Comments by "doveton sturdee" (@dovetonsturdee7033) on "How This Battleship Changed History | The Design of HMS Dreadnought" video.

@NamNguyen-sz4yq Please don't be silly, and make such false claims. When did the Admiralty ever refer to the KGVs, or Vanguard, as 'battlecruisers'
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@harryshuman9637 Would you describe the KGVs as 'battlecruisers' as well? Same armour as Vanguard. Or the Iowas, perhaps? Or Bismarck? Agreed, the original distinction between battleship and battlecruiser had largely disappeared after the appearance of the first battlecruiser/fast battleship hybrid, HMS Hood, but the concept of the roles of the two types was entirely different. Put briefly, a battlecruiser was not expected to fight in the line, against other battleships, but to act as the reconnaissance arm of the Battle Fleet, to drive away enemy scouting cruisers, and to hunt down enemy armoured cruisers. The Falklands being a case in point. No-one, British, American, or German, saw Iowa, KGV, Vanguard, or Bismarck as any anything other than fast battleships.
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@harryshuman9637 The British never had a battlecruiser named Vanguard.
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@Mishn0 The concept of the fast battleship came about earlier than that. Essentially, it was a capital ship capable of greater speed than the standard 21 knots of the Battle Fleet.
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@NamNguyen-sz4yq Not after the mid 1930s, they didn't.
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@NamNguyen-sz4yq It isn't really worth arguing about details, but in March 1933, when the charactistics of the 1937 capital ships were discussed, the CofN submitted a memo to the ACNS which led to the circulation of a memo.which stated that 'The ship will be a replacement of a battleship. Our battlecruisers will not come in for replacement for some years, and before this occurs we will know the trend of foreign naval construction. There will therefore be three fast capital ships available during these years, i.e., 20% of our total numbers, capable of dealing with any foreign capital ship at present in construction or proposed so far as is known.' It isn't worth arguing about, so I will leave it at that.
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At the time of Jutland, she was refitting in Portsmouth, but was regarded as obsolete, and from July 1916 she became flagship of the 3rd Battle Squadron, a force of the more modern pre-dreadnoughts, base on Sheerness. She did, however, return to the Grand Fleet in March, 1918, before paying off in August.
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It has been argued that, had sufficient 12 inch guns been available, the first all big gun Battleship would have been the Japanese 'Satsuma' which might have been armed with 8 twin 12 inch turrets, rather than the actual 2 x twin 12 inch and 6 x twin 10 inch she actually received. Just imagine generations of naval writers, thereafter, referring to 'pre-Satsumas' 'Satsumas' and 'super Satsumas,' or even calling USS Texas the last surviving 'first generation Satsuma.' Really doesn't have the same ring to it as 'Dreadnought' does it?
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