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Comments by "Bruce Tucker" (@brucetucker4847) on "Why The Hobbit Trilogy Failed To Equal Lord Of The Rings" video.
Yes, and he's also more of a force of nature than a character. The important characters are the dwarves, men, and elves, and Bilbo. The novel doesn't really have a villain in the traditional sense, that's not its point.
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@jlcdavenport6268 And then laughs at all of them slogging through it. Legolas could be kind of a dick in the novel, which made him more believable as a character. But one thing the movies got wrong is that elves, or at least wood-elves, could NOT hold their liquor. Bilbo sprung the dwarves from the elvenking's prison by getting the elf guards drunk.
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@varraionvishjlia2651 CT died in the meantime, whoever controls the estate now doesn't really give a crap. I love the LotR movies, but there were some regrettable decisions that really changed the focus and lost a lot of the theme of the novel - the most notable being leaving out the Scouring of the Shire. Among other issues, that radically curtailed the character arcs of Merry and Pippin, and it left the environmental themes that were so central to the novel separated from human societies and behavior (there were lots of scenes in the movies of Saruman and the orcs despoiling nature, but when we see in the novel that men and even hobbits have been doing the same in the Shire it hits much harder).
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That's because they understood the limits of CGI and mostly didn't try to push them. There are a LOT more practical effects than CGI in those movies, more than many people think.
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@5h0rgunn45 The goblin songs are the best, especially "Fifteen Birds in Five Fir Trees".
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The succession of fades to black was probably a mistake.
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@kellerblair2952 But they ruined the goblin songs, which were awesome in the Rankin/Bass cartoon. "HO HO, MY LAD!"
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That's the thing, even seeing it in the theater it reminded me way too much of a theme park ride.
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It is written at what today would be more of a young adult level.
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That was how I discovered Tolkien, I was 11 years old and saw it in the theater when it came out. It was a pretty flawed adaptation but still much better than any other fantasy movie from that era. I saw it right after Christmas and had to beg and beg for my parents to give me the books so I could find out how the story ended!
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There were lots of songs in the book. The Rankin-Bass animated special did a much better job of setting them to music.
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@DanielsY2J To me it's at worst about like John Wick or Jason Bourne, not a world with completely different laws of physics that characters can break at will like the Matrix or any kung fu or superhero movie.
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@georgemorley1029 One would have been better. There's just not that much story there, and everything added for the movies only detracted.
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It depends entirely on who does it. Someone like Christopher Nolan or maybe Anthony Minghella (were he still alive) could make a fantastic movie of the Children of Hurin. However it might disappoint LotR movie fans who aren't expecting anything so dark and serious.
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Worse than Beastmaster. 'Nuff said.
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He's not meant to be interesting, just an obstacle for the characters to overcome. The Hobbit (novel) doesn't really have a villain, its moral themes are about the decisions the protagonists and the people they interact with make.
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