Comments by "pm ayo" (@pmayo7894) on "Hagerty" channel.

  1. SupraMKV forums did a dimensions comparison: the current Supra is a tad shorter and wider than the A80.
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  2. Not quite a "disgrace", when you dig deeper... "Toyota should had just redeveloped it themselves" - and then you'll complain about the price & likely the way the car drives compared to the current car. "Toyota trying to lie to us." - the funny thing here is that we fans didn't exactly pay attention to how well the Mark 4 fared back when it was sold new (it wasn't exactly pretty... and we kinda disliked it at first) "They no longer care about performance so they shouldn't care." - and yet, why did Akio Toyoda create Gazoo Racing in the name of performance (something that Jason had touched up back in the LFA's 'Revelations' video)? He cares about that part even to this day.
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  3. And in stock condition.
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  4. Doesn't really need one when the RX-7 already does it.
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  5. Power's fine as-is.
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  6. Civic's a volume-seller car compared to the 86/BRZ, and besides, Southeast Asia (where I live) did not get the hatch for the current generation. The twins are more purpose-built.
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  7. Drive the car.
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  8. The LFA isn't really a "true Supra". Spiritually, it's a successor to the old Toyota 2000GT - even Jason pointed it out when doing the video for that car.
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  9. "it became a joke of a sports car" - except, that's debunked by those who actually drive it. "The Supra of the 90's struck fear in the sports car world." - until it didn't.
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  10. Until you meet a corner where a tall ride height, higher center of gravity, and heavier weight would say otherwise. Don't forget the length.
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  11. "This is why this partnership sucks ass for Toyota." - and yet, the Supra spawned a GT4 race car (one of which won the DTM Trophy), a Formula D-winning platform, a Nurburgring 24h-tested performer (with chairman Toyoda at the helm), and various contestants in other racing series. Meanwhile, BMW basically did little-to-nothing on the Z4. So yeah, the partnership actually benefited Toyota greatly while providing us petrolheads with another straight-6-powered car in the era of electrification.
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  12.  @NissanSkylineVR30  - "What I'm saying its the partnership is bad for Toyota" Not quite. Yes, the ECU issue is still there (somewhat); meanwhile, this is already offset by the 3.0-exclusive manual transmission which Toyota reportedly oversaw during development (even though this is based on an off-the-shelf ZF model that BMW also uses). I wouldn't fully dismiss this as a bad deal for Toyota, especially given what I wrote in the last comment.
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  13. "and what I absolutely hate is that Toyota didn't keep the 1990s Supra Turbo upgrading decade after decade and keeping pace with the 911 or leading it." - what you failed to account was that Japan's economy wasn't exactly in a good spot in the 90's (there's a reason that some Japanese called it "the lost decade"). And then there's the part that Mark 4 (A80) sales weren't as good as the Mark 3 (A70).
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  14. Eh, nope. The LFA is the successor to the 2000GT (the car which the current Supra borrows some of its design elements from).
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  15. And yet, the current Supra is doing fine both on and off the track, even going so far as to race in the DTM Trophy, Nurburgring, among others and get a GT4 race version. Meanwhile, what did BMW do with the Z4 in recent years?
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  16. I suggest driving in the MX-5 Cup before calling the Miata "for girls". Besides, by badmouthing the car, you're also badmouthing the classic European roadsters.
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  17. "MK4 Supra is the greatest thing that's happend for Toyota..." - except, not quite as you expect. The car was released at a time when Japan's economy in the 90's was falling, auto regulations were tightening, among others. Besides, the A80 wasn't exactly liked at first, and sales were low by the time production ended.
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  18. Not quite.
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  19.  @razgul_nazgul  - "Cabon fiber is both stronger and cheaper" - not quite. For all the strength it provides, carbon fiber is still more expensive than aluminum - especially in the late 80's and early 90's.
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  20. Until you take a look at its racing history...
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  21. You did, just rely less on the horsepower.
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  22. "No supercar heritage" - if discounting their role in Formula 1 with McLaren (the 80's era one, not the 2010's) and Williams.
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  23. It is a sportscar.
