Comments by "suraj s" (@surajs5913) on "India's Semiconductor Failure" video.

The Indian population is waking up to the strategic importance of economic autonomy - making it politically viable to invest in industries of "strategic importance" in sectors like manufacturing and defense more viable. So the picture isn't over yet- after all, true failure is giving up...
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@premsai2050 i struggle trying to complete my masters thesis and compensate for the my dejection at my academic failures by trying to be a smartass in youtube. What do you do for a living?
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Tranquility TenThousand thats your opinion, and the opinion of your "ethinic indian" friends. Instead of trying to correct your opinion, all i would say is that "may your beleifs protect you". My opinion differs from yours, and I am willing to put mu money and my life where my mouth is. If what you say is true, then you have nothing to fear or care about India.
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@jetsamjetsam i like this idea - blaming the Indian for an MNC's inability to make a breakthrough. It reminds me of a failed artist, who looked like charlie chaplin and was born in austria...
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@sleepyboy India is no superpower. Sure we have nukes, a good deal of diplomatic relations, a tech savvy hungry youth, etc. but we also have loads of problems. Can India become a superpower? That depends on a multitude of factors too complex for any human to make a clear prediction. Should India aspire to be a superpower? The Indians certainly do. If you think India's desire for superpowerdom is based on chest thumping ultranationalism or inferiority complex driven egos, you would be wrong. Indians have acquired the ability to ensure that any future invasion of India ends with global annihilation. Beyond that, the driving force to India's bid to pre eminence is based on romanticism with the recorded history of India. As an Indian, my aspiration to see India becoming a superpower is also based on philosophical reason. I personally believe the rise of India will benefit all life. But hey, if you believe that India is a failed state beneath contempt, Indians can learn to be quite persuasive.
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Lol you dont know Indian history i wager. In 1947 the entire world bet that India would break up into different regional states within 2 decades. In 1975 it was predicted that India would never return to democracy. All throughout its independent history the republic of India has been tried to be utilised as a pawn for greater powers, right from the cold war era to the present age. India's existence and its unwavering commitment to "strategic autonomy" despite multiple secessionist and extremist movements that persisted for decades, is proof that India did a lot of things right.
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Tranquility TenThousand Asianometry doesnt think so, but you are entitled to your opinion. But presuming that you are right, i dont understand the logic of MNCs that invest in India. India imports 100 percent of its chips, its not like the government could sanction any of these companies that have set up research centres without significantly hurting the Indian economy (since semiconductor devices account for the 2nd largest chunk of foreign reserve expenditure after energy (ie crude oil)). Yet these MNCs continue investing and expanding their foothold in India, and i sincerely doubt that you have a better understanding of the human resource pool than multiple MNCs...
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Qualcomm, Intel, all have offices in India all for this purpose. India does not lack design expertise but manufacturing expertise is something very different and very important in this field.
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@ex0duzz so basically you are suggesting that India should discard its native cultures (instead of hoping for any reforms similar to a renaissance, even though India has been going through a prolonged cultural reform for the past century) and just anglicise or sinicize in order to become a major player in the global stage... NO, India did not gain independence for acheiv8ng either outcome. Indian progress will be done in a Indian way. The Indian way is a work in progress, but if India is to survive even as a nation state , and not suffer balkanisation, that is the only way. The solutions offered thus are complicated and require consistent coordinated effort. Critics will say that the "Indian way" is doomed to fail and will acheive mediocrity at its best. Its ultimately upto the Indian populace to decide whether the critics are right or not...
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@ex0duzz regarding womens rights and caste system, those aspects are included in my claims of 100 years of continuous social reform. Those are processes that are underway, but not at the cost of discarding entire beleif systems. These reforms are still grounded in the core philosophies of Bharateeya civilisation, philosophies which allow for a great deal of flexibility. But beyond that, i doubt studying about 99 genders will happen anytime soon. Nor will there be any null8fication of Indian languages or regional identities, ie nothing similar to "Hanification" will occur. If India is to overtake the US in coming decades the above process of caste and gender social reform will have to continue. It is actually the hi du nationalist government that is supporting these reforms rather than opposing them. But there are other forces like marxist party that call for elimination of all cultural identity or their suppression from public life. They are more dangerous than any foreign enemy .
