Comments by "Robert Morgan" (@RobertMorgan) on "Taylor The Fiend"
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I had a 'friend' recently telling me, almost demanding, that I need to date single mothers, 'grow my family' he said.
I said I'm only interested in having my own kids, and now that I can afford to buy new, why buy used?
He didn't like that, and told me with a straight face "You can't choose who you love, if you met the right mother and fell in love you'd raise those kids like your own, love just happens!"
And I'm like Bro, not you or anyone else can MAKE ME LOVE SOMEONE, sorry. If you can't control your feelings, which he can't as he married and divorced a stripper out of High School, had kids with her, then was widowed by the older single mother in his second marriage.
It didn't end the friendship but it ended me ever even remotely discussing that topic again.
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I have a friend who is a single father, one divorce, one marriage widower, telling me I HAVE to step up, be a man, an get a single mother, grow my family, be responsible.
When I said I didn't want to pay for another man's ejaculation, lol, he got very upset and said I was brainwashed and the idea my family would chide me for taking on a single mother was because my family was 'controlling' and I need to ignore them.
Like, thanks for the advice, bro, just give up all your dreams and do the one thing you don't want to do, lol.
He even said 'You have zero choice on who you fall in love with, if you love a single mother, you WILL raise those kids as your own' and I'm like no, maybe YOU can't control that, but I can. I can't turn off REVULSION and turn on lust lol. I guess I'm just not that talented lol, he even said he'd had great sex with horrible people, and I'm like how do you even get in the position of being intimate with someone you say you hate, that's so unhealthy and weird, and my calling that out was called weird lol.
This long time friend is relegated to obscurity after all that as far as I'm concerned.
It's easy to say not to get married, don't have kids, by people who have been married and already have kids.
It's easy to say the top of the mountain is boring as you sit up there and throw rocks down on the other men trying to get there.
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Obvious question, if I'm a childfree man, why do I need a stay at home wife?
I'm a single childless (not childfree, huge difference) man, and my house is just fine sitting empty when I'm gone, I do my own household chores because I'm an adult...what would she do sitting all day? While I work?
NOW, exception, my older sister never wanted or had children, she's happily married almost 30 years now, and they own/operate a very successful HVAC business, ans her full time job is managing the finances of that. Her husband's full time job is everything else, doing all the actual work stuff, and it works great, they both go into the office at 8am, leave at 5pm, and they're doing great. She'd go insane staying at home all day lol.
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@jonathangrayson9626 but what's the POINT of getting better?
Ask yourself and BE HONEST, look at all the things you do in life that lead back to why?...to get laid.
Why do I work, why do I have a career? So I can have money, for....clothes and cars and a home and ALLL the stuff we buy, but why do we buy the stuff?
To make yourself more attractive to the opposite sex and reproduce.
If you strip away all the things you do just to get laid, you'd be alone in the woods, growing your own food, making your own clothes, not working, not learning, not doing anything really.
If I knew for a fact there was no one out there for me, I'd do that in a second, I'd abandon society, because all of it is solely for sex and kids.
Think about it really, it's all you do all day, we're that conditioned.
You need this car, why, because it's popular and it'll get me attention. Wear this shirt, not that plain but functional one. Eat at this restaurant but not that one. Be nice to that person even though you hate them.
If you stop caring about getting laid, you have to disengage and remove from society, it's the only way.
You can't leave the game while still living in the game.
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One of my older sisters worked for a local school district...turns out she thought their family was struggling so she embezzled tax money, and got busted, arrested at home, the whole deal, barely avoided prison.
That's when it came out her husband, basically an adoptive father to me, my brother in law, revealed he had a sizable hidden savings account he'd been building his entire life that no one but him knew about, that he was keeping in reserve IN CASE they ever did actually struggle, BUT NOW it's gone because it had to go to fing restitution and legal fees.
I love my sister and she's always been so responsible so it was a huge shock to the family, and was a felony conviction that changed her life, all for NO REASON.
They didn't NEED the money...she WANTED the money, and was willing to steal it from kids, sheesh.
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Can we clarify, what does attention from women MEAN? I keep hearing it.
TO ME, attention from women would be them touching me and asking me out.
So for me, 40, rich, in shape, I get ZERO female attention, and I never have. Am I supposed to be looking for more?
If she doesn't tell me in words I don't assume anything, never have. Whereas I'm straight forward and direct, hey I like you, I'm attracted to you.
Can we get some actual instruction please, some of us with great loving fathers got nothing BECAUSE we had great loving fathers, who never dated lol. My dad's advice for dating was never stiff a hooker, never get married and never have kids SON.
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I tried to stand up for a woman in trouble once. Here's how that worked out:
Junior year of high school, homecoming dance. I'm leaving, and down a hallway I see the following scene playing out, young woman I've known since preschool being held against a wall by her throat by her boyfriend, she's begging to leave, he's telling her she's not leaving, she's crying. [She is white, he is black, this is relevant only later].
I "do the right thing" and walk to them, put a hand in his shoulder and tell him to let her leave if she wants to leave. He grabs me and throws me down. I get up and tell him again to back off. He lets her go and she leaves. I leave.
Fast forward to the follow Monday, I'm called into the superintendents office, with the police there, I'm expelled and being charged with assault for grabbing the guy. It's his word against mine, he's a star basketball player and I'm just a regular fuckup, so no one cares what I say. Of course she refuses to say anything. He even accused me of 'attacking' him for being black'
I ended up going to court, getting probation and community service, being expelled for a full half of Junior year and having to make that up to graduate on time, and learning the strong lesson of doing the right thing is often a bad idea.
I hate to say it, but I wish for my well-being I'd just walked away and thought oh well, she choos to be with him, that's what she gets, and she stayed with him through senior year BTW.
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The difference is, you could choose tomorrow to suddenly want a family, and have like a dozen kids, and everything would be good.
A 54 year old woman does not even remotely have that option.
