Comments by "Glamdolly" (@glamdolly30) on "The Mirror"
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There really isn't much worse you can do to a person than lock them up - except lock them up with no hope of release, ever. That is Lucy Letby's bleak future, aged just 33 (and she already spent the last 3 years in prison).
Letby had a charmed life, and was the envy of many, before she decided to play God with other people's babies. She was young and healthy, with a well paid, high status professional job she loved, a good salary, a nice house she'd just bought, her own car and a great lifestyle.
She had proud parents who doted on their only child so much, they announced her milestones in the local paper (graduating, turning 21 etc). She still went on holiday with them to Devon every year. Apart from a married, 17-years-older doctor she was infatuated with, there's no evidence the oddly immature Letby had ever had a boyfriend.
When the hospital realised she was likely the cause of the rocketing infant mortality rate, and shifted her sideways to a clerical job, Letby had the cheek to make an official complaint. She arrived at the hearing with her parents - a 26-year-old woman, sitting there like a child while her father read out her grievance letter, and angrily threatened to report the consultants who'd dared suspect his daughter, to the General Medical Council. Unfortunately for Lucy, her protective parents couldn't save her from the consequences of her killing spree.
Letby had a wide circle of friends and enjoyed a great social life, with regular nights out and holidays abroad. Many of those friends still refuse to believe she's guilty - but the truth will dawn on them, along with the guilty verdict.
Letby was so popular, many of her pals had made her Godmother to their children - children she's no longer allowed to have any contact with by law, due to her vile crimes. That role is effectively gone, along with every other pleasure and privilege she once took for granted.
Imagine knowing you will never again leave the UK - that every dream you had to one day get on a plane or boat and see America/Egypt/Venice/Paris wherever, experience glamping, a cruise or see the Northern lights, can now never be.
Imagine knowing you'll never visit your family or friends' homes again. That you'll only ever see your relatives or pals if they come to visit you, inside cold prison walls, among impersonal prison staff and the cold protocols of maximum security that you and your fellow prisoners must forever be guarded by.
You'll never again go for dinner at a restaurant, have a drink at a pub, meet friends/neighbours for coffee or barbecues, go Christmas shopping/see the Christmas lights, own a pet, drive a car, attend a wedding, all the million and one small pleasures of a life of freedom, all gone, forevermore.
In her own, handwritten notes, Letby once expressed the fear she would never marry or have a family of her own - a self-fulfilling prophesy she guaranteed for herself, by destroying other people's families. There will be no engagement for Lucy, no hen night, no wedding dress shopping, no walking up the aisle on her proud father's arm, no honeymoon - and of course, no pregnancies or motherhood. All future milestone she and her parents had hoped for, are dead in the water.
Lucy Letby's parents had her late in life. They're getting on and won't be around forever. They'll be her lifeline now, as her loyal friends fall away, one by one, and her years in custody stack up. Will anyone but her mum and dad ever visit her in jail? Her poor parents - two more lives she's ruined. They moved to Manchester to attend every day of her murder trial, in solidarity. No doubt they will now move again, to be close to her prison.
And that's their family life, until they die. Prison phone calls, and visits. A whole life tariff for them too. No wonder they refuse to believe she committed these horrific crimes. Even the delusion of a terrible miscarriage of justice, is better than the truth - their only child, their much-loved, pretty blonde daughter, is a serial killer of babies, and will die in prison - probably long after them. The longed-for child they thought was such a blessing, turned out to be a curse.
Imagine being in Lucy Letby's shoes right now. How far away and glamorous her life of just a few years ago must seem to her, now she's got nothing to look forward to but that pokey little room with its grim metal bed. The highlight of her day could be a visit to a tiny 'library', or the equivalent of a musty charity shop, to buy other people's cast-off clothes - when she has nowhere to wear them, except inside those four walls.
And let's not forget why Letby is in that prison, with a rare, whole life tariff. She may look - and indeed be - a meek, timid little middle-class blonde. But she's also a ruthless, sadistic serial killer of fragile newborn and premature babies. There's a target on her back. Most of her fellow prisoners, who didn't enjoy her many life advantages, would just love to make a name for themselves by doing her serious physical harm. She won't be popular for many reasons - not least that she's a narcissist, who no doubt believes she shouldn't be there and is way better than all the other women. Her arrogance won't serve her well.
Lucy Letby is a cowardly baby killer, locked up with some very violent, hard-faced females. When solitary confinement is your best option, the future is as grim as it gets.
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@silver4831 First of all, you'd be hard pushed to find a 'full op trans woman', as the vast majority of trans-identified males/trans women (well over 90%), happily retain their male genitals, and have no intention of losing them.
