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Not at all. She chose a life of public exposure, and unfortunately that comes with lots of attention - whether good or bad. Please remember that she's also very very rich, and is paid by the tax payer. That comes with some responsibility.
Meantime, while I feel terrible for all those diagnosed with cancer (unless you've been there you can't know how truly awful it is), the Palace handled this very very badly. Had they been honest at the outset - in the same way the King was - none of this would have happened.
I realise there are children to consider, but if you have a family in that world, you accept that your kids are going to be exposed to things that normal kids won't be exposed to. Also, kids are very resilient. Most are told more or less straight away when a parent has cancer, and it's said they actually benefit from that early information. It gives them time to process how it all works before hair starts falling out etc.
I'm not sure I agree with keeping it from children for so many months, but that was their choice. I suspect the speculation will probably have hurt those children more than the truth would have. People have been saying all sorts of crazy stuff - like domestic violence, that their mother was dead, etc etc.
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Not quite.
Most of us have some kind of trauma in our past .. and plenty of people have really serious trauma in their past .. yet they don't become addicts. Global studies prove that fact, emphatically. Even people who've been subjected to the worst deprivations mankind can visit (eg brutal wars) topped by things like starvation etc, manage to get through life without becoming addicts or dysfunctional. They may have some minor personality quirks, but they function. They maintain intact families, go to work, pay the bills, put food on the table, and retain the respect of their communities.
The addiction and dysfunction we see in these interviewees is almost entirely a result of disinterested, self-indulgent parents. It's a very specific kind of parenting failure - a type that primarily happens in the richest first world societies.
Those people mentioned above .. who experience arguably much greater traumas but remain functional and intact - are the product of high quality parenting. Good parenting builds resilience. Such people are born into terrible circumstances .. deep poverty, war, etc .. yet have stable, focused, supportive parents who model diligence and self-discipline. That's the root of it all.
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@coranna02 That's because it is ALWAYS the parents. This stuff doesn't happen in a vacuum. It's not random chance. It's simple poor parenting - whether those parents are now dead or alive.
These two siblings were clearly badly let down by those responsible for their character growth. Abandoned too, given the boy is only 19, disabled, and living in pretty damned shitful circumstances without support. What chance does he have? He's already stealing, and his sister - who probably thinks she's protecting him, is a psycho. She COULD instead have had him live with her, so that she can support him and provide the security he needs to make better choices, but instead she does that. She's not being 'responsible' for him at all, she's doing the opposite.
All of us are the product of our upbringing. Even given your suggestion that these two are orphans (which is unlikely, given that's not common at all), that does not compel them to be bad people. People end up bad when those around them as children, taught them to be bad. Besides, plenty of orphans manage to reach adulthood with their honour and decency intact. That's no kind of excuse.
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@zopEnglandzip Not the point. The point is that there a million ways to keep an active mind and body without turning up for 10 hour shifts at a job. That's the point of retirement ... the freedom to do all the 'busy' things you don't have time for because of your job. I know lots of retired people, and they're all very busy. Travelling, hiking, camping, studying, socialising, cycling, volunteering, helping raise grandkids, restoring old houses, gardening, engaging in sport, etc etc.
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@hus390 Like I said .. I agree with you to an extent. I agree it would have been much better to issue a statement early, to the effect she was fighting an ongoing battle with a common but treatable condition, and leave it at that. It would have been obvious to everyone it was cancer .. and most would probably assume it was colon cancer because it was 'abdominal', and colon cancer is becoming horribly common in young and healthy people.
I personally don't agree with her choice to keep the information from her children. I think they need to be in at the outset, so their young minds can gradually accept as things change for their mother. By the time her hair falls out or whatever, they will be at a place of acceptance and even understanding of the process - that it's for 'good'. Kids need time to do that processing, and it's best if they can do it organically and feel like they're part of the process. Thrusting them into the thick of it out of the blue, can sometimes feel like a betrayal - especially for kids over the age of reason (around 8 years).
There are some things I think should be kept from children until it can be addressed safely - but physical illness of a parent definitely isn't one of them. I think mental illness should be kept private (because of it's potential to impact children in an unhealthy way), and anything criminal obviously, and certainly anything along the lines of addiction. Divorce should also be navigated carefully. Physical illness though, is normal and natural and unavoidable in life - unlike the things mentioned above. Kids need to know about it early, to develop resilience around the realities of it.
