Comments by "suraj s" (@surajs5913) on "Eye on Tamil Nadu politics as elections approach — Stalin, Sasikala, EPS, OPS u0026 God in the mix" video.

According to their own narrative they are the original Indus Valley people. But yet they dont care about Lord Shiva or Maa Durga. They are just power hungry closet communists...
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There is still a lot of change that needs to be done. Freeing temples from government financial regulation, reestablushing hindu religious institutions like gurukuls, promote indigenous culture literature language and arts (including banned martial arts like kalaripayattu all across India) etc. while progressing rapidly as a country is needed.
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1 step at a time is still progress. BJP may win more than 1 seat now in Kerala (my home state). This is the pattern of their growth even in WB and now they threaten Mamata Begum...
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@manjulashanmugasundaram706 the evidence of hindus forcing their traditions on others has enough examples (or lack thereof) across history. It isnt mohan bhagvat that demands that entire indian meat industry should become ahalak and every animal slaughtered should be in the name of allah. It isnt mohan bhagwat or his people who breed like rabbits to grab political power in the era of democracy. And it isnt mohan bhagwat who convinces poor illiterate tribals that their pagan gods are false and christ is the only true way to salvation. Given history, its completely utterly idiotic to see what hindus say about the RSS
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@manjulashanmugasundaram706 i was under the assumption that vedic religion was entitled to have an opinion, even a snobbish elitist opinion, as long as that opinion didn't require the destruction or desecration of tribal rituals and practices. I believe that is the essence of tolerance even in modern age : that people are entitled to even wrong opinions but not entitled to forcing those opinions on unwilling people. If the vedic religions had forced said opinions on the tribals like the christian missionaries did, there would be no tribal opinion or philosophy after 2000+ years of systematic conversion. Would you acknowledge that, or are you still looking for the approval of vedic religion text (which itself doesn't state to be only authority of the land, but obviously proclaims itself to be the best path to god just like any self believing ideology)?
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@manjulashanmugasundaram706 no need to call me sir. I am probably younger than you. As a practising hindu i want a rule of reason rather than a rule of superstition. Those who say hinduism is a set of superstition dont know abiut the schools of rationality (both theist schools and non theist schools) that have existed through the ages. Similarly those who look down on tribal philosophies are ignorant of the evolution of the same, and how instrumental these tribal philosophies have been in allowing the coexistence of humans with the rest of nature. They too have their own logic and reasoning suited and crafted for their own climate, geography , culture and society. Anyone (including some idiot hindu) who claims "only my way is the right way" is an idiot. Unfortunately there are more idiots than not, so you have to make your culture idiot proof to survive (essentially work on your philosophy so that even the above hindu idiot and his followers can be convinced or nullified). Personally i believe that the tribal philosophies are the most suited for those regions they developed in and also for similar regions and societies across India and the world. But it is up to you to convince the same to the masses, no one will help you there ...
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@sreekr logically you havent checked if there is a pink elephant either. So purely logically your argument of non existence is also not based on any factual evidence. The fundamental difference between the pink elephant argument and the God argument is explaining life as a vital force. Most religious people differentiate between living and the dead. The vital force that drives living beings (something that seems apparent to religious people) is seen as the highest manifestation of the divine. Such a manifestation is not as nonsensical as a pink elephant, its as obvious as the sun and rain. It can be scientifically proven to be a complex illusion ( though nothing so far has been proven or disproven) but it is so obvious to common people that every other argument of atheism fails in the Indian context of philosophy.
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@ramjidharmaraj personally i don't think the existence of suffering is any sign of the lack of god. Periyars atheism is philosophically simplistic and immature. It may work against abrahamic ideologies like Islam, who claim that the divine is the manifestation of good. But the logic of suffering as a proof of negating gods existence fails splendidly against dharmic arguments according to which all of existence is a manifestation of the divine, including all joy and suffering of this observable existence. In fact, following dharma is not for service to anyone else but to refine the divine knowledge in oneself and ascend to a higher state of identification of the self with the all pervading Brahman. Periyars atheism fails before such lofty thoughts even if his social movement did change the perversions in hindu society at that time (perversions of the caste system which reached their zenith during the mughal and british rule, as can be seen from the historical evidence available on caste throughout centuries)
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@manjulashanmugasundaram706 the game is not over yet. The game is over only when you give up. As long as there is peace in India there is hope. And there is more hope under this current dispensation (not necessarily because of it alone) than under any other administration in the past 300 years. If you see the vedic religion as vultures, you are entitled to do so. But i urge you to learn and develop your philosophy in detail so that it can survive and compete solely on the strength of your argument as well. Historical wrongs or hate is not enough for long term flourishing of tribal philosophies. I dont care if you consider vedic philosophies as enemies. Hinduism itself is undergoing the thought process of regaining its own philosophical strength, of rospering and spreading solely on the basis of its worldview. The development of tribal thought will not face opposition from vedic thought as long as no violence is involved.