I had a coworker, retired now, who started his SECOND family at 60. He has adult kids in their 40s almost 50s, and now they have a little 8 year old half brother with the 20 something he married, I think it's inspiring.
I want kids, but I'm ONLY 41, for men these days that's still relatively young, for women these days that's ANCIENT, I look at women near my age like "UGH? HER?"
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And if you look back on that era, there's lots of literature and media (yes it's just entertainment but it reflects the society of the time it's made) where you see the idea of "She's just my mistress, she's not my wife.".
Mad Men portrayed this somewhat. Don caroused and womanized, but he always went back to and loved and supported his wife,kids, family. And he kicked hoes to the curb, because why? Because they're flings, not his family.
I'm not saying this is a good example, commendable, or even acceptable, but it makes more sense than what we have today, with the crazy divorce rate, the abysmal marriage rates, and the infinity supply of single mothers.
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Thank God my state has none of that.
Unless you are legally married, you can live together 50 years, have a dozen kids together, it means nothing, you're even less than roommates. A tenant leasing from you would have more property rights. Zero marital property, nothing common law, cohabitation isn't even a legal definition in my states laws.
And divorce? You as a man can just file the papers and the court will divorce you regardless of the other partner, they have no say. You want divorced, boom, done, you're single now wether she/he wants to or not.
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I like the idea of no fault divorce with kids, the state takes EVERYTHING you BOTH have and it ALL goes into trust for the kids. You have a house together, start looking because the state seized and sold it in your divorce, you're BOTH homeless now, equally, fairly, and YOU CHOSE IT. Retirement? Seized, in your kids account now, start over, YOU ASKED FOR THIS.
Make divorce HURT equally and make it ALL for the kids, OH LOOK the divorce rate dropped 90%
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that's why you have 100% of your shit NOT in your name.
She can have 99% of the nothing I own, no problem, here's a $5 as a tip too lol.
Oh, the 10 million dollar farm, not mine, that's in every family members name, I don't own that, not marital property. Oh and look all my cars and trucks and boats and motorcycles are in my SISTER's name, DARN, guess you starve OH And with your new kid tooooo GOOD THING you have a NEW man SO GOOD you decided to reward him with kids, you two will be fine on his wealth.
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Yes, the comment about coasting...isn't the whole point of a relationship that it makes life easier, less effort, because it's two people combining their resources and talents and efforts?
Or is that just me lol?
If one gets less out of a relationship than they put in, if it's a negative in your life, a losing investment, why have it? It would be like a sport where you can run solo, or you can run with a partner but with a partner you get a penalty of this 50lb weight vest and you have 10 seconds added to your time, now go out there and win!
Everyone would choose that race solo, and you'd never see a team of two win.
But, if that same event was a relay, where you could tag in or out your partner through the race while the other rests, in most cases they'd dominate solo competitors who have to run the whole race.
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fun fact, child support ceases when you're incarcerated.
ERGO, watch out for single moms, they start looking to date when their babydaddy get's locked up because the payments stop.
I'VE SEEN IT, single mom came onto me HARD, I ran her name, saw her divorce so I backgrounded him, whaddayaknow, he went to jail last week, payments stopped, better hit bumble for a new income stream.
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As a single guy I do all those things because I'd not expect another person to do them for me, because no person ever has. Men are easy to please and impress because our expectations for most things are zero tbh. Woman or not, my home will be paid off, clean, and my meals cooked and stuff cared for, because no one else can be counted on to do it. Women leave. That's my trauma talking lol, but yeah, OTHER people are not dependable, YOU are. I know many husbands who do all their own housework because their wife doesn't do it up to standards, and it has to be done, so they just do it.
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17:30 that's sad, she can't be happy or excited FOR her friend for having that huge life moment to share with HER loving partner, all she can manage is to be sad that SHE doesn't get to have that moment for HER.
My sister PISSED the women in my family off when she delivered both of her daughters because she allowed no one in the delivery room except her husband, because that was THEIR moment, she didn't even do a gender reveal, nope, YOU all get to find out after their born, ONLY HER AND HIM knew leading up. I was fine with that, I even defended her decision to her mother and other sisters, it's her and his life now, they're their own family, respect it.
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I guess Im just used to being a man, ain't no one in almost 40 years helped me get home from shit. 30th birthday party, like 20 shots deep, best was a buddy giving me a ride because I couldn't stand or walk to my apt 2 blocks away, and dropped off in the parking lot...leaving the baseball stadium like 13 drinks deep, and all you get is friends pointing you to where your parked and saying drive safe!
As a man you get no help, you learn to never even ask, because you are expected to have your shit together, to do everything for yourself, to adult and handle whatever is happening 101% of the time, 24x7, 365.
It's an astonishing luxury and privilege to live any other way to 99% of men.
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"I have two kids that are MY WORLD, not looking for hookups, only looking for ltr, step up, real men only, can't host, don't drive, I know what I'm worth don't waste my time!"
Stats: 35, 5'1", 225lbs curvy and sexy, more to love
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Meanwhile my father was married 59 years until my mother passed away, and it BROKE me to hear him tell me he's dedicated to staying single until death, because their vow was till death do THEM part, NOT one another. He's still married and will never cheat, he days. 84 and going strong, she passed in 2020 and I still accidentally walk by and catch him crying over her portrait. Occasionally I join him.
When I tell that story to women, I say that's MY bare minimum, if she can't handle that level of dedication, move on. I'm 41, single, never married, no kids, and regret all of that.
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That is the biggest disservice done to us 80s/90s kids, BOX CHECKING THINKING.
For instance, I was told to stay in school, get good grades, so you could go to a good college, so you could get the degree, so you could get the career, so you can get the house/cars/vacations, so you could...win. So you could have the family you're supposed to have.
BUT NOT HOW TO GET ALL OF THOSE THINGS. So here I am at the finish line saying I did the right things, I made it to 40 with no exs or bastards, I got the degree, the job, the house, the farm, the debt free mountaintop, so, where's my issue wife and kids? I checked all the boxes in that upgrade tree, where's the loot?
