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Your mother must have earned that love and respect from you. Both by raising you to be a hard working and responsible person, and by being an honourable and respectful person herself.
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EXACTLY! You never get the back story, and the back story is the most important information! It's infuriating, because without it, no one gets the benefit of learning which choices are good and which lead to this situation. It's all just BS without the back story, and helps no one. Homelessness is just a symptom of something else - and it's the something else people need to know about.
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Why would losing your husband cause bad credit? Please give the full details, so that others might learn what to avoid.
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There are excuses, actually. What if the parent is a narcissist, or an addict, or irresponsible, or lazy, or disrespectful?
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Sometimes family see that problems are not only self-inflicted (addictions, irresponsibility, unstable relationships, etc) but repeated. In which case they're absolutely right to refuse to help. No one is automatically entitled to help just for existing. We're sometimes entitled to a second chance, but that's it. If you do get a second chance, you'd better make good on it. Unfortunately too many people don't make good on such opportunities to get things right. They just keep abusing substances, or gambling, or wasting money, or being lazy, etc etc ... then get upset when family turns their back.
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She probably earned your respect. That's the crucial difference!
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Your mother is either pure evil, or you're not telling us the full story.
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It's not about working, it's about what you do with the money earned!
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@donnamaco1 In 35 years he'd have paid off his home. Why would he lose all his savings?
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In 99% of such cases, there's a reason these mothers end up alone. Either they raised terrible kids, they raised financially irresponsible kids, or they themselves are terrible people. It simply doesn't happen by accident.
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What a bizarre thing to think, with respect! And who is "society"? The only people letting this happen is we ourselves. Either we're abandoning our own, or our own are too obnoxious to help. There is no magical rescue fairy. It's on each of us to live right all our lives, if we expect to live right in old age.
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But this is exactly how it should be done! People working together, instead of expecting their own private residence. Congratulations to the both of you, for being intelligent and unselfish and thus solving the problem 👍
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So this woman chose to be an "artist" knowing it wouldn't pay for her retirement, but now expects help from the tax paying working stiff?
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It's not greed, it's business. Landlords are experiencing the same cost of living increases as you. If you were running a business, would you keep your prices at 2019 level just to be "ungreedy", knowing it would bankrupt you? Of course you wouldn't. Landlords are no different.
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You have two sons and you're homeless?
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@SisterMaji Why would she do that? There must be a reason. Most people, if they had the space like your sister, would take in a relative over the winter. There's always more to the story, and without that crucial information we can't learn. We can't benefit from your experience if we don't actually know what it was.
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You're supposed to own your own place by the time you retire. Renting is a total luxury, because it involves giving away potentially a million dollars over a lifetime, with nothing to show for it at the end. The poor absolutely cannot afford to do that, obviously - yet so many do it willingly!
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If all of her kids are struggling, then they clearly weren't raised to be financially responsible. That comes back to her, not them.
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Affordable housing is housing that YOU can afford. No one is so special that they're entitled to live wherever they want at a discount.
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Why did you ever reach homelessness in the first place, if you have family?
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Yes, other cultures have it right. We're incredibly stupid and selfish in the West, and we pay for that when we're old.
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Why didn't you rebuild with your insurance payout?
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Why do you expect the Govt to take care of you?
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On the contrary, she did none of the things she should have done.
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Your mothers usually earn that respect and care. That's the crucial difference.
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Which shows how stupid choices lead to homelessness. Why in hell would you pay for storage for a freaking couch, when you're homeless?
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Sensible. And better yet, anyone on a working class income can do it. Buy the cheapest place you can find (anywhere) when still in your 20's and living at home. Rent it out, and in 20 years it's yours. Buy another two or three along the way, and by the time you retire you'll have a fully paid for home, plus income from your other fully owned properties. It's so important for lower income people to do these things. Yes it means living frugally when you're young, but then the payoff is many years of financial security and peace of mind. I would never trade a lifetime of security and peace of mind, for a few years of hedonism in my 20's and 30's.
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Because many Western seniors are too difficult to live with. Raised to be isolated from extended family, they don't know how to behave in a house full of adults. They can be like spoiled teenagers. Some even drink or gamble.
