Comments by "P M" (@pm2886) on "Rent crisis: why is renting so bad in the UK?" video.

So if your salary was out of step with the standard for your job, and your boss offered to increase it to match the going rate, would you refuse because you're 'not greedy'? Or how about you decide to sell your car, but instead of selling it for the going rate, you choose to discount it heavily so as not to be 'greedy'?
5
@jamesdarby3991 Not at all. It's exactly the reality of the claim that landlords are 'greedy' because they stay abreast of the market rate. If you're opposed to that kind of thing, you should be happy to work for less than the going rate. And you should be happy to sell your car for less than it's worth. It's EXACTLY the same as a landlord charging the market rate. Not one bit less 'greedy'. Or rather, none of it is actually greedy. People call it greed when they're at the receiving end, but 'fair' when it's a win for them.
5
No single adult should be occupying an entire residence. THAT'S why there's a housing crisis!
4
@@Haneen-zo6wq Exactly. It's outrageous, what we expect. And this expectation is why there's a housing crisis.
3
BINGO! Families are no longer sticking together, and parents are not supporting their kids long enough for them to gain financial security. It's disgraceful.
3
@jsc2606 And who created those kids?
3
@thesupergreenjudy Your expectations are probably so horribly low because you grew up in an environment where parents ditch their kids at 18. That's PARENTAL failure, not kid failure.
3
@victoriavarzinova9748 You missed the point. Parents are supposed to support their kids to financial independence. That might be at 21, or it might be at 28. You don't kick them out at 18, then watch them struggle for another 15 years, then try and fix it after the fact.
3
@victoriavarzinova9748 You're talking about highly dysfunctional people though. Slackers, or maybe addicts. Let's focus on normal, responsible adult children.
3
@victoriavarzinova9748 You must know them to be selfish assholes, in that case. What if you wanted to study medicine .. which takes about 7 years? What would they do? Kick you out and make that impossible for you?
3
No one is stuck. Nothing is preventing people from leaving but their own circumstances. And that's PERSONAL, not systemic.
3
Your parents didn't do it, unless they kicked you out at 18. If not, then it's your sense of entitlement to your own private residence, in the most expensive big cities. That's the problem. Too many people believing they're owed premium locations, and far FAR too many people attempting to live alone (thus absorbing many times the amount of housing square feet than they actually need).
2
Public housing was never the answer. It was always a token gesture. And it was always a very bad message to send .. that govt would come to your rescue no matter what. That message was taken way too seriously, by way too many people. The only kind of public housing which actually works to raise people out of poverty (and that should be its only purpose .. it should NOT be a lifetime crutch), is the kind Singapore has. Govt builds the tower blocks, and SELLS the apartments to citizens at cost price - which is around half what they would be on the open market. Even low income earners can afford them.
2
@georgesmith8268 How? Who is forcing you to stay there? Why do you think you have some special rights to the place?
2
@justyouraveragehuman4069 No, it's the other way around. Young people are finally realising that they can't expect to live in big cities on the income of the average 22 year old. They're moving out.
2
@pbc5137 Only if they're immature and selfish. That's a cultural problem of the West. In societies where it's normal for multiple generations to live together, people know how to behave.
2
@hellokittydimaggio Meaning they're normal parents. It's tragic that so few Western parents get that.
2
Renting is voluntary, therefore no one is being ripped off. If they didn't like the price, or the condition of the house, they wouldn't rent the place. Obviously.
1
Yes. Exactly what we should all be doing. We're thoroughly spoiled though, and now we all expect our own private palace. We brought this on ourselves.
1
Bingo! If people truly didn't like renting (because of the cost), they wouldn't do it.
1
You'd have to assume that anyone spending 70% of their income on rent, REALLY wants to live in a big expensive city, no matter the cost. Like .. wants to live there so badly they're prepared to be impoverished for it. Even to the point of knowingly making themselves a burden on their fellows via a need for public assistance.
1
Exactly. Instead of taking action to ensure they have secure housing, people keep expecting 'affordable housing' in prime locations. It's idiotic. Instead of doing whatever they need to do to afford to house themselves ... whether that means sharing, or living outside the prime locations ... people do nothing.
1
@boyo7918 Yet is doesn't. People aren't doing anything to change their circumstances. They're just whining.