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@thatonedog819 Surely you don't think they were out doing office jobs? We're talking about 250 years ago. Women did work around the house all day. Growing a kitchen garden (vegetables/fruit etc), raising chickens, cooking, cleaning, milking, making cheese and butter, perhaps helping out with 'man' work on the homestead, raising children, etc etc. They were STILL being housewives, because they were working at home for the family, rather employed for money.
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It's hard to really grasp what Americans go through when it comes to healthcare. It's bizarre and awful that you have to hunt down your own specialists, hospitals, and treatments. And if that wasn't bad enough, you then have to haggle to have it all paid for. It's like a nightmare. Truly dystopian.
Where I live, you go to a general practitioner - any one will do, doesn't have to be some kind of personal physician - and they refer you to the specialists at your local public hospital for further investigation. Those specialists then organises everything. Blood tests, scans, surgeries, tests, treatments, etc. All of that is done in that same local hospital, and the patient doesn't have to plan or think about any of it. It's all done for you - and it's all free.
I feel incredibly sorry for Americans, having to live with such a barbaric system 😢
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While times are definitely tougher, there are some basic economic rules which need to be followed. ESPECIALLY in tougher times.
Don't have kids or pets you can't afford.
Don't live alone.
Don't live in big cities.
Don't have any bad habits - even if it's just fast food.
Don't pay for services (hair stylists, nail art, pet grooming, gym, hobbies, tattoos, etc etc).
These are obvious, and poor people have always had to live that way. The problem in our rich first world societies, is that we've become used to being able to break those rules and get away with it. We're feeling the effects of that hubris now. When we're not wealthy, we have no business trying to live as though we are. We need to remember how people lived back in the Depression. They shared with extended family, they grew their own vegetables, they cooked from scratch, they 'made good and mended' instead of buying new, they bought a cheap house rather than pay rent (which is much more expensive over a lifetime), they didn't eat out or take holidays .. etc etc.
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@peenyyt4921 No, it almost never does. In 99% of these cases, it was patient non-compliance. I've been in this game for decades, and while I accept there are less than stellar doctors out there, most are responsible enough to cover the basics. The problem is almost always patients, I'm sorry to say. You'd be amazed what people will do and tell themselves, to avoid jumping through the hoops they should be jumping through. And amazed at how long people ignore things before seeking treatment. And also amazed at the things people don't tell their doctors. People are afraid. People are lazy. People don't want the bother. People are forgetful. People don't recognise the seriousness of symptoms, etc etc etc. We're all capable of that, if we're not doctors ourselves. Doctors on the other hand, only have ONE job, and that is to find out what's wrong with you. They're hardly going to refuse to do so, given that, since they serve no other purpose. You have to grasp that crucial difference, to appreciate why it's almost always a patient thing.
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@iansharp7422 Once again though .. if rents were NOT affordable, there would be loads of vacancies. Far more renters would choose to buy (any cheap place they can find, anywhere), because over their lifetime it would save them a fortune. Since that's not happening, and vacancies are at all time low .. then clearly plenty of people can afford currents rents.
An individual's personal situation is not relevant in this scenario - IOW how any one individual pays their rent. They're paying, so they can afford it. Some will choose to stay in areas they can no longer afford, so they'll obvously struggle, but if they're paying then ipso facto - they can afford it. And it's voluntary remember. They could buy their own place, or move someone cheaper, or team up with family to cut costs. If they're not doing any of those obvious things, then it's a choice to pay those high rents and struggle.
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@RevengeOfTheDarkKnight Nope. SOME degrees will never keep you fed and housed (eg Arts degrees). Obviously, if you're not from a rich family, you have no business taking such degrees. They're only for people who don't need to work for a living.
For everyone else, it must be a degree in a field of high demand and good pay. That means STEM. If you're poor, and you want to go to university, you damned well better make sure you take medicine, or engineering, or dentistry, or computer science, or food science, or agricultural science, etc etc. Fields which always need people, and which pay well.
