Comments by "doveton sturdee" (@dovetonsturdee7033) on "Dr David Starkey reacts to Keir Starmer's criticism of the royals in the Caribbean" video.

Starmer always comes across as a slightly sad figure. As a very wealthy lawyer, he is seen by his union paymasters as the acceptable face of Labour, but he is tightly controlled, as his pathetic attempts to rid himself of Rayner have demonstrated. Once his usefulness is ended, off he will go to the House of Lords, with all his equally wealthy chums.
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He is seen as the acceptable face of his party by the union barons who control it, and dictate what he may or may not say.
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You don't seem to know much about Starkey's upbringing. Allow me to educate you :- He is the only child of Robert Starkey and Elsie Lyon, Quakers who had married 10 years previously in Bolton, at a Friends meeting house. His father, the son of a cotton spinner, was a foreman in a washing-machine factory, while his mother followed in her father's footsteps and became a cotton weaver and later a cleaner. They were both born in Oldham and moved to Kendal in the 1930's during the Great Depression. He was raised in an austere and frugal environment of near-poverty, with his parents often unemployed for long periods of time; an environment which, he later stated, taught him "the value of money." I respectfully submit that he does have some knowledge of the 'working class' as you rather patronisingly describe them. He is, in fact, a working class man who has achieved much. Precisely the sort of person the Islington thinkers of the Labour party truly detest.
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@petercolledge2236 I see. In your world, having an opinion which might not accord with your own is 'patronising' you. I do not believe that anything in my previous posts can be described in such a manner. Your own disparaging comments about Professor Starkey, however, do come into such a category.
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But that is what these people do. Remember Kinnock, who was going to abolish the Lords. He then accepted a peerage, on the grounds that he was going to fight against the system from the inside, and he then fought so effectively that he engineered a peerage for Mrs. Kinnock as well. There are few things that good socialists lust after more than ermine gowns and a seat in the Lords.
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@petercolledge2236 'I genuinely thought I had made it clear that his upbringing was bog standard working class.' If you thought that, then clearly you don't read your own posts.
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@petercolledge2236 'He is generally driven by petty vindictiveness and showing-boating whenever he has a media platform.' 'He wouldn't so much as stop and glance if one was on fire.'
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@petercolledge2236 Fair enough. Good manners are rare on the ground these days, and it is nice to encounter them. Cheers!
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