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Having owned two Acuras before, I love the brand for its' performance, reliability and value. Great cars, imo. But Genesis isn't really competing with Japanese "premium" cars. Unlike Japanese brands, all of their vehicles are RWD and generally offer more features. They clearly have Euro brands in mind, except that they're far more reliable. Still, hard to go wrong with either of these fine machines.
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Good review. But not really a fair one. Of course the GV80 is better. It's a more expensive, more luxurious RWD architecture rig. A better matchup would've had the Aviator here.
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This car is nice. But the all new model is coming out this November and it's a quantum leap better than this one. Options will include the all new 2.5T with almost 300hp, AWD, an 8 speed DCT and adaptive suspension. It will blow everything else out of the water in this segment. Can't wait!
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The G70 is actually a proper rwd sport sedan and by most accounts, one of the best handling cars in segment. The TLX is a modified fwd Honda. They're not really the same thing. Both great imo. But not the same flavor.
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@AzaelNYC It's not. And the Acura is actually just a Honda.
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Trolls are sooooo dumb!
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@박동석-u7u I agree Genesis is certainly better. But Acura is definitely a premium brand. Not really a luxury brand. But they're not as expensive as luxury brands either.
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This 8 speed transmission works flawlessly. Maybe you're thinking of the 8 speed DCT? Not the same thing, friend.
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@rahimi4762 This isn't a Hyundai. The RDX however, is a fancy CR-V. That doesn't mean it's bad! But you should get your facts straight.
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MJ..the new Bimmer is an improvement over the current model, but I wouldn't say it looks any more premium than this G70. Only the price is premium.
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Truth...Don't feel too bad. Americans initially had a lot of problems buying Japanese cars too. ' I wouldn't buy a Honda!!" Branding is hard for some people to get over. Judge this car on it's merit and value, and not the Kia badge on the front, and you will see this car is in a class by itself!
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Wrong. The Genesis doesn't share a platform with any Hyundai product, unlike the Acura. In fact it's the only mainstream lux brand that doesn't have any FWD platforms.
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@AAhmad3449 I'm sorry you can't understand the fallacy of your statement. You really don't understand?? Genesis is made by Hyundai group. But you said it's a Hyundai that's been remade to be a Genesis. And that's simply not true. It's not based on any Hyundau model. The RDX however, started out life as a CR-V and became an Acura. It's not the same thing.
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@terranceagostini7198 No, it's not. It's a modified Honda platform. That's why it's fwd.
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My sentiments exactly Stephen!
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@arnoldwilson5377 Whether it's good enough or not is a matter of opinion. My assertion was that the Nautilus isn't a good comparison because it's fwd and a class smaller than the GV80.
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Lots of great cars in this class. But I really love this one!! I just don't understand why they don't use the full digital cluster like they do in other markets. We've had it since 2019 here.
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At this price point, this car has no equal in the world. With any car you want to compare this to, you have to add the expression, "but...". For example the 7 Series? But it's twice the price. Fully loaded 3 Series? Same price, but half the car. I've been in this car and comparable German competitors. The K9 is 90 percent of the car, but less than 50 percent of the price.
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@tejasmurali9986 I agree. You certainly don't buy an Acura if you're interested in the most luxurious offering. But I still think they represent good value.
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@redzoom7857 Yes, true it's my opinion. And it's not that I don't like the 3 Series. I do. But having spent a little time in both of them, the BMW does not feel any more premium than the G70. Design wise, the G70 is at least as good. "The average person" is swayed by the badge on the front and not so much by the car itself. In my opinion, both are great cars, but the Genesis gives you far more for your buck.
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@Yoomaro Exactly!
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@AzaelNYC It's a really nice car, to be sure! Reliable? We'll have to wait and see. You know it's hit and miss with Acura these days. Not like in the past. But again, it is still a modified Accord platform and just can't drive the way the G70 does.
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@blueshark3098 Sure I heard him. But I've also heard about 20 other professional reviewers say the G70 is one of the best handling cars in segment. Nobody says that about the TLX.
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This engine has been in service for 8 years with no major issues. Pretty safe to say they got it figured out.
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Gerald....I understand your point about luxury buyers wanting a "luxury experience". But Kia wants to change that way of thinking. Not everyone wants to pay thousands of dollars more just so they can have a great cappuccino at the dealership. When you buy a German competitor, you are essentially getting raped at the dealer to pay for all that "prestige". It doesn't go into the car.
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@marky2498 Yes, it is. But it's a fwd architecture while the GV80 is a proper rwd architecture. Not at all the same thing.
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@rahimi4762 I can see you copied and pasted this response a lot here Rashaud. Having owned two Acuras before, I actually love the brand as being premium and reliable at a great price. But the Genesis isn't even concerned with Japanese "premium" cars. That's why all of their cars are RWD with real luxury features. They're targeting Europeans, except they're far more reliable.
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For sure! Love the new Lincoln products too! But this fwd Nautilus isn't up to the GV80's level. Should've had the Aviator. Better matchup.
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Pedro This is way better than anything Lexus makes. Car of the year!
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@Audiomainia2310 These are the rumors they're printing in the media here in Korea. The top model will be like a "Stinger Lite". I hope so!
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@RunEmDownTony Yes, we know that now. The K5GT still kicks ass on Toyota and Honda though. And, that's why they have the Stinger. It offers all of those things and the refresh is really quite attractive.
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@AAhmad3449 Yes, that's right. But that's not what you said. You said both are dressed up Hyundai and Honda models. That's wrong. The Acura is. The Genesis isn't. See the difference?
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@brucebrowne5022 "Unique" just means it's not exactly like the Accord chassis. It's still just a really nice Honda.
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@blueshark3098 Yes, agreed. Most people agree the TLX rides better. It's just not as sporty or dynamic as the G70. Both good; just different.
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@Frankguligan256 You're soooo dumb. 🤣
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@calebwany8422 The fact you say that shows you don't really know too much about cars. Sorry bro.
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@calebwany8422 So, you admit you don't really know much about cars!? That's fine, friend. Just maybe don't get upset then, when someone corrects your inaccurate statements.
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@calebwany8422 Enthusiast? Yes! Expert? No. And, again, it's ok that you're not either. But there's a difference between opinion and fact.
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@calebwany8422 Sorry man! I'm just trying to help you from seeming so dense next time.
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Except neither company competes in this segment with a real rwd platform.
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@naveenthemachine Which doesn't compete with this.
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flyfalcons ...that's a very good point Falcons!
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japanwatchconnection ...which part? It's simple economics really. Nobody gives you anything for free. The Germans do charge more based simply on the badge on the car. That is repeated when you go to the shop. Should an oil change at your Benz dealer really be 3 times the price of a Kia dealer?
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Gas prices may never go back that high. There's such a global glut of oil, it could take decades to reduce. Most other developed countries already pay much higher gas prices than the US. So we still have to consider efficiency, and therefore still get great sedans.
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Apples to oranges. Completely different experience. But if you like to drive....you'll probably like the rwd dynamics of the G70.
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@redzoom7857 I was referring to the current gen 3 series. However the new one is not any better quality, but just a more modern take. And in fact, average people can NOT tell the difference unless they see the badge. Numerous studies have been done that prove this. Car lovers; maybe. Average people: nope.
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@rolyreyes5097 That's what they are reporting in the Korean news. It will be released here first.
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@RunEmDownTony Totally agree!
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@AAhmad3449 But your statement is wrong. Genesis vehicles are not dressed up Hyundai models. Acura vehicles are dressed up Hondas. Facts.
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If I were you, and could wait just a little, I'd consider the all new G80 that coming out this year. It's a quantum leap better than the current car.
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