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@hitesh671 Muhammad was human. Brahma is a divine being. It isnt mandatory for divine beings to fuck like animals to reproduce... depending on what you beleive (shiva purana or vishnu purana) shiva or vishnu were self conceived (they created themselves) . Your conventional logic of lund and choot does not apply to them... try to understand that, and try to understand physical limitations of the human body...
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@health-fitnes-s study the historical proofs corroborated by multiple Indian and foreign scholars. Majority of modern extreme caste system was formed in last 4 centuries. A simple reading of the wikipedia page on caste in India is enough to understand that. The same page even provides references to original sources and authors for you to refer if you want a unbiased opinion based on historical facts.
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@sreekr you provided the very answer to your initial question, that theists hold on to a few arguments revolving around "life/death" as justification of divinity. When such lose ends exist, it is unintellectual to claim or believe in either outcome (existence or non existence) with any amount of certainty As for God being natural phenomenon, you really need to study hindu philosophy (not hindutva which is but a few centuries old) to understand how misguided you are. Brahman in Hindu philosophy is the being of the universe, all that is contained from rocks to living beings. Brahman is simply existence. Worshipping existence as god is the highest form of self affirmation or life affirmation possible. Even after that, the self same vedas express scepticism on "who created the universe". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasadiya_Sukta Such scepticism is justifiable. But when you go on to say "only stupid people believe in god, and every logical person is an atheist" thereby implying that you are smarter than someone else, you are so immersed in your own vanity to see the complexity of the problem. I don't need your "easy way out" of the argument by accepting cultural hinduism or cultural hindutva. Though a person is allowed to be both atheist and hindutvadi, being a theist and hindutvadi is more than equally possible. You simply don't understand the complexity of the creator question. The fundamental bone of contention is the concept of "causality". If the universe was created by "god" then who created "god". If someone created "god" then isn't that person "god's god" or "super god" and so on and so forth. Frankly human understanding falls apart at these extremities of logic and thought, similar to how conventional logic fails at the level of quantum mechanics. Unless and until the problem is conclusively solved, all theories about the same are opinions. Granted the "theist" opinions have inherently had more social value than the "atheist" ones historically. But the fundamental question remains unanswered. My conclusion is that your calling out of "proof" is as futile as my calling out of "disproof". If you actually understood the limitations of your logic or intellect as a mere four dimensional mortal being in tackling this problem, you wouldn't be defending the indefensible. In the end people like periyar who preach "atheism" have been just as fervent and resolute in their disbelief as any crusader. That is the worst insult possible to a "rationalist", that he was just as stupid as the believer, the moment he started preaching
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@anandnaa O rajagpal may be stupid but Nemom doesnt vote simply for the intelligence of the candidate? He has used his MLA funds for good purposed like development of schools,rejuvination of rivers, etc. Besides which the areas that come under Nemom voted BJP in the recently concluded local body election. The srat share of the BJP in Trivandrum was impressive. I can say beyond dbt that Nemom will go BJPs way. The question is if BJP can win 9ther arras on the strength of candidates like former IPS officers like Senkumar and Jacob Thomas (the latter is yet to join the BJP but has praised the RSE in the past) The main thing stopping BJP in kerala is the BJP leadership. Christians and even Muslims are gravitating towards the BJP because of the unchanging ideology of civilisational/cultural nationalism of the BJP. Maybe some significant religious seats like guruvayoor, the seat around padmanabhaswami temple, seats containing panthalam (birthplace of Lord Ayyappa) will be easily won by BJP. But the trend in the last 6 years is the slow rise in the vote percentage of the BJP in Kerala, election after election
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