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  24. To be frank, unless you have a long enough and straight enough road to make the most of (applicable to tracks also), rarely would a driver of a high-performance car reach the top speed. Besides, weight is often the enemy of a car: head for a corner and the mass and higher center-of-gravity would be liabilities to an SUV.
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  25. A sound system for a car designed to pay homage to racing of the past doesn't exactly need a sound system. The primary music is from the engine.
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  26.  @colossusofrhodes1282  - "only clowns pay such a high price with no sound system" A sound system is secondary when buying a sports car or a machine like the Ford GT. Even as a player myself of games like GT and Ridge Racer that has music, I know what to look for IRL. Honestly I don't like to be rude, but you just made yourself look stupid if you complain about a car of its caliber (even an old one) having no sound system.
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  27. "The had a 1999 lemans winning gt1 ." - it's actually a Le Mans Prototype. GT1 (the first iteration) died by that point.
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  28. It's a 2000GT successor, not the Supra.
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  29. Not quite. A rotary engine (which Mazda is famous for) requires a different mindset compared to pistons. A Miata is for those who wish to relive the old days of European sports cars and their driving characteristics.
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  30. The R390 and the R33-based, RWD-converted GT-R LM road cars would like a word.
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  31. Loud "SUPAKA!" intensifies
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  32. An Ecoboost Mustang is also heavier than the twins, and the chassis isn't exactly as capable for tighter turns.
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  33. In this specific case, engineered by the British to be more precise.
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  34. ​ @BraydonKennedy-hy1ky  - ironically the LFA did a lot more racing than the Carrera GT, specifically on the Nurburgring where it was a (somewhat) regular racer until 2015.
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  35. Until you drive it the way it was intended.
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  36. One major circumstance was Japan's economy in the 90's (the Japs called it the "lost decade" for a reason).
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  37. "doesn't negate they are garbage" - not really.
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  38. Not quite.
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  39. I wouldn't exactly call the current Supra "bastardised" BMW Z considering that the car is surprisingly more capable than you think.
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  40. Still gonna be the same with the NSX: badged as a Honda elsewhere.
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  41. "and its a ford engine" - incorrect. Mazda made them while Ford used it for several of their offerings.
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  42. Not quite. You still need to engineer the car to accept it, which can be expensive.
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  43. There is also the thing called "torque steer" on FWD cars.
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  44.  @lqr824  - "Instead I'm saying that Toyota didn't approach this as: let's make a Toyota that becomes revered decade after decade like the 911." - this isn't exactly a good idea, in fairness.
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  45. You're forgetting that the LFA is a little more than a decade old. It also doesn't help your case that one of the companies involved in developing the LFA also produces musical instruments (of course, that's a bit inaccurate considering that Yamaha Motor Company is independent from the original Yamaha Corporation since 1955).
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  46. The thing is: the Skyline GT-R is designed from the get-go for performance rather than the Supra (for a more grand touring feel).
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  47. The 1998 running of Le Mans would like a word.
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  48.  @AmericanZ28  - not the whole story, it seems. We all knew the LFA isn't a best seller and a performance juggernaut, even fellow YouTuber savagegeese mentioned about the latter in the last few minutes of his video about the car. But give it a drive, do a dig into the engineering side of things, how it came to be, and you come out wiser.
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  49. Those who actually enjoy driving, those who enjoy the purity of it, and those who track it a lot.
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  50. ​ @peterhammer4644  - I mean, you ever heard of the Global MX-5 Cup, or at least, see weekend warriors having a good time at a local track?
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  51. Honestly, something tells me you are missing the point of the Miata and the classic European sports cars.
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  52. ​ @AndrasMihalyi  - not quite. Primarily, Toyota wanted to keep the straight-6 alive.
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  53. Not quite. As the proposed design features the engine in front of the rear axle, it's really mid-engined.
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  54. Nope.
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  55. You might want to take a look at the LFA's racing history (specifically the Nurburgring).