Oh there's way MORE you have to do than just check the boxes, ah, why not SAY THAT 30 years ago?!
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And the fucked up thing is, at least in my state, if that father is incarcerated, child support orders are suspended. You go to jail and you don't owe anything.
Here's how f-ed up women are, I've had chicks hit on me, then I search their criminal history, see their divorce and child support order, it's all public record, and see her baby daddy just went to jail, so of COURSE she's out single mom prowling for a new man, her money just got turned off.
I've had women confirm this when confronted with it.
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I should add to everyone else, I'm a great success as a man, large farm, house, cars boats, career, everything paid off, retirement already funded, I have literally everything I've ever wanted EXCEPT anyone to share it with, so it feels worthless.
I've built an empire with no one to run it with me, and zero prospects of a legacy.
Here's to the next 40 years of, nothing and boredom I guess.
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I wish that worked for me. I'm the middle brother of four sisters, two older, two younger, I'm a life expert at being a dick to women and meaning it.
I'm 39, single, never married, not even had a women come onto me since Obama was president lol.
Is now the time to switch to niceness?
I also have the issue of holding women up to be standards of my siblings, which is a very high bar none have yet to meet.
And then there's also whomever I'm with having to deal with all those competing women, they hate it, and my family will always come first, even over a wife lol.
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Incel is such an odd term, "involuntary" implies you're being forced against your will to do something.
If you're just not trying at all, if you don't care, is it still involuntary?
I'd wager that for the majority of people described as incels, it's not that they pursue women and fail, it's that they fail to see any women ever worth pursuing.
It's like these tiktoks, it's like they're trying to be as repulsive as possible, not by appearance but by action.
It's like "Hey, she's attractive, maybe I should [she says anything in any of the clips in this video]....NOPE, not worth it."
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Imagine you're a married man, 10 year anniversary time, and you tell her "Babe, so, remember how you really wanted a kid? Ok, so, well, um, yeah. Imetaniceblond20yearoldatthegymandshesoregnantsowecanraisethebaby, that's fine right? She doesn't even matter, but YOU get a kid finally!
Damn, many women might actually go for that insanity, it's so hard to imagine yet not use reason or logic.
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That's why I like Bumble: since women persue there, anytime I get some criticism from a match, I turn it around like "That might be true, but YOU'RE the one hitting on ME, so your criticism says more about you than me lol".
I had some zoomer say something, and I replied as a millennial I don't get it, she's like "Geez, how old are you, like 60?" To which I reply to her frustration "Hey, you're the one hitting on an old guy, you asked for it".
It makes it easy to have the attitude of maybe I'm shit, but here you are hitting on shit so that's your issue lok
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Ikr.
I will say that if she was right place, right time, made it way easy, and I had nothing else to do, and she insisted, I'd probably smash and dash, bust and dust, hit and quit.
But I'd definitely not be going anywhere out of the way to get with her.
So basically the same criteria for j/I in the middle of the day lololol, do I have time, is it worth it, do I feel like it? If the opportunity presents, fine, but I'm not doing extra effort to make it happen
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Because the prenup would not allow such hidden money.
Run your house like a business, cash controls, good bookkeeping, regular audits.
People like her get scammed and end up losing everything, and probably won't even say anything. I've caught fraud in my finances from getting hacked that had I not been on top of my bills would have been a major problem, but I caught it in days by being vigilant. You'd be amazed how fast a scammer that gets your card number can max out your shit, I had it happen, called my card provider, while I'm on the phone they're like "Ok, yes, it's definitely fraud, they just tried to make those same charges several times per SECOND while we've been speaking on the phone, we'll just cancel all that..."
It was like $1200 a minute they were changing on and off all day.
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The intro chicks actually have a point, and it's this: they're adults, they can wear whatever they want, and no one should be telling them what to wear, HOWEVER, that ALSO means they don't get to dictate such things to others, like her man in question.
I can't go out or wear what I desire, neither can or should she. As usual, it's not the standard that's the conflict, it's the DOUBLE STANDARD.
If she gets to do whatever she wants and so do I, I'm not sure how that's a relationship or partnership, but at least it sounds fair.
Compromises are only compromises if BOTH sides get AND LOSE a little of what each want and don't want.
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It's taken me 40 years to realize my dad, 84, is like this. All the time, he asks me something random, I address it, THEN 'while you're here', and he asks me to do what he REALLY wanted to ask me, some totally unrelated thing he 'just happened to think of'. It drives me crazy. Just be direct. He also does what I've come to call 'woman asking' for things, "You know, wouldn't it be great if you (do thing)?" or "Remember when you said you'd do (thing)?".
Meanwhile I'm thinking we're men, dad if you want me to do something just TELL ME to do it, you don't have to hint lol. It's a lesson I learned from women (sisters) that if they MENTION something, that's their way of directly asking. "did you see they opened that new restaurant (name) in (nearby town)?"
Yes, I did see that, is that your way of asking me to take you there/go with you there, because I'll do that.
Maybe I'm just blunt or on the spectrum, but I'm the kind of person to just ask someone "Hey, I want to go do (thing), do you want to go with me, yes/no?"
No. "Ok, then I'll find someone else to, or I'll do it alone".
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Want to really upset them? Tell them I'll date you, but I'd like to talk to your ex husband first, we need both sides of the story, this is America, due process, he gets to face his accusers, I want to adjudicate these allegations. If he's as bad as you say, ok then....but I'm that case, if he's really that bad, why'd you marry him to start with?
And oh look, she left the chat halfway through that idea lulz
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As I approach 40, I've learned that boring is something to aspire to.
Boring means we have nothing to worry about. Everything is handled, sorted, taken care of, squared away, dialed in, locked down, good to go.
If things are boring, it means you're not just fed, you have good food you like and want, you have a nice place, not just shelter, you have money left over to do what you want, and knowing if some catastrophe strikes you're at least somewhat prepared.
