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Good idea. Look up the facts, instead of the invented conspiracy nonsense.
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Do you thing God is so vindictive, not to say ill-informed? No one from H & W or White Star's management made such a claim.
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There was no fire in the 'front' of the ship, despite Mr. Molony's questionable interpretation of a smudge on a photograph. The financiers who drowned were Astor, Guggnheim, & Straus. The first two had never expressed opinions about the Fed., whilst the third was a supporter. His views may be read in two articles in the NYT from October, 1911. You have been misled by a switcher video which has no basis in fact.
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Really? I am sure you have convincing evidence? What? You don't? how sad.
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Actually around 1,500. Titanic was only about half-full.
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@bobbyhernandez9558 No, but perhaps their superior knowledge?
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No, it didn't. It sank because it collided with an iceberg.
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@evictioncarpentry2628 Nonsense. It was not an insurance scam. White Star lost £500,000 from it, at 1912 monetary values. Nor was there any 'rescue ship.' There was a fully laden freighter, Californian, nearby, whose officers saw Titanic's flares and alarted the captain, who chose neither to investigate nor even to ask. If Captain Lord was part of your imaginary plot, and knew what he was supposed to do, why didn't he do it?
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We certainly do know that the Federal Reserve was not involved. That was simply a fairy story invented in the 1990s.,
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@LeodisTrainSpotter Ah, but the conspiracists will soon be claiming that the survivors were either bribed or threatened.
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You really shouldn't believe everything (or, indeed anything!) you see in Titanic conspiracy videos. Astor and Guggenheim had never expressed their views about the Fed., whilst Straus had spoken in favour. Their allaged opposition is a myth, invented in the mid 1990s. Seriously, if you seek to erase business or political opponents, is sinking a ship on which they might be travelling, in the hope that they might possibly drown, the best way to do it?
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@rbsk999 An unmanned ROV won't be stealing anything.
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There certainly is technology capable of reaching Titanic and, indeed, going much deeper. The wreck of the USS Samuel B. Roberts, a WW2 destroyer escort, was inspected in June 2022 in the Pacific, at a depth of over 22,600 feet, or almost 7,000 metres. However, it has to be the right technology.
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Then why did you bother commenting?
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@bobbyhernandez9558 The world does. For over 100 years.
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Feel free to fund yout own expedition.
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You mean the myth invented in the 1990s, about two people who had never commented, and a third who supported the Federal Reserve? That 'unknown story?'
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Barely getting access to what?
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Olympic had been fully repaired and had been back at sea since late November, 1911, when Titanic was five months short of completion. Insurance money? You mean £500,000 White Star lost, when the Company received £1 million for a ship which cost £1.5 million to build? Morgan did not cancel. There is a newspaper article from March, 1912, confirming his intention to attend an event at St. Mark's in Venice. He was J. P. Morgan, not Doctor Who.
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You cared enough to comment.
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Do you unquestionably believe every myth you come across? Smith never said anything of the sort.
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What 'things' have been kept fro normal people?
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Of course it is. Why do you insist in believing evidence-free videos about a myth invented in the mid 1990s?
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Fascinating how every new Titanic video brings the crazies out in droves, isn't it?
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I assume you have a source for that? Titanic was a British registered ship, by the way.
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It crushed the stern section. The bow was full of water when it sank.
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Why? Where do you think it is?
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Actually, far more on 'that ship' were working class people.
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@YEAR-1-RELICS No, you didn't. White Star offered cheap passages to large numbers of working class people. It was their bread & butter. The fares for a small number of 2nd & 1st class passengers were the icing on the cake. Put simply, 324 First, 285 second, & 709 third. Tickets were £7 for adults, and £3 for children.
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@YEAR-1-RELICS Actually, seven pounds. In 1912 it was about two-three weeks wages for a labourer in Britain. It was certainly manageable for people determimed to make the trip.
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@YEAR-1-RELICS I thought the topic was the price for third class passengers? Of course the wealthy paid a very highn price, just as they do today. White Star, like Cunard, made their bread and butter from steerage passengers, and ensured that the price was manageable, albeit with some effort. It easy enough to check, simply by referring to the occupations of the people on the passenger list.
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@YEAR-1-RELICS Yes, it is, but many poor people were willing to make sacrifices in order to achieve what they hoped would be a better life for themselves and their children. Simply look at the manifests of any of the Atlantic liners of the time.
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@YEAR-1-RELICS Nonsense. People then and now make sacrifices in order to achieve something. I know a few families who have not taken holidays in order to fund mortgages, or to pay for the education of their children.
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Who do you wrongly believe actually made such a claim?
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@armedprophet3321 The claim that the comment had been made only, oddly, arose after the sinking. Prior to that, the Olympics had been described as 'practically unsinkable.' A small circulation engineering periodical did manage to miss out the word 'practically' in an article about them, but no-one from H & W, nor White Star, made such a claim. You seem to be basing your opinion on an article by a journalist. To believe that 'it was in the newspapers so it must be true,' is not a good idea.
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No.
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Yes, we do. Titanic sank.
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Except, of course, that Astor & Guggenheim had never expressed their opinions about the Fed., whilst Straus was a supporter and had spoken in favour. Any false claims to the contrary were invented in the mid 1990s.
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Why do you think there is any comparison between the two?
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As no-one was locked up in the ship, good luck with your search.
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You will need to wait a long time. No one has yet managed to prove any such allegation in the last 110 years.
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@FerrariLamborghini24 'ur saying it’s really the titanic? Its not the titanic and prove it with info I hve proof this is the Olympic' I asked you four days prior to this to show us this 'evidence.' Do you recall this? 'As someone who really has researched Titanic, I would be grateful if you would present your evidence to show me what I have missed.' I am still waiting, with eager anticipation.
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Would you say the same of Olympic? A successful liner for 23 years?
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No, they weren't.
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@zachwellentin5557 Interestingly, almost as many people cancelled their bookings for Titanic's maiden voyage as had cancelled for Olympic's the previous year. What does thast prove? Also there were three leading financiers aboard Titanic, Guggenheim, Astor, and Straus. Despite what you have swallowed whole from certain videos, the first two had never expressed their opinions about the Federal Reserve, whilst the third was in favour of it, as he demonstrated in a speech in October, 1911, recorded in two separate articles in the New York Times which may still be read. The idea of their opposition to the Fed. first appeared in the mid 1990s. It is nothing more than a myth.
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Have you mentioned that to the captain of the Costa Concordia?
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Actually, this is not true. No member of senior management from White Star or Harland & Wolff ever made such a comment.
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@JP-jb5di No he didn't. Perhaps you might suggest a source for your claim?
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Don't be an idiot.
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Death would, perhaps thankfully, have been instantaneous.
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