Comments by "doveton sturdee" (@dovetonsturdee7033) on "UK farmers will react with "fury" after government meeting, says union boss" video.

  1. I wonder how much will satill survive in four years time.
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  2. Look what Stalin did to the Kulaks in the Soviet Union in the early 1930s. Possibly where the Dear Leader got the idea from?
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  3. 'everyone else pays.' Really? Do you seriously think that everyone pays inheritance tax?
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  4. 'Nurses pay inheritance tax on their homes.' Only if their homes are worth £325,000 or more. 'Am I wrong for thinking that the inheritance tax changes encourage more smaller family owned farms. Yes, you are. Profits on farming are marginal at best, and reducing the size of farms will make a large number unviable.'
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  5.  @billygoat9006  You could, of course, look at the Gov.UK report for yourself, as I did.
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  6.  @billygoat9006  I'm glad that you are sure. You could, of course, have simply looked at the GOV.UK site, under 'Farm Business Income By Type of Farm in England 2023/4.' DEFRA have produced a chart or two which shows how income has declined since 2021/2. I am not, by the way, a farmer myself.
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  7. With this government, it may be the only way to get their attention.
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  8. We all pay Inheritance Tax? Don't be silly. What planet do you inhabit?
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  9.  @jonjayjay  Perhaps, like Rachel, you cannot grasp the concept of 'asset rich but cash poor?' Put simply, would you expect a manufacturing company to sell off the machine tools it uses to meet such a tax? The land the farmers have has little value simply as farm land. It becomes valuable only when used for something else. If a farmer needs to sell off the land in order to pay inheritance tax, then the farm is at best reduced in size, or at worst rendered unviable. I assume you wish to carry on eating, do you? Have you ever asked yourself where those things you buy in your local supermaket come from?
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  10. So, you believe that all businesses must be viable, or should go to the wall? Goodbye to rail services, rural transport services, most if not all utility companies and, indeed, the NHS, then, to name but a few.
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  11.  @SamanthaHeath-h9t  Quite right. There are a lot of simpletons on here who don't actually seem to understand what inheritance tax actually is.
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  12. 'Farmers buy new £600k tractors (tax deductable).' Whereever did you get that from? Moreover, how would you suggest that farmers work their land? With medieval mould board ploughs drawn by Oxen or Clydesdales?
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  13. 'Starmer can't call them all far right on a whim either.' Of course he can. In his mind, anyone who denies his infallibility is, ipso facto, a right wing extremist.
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  14. How about you return to earth occasionally?
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  15. @flickthenick But what if the only way to pay your taxes was to close down your company and sell it off?
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  16. @flickthenick Because most British people have developed a perverse desire to eat something called 'food' on a regular basis. You really cannot be as simple as you pretend, surely?
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  17. They do pay their taxes. Are you really incapable of grasping the difference between normal taxation and inheritance tax?
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  18.  @colinyates7485  Perhaps you don't understand the concept of 'land rich but cash poor?' Seemingly not. Put very simply, most farmers affected by this tax will be obliged to sell off land in order to pay the bill. At best, their farms will be significantly reduced in size. At worst, the remaining farm will become unviable. I assume that you actually do wish to continue to eat? 'I bet most of them voted for Brexit.' I presume you mean that anyone who so voted must be punished? That seems to be what you really mean.
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  19. Farmers, like the rest of us, pay their taxes. Surely you are not too stupid to understand the difference between normal taxation and inheritance tax. By the way, farmers are not receiving subsidies out of government generosity, but because the population of Britain has developed a liking for eating. Even you, probably.
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  20. They do pay their taxes, you fool. Their land is worthless until/unless it is sold. Once that happens, there will be one less farm. I assume that you do actually eat something called 'food' occaasionally?
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  21. They already do. Are you so dense or so indoctrinated that you cannot grasp the difference between taxation and inheritance tax?
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  22. @flickthenick It isn't a tax dodge. The land the farmers own is worth little unless/until the farmer sells up in order to meet inheritance tax demands. At which point, the farm becomes an unviable business, and a little less food is produced. I assume even a loyal comrade like you eats from time to time. Read about what Genial Joe Stalin did to the Kulaks in the 1930s, and the effect it had on the Soviet Union. Is that what you really want?
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  23. @flickthenick 'sure for actual farmers then maybe.' Isn't it the real effect on actual farmers that this debate is all about?
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  24. @flickthenick Oh dear. Exactly the sort of childish non-answer I had rather expected.
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  25. @flickthenick You could always try claiming that your garden is really a farm. I wonder how far that would get you with the local council? Did you attend the same Economics course as Rachel Reeves?
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  26. @flickthenick You are going round in circles, you fool. They already do pay their taxes. I bet you would have absolutely loved Genial Uncle Joe's treatment of the Kulaks in the 1930s. So what if a few million did starve?
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  27. Farmers pay their taxes. Are you really gormless enough not to know that?
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