Comments by "pm ayo" (@pmayo7894) on "Donut" channel.

  1. There was an article that Toyota's inclusion in a few games, GT Sport included, is primarily due to a healthy relationship between them and the publusher. If the game is good enough, then a Supra is warranted.
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  2.  @shobin05  - yeah, not really garbage. Takes 6 months to a full year in order to bring in a car of high quality. Check GTPlanet and the Gran Turismo Subreddit. You will need it.
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  3. No. The Lexus' performance is too high for it to be called a Supra.
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  4. "5th gen fails because they didn't stay true to 4th gen aethetics" - here's an irony here: the A80 also failed because it didn't "retain" some the aesthetics of the preceeding A70 model. Right now, the J29 model is in a similar situation, though it's actually doing much better with it.
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  5. "Too bad the 4th gen supra was built literally for racing and to beat Nissan" - until the 2JZ was discovered to be unsuitable for the track, they ditched it in favor of the 503E 4-pot (that's for the JGTC).
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  6. "Toyota introduced the mark 5 as a cash grab." - not quite. "...they basically imported the entire car from BMW." - not quite, also. BMW doesn't even want to do much with the car even after release. Besides, if Toyota "imported" the Z4, the driving would have been different.
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  7. Ali Abdi - Ferrari lovers at the time of the original NSX's release
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  8. Never was meant to be a Supra.
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  9.  @kennethcampingdiary1976  - let's see, from available sources: - BMW and Toyota have been cooperating long before the Supra. The former got the hydrogen tech, and the latter got their diesel engines. - BMW wasn't planning on another Z4 generation after the E89 model, but Toyota proposed building both the Z4 and Supra on the more purpose-built, CLAR-based platform and architecture. This is the important kicker.
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  10. ​ @Go2scout  - not fully deduced, I'm honestly afraid. Besides, BMW wasn't even supposed to be building the current Z4 until Toyota came along. Besides, if the car's "a Z4 with a body kit", the driving would have been compromised.
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  11. Forgot the Supra and Toyoda moment: 2019 24 Hours of Nurburgring - they got 3rd in class. GR Supra proved itself well.
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  12. "this is a BMW rebadge by toyota" - this statement honestly misses a lot of things. One of which is that, a rebadged car would have a compromised driving dynamic.
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  13. "The 4th Generation was a beautiful, unique car." - not quite.
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  14. One thing to consider is that the Toyota car requires a straight-6 engine. A 2JZ wouldn't exactly cut it since you need to rework it for modern regulations. Plus, the engine is quite heavy. EDIT: For some reason, the Japanese have a straight-4 option for now. But hey, the famous Castrol Tom's Supra race car has that engine configuration, not the 2JZ.
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  15. That destroys the purpose of the 86.
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  16. ​ @WesleyChe  - not quite, and sales for the A80 in the U.S. alone tell a lot.
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  17. "The disrespect is real I've been with supra's my whole life so mk5 it's cheeks a Lil." - not to be rude, but the funny thing here is that the A80 was also disrespected back when it was new (I mean, the sales for it in N. America alone was barely above 11,000 units - way less than the preceeding A70). This is the same thing the current Supra is facing right now, though it has a much better time weathering through it.
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  18. "Just beautiful and for good reason." - except, this wasn't exactly the case back when it was sold new.
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  19. No. Not even close.
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  20.  @greekchris91  - tC means "touring coupe", that's it.
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  21. Toyoda is still alive, ya know.
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  22. Wait about until 2028.
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  23.  AeroZero  - sucked, eh? They won the driver's championship four times. In the 2001 season, the au Cerumo car won without without winning a single race.
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  24. Not gonna happen, I'm afraid. Especially given that emissions regulations are tighter compared to the 90's.
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  25. Don't forget your Kraken and Detonation...
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  26. NSX-R is my favorite NSX variant :)
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  27.  @kimjong-un6994  - not quite, since it uses a modified G16 3-pot. Therefore, it's still an ICE.
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  28. Not quite, especially given the sales figures of the A80.
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  29. Zhi xci - well said. Mr. Chapman would be proud.