The upshot is that if you deliberately chose a 'rich person' degree (arts or whatever), and now find yourself struggling, you have no one to blame but yourself. You could have made a better choice - and if you were socially responsible, you would have. You had no business making yourself a potential burden on the state.
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@edelleaa Why do they rent? Previous generations had no trouble buying houses ... even the poorest families in low paid jobs. Your family evidently chose not to, and now everyone pays for that choice. You would do well to consider how they sabotaged themselves, so you don't make the same mistakes. Did they live in areas they couldn't afford? Did they blow loads of money on stupid things like takeout and processed foods? Did they waste money on new clothing, shoes, vacations, restaurants, beer, hair stylists, tattoos, nail artists, cosmetics, gambling, cigarettes, getting fat, etc etc?
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With respect, labour starts at 4cm. Unfortunately some women think it starts at the first contraction. You can be in early labour for days before getting to 4cm, so if you "over react" to those early contractions it will exhaust you, and exhaust your baby. It also makes you produce too much adrenaline, which can really interfere with progress, further causing problems for baby. I don't blame new mother's for this ... I blame those who are dishonest about the pain. When you're led to believe that labour feels like "bad period pain", you're going to lose your mind by 4cm. Childbirth educators, mother's, sisters, aunties, and friends .... please be honest about what to expect - it gives women the power to actually ride out the pain without losing their minds. It won't be such a shock.
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That's because they didn't do anything wrong. While we all feel bad for this woman, she's an unfortunate victim of her own personal circumstances. And once discharged, she is no longer under the hospital's care. They have no control over her, and any interference with her would be illegal - obviously.
No facility can just allow the homeless and mentally ill to stay as long as they want .. nor can any facility lock them up to prevent them 'going out into the cold'. And the LEAST able to help these people, is a hospital. Because any energy given to dealing with the homeless and the mentally ill, is energy taken away from saving lives. It's utterly inappropriate to expect a hospital, of all places, to somehow fix these situations. That's NOT their job. Not in any way. Even if they wanted to do it, there's no way they could.
If you don't like seeing people like this woman, in this situation, make sure you don't abandon your family members when they need you most. Go to the hospital with them, and stay with them for as long as it takes. Make sure they get home safely. Do the right thing by each other, and this stuff will stop happening. It hardly ever happened a generation ago, because we took better care of each other. We also didn't expect 'society' to take care of us. We took care of ourselves, and our own.
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@mariahc6888 Who should have a social worker help them? Hospitals? While they can assist with some of that, it's not their role.
Remember what hospitals are - and more importantly, what they're not. Their job is the SHORT TERM stabilisation of acute illness and injury. They are not social services, not mental health facilities. Yes they treat the sick, but that's the ONLY "need" they can cater to. If your needs are other than medical, a hospital cannot help you.
Meantime, when you say 'we as a country' need to figure out a plan .. sure. This situation has been caused by people failing themselves, and/or their families, so people need to fix it. A generation ago, this stuff wasn't happening .. or happening only rarely. That's because WE (as in us, people .. not the govt) decided it was too much effort to be responsible, and too much effort to maintain strong families. This is the result. Endless homeless, endless addicts, and endless elderly people dying alone. The govt didn't do this .. we did. The govt only helped ... by promoting the welfare state that turned us into selfish overgrown children.
As regards free .. you missed the point. I'm in a country with free universal healthcare, and work in the public healthcare system. I'm all for it. The point was that if any country had to feed and house every person who was on or below the poverty line, that country would be bankrupt within a year. The sheer number of people who gave up on trying, because they believed the lie that govt would take care of them, means it's now impossible.
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@youparejo It's mostly narcissism. These are people who are unable to accept their own 'level'. They feel entitled to someone way out of their league. Someone younger, richer, better looking, more educated, famous, whatever.
They're almost always very average people, but turn down real interest from real people who are their own level. They do this even though no higher value people never show interest in them in real life. That's why they're single.
