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  72.  @topherthe11th23  “Someone can imagine fire being hot. That doesn't mean that it's not objectively true that fire is hot.” What is objectively hot? Is it 20 degrees? 200 degrees? 2000 degrees? There's no such thing as "objectively hot." Perhaps the Planck temperature is objectively hot? “I talk to religious people frequently, and I find what they say appalling.” Uh huh. Perhaps I should "talk to" the same "religious" people you do... I don't find people's beliefs appalling merely because they are religious people. I'm intrigued by your feeling threatened by the beliefs (or truths!) of others. “You're that person who believes that if a tree falls in an empty forest it doesn't vibrate the gas-particles in the air near its surfaces (i.e. "make a noise"), who can't differentiate between a noise and some being hearing the noise.” ”The vast majority of people don't have a problem with the idea that something can happen while nobody knows that it happened. Your response will be "then how do you KNOW it happened?"” Poppycock. My response is what difference does it make? “You seem to be much about the idea that if humans can't reliably know what is true, then truth doesn't exist.” My belief is that the human perception of (what we call) reality is not necessarily reality. It's challenging to be sure of absolute truth if one can't be absolutely sure of reality. A truth I'd like to believe is real is that 2+2=4. We can derive a proof of that. But, the very fine line between reality and truth is murky. Part of the human experience is the quest to understand that line. “That doesn't mean that the only things that exist are human perceptions, and it doesn't mean that the things being unreliably perceived don't have an existence independent of the mind perceiving them.” Are you sure about that? The only thing any human knows about the environment (or reality) is what he perceives or reasons from those perceptions. That's the whole point of this discussion: how does a person perceive truth? What can the word truly mean beyond the human experience? Are the two separable? Hearing voices does not mean someone nearby is actually talking to you. But for the person hearing them, it can be difficult or impossible to tell the difference. What is the truth about the voices if two people hear them but not a third? If our reality is some kind of simulation as some have proposed, does that make it real or not real? (These are all rhetorical questions. You are not expected nor equipped to answer them.)
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