Boring is exciting as fuck to me. Boring means you have the STABILITY to possibly go so not-boring stuff.
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My coworker's common law wife, not married, tried that.
The court granted her the restraining order....for a day until his attorney showed the court the house was solely in his name, so they slapped HER with a restraining order, BUT since she claimed he 'threatened' their kids, they gave her custody temporarily BUT she was HOMELESS now, so THE STATE took their kids to foster care, together they had to spend tons of money, counseling, interviews, supervised visits, for EITHER of them to get their kids back at all.
Now they're back to living together like nothing even happened.
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Exactly, and as a supervisor of men, it's a powerful place to come from, "Go do that terrible, horrible job no one wants to do, and here are the tips I can give you from when I did it last. That's right, I'm not just your boss, I WAS you not that long ago, and no, I would not ask anyone to do anything I won't.
It's why I'm IN CHARGE, I would do the things other's would not.
Common thread here, my dad who raised me was US Army, 101st Airborne retired.
I grew up with that mindset, you get to the door YOU FUCKING JUMP, because if you don't it's the job of the man behind you to KICK YOU OUT because the jump line waits for no man and it's all BIGGER THAN JUST YOU.
Leading from the front is a skill that has to be taught.
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She even says, we used to meet, talk, date and so on, but now you have to prove yourself...WHAT DO YOU THINK TALKING AND DATING WAS FOR?!?!?
You're attracted to someone, you meet them, and you interact to see if they're worth your time beyond attraction, how hard is that to figure out? Was she just banging any guy that showed any interest in her, no proving required? Hell, probably, now that I think of it.
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16:30 If your SONS are ignorant, YOU FING DID THAT, MOM.
YOU had ONE job, not a career, not a happy adventure, ONE JOB, A DUTY to raise your kids how YOU wanted, and you abdicated that apparently.
Do not gripe about how you made your kids turn out with your actions. You had all the control.
The exact opposite response I've seen from actually rational parents was an interview I saw in the past with super-liberal parents who had far-right kids, and one set of parents said "We raised our kids to be critical thinkers who make their own decisions for their own reasons...If we give them those tools to use, and they USE THEM, how can I be disappointed with that. So what they didn't make the same decision as me, it's THEIR decision and we love them for it". That is worthy of respect, those are good people.
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I have the opposite problem, I'm property wealthy, but income poor. I make $40k/year, but if you saw my (inherited) property, the math is easy, I'm in the 8-figure net worth range, on paper, IF I sold everything.
I'm also debt free, which is a foreign concept to women. $40k sounds low until you realize my living expenses are like $15k/year total, and my farm brings in more than that on it's own, so my salary is entirely discretionary.
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Um, the entire point is to signal interest, full stop, zero other reason. I'm attracted to her, I want to get her attention, buy a drink.
If I'm not attracted to her, she doesn't exist, she is not a person, she is not there, why would I buy her a drink?
People forget the point of the exercise here. Drinking itself is far easier, faster, and cheaper at home. You go to the bar for the social aspect.
It's like "Why would I spend time at a used car lot when I'm not in the market for a car?", And conversely why would you hang around a shoe store when you want to buy a car.
Do the thing intended at the place you are, lol
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@erinobrien8793 There is a HUGE difference and that difference is COMMUNICATION. Go out with me, OR let me buy you dinner are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. If a sales rep at my workplace says lets go to lunch, I'm assuming I'M paying for me, unless he says let ME take you out to lunch, MY TREAT, or Let me buy you lunch.
Payment expectations should be setup upfront AND assumptions should be DISPELLED.
Like homie said in that first clip, if I'm not getting any, and you said I'm not, why would I pay to feed you? A romantic date with no romance is just eating with a stranger, it's kind of a waste of HIS time. Be goal oriented, have intention.
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I was listening to a podcast recently where Micky Royal, ex pimp, was interviewed. He made a great point he learned from his mentor: you can make more money selling images of naked women than you can selling actual naked women. That's why he mainly produced porn, he says. It was far more lucrative than prostitution, it scales infinitely, and it's LEGAL. A lady of the night can only 'serve' so many clients per day, but a video of her can be sold a million times an hour, a second, and forever.
Another point, if some chick is selling herself on OF and making anywhere close to seven-figures yearly, I have zero sympathy. With earnings like that, you should be able to be secure for life. With responsibility, your needs should be met in perpetuity once you're a millionaire.
Can you live a baller lifestyle, no. But you should own a home, you shouldn't be going hungry.
"Oh, I can't make rent!"
B, why are you renting, you made hundreds of K last year!?
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It should be happy life, happy wife.
If I as a man am happy, it means there is zero conflict. It means the bills are paid months ahead, the house is clean, the landscaping is on point, savings is topped off, fridge is full of food, everything is handled everywhere, because as a man I'm not happy until I'm at that state, and that means everything I'm responsible for is also happy, such as the wife and kids.
If I'm not happy, there's no happy life for anyone because if I'm not happy it means we're under external attack, or natural disasters, or war/recession.
At any rate no one cares anyway
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It's weird, if a guy has no desire to get with her, he won't do or take anything from her, get away, you're acting weird I'm busy lol ...
But women, if they're benefitting it doesn't matter lol, they'll take all the attention no matter what, especially if they want nothing to do with you lol.
If a woman I'm not attracted to offers to buy me a drink, I'd say no, I'm not attracted to you and I don't want to owe you lol. Try that guy over there, he's more your speed .
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Try actually saying that,with words. If you're worth it, they'll wait. Most men see it as they were virgins for decades, if she's worth waiting for AND SHE will commit for LIFE, we'll wait.
In my case, I'm 41, I've had my fun, all I want is kids now. And I see the sole purpose of marriage is having and raising kids, other than that I have little use for a woman, I don't really even have male friends. I'm kind of a loner, so I want a great woman to be alone together with our large family.
