profit.
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  829. Looks are subjective. Matter of taste.
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  830. Byd makes its own chips. EV does not require cutting edge chips like 5G smartphones and for autonomous driving. China has been making mature nodes chips that are needed in sensors, most electronic devices and evs
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  831. You forgot they are also the biggest producer of renewable energy. Coal will be around for sometime but will gradually phased out once the renewables catch up. The entire world depends on them to make all kind of stuff. They can't simply shut down coal fire plants at one go.
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  832. ​ @4svideosforschool  These affected workers are protesting why they are being termed as slaves. Brazilians don't realize many Chinese, like those who come from the subtropical southern part, do not sleep on mattresses. Too warm and humid. Sleeping on a bare wooden bed is a norm for them but a slave like condition for Brazilians. Like if you are in India forvtge first time and don't know much about their culture and you are shocked to see the workers eating with their hands without any cultery. You will think their employer behaves like a slave owner. Something like that.
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  833. This question has to be left unanswered till 2029. Then we will know for sure. Picking one now is mere conjecture, unless you have a crystal ball.
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  834. Xpeng admitted stealing Tesla IP ? This allegation has been debunked a long time ago. By Tesla. Do not rehash false information.
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  835. Back in 2011, Elon Musk laughed and dismissed Byd back in 2011, ridiculing the design and quality of its evs.
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  836. VW have just invested 700 million dollars for a 5% stake in Chinese ev maker Xpeng. To get access to their ev tech. VW have also invested a billion dollars to set up an ev research and development centre in Hefei China. They know where the innovation is happening and its not in Wolfsburg Germany.
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  837. You mean you don't need. I do.
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  838. ​ @ws7001  Chinese evs are better than the foreign made evs. That's why they dominate the market here in Asean. Repair and maintenance? What's the issue? They are evs, so less of both.
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  839. You are talking about BYD, a manufacturing powerhouse in China. One of the most vertically integrated auto manufacturer anywhere.
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  840.  @anitathakur9340  jj
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  841. ​ @philipkemp5129  I can't afford a Taycan even though it's my favourite ev But Xiaomi is within my means. So it's no brainer. Copy or not don't bother me at all.
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  842. They are rhe best selling ev company here in Asean, especially in Thailand, by a wide margin. If fact the top three evs are Chinese follow by Tesla. They are building a new plant to support the right hand drive market. Elon Musk laughed at them some year ago. Today they are his biggest competitor and he relies on them for their blade batteries. He sure trust them for the most important part of the ev.
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  843. The long game
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