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  56. Developing one, especially an engine configuration for just one car, is expensive. Coupled with more tightening environmental regulations, a wobbly economy, and the the rise of electric vehicles, it becomes less of a good financial proposition. The 2JZ isn't just found in the Supra, it also applies to a bunch of other Toyota vehicles (Soarer, Aristo, etc.). BMW can manage to produce a straight-6 constantly, so it's logical for Toyota to team up.
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  57. Not quite. There's the thing called "regulations".
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  58. Too late for that one, bud.
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  59. Something tells me you might want to look at the Aerovette concept.
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  60. Much of the cost would also include chassis reinforcement, bigger brakes, additional hoses, etc. just to account for the power increase.
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  61. Doesn't work that way, I'm afraid.
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  62. Until you do a hot lap around a circuit.
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  63. Not everyone is eyeing to beat the GT-R. Besides, we already have cars that equal (or surpass) the GT-R even at lower price points.
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  64. "but today,a miata is just slow" - not quite.
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  65.  @egeayvala1799  - "well the NA Miata is not fast in a straight line" And that's the point of the point of the car. It's never meant to be a straight-line performer, but a nimble little roadster that breezes past corners with ease (a minivan, despite what many people say, isn't really suited for that). Besides, do we really need a lot of horses to be fast?
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  66. Making another straight-6 engine for today is expensive. On the Supra, the JZ is placed on a bunch more of the corporation's auto lineup.
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  67. In modified form... the same isn't exactly said for the stock ones.
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  68. Fortunately, not quite. Given the reception of the A80 back when it was sold new and the current economic situation, this is the best thing to happen.
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  69. "Price then could have been just under $100K..." - yeah, the moment you mentioned this, this actually becomes a bad idea... especially with the Corvette still around. Besides, there's the GR GT3's road car (or whatever's badged as) coming soon anyway,
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  70. ​ @texan176  - I didn't say ZR1, just the Corvette in general (including the base models which the more well-off Joe could afford). Besides, you kinda forgot the part of transportation costs from Japan to the State.
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  71. Doesn't exactly work that way. Mazda partially conceived the Miata as a cheaper sportscar option compared to the RX-7 (especially in Japan where the cars are taxed based on dimensions and engine displacement). As for the "lack of horsepower", that's very debatable. Try finding one and give it a spin on the twisty backroads or on a local race track.
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  72. Not quite, bud. Besides, this isn't politics.
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  73. ​ @joeyboikly  - the video (about an expensive engineering exercise with racing pedigree) doesn't scream "anti-capitalist" the slightest. Besides, you don't even know what communism even means.
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  74. ​ @joeyboikly  - "if it don't make dollars it don't make sense." - you might want to re-watch the 3:40 part.
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  75. ​ @joeyboikly  - dude, you might want to cut the act. I can tell.
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  76.  @Daniel-dj7fh  - "I don't think the LFA played any role in this." - this is why I'll need to reiterate Akio's role (as briefly summarized from 2:45 onwards). Without him, the LFA would have been most likely shot dead before reaching production. In fact, him approving that car and racing that thing in the Nurburgring played a key role in shaping Gazoo Racing today.
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  77.  @Daniel-dj7fh  - except, not quite.
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  78.  @Daniel-dj7fh  - "if the yaris didn't take off that's what would have happened." - not quite, either. Or to be more precise, it misses a lot of contexts.
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  79. Except, not really.
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  80. McLaren more likely. The Caddy... well, the aero says otherwise.
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  81. A V-shaped engine is also an airplane engine back in the day...
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  82. Except, no. It's a spiritual successor to the 2000GT, not the Supra.
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  83. "If you are not part of the solution to reduce carbon emissions killing this planet, you are part of the problem." Not quite. Besides, the number of sportscars compared to a family sedan, hatchback, or SUV are way small. Doesn't also help that they are usually a little more expensive.
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  84. Not quite, bud.
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  85. Based on a volume-seller.
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  86. Not quite.
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  87. Which isn't exactly a mistake.
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  88.  @razgul_nazgul  - dude, are you sure you got your sources right? I checked the internet, and they still say it's expensive.
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  89. ​ @bigrobsydney  - unfortunately, the Cadillac has the aero and less weight, thereby it could zip past the corner faster than a Tesla.
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  90. Some examples are exported.
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