I tell women that today and they flee because THEY seem to only be looking for sex. It's become meaningless to them. If a chick hooked up with me today, to me, I'd think we're committed now...she'd bang 2 other guys before I ever get to say that, that's happened to me lol.
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@Alvin-1138 ask yourself this, IF the kids are the PRIMARY concern, then whomever is deemed the one ABLE to pay child support to the other parent is who gets the kids, because they have the most resources.
If the court reviews everything and sees the mother could pay $1500/month in child support if the dad got custody, and the dad could pay $3000/month to her if she gets the kids, it makes ZERO sense for her to get the kids, they'd be taken care of TWICE AS WELL by the father.
In that case the dad would get the kids and their burden, and she would get nothing, no kids, no having to pay child support, and the kids are better off.
I makes no sense to take money from him and give to the 'lesser' parent, if she wants to leave, she leaves clean, and he takes on the burden as men do.
And if that's reversed, he could pay $3k and she could pay $10k, it would make sense she gets the kids AND no child support, she has more resources.
All that would involve removing emotion from things, so that's not happening.
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Pro tip, put ON a fake wedding ring and watch the attention from women intensify. It's strange to see, but I've seen it personally, with coworkers at a job long ago...the young women I worked with didn't pay me any mind for months on our shift, until one day I wore a silver band my girlfriend at the time got me. Like the second day of wearing it, I'm now getting questions, oh I didn't know you're married, oh you're not, what's she like, where does she live, are you happy together, are you staying together... suddenly now that I was not seemingly available to them, now I'm interesting, what does she have we don't. It's that weird thinking where women only seem to want what they can't have or are the worst for them.
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@superdave8248 "Our logical mind ponders what you did for them to act like that as men avoid acting abusive"...[mindblown.gif]
Exactly. I live in a world where if you are telling me something, I assume the reason is you're asking my advice on how to solve that problem, so I'm not going to accept "this happened out of the blue", I'm going to start INVESTIGATING, seeking more info, circumstance, evidence, is that what you reat want chick, lol.
Anyway, why are you on a date with ME talking about other guys you fucked, odd topic, turn off lol.
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Guy I work with, twice divorced, two adult daughters who hate him, late 50s, is dating a chick almost 60 and they live together, is always complaining she never puts out, that all he's there for is the place to live and the sex, and how unhappy he is she doesn't bang him enough...
I told him you know, you can just leave if you're unhappy, you're a man, you do what you want.
He came to work the next day and told me "I was thinking about what you said, and, I'd never thought about it like that, you're right, I could leave if I'm not happy, I never realized that was an option." That was a year ago and they're still together, still griping.
But it was crazy to me, to hear that from a much older, more experienced man (I'm 41, no kids, never married) that the idea of walking away and being alone wasn't even something he could conceive of. Didn't even cross his mind.
He also plainly states "Men NEED P**sy, we NEED it, it's a REQUIREMENT." and the way he says it, you almost believe it lol. He was raised by a single dad with 3 other brothers, so I guess it makes sense. I was raised with all sisters so I can take it or leave it, the drama has to be less then the trouble of getting laid for me, I like peace over a piece.
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ALL the male ambition I see day in and day out is WOMAN DRIVEN.
I'm single, wealthy, and happy. I don't want more, I want LESS so I have the freedom to do more of what I WANT To do.
MOST of the men I know are constantly getting pushed pushed pushed by a woman at home, YOU"RE better honey, YOU need that raise, YOU need to stomp on that other coworker and get that promotion, you need to do all these things for MORE because I'm telling you to!
You talk to that guy and he'll tell you if she'd stop that, bring him a beer, put out, and back the fuck off with the ambition pushing they'd be 1000% happier. It's women pushing men to be WORSE for THEIR benefit.
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@NahuCommNS yeah, hoes and dolls is where we ALREADY are, that's already what's not meeting our needs for connecting and Intimacy and trust. My ex is the sole person in earth that could tell me to my face, bald faced lie that I told her to tell, that "You'll figure it out, everything is going to be Ok".
Even knowing she was lying, telling a lie I told her to tell me, I still felt better because I trusted her. It's the trust that allowed her to cheat for so long lol.
No whore or doll is going to give me that.
Sex is a need I can meet in 5 minutes, anytime...it's all the missing stuff around the physical act of sex we can't buy or steal or manufacture or get from a drink or drug.
I know, I've been trying it myself for 15 years single now. If you found a whore/doll combo that's legal and meets all a man's need, fuckin' share, mate, everyone here is all ears.
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It's not that men don't need a safe space, we do. I spend a Looooooooot of money making every space I dwell in safe, via training or equipment. I'd hope any man would.
The correct statement is men know, always have, always will, that we'll never be GIVEN a "safe space". Nope, never seen it once.
And here's why: because men are counted on TO CREATE EVERY SAFE SPACE.
We do the work, we set things up, and when it goes sideways, who does the safe space call to ensure safety? Men, with guns, called police.
My whole life as a man is a safe space, any man's whose isn't is dead right now. No one is protecting you except you.
It's like that meme with the happy children playing in a carefree idyllic scene, with the father leaving over them and you see his back blocking and taking all the bullets and arrows that threaten them.
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10:00 I try to tell people of both genders that, take a minute to think about the REAL reason you do SO MANY things, you might discover you do a LOT tying to get laid without realizing it.
It's all the societal pressure you grew up with, it's IN you. You need to do well in school,to go to college, to get a good career, WHY? Because no WOMEN like a DUMB man, or a broke man, or a loser man, so work hard to not be those things, otherwise you'll never get women.
Drink the right beer to be attractive to women, drive the nice car you needed the career for to drive to your awesome house, why because that's what YOU want, no who cares about what you want, it's what you get that women want you for. Advertising is based on this simple idea, that if you don't aspire to X product, that will cost you Y amount of chances with women.
