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"BMW SOURCED transmission" Sourced from ZF, BTW.
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You don't exactly need AWD. Snow tires are the real upgrades, plus skills needed to handle winter driving.
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Supra's a front-engined, rear-wheel drive car. The Evora and Emira obviously aren't.
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@0PsychosisMedia0 - using the Corvette isn't exactly a good example considering that Duntov already envisioned it to be MR long before the C8 came. The Supra? No such plans, besides there's the MR-2 for the MR fun.
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@0PsychosisMedia0 - the Emira and Evora carry a different legacy, not the Supra's. That's where I'm pointed at. As for the B58, something tells me you are underestimating just how capable that lump of closed-deck aluminum is (hint: won the Formula D championship a few times and even powered the GR86 in the same series. It also won the DTM Trophy). And this is where I'm getting ticked off: people wanted Toyota to build their own car. Yet (and here's the most important bit), we actually sh***ed on the A80 back when it was sold new (evident by its sales numbers, which the current gen surpassed). And even if Toyota could pull it off, we will still complain about the price and say "get the Corvette". People forgot about this. I suggest not making the same mistake that plagued the previous model.
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@0PsychosisMedia0 - a "sh*t BMW" that's even more capable and race-bred than the Z4. Besides real-world numbers don't fully tell the whole story (just need to know where to look). Again, don't make the same mistake that plagued the A80. Besides, isn't there one user who actually witnessed just how bad the situation the A80 was in back in the 90's?
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Regular 3.0 models will also get the manual.
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Not quite.
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"...but us old heads know better." - except the part where the A80 received a good amount of criticism from the fans, resulting in way less sales than the A70 model in the U.S. alone and its end of production for the market in '98?
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@MELORICKY - "The A80 was a success!" - no, not quite. In fact, mentioning the price back in the day undermines your argument somewhat. That's why I mentioned the U.S. market specifically. "Toyota should have done the same thing that Nissan did with it's Z period." - given the issues reported with the Z, Toyota partnering with BMW for the straight-6 engine seemed like a good idea. It also doesn't help that not a lot of people bothered to buy and tune the Lexus lineup en masse.
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@0PsychosisMedia0 - dude, your original comment implied engine placement, not body style. That's what I pointed out earlier.
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@0PsychosisMedia0 - dude, again we're still in the engine configuration. Something tells me your arguments are way weaker, I'm afraid
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If you want something with that horsepower rating or above, the Nissan Z, Toyota GR Supra, or pony cars are for you. The BRZ and GR86 epitomize the "drive slow car fast" approach.
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"Without AWD, this just spins the tires." - actually false.
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Straight-6, and Toyota sees not much future use of that configuration outside the Supra. They can't just use the 2JZ 'cuz that's old, heavy, and quite off in meeting emission regulations. Oh, and it requires more car models to accept the engine to lower costs.
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Doesn't seem like that. Toyota were already conservative regarding the sales anyway (even though it suprassed the A80 by a few thousand in North America).
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Nope.
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No... and that's final.
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No AWD
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Not quite. A sportscar and a Tesla are two different things.
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The Supra specifically asked for a straight-6 engine.
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@Angelbonilla1982 - developing a new engine is EXPENSIVE, especially for just one car and configuration. The 2JZ is used on a bunch of other Toyota cars, and so does the B58 on BMW's.
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@BF109G4 - not really. This link would help you understand the situation. https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/toyota-supra-a90.235133/page-60
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Toyota requested a straight-6 engine. And despite the HP differences, the Supra is way lighter and has a more purpose-built chassis to boot compared to the LC's.
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Not exactly. This generation addressed the first-gen's problem with torque dip.
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Get a GR Supra 3.0 then. This is supposed to be the more affordable option outside of it and a spiritual successor to the AE86.
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Not really once you take the car to a winding road.
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To clear things up: - the Mk.V (A90) Supra is quite cheaper than the Mk.IV (A80) when adjusted for inflation. $79,837 for the latter in one inflation calculator. - no, they didn't use an old engine. It uses the B58, a new inline-6 engine. Take note of that. EDIT: Every generation of the Supra uses the inline-6. The latest one will introduce an inline-4 model, but for Japan in the meantime.
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And yet, factoring in the optional extras, the Corvette is more expensive.
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Nope.
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@ajani3287 - nope. With a light chassis, 228 hp is adequate enough. You need to find a road with many corners to experience its dynamics.
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No.
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@SoCalFreelance - does Honda need to race at the WRC? They already have the Touring Car class.
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@SoCalFreelance - sorry if I'm not clear with the answer. What I meant is that the Civic runs under the TCR regulations. It doesn't need to chase the WRC because, as you said, they have F1 and IndyCar.
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So I would say that the Castrol Tom's Supra race car is blasphemy since it has a 4-cylinder engine?
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Not actually Subaru's idea to build a rear-wheel drive sports car.
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Not everyone prefers more horsepower.
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@0PsychosisMedia0 - nope. The Emira and Evora are not "true Supra successors."
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Except it never competed with the NSX in terms of sales. Apples-to-oranges comparison, buddy, two different class of cars (mid-engined sports car to a luxury grand tourer car).
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Not quite: Subaru initially didn't want to get involved with the car, but Toyota basically strongarmed them into the project by buying shares of Fuji Heavy Industries.
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Shut up with the "slow". That car is designed to teach you how to more effectively drive a RWD car.
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None of them are rear-wheel drive.
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Nah. Keep it light and naturally aspirated. A better upgrade is a better driver who knows the car.
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Yeah, drive either of the twins or the Miata. What you suggested heavily dilutes or outright destroys the purpose of a lightweight, two-door sportscar.
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@MTB_Rider_96 - no one's denying that gas prices are going up. Problem here: hybrid technology adds WEIGHT, and WEIGHT changes a lot of things even if you figure out how to lighten it up. Using other materials like carbon fibre can increase a car's price, something you don't exactly want for an affordable sportscar.
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@MTB_Rider_96 - again, even if you solve the issue of weight, problem here would be the price thanks to using more expensive, lightweight materials like carbon fibre. The twins don't exactly share a platform with any other car other than using elements of the Subaru Global Platform.
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By the looks of Toyota's recent developments in racing, it probably doesn't need the S58 for a higher-performance trim, if the 86 GRMN was to indicate.
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The current Supra outsold the A80.
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And that's good. This is a sports car first and foremost.
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Can a 4-door or minivan perform well on a technical track? There is a reason why the 86/BRZ has less horespower and yet, still respected: ain't designed to be a straight-line performer. It's designed for the twisties.
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