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Comments by "doveton sturdee" (@dovetonsturdee7033) on "Britain's First Naval Defeat in 100 years - Coronel 1914" video.
@gwine9087 Why? He suggested the Gallipoli operation, but he neither authorised it nor planned it. Churchill was a convenient scapegoat, but the the bulk of the blame belonged to Herbert Asquith, followed by the flawed planning of the Admirals & Generals in charge.
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@gwine9087 You do know that Churchill didn't plan Gallipoli, I suppose? Nor did he authorise it. Asquith authorised it, and the flawed plan was devised by Admirals & Generals, appointed by their own branches of the military.
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Because you are probably determined to blame him for everything since the Black Death.
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'A gallant & honourable foe.' Which was exactly how he himself described Cradock at a dinner in Valparaiso after Coronel.
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@gwine9087 Churchill proposed it as a means of using global sea power to remove Turkey from the war, as an alternative to the impasse on the Western Front. But he had no hand in the planning, and Herbert Asquith and his advisors had every opportunity to say 'no'.
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@RagingBulCorp Well said! The knee-jerk, Parrot like, 'Churchill was an idiot/moron,' etc., comments by people who know little or nothing tend to get a little tedious after a while. It seems that reasoned assessment of Churchill, with examination of his decisions on a rational basis, is no longer permitted, generally by people who cannot forgive him for not surrendering in 1940.
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He probably also caused the War of the League of Augsberg, the Black Death, and the fall of Constantinople in 1453. That was, of course, before he became Jack the Ripper.
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Whereas the German navy swung at anchor in the Jade almost continuously after May, 1916, and had effectively ceased to exist as a surface force after mid 1941.
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No. He acted as Harwood did in 1939. There were no German repair bases anywhere near, so comparatively minor damage to the Spee's fleet would have crippled it. Harwood succeeded, Cradock failed, but both were right to act as they did.
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It would seem that it takes one to know one.
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You should read Bennett's book on Coronel & the Falklands. You probably wouldn't like it though, as his judgments are even-handed, evidently unlike yours.
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@fko079 After WW2 Churchill was not in government for five years. You don't actually know what 'Unthinkable' was, do you? Why do you strange people assume that a politician planned military operations, when planning is the role of the military? Just because you don't like the politician concerned, presumably?
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@fko079 You must have really tried hard to become so ignorant! Clem Attlee became Prime Minister in the General Election of July, 1945. Operation Unthinkable involved two studies carried out by the British Chiefs of Staff at the end of the European war, to determine what action the British could take either to 'impose the Will of the Western Allies' or to resist a Russian offensive intended to overrun the rest of Europe, assuming that American forces were being withdrawn. As these were both Staff Studies, and only ever theoretical, no-one 'ordered' anything.
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@fko079 Exactly. 'Possible future war plans' which were 'never approved or implemented.' Do you think that politicians and the military don't plan for a variety of potential situations? That they just wait around and react to something after it happens?
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@fko079 The relevance of that to anything at all being?
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