Once you realize that, you understand a lot of the things society expects us to do, if you remove the incentive, the BRIBE, the reward of women, why the hell would we do that? If I found out I could never have children, full stop, absolutely impossible, I was sterile, my life would radically change, I'd stop consuming, I'd stop doing most things that I do to appear 'acceptable' because why? I have no future, so fuck the present lol.
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I've had guy friends tell me that's BS, your family and friends have no say In who you get with, and I'm like even if they're terrible for this friend or family member, no one wants them to get hurt or abused, and think they can do better? His response was that's not your problem...but also, he married a stripper out of high school, got stuck with her 2 kids, married a much older single mom, had another kid with her then she widowed him unexpectedly, now he's looking for more single moms and telling me I'm stupid and 'Judgemental' for not dating single moms, and need to stop caring how who I date looks to other people .
Sorry man, your family might be a mess, but mine isn't, and if the choice is sloot or family, family wins EVERY TIME.
Only idiots and movie characters abandon their entire family to run off with a piece of tail.
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If I mentioned I was sick, and some woman brought me soup and a humidifier, I'd probably be thinking "I probably need to (insert her favorite sexual favor) her later, that was really nice of her"
Not, wow she brought me stuff out of nowhere, I MUST BE THE SHIT, I changed her into a great women just by being me around her, I'm awesome. LULZ.
That really is what that chick said, he brought me soup when I was sick, not because HE was a great man, but because SHE is so great she just being there changed him INTO a great man, so she can not have to show appreciation, because in her mind he didn't do anything, SHE did everything HE did.
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Here's their main problem, we men that can and do all that, I look at women who can't as kinda losers who can't keep up, because I have 6 sisters, all of them can change tires, some of them have built houses with their husbands, they're all in stable long term relationships, and half have self made businesses. And they can all shoot very well, and gut their deer faster than me lol, so when I see women who can't do all that it's disappointing.
When you're surrounded by capable people, incapable people kind of start to disgust you, like how are you making it?
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I think of it like this, I could go to a jewelry store for MY wedding ring as a man and spend lets say $500 on a silver band (I hate gold, yellow is ick to me).
OR I could make it mean something, take a trip out to visit my sister in Arizona, hike the desert until I find an abandoned old mine, scale my way in, extract some silver I have smelted into the ring I want, THAT MEANS SOMETHING.
THAT is a STORY that adds value. THAT is a conversation to have. Nice wedding band man, where did you get it? FUNNY STORY THAT, so, it starts with...
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It causes problems, I've seen it first hand, because to ME as a midwestern 40s white guy, 'fucin' with you' means I HATE you and I'm trying to find any way to make your life hell, I'm fucking with you, you douchebag.
It's crazy to me it would mean being with someone. Like taking the piss meaning a joke, what? If I say I don't with with them, it means I ignore them, avoid them entirely. Usage, "The local police, nah, I don't f with them AT ALL." means I see them I be somewhere else.
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I've had these debates, the longer she makes a man wait, to men, that means the LESS she likes us. She wants you in bed immediately, it means she REALLY likes you.
They see it the opposite, I hate this guy, lets bang immediately and it means nothing (to her). Then later, oh I like this one, so lets go slow.
I've been in that situation, wow, she wanted to go to bed on the first date, finally one that really likes me. Lol. She liked me so much in the 3 following days I waited to say hey I had a great time and lets be a couple because I liked her too, turns out she'd gotten with 3 other men in that time, because "it's JUST sex" she said.
Not to ME, lol.
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It's true, I've long thought there's no reason to get angry at the guy your woman cheats with, because SHE LIED TO HIM TOO TO GET HIM IN BED. I can't blame him for her treachery.
The only 'serious' relationship I've ever had ended at 3 years with her cheating with a guy she met at a party, and left me for him because 'he was a friend to her'. #monkeybranching
Fast forward 15 years, they got married, had like 3 kids (one she named after me LMAO), and now they're breaking up because she wants an 'open marriage'.
LULZ. And yes, she matched with me on Tinder recently, nooooooo.
The real hilarity is he's a really nice guy, we even turn out to work in the same field.
I've never blamed him, why would I?
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TTF is CORRECT, I won't speak for all men, but for myself, I REMEMBER how I was treated when I was younger, and 300lbs, and looked terrible, and now when people I knew all that time see coming-up-on-6-pack 170lbs me and tell me how great I look, how they see me running all the time, how proud of me they are, I'm almost disgusted, because I think "Thanks and all but if you really cared you'd have grabbed me by the ears years before and said you're a fat fuck, you're killing yourself, be a man, fix your bullshit and get in shape if not for you for your family and people you care about". No, it took ME doing that, not anyone around me, and I upset people when I tell them that, usually because I tell them I'm going to do what I wanted done for me, for you, you're a fat fuck, start running, hit the gym, find something, anything to live for and improve for and DO IT. You're worth it, and I think you're worth it enough to tell you that.
You can't lie to me and tell me this happy/healthy at any size crap because I've been supersized and I was not happy. I'm still not all that happy, but now I'm not all that happy while having fun doing 10k runs, pullups every day, and deadlifting double my bodyweight lol.
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I had a friend, she was a stay at home mom, her husband traveled for work climbing communication towers.
They had a somewhat open relationship. One night, her and her friend and I were hanging out, things led to things, I banged her friend in front of her, they both participated. Then she wanted her turn, I'm not all that attracted to her so I turned her down.
You can see my mistake.
Next time I came by I was met at the door by her husband who I was good friends with.
He told me I'd offended her, and she never wanted me around again.
I asked him straight up, "Are you telling me that because I wouldn't bang your wife while you were out of town, I'm kicked out of the house?"
He replied "Yep, that's exactly what's happening, and you really pissed her off."
Found out after that the reason it pissed her off is I was the ONLY young guy around who did say no to her easy lay and that bothered her.
Weirdos.
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People give average a bad rap, but being just as good as about half the 8 billion human population is pretty damn impressive actually.