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  30. "The new supra just a rebranded bmw z4" - which, to be fair, misses a few things. A full-on rebadge would have meant a compromised driving dynamic.
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  31. Toyota wanted a straight-6, and not much else (there is the straight-4 version, but it's currently offered for Japan only).
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  32.  @ajivideo23  - that Prius' engine is behind the cockpit. The 2019-spec car has the engine placed in the front like the production car, as mandated by the rules.
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  33. Did BMW race their new Z4? No. Toyota is getting much of the data by racing it in various national and international series.
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  34. It's straight-6, to be more exact.
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  35. RAMCHARGERS!!!
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  36. TOM's is a separate company with Toyota backing.
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  37. Not all of Mazda's rotary-powered cars have the 'RX' moniker (the most notable is the Cosmo).
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  38. ​ @mobileterminaluzer1858  - not quite. Besides, BMW didn't want to do any more with the Z4 after the last generation until Toyota suggested using it as a base.
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  39. No.
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  40. The Mk.V defied the rule, from what I'm seeing since the car's release.
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  41. "Toyota rebadging a Krautwagon" - which isn't exactly the case given how the current Supra drives. It would have been different had the car be actually based on the old BMW platform (which they weren't planning to use for the Z4 given poor sales of the last generation).
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  42. "the new supra is a digrace to all car fans" - the sales of the A80 say otherwise, I'm afraid.
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  43. This ain't the 90s anymore. Economic conditions are different compared to back then, and most manufacturers (Toyota included) buy their parts from external suppliers. I wish the Supra was more Toyota, but I know why they did it. I'm not mad, just glad they are trying to make it in a world filled with SUVs and a growing electric car market. Plus, it had a good career in motorsports (3rd place in class during the 2019 24 Hours of Nürburgring).
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  44.  @djoj1986  - are the engineers really lazy or there's more to the story? Japan suffered how many crises again since the 90's, aside from the 2008 financial one? And what about the sales and regulations? These thing make building a sports car less of a good financial proposition.
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  45.  @SiamHossain7  - question is: are people buying sports cars? The popping of the Japanese asset price bubble in 1992 and the Financial Crisis of the late 2000s hurt both manufacturers (Toyota and others) and consumers quite badly. As for why Toyota is using parts from other sources, considering that the Supra and BMW Z4 share most parts and their production by Magna Steyr, you could thank the Toyota Production System for that. They don't want to waste as much resources and time as possible.
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  46. Not really.
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  47. The current Supra still has the B58 straight-6 and the B48 straight-4. The only mechanical changes for the former depend on the market (EU-spec and some markets retain the engine from 2019).
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  48. The LFA is not a successor to the Supra. The performance is too high to be one.
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  49. BACK ON THE ROCKS, BACK ON THE ROCKS
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  50. Here.
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  51.  @JasonB72481  - there is no exclusive deal. As I've mentioned, there was an article concerning the relationship between the publisher and the make, but it's hard to find it these days. Wangan has the Toyota, for example, or Project CARS 2 with that lone production 86.
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  52.  @JasonB72481  - again with the exclusive deal. It's not exactly the case.
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  53.  @JasonB72481  - that's what I've said a few comments ago: that article is too hard to find right now. Plus, I've mentioned that Project CARS 2 has the 86. Also, some arcade games, Initial D and Wangan Midnight, feature Toyotas. Hardly an exclusive deal to me.
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  54. Found the article in question. Read carefully. http://www.superstreetonline.com/features/1805-gr-supra-racing-concepts-digital-debut/
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  55.  @JasonB72481  - did you read the article very closely?
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  56.  @JasonB72481  - then what about the McLaren Senna?
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  57.  @JasonB72481  - before we part ways for the time, keep in mind that both Sony and Toyota are Japanese companies. The ire we should be focusing on is in their headquarters in the USA. EDIT: And this little post from GTPlanet. Last one of the section. https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/toyota-gr-supra-racing-concept-is-coming-to-gt-sport.375864/page-4
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  58. No. The performance of the car is too high for that.
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  59. Look to the 90s. The bubble economy popped, then the Asian financial crisis, and things went downhill for sports cars.
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  60. Corvettes aren't muscle cars to begin with.
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