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@dragonchan google
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@therealb888 sectors of strategic importance will not be denied entry to private players, but private industries will be encouraged. Atleast that was the vision projected behind the govt vision for privatisation. The best example to demonstrate that currently is in the defense sector, where companies (including MNCs like Tata and startups like ideaforge) are being promoted while sensitive research is undertaken by HAL, DRDO, etc. That seems a fair good approach, one of minimum govt and using the govt resources for research rather than market participation. For weak sectors like semiconductor fab, incentives, subsidies and PLI schemes are being proposed as tactics to establish the industry now.
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@fannyalbi9040 what is definition of superpower? Answer me that and i will make my next reply
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I think the real problem is the sheer investment required over sustained period of time to acheive success.
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@PumpkinEater-dm1xx They probably can beat India in that aspect too. I fail to see how that is relevant since a comparison for best design ecosystem does not solve the fundamental problem India has in terms of not having FAB industry. Comparing India to taiwan, whose entire economy has been centred around FAB design and manufacture seems like a no brainer.
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@therealb888 https://youtu.be/WZ_Kvw8n758 ^regarding the Parliament building. How many earthquakes did delhi have in 2020 ? Is it prudent to sanction new Parliament building only after the old one collapses? After all, sufficient cracks have developed to make the structural integrity doubtful. As for startups, i do not know of a single i stance where the govt choked private startups at the behest of MNC's . In case you are unaware of the semiconductor fabrication industry, this industry requires decades of expertise to be competitive, because no startups likely to be able to perfect chip manufacturing at a <20 nanometer scale at the its very inception . The smaller the scale of manufacturing , the more transistors (or mosfets, since they have better performance than bjt) that can be packed , allowing for greater design complexity and better performance for the same size. Comparing the number of transistors between the intel processors online will give you a rough idea on this. As a consumer , dont expect me to buy a intel pentium series chip over a core i5 chip simply because the manufacturer is a Indian startup.
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@therealb888 communalism is undesirable. It is preventable when both communities come together and agree to discuss all things freely. It is not preventable when communities protest and burn down police stations over a facebook post, say in a city like bangalore. Communalism is inevitable when communities hold so.e things to be non negotiable, li ke calling for analysis of recorded islamic history and reform in islam, similar to analysis and institutionalised reforms in hinduism, from temple entry movements to caste reservation and the recent judgement on inheritence rights of women. A bridge can be built if attempt is made from both sides. Tell me who was it that opposed decriminalisation of homosexuality ? BJP, RSS, or congress and muslim bodies? I am a hindutvawadi only as long as hindutva is reformist and progressive. Hindutva is progressive fundamentalism, because Indian philosophy has scope enough to allow such seemingly contradictory political ideologies to exist and flourish.
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@dragonchan yes
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So less than 1 percent of population is responsible for all problems ? Wah what a way to absolve yourself of any responsibility
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Yes its the best investment, because semiconductors are the brain of modern tech. Irrespective of china taiwan geopolitics, setting up this industry in India is paramount if India wants to embed itself in global supply chains. India's goals do not stop at competing toe to toe with china, a fab manufacturing centre is a long term investment that will insulate India from any adverse geopolitical situation in the future by any nation, including the USA.
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I beleive thats the logic of recent govt schemes to invite taiwanese companies to set up shop in India at attractive rates. India has no other hope in the near future in this highly specialised Industry, and Taiwan is always looking for friends who have a strained relationship with PLA. I am dumbfounded why this wasnt done earlier, then i realise India tried to placate china for the past 20 years to avoid risk of a two front war.
