Comments by "pm ayo" (@pmayo7894) on "How Finland Survived a 1,000,000+ Soviet Invasion (1939-1940) FULL DOCUMENTARY" video.

  1. ​ @theheadshot45  - Finland remained independent after the Winter War despite losing some land. Different situation compared to Germany's after WWII (in which Finland also remained independent).
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  2. "FIndland did dnot survived the soviet invasion" - except, they did.
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  3. Not quite.
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  4. Still stood.
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  5. "Finland folded like a deck of cards" - incorrect, I'm afraid.
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  6.  @bryananderson3772  - "Just like NATO forced the war today" - nope, and you know it.
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  7. Except, not quite.
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  8. Except, you forget the part that the Soviets actually helped Germany during the Interwar Years.
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  9. Then why was the Finnish Democratic Republic established?
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  10. Did you know that Moscow was also allied with the Nazis at the time of the Winter War?
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  11. "Finland did NOT survived" - they did. "Surviving" means remaining independent, and continues to do so to this day. No one's denying that Finland lost parts of their territory.
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  12.  @shoora813  - still survived. Their government remained free from the Soviets, don't try to deny it.
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  13. "after taking what they needed to defend thenselves against Nazis" - while forgetting that there's the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact... and before that, helping the Germans with their tank training in violation of the Treaty of Versailles
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  14. ​ @Progress_or_Barbarism  - come clean. You know what you're doing.
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  15. ​ @Progress_or_Barbarism  - again, come clean.
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  16. "big mistake to join NATO" - nope. Putin made Finland join NATO - and brought along Sweden.
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  17. Hate to break it, but why was the Finnish Democratic Republic established if the Soviets "weren't planning to annex Finland"?
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  18. "Russia invades other country = defending itself" - and erasing local culture and language. Still imperialism.
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  19. Except the part of overthrowing Helsinki if the Finnish Democratic Republic that Moscow held found were to indicate.
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  20. ​ @DinoAlberini  - and let's not forget how the Soviets trained the very Germans that would invade them later (look at the LeichtTraktor as an example).
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  21. "The Russians were just chasing the Nazis out." - and yet, they actually helped the Germans in their military buildup during the Interwar Period.
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  22. ​ @ilmari1452  - and why was the Finnish Democratic Republic established if Moscow "didn't want all of FInland"?
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  23. To put it plainly: why did Moscow do the same thing?
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  24. ​ @theheadshot45  - not cope, I'm afraid. And you know it full stop.
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  25. ​ @MarxinRios  - fun fact: the Soviets actually helped the very Germans that would invade them later (case in point, the Leichttraktor).
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  26. ​ @londop.a.3048  - something tells me you're missing a lot of context for Finland siding with the Nazis.
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  27. Finland remains independent after the Winter War, so yes it did survive.
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  28.  @Harvest133  - not quite, it seems. Again, there's the Finnish Democratic Republic.
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  29.  @Harvest133  - dude, don't play dumb.
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  30. ​ @spatrk6634  - "It was never the plan to annex finland into the soviet union." - then why was the Finnish Democratic Republic established if the Soviets weren't "planning to annex Finland"?
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  31. ​ @SirPeacemaker - the answer is pretty obvious here. Finland survived as an independent entity to this day.
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  32. And yet, why was the Finnish Democratic Republic established again?
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  33. ​ @PeterMaXXHorvath  - except not quite, and you know it.
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  34. Soviets didn't capture Helsinki, failed to bring in the Finnish Democratic Republic, lost a good chunk of men for little strategic gains... Yes, Finland survived the war and continues to exist to this day.
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  35.  @arijao92  - "I agree joining NATO was a huge mistake though" - not really. Besides, the events at Moldova and Chechnya were more than enough for people to not mind joining.
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  36. ​ @dimas3829  - same can be said with Russia despite using different methods. No one's disagreeing here that no one's hands during the Chechen wars were clean, but the reason why I mentioned it anyway is because Eastern Europeans know how Moscow operates (some firsthand).
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  37.  @dimas3829  - not quite. And you know that...
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  38. Off-topic there, buddy.
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  39. ​ @Jerry-sw8cz  - see "Finnish Democratic Republic" "THEIR CONCERN WAS TO DENNY THE NAZIES PLATFORM TO LAUCH INVASIONS" - and Moscow failed horribly, especially when they forced most of their most competent officers and soldiers to the firing squad or gulags. Oh, there's also the Leichttraktor and Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. And there's the part that Berlin was echoing pro-Soviet propaganda while the war progressed.
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  40. Except, not quite.
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  41. Except, Germany was running pro-Moscow messaging over the course of the Winter War.
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  42. And yet, the creation of the Finnish Democratic Republic says otherwise.
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  43. ​ @brucknerian9664  - in 2024 when the CIA/Nato led a coup to overthrow the democraticallly elected government in power" - nope, it's debunked.