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@Mike-01234 Did you give her a home?
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@seannadiaz4028 We're all responsible for ourselves.
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@donnamaco1 She should have thought of that 50 years ago.
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@pgpc6448 One that pays the bills.
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Why do we "deserve" it? Just for existing? Takes more than that. We deserve what we earn, not a bit more.
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Hopefully you raised them to be responsible, and so they will. And hopefully you don't have any habits or behaviours which might make you hard to live with 👍
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@SisterMaji Judy you must ask her why. She may have reasons you're not aware of. It could be something you can fix.
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It's not strange if she's a terrible person. If neither of her kids want to help, that's a pretty good clue she doesn't deserve it.
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@user-ReachingForTheStars Did you not see the word "if"? Besides, if none of her kids will help her, it suggests she's the problem .. not them.
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Why don't you stay there? Sounds much better than an uncertain, expensive, and lonely private rental - even if it is a basement.
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@shamrock4500 No, we need more families living together. We're spoiled brats in the first world. We expect everything, and expect someone else to pay for it.
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Financial dependence on a partner isn't the problem though. The problem is BOTH partners not securing their own property and not planning for retirement. I know many women (younger and older) who are financially dependent on their husbands, but as couples, every one of them is financially secure. If a husband dies or leaves, there's no problem. She has a fully paid for home, and income from either investments, an age pension, or a career. If your ducks are in a row, it doesn't matter who is widowed - the man or the woman. Either will be taken care of due to all that earlier shared commitment to financial security.
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So why do people like this woman, try to live there? She's free to move somewhere with more affordable housing. She's CHOOSING to make it difficult for herself.
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We do. It's called Family.
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Too entitled to share.
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Because she's catastrophically entitled.
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@MoneyStrategiesSOULutions Exactly. Every family should take care of their own. It's our failure to do this (plus our failure to be worthy of help) which is the source of the problem.
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@stjohnbaby How can you have no family at all?
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@scarycarrie1809 But that's exactly the attitude which leads to elderly homelessness. It's not a reasonable choice, it's just plain irresponsible.
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@forestcottage7321 The greed and corruption of people who are irresponsible all their lives, and then expect others to save them?
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@sandi8596 Fail to "judge" and no one learns anything. Nothing will change.
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@sandi8596 That's exactly why so many people end up like this. Selfish and intolerant.
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@barbaramcleod1587 If you worked since age 15, you could have paid off your own place.
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@candycoatedcyanide3267 Housing is absolutely not a human right.
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@denisehaley9271 Yes exactly. Each family should take care of their own. It's disgraceful that many don't.
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@BossLady There's usually a good reason for it, when no family members will help the person.
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But they WANT to live that way. If they didn't, they'd have lived their lives like Asians and others, who stay together as a family for life.
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How are you going to stop people making the choices which lead to this?
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You did more than raise your kid right - you must also be a respectful, honourable, and responsible person yourself. If you weren't all those things, she would not have wanted to live with you. Well done 👍
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Exactly. It's pure hubris.
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Why won't they help you?
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It's often not the fault of the younger people. Far too often, the elderly person themselves is difficult to live with. Asian grandparents aren't selfish and lazy, and are clean living and respectful. They don't think babysitting is a chore, they see it as a privilege. They want to be useful and helpful. Unfortunately a lot of Westerners think of retirement as some kind of second teenager-hood. They even try to socially compete with younger generations, expecting to mix and hang out like friends. Asian elderly don't do that, ever. They will be around for help and a bit of conversation, but they're emotionally self-sufficient enough not to need social validation from people half their age. They ain't trying to join your dinner party conversations, or go to parties with you. Westerners can be painfully stupid when it comes to this stuff. They have a lot to learn, before this elderly isolation thing has a hope of being fixed.
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It takes much more than just having children. You have to earn their care by being an honourable, stable, dependable, responsible, and respectful parent.
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@Widkey No, they "cry socialism" because people like this think they can do art all their lives, then expect the working stiff to fund them in retirement.
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What else can we do but accept other people's life choices? Do you want to lock them up or something?
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