The global all time average for human males running 5 kilometers is 30 minutes. If you can run a 5k, 3.2 miles, in 30 minutes, you're dead center of the bell curve average among ALL human males.
That's pretty damn impressive really, at just 10 minutes a mile x 3 you're out running billions of other men.
And as far as athletes that's SLOW.
Last 5k I ran I finished dead even 30 minutes, perfectly average, and that's was overall third place, and I was arms length from 2nd and first.
While we waited at the finish line for the women who take 50 minutes, one of the organizers friends who is a college competition distance runner, left to run the course...he ran the 5k in 17 minutes with no warmup. That's what's possible above average.
The fastest women btw ran a 42 minute time, and she was a high school track competitor lol.
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I can speculate from my perspective, we want a feminine, conservative, modest women TO EVERYONE ELSE. We want you to be another one of our friends who also can't keep their hands off of us to US, in private.
So many women today are the opposite. They act modest to their partner, then are giving attention to other men to inspire jealousy/competition in their man for manipulation. I see it daily. I've seen it happen to me, she has some problem or concern and she'll ask family, friends, strangers, ANYONE but the man she loves, and it should be the OPPOSITE. It's all about respect.
When I've been in relationships, that's when I'd get ALL the attention from other women, trying to steal me. It's sickening. What's more sickening is the disgust you see in those women when you shoot them down because you refuse to cheat. Women don't do that, it seems, they get attention from outside men, it's flattering and they follow it. Not saying you'd do that, but the option even being there makes it hard to swallow.
My main dealbreaker is "Does she want kids? No? Then what's the point, this relationship would go nowhere, not wasting my time, I want a family." I'm goal oriented, and so many are NOT today.
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YEAH BUT SHE DESERVES him working his dick into the dirt 115 hours a week, at least, how else is he going to IMPROVE FOR HER.
LOL.
It always makes me laugh, women don't know what NET WORTH is. I know women making 6 figures DEAD BROKE, and I know men making $36K an year that could literally put a million cash on a table today. I am that man.
I work full time mostly as a hobby, and I'm a department head so I get to manage stuff, but I could retire today at 40 and have like 4 lifetimes of coasting. I inherited.
But to women I'm broke because I only make $36k. But I'm debt free, student loan free, cars, trucks, motorcycles, boats, own my house and farm free and clear, but none of that is FLASHY.
They'd rather you spent $250k on a chain than a house.
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Even harder and more annoying as a childless bachelor is people maneuvering to take my disposable TIME.
I can't count the times I've heard I should be doing something someone says I should just because 'well you're single with no kids, you have the time. We can't do that, we have our kids'.
It's why I was volunteered to take care of my elderly dad out of all my siblings, I just have a career, my siblings have marriages and kids so they're too busy.
I've had arguments with people over meetings at an organization I volunteer for, I had to take time off work to fill in for another man, and he tried to play it off as my missing work was not a big deal because HE had to watch his kid...he did NOT like me telling him I didn't care about his kid, my career is my kid, why do I have to neglect my 'kid' to benefit yours? That was YOUR choice, he's a 4x divorced brah lol.
I can make more money, I can't make more time, so stop trying to spend it for me, people.
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She has to gauge romantic interest over 5 dates?
Women, take heed, I don't speak for all men, but as a man, if I come approach you, know that already means 100% I want you, I want to be with you, I'm coming for you. At that point it is 100% up to you if you get me or not. I'm interested, otherwise I would not be there, talking to you!
If you open your mouth and say some dumb shit, well now that 100% interested health bar might start taking hits, you might even make some move that makes the guy go whoa, I was wrong, egress, escape!
But, this is NOT hard to grasp, if he's THERE, he's in, and it's YOUR show to f up at that point.
If I'm not into you, you won't need to think about it, because he won't even be around anymore.
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I dated this hot blonde in college, and she showed up to my door first date and I was like "Ew, dafuq are you wearing?"
She had on a brunette wig "because she thought it made her lok like this other girl she thought I liked".
I tell her what, that skank, if I wanted her she'd be her instead of you, your blonde hair is what I like the most about you, take it off!
Then we drank, watched Eurotrip, and after she called her BF to get permission we hooked up. Lol. Weirdos.
Then by Monday I discovered I was the Friday and guy, two others were the other weekend night guys, and I icked out of there.
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Second video, friend of mine at work is going through something like that but got a big win recently.
His long time not-wife partner and him had an argument, he broke some dishes in the house he solely owns...she filed a police report for harassment, took their FOUR kids, put them in the van he owns, and fled from the Midwest to her parents on the west coast, then got a restraining order blocking him from his house.
His attorney got that changed since she's gone, so he's back in the house, and a judge ruled the kids have to go to school, and since they have not lived where they went long enough to get them enrolled there, boom, kids had to be returned to him, they're back now.
They're few and far between but have hope, occasionally there is family justice in the family justice system.
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ALSO, the same people who go sit in their car and cry and wail and screech to TikTok, if you sat them down and legitimately, genuinely asked them if they had problems, should we talk about it, lets work through things, NOPE, no, I'm FINE I don't need to talk to anyone, life is perfect I'm a 10 slay girlboss.
If it was a real problem you'd want to deal with it. As a man I WANT to do therapy, I think it would help me, so I look for a therapist, NO MEN ANYWHERE. I'd have to drive 90 minutes one way to get a male therapist I think I'd relate to better, because my issues are with women...if I wanted a woman therapist, there's a dozen in walking distance. That profession has changed entirely to women, there is no 'male space'.
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Hell, even not getting married doesn't always work. I have a coworker going through an ordeal right now, got in an argument with his 'old lady', they've been together 15 years and have 4 children, and she decided to call the police, claim 'harassment', get a protective order, quit her job, and took the kids from Missouri to Idaho to stay with her parents. He had to get an attorney to get back into his own vacant house, owned solely in his name, because the protective order listed the house as a prohibited place. Thousands of dollars just to get back into his own house after she fled across the country, insanity.