1
Yes. We're spoiled babies, who grew used to the idea that we could each have our own private residence in a location of our choice. Obviously that was a fantasy .. even though it was sort of true for a few decades at the end of last century. This is the consequence of holding on to that ridiculous fantasy.
1
@markm7776 Yes, a huge part of this housing thing is that so many people feel entitled to live in expensive big cities. They can't afford it, but they think they're owed it anyway. It's freaking nuts.
1
@northwestcoast Not at all. Married people statistically do better .. especially in the latter half of life.
1
@demonhalo67 Why on earth would you assume you'll break up? Are you dysfunctional? Do you intend to marry someone who's dysfunctional?
1
@KazeHorse Yes ... BEFORE 2000. As in last freaking century. If your expectations are that far out of date, you're in for a rough time.
1
@KazeHorse Yes, a whole generation. 23 years which people have had to adjust their expectations. I'm sorry, but only the most determinedly oblivious could have failed to realise where things were going .. in all that time. The rest have no excuse. They saw, they understood, but they chose to pretend it wouldn't happen to them, and so did nothing. But I don't blame young people for this. I blame their PARENTS. They knew what was happening, and did nothing to prepare their kids for it. They didn't bolster their holdings in order to bequeath property .. knowing how important that was going to be for anyone who isn't rich. They didn't teach their kids how to live collectively to save money. They didn't keep their kids at home rent free until they could buy their own place. They failed to prepare for this .. across the board. And their kids are paying the price.
1
@UdumbaraMusic Only if you mix exclusively with white westerners.
1
It's deliberate. Also, it's not govt's job to house you.
1
Actually selling publicly developed housing to citizens is the very best approach to 'public housing'. It should never be held by govts, and just 'loaned' to people. The whole point is to raise people out of dependence. To empower them to direct their own lives. If you simply allow people to rely on subsidised govt owned housing, you disempower them. You also create a system which is abused by 'resource hogging'. People stay in subsidised places for life, meaning no one else can access that house. If you're being subsidised by the tax payer, you should absolutely NOT get more than a few years. Plenty of time to figure out how to support yourself .. then you move on and let someone else in need have the place.
1
They have roofs over their heads because they're not too spoiled to share. Extended families live together and make it work.
1
@thetimelapseguy8 Not relevant. When you're occupying an entire residence - which means a kitchen and bathroom, at the very least - you're hogging housing. There should be at least three people for every kitchen and bathroom.
1
@paulchan6570 No one has ever 'pursued' apartments. They're an evil necessity in some locations, but no one REALLY wants to live in one.
1
The same reason it's so bad everywhere else in the Western world. We've created societies of entitlement, where we all expect to have our own private residence, in the location of our choice. That was ALWAYS an absurd expectation - but we miraculously got away with it for a few decades at the end of the 20thC, so now we think it's our due. There will never be enough housing to meet such an absurd expectation. Or rather, what housing there is in the prime locations everyone seems to think they're entitled to, will be asorbed wholly by the rich, and by the new migrants who have the sense to live collectively. All these entitled people who are not rich, and yet refuse to live collectively - nor in locations they can afford - will be casualties of their own hubris.
1
@xplodax What sort of parent raises a kid who's jobless and not studying at 18? If you've fucked up that badly, you deserve everything that kid gives you.
1
@thesupergreenjudy You're talking about an extreme though (the 35 year old unemployed person or whatever). This is about normal people, who need support in their 20's while they build education/financial security etc.
1
@nawnaw4709 Bingo!
1
@verucasalt9182 Exactly. Such parents are scum.
1
@victoriavarzinova9748 That's even WORSE. Deliberately making yourself a burden on the state, because you couldn't be assed maintaining a strong and stable family.
1
Because for some bizarre reason, we thought that it would stay 1950 forever. That kids could survive alone at age 18.
1
That's the worst possible solution. You can't keep producing more and more housing .. just to satisfy this outrageous expection that every adult will have an entire private residence to themselves. All you'd do is ENTRENCH that expectation .. and at the same time destroy the planet. Besides, it will never end. Every new generation will just expect the same thing, and the entire planet would end up being nothing but buildings. We have to change our expectations. There's more than enough housing to house everyone already .. if we simply stopped being such selfish brats and shared.
1