As for loneliness - if they were simply lonely, they could fix that easily. Friends, family, hobbies, volunteering, church, whatever. A 'romance' is never the answer to loneliness. It's the stupidest and laziest possible cure for loneliness
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@monideepgoswami Go for a university town. They have plenty of younger people, are more diverse than regular country towns, and have plenty of facilities and culture etc. Go for places like Bendigo, Geelong, Ballarat, Goulburn, Bathurst, Orange, Armidale, etc. These are more expensive than other country towns, but still cheaper than Sydney. If you want super cheap - like houses under $150k, Broken Hill is about your only option which has any kind of decent town and facilities.
My picks for extra cheap would be Mildura or Cooma. Plenty going on in both towns. Not too 'sleepy'.
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@daniellamcgee4251 It doesn't work like that, unfortunately. A low grade mental illness (like a sub-clinical but still debilitating depression) can't be 'cleared' the way an infection or a bone break can be cleared. Givnen that, ME is more likely an enculturated response to low grade depression.
Importantly, ME is something that happens almost exclusively in the First World, meaning it can't be physiological. If it was physiological, rates would be the same all over the world. More importantly, it's rarely seen in people who have no access to support. That's very telling .. because it suggests there's a choice involved. A subconscious choice to be sure, but no less real. If patients mostly only manifest this syndrome when they know they can - because family will do for them, or because they have access to support workers - it proves that there's control over it. The mere fact that those in poor societies, and those who have no access to support, rarely experience this after contracting viruses, tells us so much about the root cause.
Having said that, I'm all for further research .. as long as that research isn't not limited by political influence or anti-science social pressure. As long as we refuse to consider all possible root causes, we are obstructing science.
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The big mystery is WHY Americans are ok with this stuff, when no one else in the world is. For example in my country, no one would touch something like this. It's already bad enough with apartments .. given their fees can be many thousands per year .. but to have the additional burden of being policed, makes it untenable. Not even the weirdo neat freaks who like McMansions, will tolerate that.
It seems .. to the outsider .. that Americans will forfeit just about anything in the way of civil liberties/private property/good taste/good health, if they think there's some kind of 'convenience' pay off. I hate to say it, but it seems like a kind of cultural laziness. If they can buy it pre-grated, processed, low effort, disposable, or move-in-ready .. they'll sell their very souls. It's a strange affliction.
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@mikethomas6120 No, that's not what creepy is. You have it totally backwards. A creep is a male (or female) who is way out of their lane. That means age difference, or looks difference, or educational difference, etc etc.
Two guys can do exactly the same thing, and one will be creepy while the other isn't. Let's say they impose an interaction with an unknown female in a public place. They engage some pretext to force that interaction .. like asking a question, or mentioning the weather, or holding a door open and using that opportunity to engage with her. If a 'chad' (a very good looking guy her own age, and who is a similar socio-economic level as her) does this, it's never creepy. If however, an unattractive or older man does it, it's almost always creepy.
I don't know how many times we women have to say this .. but FFS .. just stay in your lane! You will be happier, and far more likely to secure a mate. AND women won't need to walk around in fear of creeps forcing them into these sex-motivated interactions. If you're ugly, talk to ugly girls. If you're old, talk to old women. Do NOT approach or interact with young attractive women, unless you're also young and attractive.
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It's not govt's job to fix your life.
I don't mean to be unkind, but we ALL have a responsibility to set up our lives according to what we think we'll be able to manage in retirement. EG if you feel you'll never likely earn a high income, you need to get married and stay married to a responsible, stable, decent person. You need to avoid bad habits (drink, drugs, gambling, living beyond your means, etc etc). You need to buy a cheap house when you're both young, and pay it off as quickly as possible - no matter what sacrifices you have to make to do so. You need to avoid having kids until you're financially secure. Etc etc etc. These are just the basic things that 'poor' people have to do to ensure they'll be safe in older age.
You also need to make every effort possible to maintain solid relationships with family. If you're unlucky enough to have family who are not honourable, responsible people .. then you need to build and maintain strong and mutually supportive friendships with honourable, responsible people instead. These are the people who'll do anything for you if you encounter problems. They're the people who'll give you a bed if your house burns down, or some other event beyond your control devastates you. BUT, you need to be willing and able to do the same for them. If you can't, you haven't earned their help. It HAS to be reciprocal. That's what's meant by maintaining relationships. Fifty percent of it is maintaining your ability to help others. It's never one-way.
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