Two of their children are severely autistic, so this level of disruption has to be catastrophic for them. Sad.
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@GenericUserName443 sigh, fuck, men have It terrible, NON MEN MOST AFFECTED.
This victim good Olympics shit has to stop. All it does is delegitimitze people's anguish.
It's like telling a homeless person no, I'm not going to feed you, and another thing, you should feel fortunate to be here and hungry and not hungry in India or subsaharan Africa, in fact you're living like a king!
Sure trans people and purple hobbits and martians all have problems too, and are they worse? Maybe, but who gives a F, we're talking about us, not them. Their pain is THEIR conversation, for that time.
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If I'm out and about, I'm on a mission usually. I'm in the store, the coffee shop, I'm under the gun, I'm in a hurry, where's the stuff I need, hurry up with my damn coffee, chick, WAIT who is this woman trying to talk to me, I'M BUSY.
Ok now I have some free time, not a woman within 100 miles lol. It's like people don't have things going on in their lives.
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That makes sense to us men, because we (at least I did) grew up where if you even THOUGHT about another woman, your GF was BYEEEEEEEEE! On to the next.
But for women it's like so what I cheated, I still want YOUUUUUUU baby (spreads legs).
When that doesn't work, when consequences happen, they can't even conceive what's happening.
NO? What does that mean, is that English? Never heard that before, and damn sure not from a MAN, lol.
I tell men all the time, the sexiest thing you can tell a woman is NO. They're insane, they don't take it as a command, they take it as a CHALLENGE.
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Will helping women get me laid?
Then why do it?
If more people would ask this simple, accurate question, no one would be asking dumb questions.
So many things can be answered that way, does it get me laid, no? Then why the F would I?
Oh, it does get me laid, lets do THAT. Oh, that is terrible and nasty and mean, oh well, if they make me have to be terrible and mean and nasty to get laid, I'll do it, but I wish they didn't make it that way.
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Here's the biggest problem:
As horrible as she is, she no doubt has a retinue, a queue, an entourage, a whole solar system of orbiters after her ratchet snatch.
It's the conundrum we also see with wealth: you ever see someone making tons of money, getting success, adoration, and you see they're a horrible person, a real POS, and you wonder what am I doing wrong staying a good person but I'm broke.
It's disheartening to be a guy who can't get female attention with a spotlight and pile of bait, while nasty chicks like this will never want for a f buddy or boyfriend, she'll have her pick.
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@eyemunchained8968 unofficially though, were I him and found out my kids were not mine, HEY LOOK I JUST found hundreds of K to hire ruthless attorneys to wreck her in any way possible.
He's acting pretty passive because he BELIEVES those kids are his, but I bet that would change if they were proven NOT, regardless of the law, the court can't make a father care, believe me.
At that point I'd be like "Child support is $50k a year, my legal fees fighting that support are $100k but also are punishing her, WORTH IT, in fact hire another firm, throw this extra stack of hundos on the fire"
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My parents were married 59 years, and that whole time had a single checking account, and every month they sat down and did bills together and did their 'books' where they tracked each other's money in the check book, to the penny. She had her money, he had his, BUT until all expenses were fully paid they didn't pay themselves at all. If the bills and expenses left over nothing, they did with nothing. Now she's gone, I'm running the house for my 84 year old dad and it drives him crazy that I don't do that, I have everything on autopay and paid way in advance, it's all on autopilot. He's like how much money do I have, and I'm like enough...wait for what?
I want to buy thing, it's almost $500...dad you had $30k in the bank last month, you just got paid again this month, don't worry about it. Me, I'm the type that's like do I have more in the bank than I anticipate spending, ok then really what does the number matter?
I can imagine someone like Elon feeling that way, I want to buy Twitter, can I afford it? Oh I can afford to buy 3 twitters, ok so what the worry, add to cart, checkout. Why stress?
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If she's staying at home, not working, And child free, she better be earning at least $47k a year working from home, otherwise what is she doing? Cooking cleaning laundry takes an hour a day, I know, I'm a single man living alone working 50 hours a week, and my stuff is handled, plus a 100 acre working farm. If I can do that with no help, what's she contributing if not my kids? Why get married? Just a thing to do, lol?
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In my state you can't even play Bingo if you've ever had a felony, even an expunged one. Those are the state rules.
On the other hand, my state also doesn't even recognize federal felonies as anything, you can buy a gun here no problem as long as it's not a state-adjudicated felony.
Also if you are convicted of a felony, LIFETIME BAN on running for state office, zero leeway, no recourse.
SO, DON'T commit or get convicted of felonies, they basically make you a lifetime second-class citizen, and we just passed new laws setting a new lower level of felony, we have Class A, the worst like murder, down to Class F, SIX different classes of felony they can try you for, hoorya!
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The financial benefits of marriage is not to SPLIT the bills, it's to CUT THE BILLS IN HALF.
I have a house, those expenses, and an income. She has a house, those expenses, and her income.
Were we to marry, I'd expect our household work and bills to cut in half because we live in ONE house, and the work gets half as hard because now there's two people doing it, on two incomes.
The point of marriage is not to spend MORE MONEY, it's to spend LESS so you have resources and stability for the PURPOSE of marriage, YOUR CHILDREN.
These chicks treat marriage like I would my career, I'm unhappy, I hate my job, I think I'm going to divorce my employer and start over lulz. Oh noes life is expensive and I gave up my income, how did this HAPPEN TO ME through no fault of my own even though I choose it?
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"Sorry, I'm poly saturated right now, so..."
"Oh, oh geez, thanks for being so up front about that. I don't date crazy wackadoos....also, could you take a different dog walk route from now on, we're trying to keep this a nice neighborhood and we don't need bigamists walking around here, it's illegal ya know..."
"I'm not a bigamist, we're polyamorist!"
"Yeah , whatever, just keep it behind closed doors, this is a nice neighborhood, there are FAMILIES here."
It's a lot funnier if you read those responses in Bill Burr's voice.
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