Comments by "doveton sturdee" (@dovetonsturdee7033) on "Which Were the WORST Fighting Ships of WW2? - How Fatal Design Flaws DOOMED Them" video.

A modified 'Leander.' As these three ships had been transferred to the Royal Australian Navy before 1939, she may well be HMAS Sydney.
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@darin271 I don't need to check my history. The raid into the Indian Ocean was intended to cover a large troop convoy out of Singapore. Actually, a small carrier without aircraft, and two heavy cruisers were sunk, as well as a number of smaller craft. In point of fact, Somerville was actually searching for the Japanese force in order to carry out a night attack using his radar-equipped Albacores, something for which the Japanese had neither any means of defence, nor any experience. As the British knew that there were no transports in the Japanese force, they also knew that it was a raid, not an invasion, and chose not to challenge it with the weaker forces at their disposal at the time. As I understand it, Coral Sea was a strategic defeat for the Japanese, in that it resulted in the cancellation of the landing near Port Moresby. Moreover, wasn't Shokaku damaged and sent back to Japan for repairs, thus not being available for Midway, whilst Zuikaku had lost a considerable number of aircraft and aircrew, and was not considered for use at Midway either? I suggest that 'victory' is defined by which side achieves the strategic goals it sought, rather than by simply counting the dead. On that basis, Stalingrad would have been seen as a crushing German victory.
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@alexanderd8740 I haven't said anything of the sort. Only that a one way trip with no hope of landing back is not, at least in my opinion, really carrier aviation. Doolittle's was an attack from a carrier, as was that from Furious, but they were hardly relevant to the evolution of carrier warfare, the first principle of which is that the aircraft should be able to operate from the carrier. Being able to take off, but not land back, does not meet that principle. The first proper aircraft carrier was HMS Argus, commissioned in September 1918. The Royal Navy had previously operated scouts from platforms on battleship turrets, on cruisers, or even from towed barges. Would you consider this carrier aviation?
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@alexanderd8740 Fair enough. We are all entitled to opinions. I would point out that the message to which you replied did not refer to 'carrier attacks' but to 'carrier warfare.'
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@darin271 Would it be impertinent to point out that almost the first time the Japanese carrier force encountered a prepared, though outnumbered, enemy, it suffered a crushing defeat?
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@silverhost9782 Certainly not a credible source, that's for sure. Perhaps he isn't aware of the time Nelson, for one, spent in the Mediterranean, and subsequently with the East Indies Fleet? Or he is unaware that, Nelson spent from 11 June, 1944 to 18 June, 1944, on bombardment duties, and was scheduled to return after re-ammunitioning at Portsmouth had she not been mined? Rodney was used for bombardment duties from 7 June until 10 June, and then, after re-ammunitioning at Milford Haven, from 18 June until 9 July, during which period she had fired 519 x 16in, 454 x 6in and 1200 x 4.7in.
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@silverhost9782 Quite agree. What the Nelsons did manage to achieve on a displacement of 35,000 tons was remarkable. Just imagine what the G3 battlecruisers might have been!
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@alexanderd8740 That doesn't really have any relevance, as the attacking aircraft were unable to land back aboard, but were intended to ditch in the sea.
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The official term applied at the time, I believe, was 'large light cruiser'.
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@norbertwerner6926 You aren't aware of Prince of Wales' secondary battery of 16 x 5.25 inch guns, eight on each side, then? Or of how weakly armoured Prinz Eugen was? Or of how close Eugen would need to approach to have much chance of hitting? 'Would haves' don't actually count. Certainly, Eugen almost sank a light cruiser by ramming in the Baltic. A German one, by the way! By the way, the US weren't hunting down any German oilers in the Atlantic in May or June, 1941, and operations by Scharnhorst and Gneisenau after 'Berlin' were conspicuous by their absence.
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@norbertwerner6926 None of Prince of Wales' 5.25s were put out of action, in point of fact. Indeed, the mechanical problems of her 14 inch guns were quickly rectified. Perhaps you should look up the term 'almost' in my earlier post? Moreover, my reference was to Eugen's 'achievements' in the Baltic. Didn't you realize that? The German supply ships in the Atlantic were rounded up because the British had broken naval Enigma after HMS Bulldog captured a machine and code book from U110 on 9 May, 1941. US forces landed in Iceland in July, 1941, well after the supply ships had been dealt with. Surely you knew that?
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