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@jkuang i will explain to you the reasoning of the Indian mind, then you may decide if it is the colonial outlook or not. India is very much jeleous of what china has acheived in terms of rapid economic growth. Jealousy is possible only if you admire a person. But the fact ia that India has been trying and failing at becoming a major manufacturing hub due to the better organised economies of SE Asia and China. The trade deficit with China and repeated articles in Global Times mocking India however does not increase India's friendship. As for the british, they are losing their relevance, but a lot more has to be done in terms of education before Indians realise the cost of colonialism, not in terms of wealth looted but in terms of social institutions destroyed, the degree to which the native cultures were distorted, etc. The sense of injustice and desire for revenge however is greatly dampened from what is expected from a group of people, when one analyses the entirety of Indian History. The british did not start the above mentioned process, merely accelerated it after islamic conquests had already warped India in a similar manner. That is why India considers pakistan as a mortal enemy (and by extension any country that supports pakistan). Imagine if mongolia was still strong and frequently boasted of subduing the weak chinese. How would China feel about India if India used Mongolia to hamper chinese progress? These are the geopolitical narratives that dominate south asia. So the obsession with china is directly related to pakistan, especially since the 4 wars and sustained conflict with pakistan has been seen by the present generation. The fact that there are still "maoist" insurgencies operating in the dense forests of central India, in a region called the "red belt" does not increase Indian affection towards china either, even though the CCP allegedly stopped funding these insurgency groups some time ago. None of this however dampens the attitude of India to the West however western colonisation was due to their advanced weapons technology and disunity among Indian princely states. Both these have resulted in the modern progressing Indian state to be ultra nationalistic and focus heavily on defence, including the creation of nuclear bombs. But I have to acknowledge here that a certain section of Indian political class (the Indian National Congress) who ruled the central administration till 1994 were very much jeleous towards the west and essentially aping the west instead of rebuilding Indian civilisation. That is the major schism in Indian political thought that is happening in the past 7 years after the hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (which means Bharat(what Indians call India) People's Party) have cemented power at the central level. The british however face no love from India, even though there is no sustained animosity either. China faces less animosity from Indians who actually know history, because even if China invented gunpowder, it was not chinese guns that colonised India. That is the reason why "reverse colonisation" of britain is taking place, why Indian MNCs are so eager to buy and control British MNC's etc. Such tendencies are influenced by history, and it remains to be seen how far India will try to dominate britain as India progresses. I know why the chinese attitude to India is how it is. Holding independent India accountable for aiding the "white ape" to enforce its colonial dominance or facilitate the opium trade will not increase any love between India and China. Claiming that the "brown ape" is still a slave with no aspirations and tied down by ancient outdated ideologies and religions will not help foster friendship either. The only way forward for a India China friendship is mutual understanding and adjusting with each other. But china is not so keen to pursue this policy of give and take with India whose economy is one fifth of china. Perhaps in a few decades, any such option could be revisited. As an Indian who knows history, i would rather have a Chinse civilisational state as an ally of India (and i also hope India moves beyond outdated western paradigms of state organisation and reorganises itself into a civilisational state in the coming decades) than any western country. But this is the geopolitical reality of this moment and this decade.
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@jkuang any clarifications on the above stated details would be appreciated, as will be your views and perceptions. Any level of understanding is impossible without unrestricted mutual exchange of ideas.
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@jkuang if you dont relate to the analogy of India supporting mongolia, consider the analogy of India supporting Japan, which India has done from right after ww2. However the atrocities of Japanese Army in china were somewhat contested in 1944 and India tried to establish good relationship with both china and japan, china due to historical reasons and japan because it was an axis power who helped set up the Indian National Army under Subash Chandra Bose (even though japan was essentially a more bloodthirsty asian equivalent of britain). Of course India Japan relationship is another complication in India China relationship... but i believe you understand the sentiment and how support of pakistan makes China inimical to the Indian psyche.
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