Regardless, all trans women are biological males, and therefore belong in male prisons. It is not the responsibility of women to be human shields protecting men from attack by other men! Every prison has measures in place to protect those inmates deemed vulnerable, for whatever reason.
A trans man is a biological women, and is therefore not the physical/sexual risk to females that a biological man is, so yes, a trans man belongs in a women's prison, with other biological women. As a biological woman, a trans man would obviously be at huge potential danger of being attacked in a men's prison.
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If she were dead, her suffering would be over. Lucy Letby must live the rest of her life locked in those four walls, knowing she's the most hated and despised person in Britain. And knowing the only way she is ever getting out of that maximum security prison, is in a body bag.
No more high status job, no more good times with friends, she'll never be able to do all the things she used to take for granted - go for a drive, have a meal in a restaurant, enjoy a night at the pub, go shopping, host a barbecue, visit friends, drive a car, own a pet, go abroad on holiday, have a boyfriend/get married, have kids etc etc. Imagine all those freedoms, taken from you? Life literally wouldn't be worth living!
And she's such a spoiled only-child, she no doubt thinks she's far too good to be in there, surrounded by criminals. A narcissistic baby killer won't do well in prison - she will have a target on her back. She picked on the most defenceless, fragile victims, but she will now be living with some really hard-faced killers, who would love to do her serious physical harm. I doubt she'll be quite so brave up against another adult! Letby will be receiving some tough lessons in humility behind bars.
She's lost everything - and brought shame on the parents who doted on her. She threw away her charmed life, because she's a spoiled narcissist, who couldn't resist playing God with other people's precious babies. I hope she lives a very long life, remembering the wonderful lifestyle she used to have - and still would have, if she'd only let those poor babies live. Living with the consequences of her evil crimes is the worst possible punishment. Her future is beyond bleak. She doesn't even have the hope of future parole to keep her going - that is surely a fate far worse than death.
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@KingofKlubs Thank God someone's talking sense in these comments. Frankly I would rather die than know I'm living out the rest of my days locked inside that crummy bedroom - and in solitary confinement because of all the hard-faced criminals who want to disembowel me - with only a shabby little library, and a musty charity shop of other people's cast off clothes for entertainment.
And not even the glimmer of hope of some day getting parole, to keep you going! That is a fate WAY worse than death! If people only used their imaginations, they'd realise being deprived of your liberty is a far worse punishment than a lethal injection.
Think of the charmed life Lucy Letby had just a few years ago - a high status, professional job, a nice house she'd just bought, the indulged only child of doting parents, a great social life with lots of friends, foreign holidays, a car, two pet cats, her health and her whole life ahead of her. And she threw it all away, because she's a spoiled narcissist who couldn't resist playing God with other people's precious babies.
Today she's the most hated and despised person in Britain. She brought shame on the parents who were so proud of her, they announced her 21st birthday and graduation in the local paper! What does she have to look forward to?
I can't think of anything more likely to need solitary confinement than a snooty, narcissistic baby-killer, pretending she's innocent and doesn't deserve to be there. Letby will have a target on her back for sure. It's only a matter of time before we hear she's been attacked inside. She's a coward who murdered the most defenceless - I doubt she'll cope well in any kind of physical confrontation with an adult. She must look back on the life she had with such regret - that's the price she's paying for her evil crimes, and I personally hope she lives a long and miserable life, waking up every day wishing she was dead!
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Big balls? Testicles are in reality, tender, desperately vulnerable little things. The male scrotum is a quivering jelly, that can reduce its owner to a quivering jelly with the slightest injury. Your 'big balls' analogy makes no sense at all - the bigger the balls, the more vulnerable their owner!
At least Sunak, unlike Gutless Keir Starmer, had the balls to know what a woman is and publicly acknowledge that any owner of balls is not female, and never can be. Ditto Boris Johnson was clear on this biological fact. The Labour Party's wholesale submission to misogynist gender--bollox is a total disgrace, and exposes the party as no friend of women, gay people, or child safeguarding.
Kemi has a proud history of defending females and children against this woke garbage, and fully deserves to win the Conservative leadership. Sadly they don't have the courage to elect her. More fool them.
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@elrey2032 Fascinating post. It's impossible to understand the twisted thought processes, goals and rewards of sadistic, psychopathic killers like Letby, unless you are one yourself.