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  44.  @JonTan-z3e  - "if i recall correctly it was the soviet union that single handedly defeated facism and saved the world" - while ignoring the part that they propped up said Germans during the Interwar Period, invaded Poland back in the 1920's only to fail the first time - and then succeeded in 1939 with the agreement of the Mustache Man. "ur 31 friends in western europe and northern europe and UK didnt couldnt even do a thing and all fell like dominoes." - while on the subject of WWII, said friends in western and northern Europe stopped the German advance on the western front, stopped the German advance on the North Africa front, curbed the U-boat menace in the Atlantic threating allied shipping (and that includes some of Lend-lease heading to Russia), launched bombing raids on German factories, air fields, rail lines, among other things and established air superiority over mainland Europe by 1945, launched an invasion into said mainland via D-Day that stretched the Germans very thin and lead them to their defeat. Even some prominent Soviet officials--supposedly including Stalin himself--pointed out the importance of the western allies during the war.
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  45. "They didn't" - they did. Finland wasn't able to fully retake their captured territories, but they remained independent. As for the Soviets, they weren't able to win either - especially considering that they established the now-botched Finnish Democratic Republic for the purpose of managing Helsinki.
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  46.  @Elkdepompeya  -buddy, you know it ain't half of Finland.
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  47.  @Elkdepompeya  - "If you lose territory..." - you don't exactly lose the war right away. The hard part for the invader is to actually hold it long enough. Something tells me you know that ain't exactly the case.
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  48.  @Elkdepompeya  - dude, you should have already know it by now.
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  49.  @Elkdepompeya  - not quite. As I've mentioned before, the Soviets didn't win either even when you consider that Moscow helped found the now-botched Finnish Democratic Republic. Dude, no one's denying the outcome of the Winter War. You just didn't see the devil in the details.
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  50.  @Elkdepompeya  - "Finland lost that war." - yet remained independent. Soviets didn't exaclty win either. "and lost again." - and still remains independent to this day. Don't try to deflect here.
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  51.  @Elkdepompeya  - "if you loose you losse." - honestly, your spelling indicates that you don't have much of a clue. Again, no one here's denying the outcome. Finland remains independent, that's what they achieved despite losing some land. The Soviets... well, their Finnish Democratic Republic idea went bust, so they didn't win either. And again, devil in the details - and you just ignored it.
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  52.  @Elkdepompeya  - dude, don't deflect. You know that.
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  53.  @Elkdepompeya  - dude, cut the act. "Findland lost territory in the winter war, they lost." - as I've mentioned countless times, NO ONE'S DENYING. You're the one spinning it, not me.
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  54. And Stalin failed to capture Helsinki and install the Finnish Democratic Republic, lost a lot of men capturing what is essentally some land of little strategic value, and threats of intervention from other powers.
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  55. ​ @ФедяКрюков-в6ь  - then why help establish the Finnish Democratic Republic if it wasn't Stalin's goal? Be honest here.
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  56. ​ @ФедяКрюков-в6ь  - so, not quite? Again, be honest here.
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  57. ​ @lavozdelsur168  - "soviet war goal was never to take over whole finland" - the founding of the Finnish Democratic Republic suggests otherwise.
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  58. Except, not quite.
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  59.  @Harvest133  - dude, again don't play dumb. Because we already know.
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  60. Hate to break it, but it's incorrect... and you know it.
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  61. ​ @logratis1  - nope. And why continue with the lie? The answers to those "conspiracies" are way, way, WAY more mundane thay you may believe.
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  62. "and brutally being invaded by Muslims with several regions occupied." - incorrect.
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  63.  @malinyamato  - not quite.
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  64. ​ @JoseSilva-wv2sh  - then why did Moscow help found the Finnish Democratic Republic for the purpose of managing from Helsinki?
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  65. ​ @deathitself6985  - except not quite, as a YouTuber by the name of Sarcasmitron would like to point out.
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  66. "They turned against God..." - this sounds like this applies more to Russia.
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  67. The "Islamists" bit is way, way, WAY OVERBLOWN... ...especially considering how some Chirstians (specifically the far-right) behave.
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  68. ​ @malinyamato  - not quite. Dude, be honest here.
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  69. ​ @malinyamato  - yawn Dude, are you sure you know what you're doing?
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  70. ​ @Marcg-b4n  - and yet, can you explain why Moscow decide to help the very Germans that invaded them later with their rearmament during the Interwar period?
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  71. ​ @1Warmetallic1  - "Brits and USA also supported Nazis :)" - ahem, the LeichtTraktor would like a word.
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  72. ​ @Arhatu  - "Soviets knew the only force capable of fighting NAzis were them" - except, there are signs pointing to Lend-Lease playing a much more effective role in fighting the Third Reich than the Soviets themselves (not disrespect). Even some Soviet officers thanked the program.
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  73. And yet, why did the Soviets establish the Finnish Democratic Republic if they weren't planning to "destroy" Finland?
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  74.  @MrJesterJam  - ain't nonsense, I'm afraid. It's true.
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  75.  @SirPeacemaker  - dude, look at the video again (and do research into the Winter War).
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  76. Well, except the part of trying to install the Finnish Democratic Republic in Helsinki.
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  77. "Finland did not survive" - and yet, why is the Finnish state still here and why they became the nation we know and love today?
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