But yes, I agree it's entirely possible that part of her rejoices at the suffering she has caused her own parents. Their devotion to her, their only child, is unusually intense and at times weirdly inappropriate. It may not be abusive parenting in the strict sense of the word, but it certainly isn't healthy. She once told a friend she could never emigrate, as her parents would be so utterly devastated. I bet there's a big love-hate element to her feelings for them, and that she resents their controlling ways - and has done for years.
Perhaps she secretly blames them for her crimes - narcissistic abusers/killers always play the victim, and refuse to own their evil deeds. Maybe the baby-killings were a form of misdirected rage and rebellion, at the parents who expected her to be their perfect daughter?
I wouldn't be at all surprised if the real Lucy Letby - that is, the LL who knows she has committed these unspeakable crimes against babies - justifies her violence by blaming her parents for it.
If I'm right, then she probably feels mum and dad, not her, deserve prison for 'making her' kill. It isn't hard to imagine she harbours powerful, unresolved anger against them. And now that her life is effectively over as she will die in custody, that rage will surely inevitably grow in the years ahead.
The supreme irony is that now, due to her own, horrific crimes, she is more emotionally dependent on her mum and dad than ever. As every friend/friendly relative she ever had withdraws from her, and the bleak years/decades in custody stretch out ahead, her parents are likely the only two people left on the planet whose loyalty she can count on. Becoming a convicted child killer, of all things, has isolated her like nothing else, and hugely increased her need for parental support.
Just as bizarrely, it's possible there's a part of her clingy, over-protective parents, that sees obvious advantages from her terrible situation. Because their precious daughter can never emigrate now, or carve out an independent life that's so happy and fulfilled it doesn't include them very much. They know their prisoner daughter will need them 'til they die - and that gives them the ongoing parental power over her, that they have always craved.
Lucy may now be even more emotionally dependant on her parents, than she was as a child. In the ongoing, permanent absence of a boyfriend, husband, children of her own or close friends, her mum and dad are her world - her two 'significant others'. At least until one parent, and then the other one dies, and leaves her at the mercy of indifferent prison staff who literally don't care if she lives or dies.
As they had her late in life as older parents, she has the added worry that her parents' time on Earth as her only supporters, is limited. It really is hard to imagine a bleaker future than Lucy Letby's - except perhaps, her parents'. The daughter they were so proud of, must now be a dark, secret they share, hidden from all new acquaintances. They must forevermore watch what they say, for fear they give away their identities as parents to a monster - a serial baby-killer.
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@KingofKlubs You summed up the situation very eloquently, and that quote is perfect (I've never heard it - so profound in its simplicity).
For most people I believe Letby's future really would be a fate worse than death. She will be tormented daily with memories of the wonderful life and high status she once had - all crashed and burned, gone forever, with no hope of redemption.
I suspect the loss of her status is among the most unbearable aspects of Lucy Letby's lifetime of consequences. She gives every indication of having strongly narcissistic traits - the classic spoiled and entitled, only-child. A nurse's uniform and caring image is the perfect cover for a covert narcissist. But her crimes have stripped her of her cover. The mask has been torn off, and the world now sees the monster behind the coy smile of the angelic, softly-spoken blonde 'caregiver'.
Those tiny babies were the ultimate, flattering prop for the cynical Letby - and the perfect, powerless and voiceless victims of her violence (though some of them did cry out in pain and protest, trying in vain to alert others to her monstrous assaults on them, bless their innocent hearts).
A crime like this is thankfully rare. Nonetheless, I believe the time has come for CCTV in ALL NHS hospital wards, to keep every patient safe - from newborn babies to the elderly. Last year a woman was raped in the middle of the night, on an NHS hospital ward designated as women-only. Her attacker was a trans-identified man - NHS policy is not to tell patients of the presence of such men on single sex, female wards, even if a patient asks them directly. I think that is an outrage. If I ever found a man sharing a female ward with my sick, defenceless 86 year old mother, I would play hell.
All hospital patients are potentially vulnerable - sick, weak, drowsy from meds and anaesthetic, often asleep/unconscious, wearing flimsy nightwear, and laying in bed. There is all kinds of potential for violent crime in hospitals, and not only from the staff. I believe it's only a matter of time before CCTV comes in across the board, and that can only be a good thing.
As for Lucy Letby, all she has left now is her hollow claim of innocence, the support of increasingly frail parents with little choice but to support her self-serving lies, and a few friends who choose the delusion she was wrongly convicted. But I doubt she can count on their backing for much longer. The more one learns about this case, the more obvious her guilt becomes.
The simple fact the baby unit where Letby worked and was present during at least 13 baby collapses and seven fatalities, has had only one infant death since she stopped working there seven years ago, speaks volumes!
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