Comments by "Glamdolly" (@glamdolly30) on "Derek Van Schaik"
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Great video DVS! The Australia video apologising for sneaking their dogs into the country by private plane without declaring them is interesting, and reveals a lot about both Amber Heard and Johnny Depp and their relationship - which at this point was very close to breaking point (he ended the marriage 2 weeks later).
Johnny Depp had to be in Australia to make his 5th and likely his final 'Pirates' movie, since Amber Heard's false abuse allegations subsequently destroyed the relationship between Depp and Disney.
So his reasons for being in Australia were important, business ones - he was the star of a major movie being filmed there. Amber merely flew out later to join him, as his wife. She had mentioned to both Johnny and their PA, her intention to smuggle the two tiny teacup Yorkshire Terriers with her into the country, without doing it legally.
Both Johnny and the PA advised her against, knowing it meant breaking Australia's strict laws - and the risk of public censure/negative publicity for such high profile people as her and Depp. But she went ahead and did it anyway.
Her actions in deliberately breaking Australian law showed disrespect not only for the country but also for the dogs, which Australia could have legally euthanised as a direct result of her actions. But in the context of the Depps' marriage, her decision to break the law is very telling. She told the jury she was scared of her husband - but would she really have shown contempt for his wishes and brought the dogs into Australia, if she was some terrified domestic abuse victim? Hardly!
It showed a staggering disregard for Depp's status and image. One could interpret her actions as an active, conscious attempt to sabotage him. He had made it clear to her he didn't want her to bring the dogs into Australia without proper paperwork - but she went ahead and did it anyway.
Johnny Depp was always by far the bigger star out of the two of them. She knew that - Hell, it's almost certainly the reason she married him, against a history of lesbian, same sex relationships. There are many examples of her hostile treatment of Depp that indicate she resented his greater fame and talent. There are also grounds to believe she was so envious, she wanted to BE Johnny Depp - even during the recent libel trial, she turned up to court wearing strikingly similar outfits to his! This trolling or 'mirroring' was noticed by many serious media commentators.
We often see this weird, envious dynamic in relationships between narcissistic abusers like Amber Heard and their chosen victim/partner, who is typically an Empath ie the opposite of a Narcissist. The abuser latches onto the Empath victim like a parasite, and enjoys all the social advantages of their close association with a more well-adjusted, generous, warm-hearted and popular person. The Narcissist is incapable of loving anyone (other than themselves), so they choose an Empath partner who absolutely DOES love, deeply and genuinely - and is socially successful and widely loved in return because of it. We saw this in all the people, friends, family and employees of 30 years, who came to court and spoke movingly of Johnny's kindness and generosity to them. All but Amber's sister stayed away from the court, and instead gave evidence by Zoom.
The special qualities the victim possesses that first attracted the abuser to them, are the same qualities they envy and resent. In the early, 'love bombing' stage of the relationship, the abuser praises and compliments the victim to win their love and loyalty. But once they have the victim hooked, the 'de-valuing' stage starts, and insults fly in which the abuser tries to destroy the victim's self-esteem. One example of the many insults Heard threw at Depp were that he was an "Old, fat, washed-up actor". At the time he was arguably the world's biggest movie star commanding up to $20 million a movie. She was a supporting actor not a headlining one, and best known for no other role than her romantic relationship with megastar Johnny Depp.
Another time on hearing that global couture house Dior were interested in hiring Depp, Heard responded "Why Dior want to do business with you? They are about class and style and you do not have style". Obvious jealousy!
Depp's reactions to Heard's multiple abuses was to be overly passive. He even supported her when the shit hit the fan over her smuggling the dogs, by making that ill-advised, parody apology video with her - which only made the insult to the country worse. That video was made 2 weeks before Depp finally called time on the 15 month marriage and told her he was ending it. It's powerful proof of how overly tolerant of her abuse he was - even when he'd had a bellyful of her verbal and physical assaults, he was so supportive of his wife he made a video backing her up ovr her abuse of Australian laws!
This strongly supports his own evidence that he was a victim of childhood abuse by his domineering and violent mother Betty-Sue. His response as a child when she geared up for a fight was to flee - and he did the same as a middle aged adult when Amber Heard flew into an abusive rage. I truly believe Heard was capable of killing him when he told her he wanted out of the marriage. In my view he's only alive today because he flew many miles away to Europe for a music tour, immediately after delivering the news. Narcissistic abusers as extreme as her often escalate their violence to murder, when the victim rejects them. We see this frequently in domestic homicide - the victim's decision to end the relationship, triggers their murder. Narcissistic abusers won't accept rejection, and won't allow the victim to leave the relationship alive - and be happy without them.
In Depp's absence, Heard could no longer physically assault him. So she did the next best thing to take her power back and hurt him - she launched divorce proceedings, and a restraining order, then got her staff to tip off the media when she went to the court with a fake bruise painted on her face (a bruise which would have faded had Depp inflicted it, since she hadn't seen him in 10 days). It was the publicity stunt that launched Heard's vendetta to ruin his image and career. And as Depp himself said, from that first big lie came all the other, escalating lies painting him as a wife beater and even a rapist.
We could very easily have been watching a murder trial, at which Amber Heard would have told exactly the same lies about Johnny Depp's supposed domestic and sexual violence to claim she killed him in self defence. Thank God he got out alive - and didn't make the mistake of getting her pregnant, so he was tied to her forever through a child. It seems likely Elon Musk is the idiot who donated sperm for her surrogate baby (perhaps her passive punching bag sister Whitney was the surrogate in question - she seems to do Amber's bidding, including her recent perjury).
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Law enforcement above all should know that domestic violence victims protect their abuser! Those cops should never have taken Gabby Petito's self blame and denials of her boyfriend's abuse at face value. She was bound to react like that - it was textbook and totally predictable, and only confirmed her status as a vulnerable victim in need of their support.
Yet the two bodycam perspectives reveal without question, those cops identified Gabby as the perpetrator and her abuser as the victim. They never once confronted or questioned Brian about the two independent witness reports of him assaulting her on the roadside. Detective work doesn't get worse or more incompetent than that! The police have no excuse for their victim-blaming and their duping by a soon-to-be killer. They did not meet this couple cold, they stopped the vehicle due to not one but two members of the public calling 911 on him. They knew Brian Laundrie was the villain here!
Why were cops so easily taken in by the abuser's nice guy act, and so quick to accept Gabby's low estimation of herself? She was not the aggressor. She'd been worn down and gaslit, by an arch manipulator playing controlling mind-games in that confined van. Brian even admitted locking her out of the vehicle - it was clearly his sadistic punishment to deprive her of their only source of safety and shelter, when she said or did something that displeased him. That's outrageous! Yet police never picked up on the significance of it.
Brian had no right to assume control of the keys and lock her out, it was her frigging van - though we note he was careful never to admit that to police! His defensive statements and body language showed he knew full well he was the guilty party and the abuser. He checked his words constantly to disguise his guilt. He said things like "I pushed her away... I know I shouldn't push her but..." and "I shut her out of the van so she'd cool down", he's presenting himself as a decent, reasonable man, dealing with an unhinged, volatile woman. It's the abuser's usual 'black is white' inversion of reality, accusing Gabby of nasty conduct and character flaws that are actually his! A classic abuser, he's incredibly sly and manipulative - and cops fell for it hook, line and sinker!
Gabby was extremely distressed, Brian was not, another red flag for HIS abuse. Yet cops obsessively focused on scratches on his face - the typical marks sustained by abusive males, as the woman tries to defend herself - and interpreted them as a strike against her. Men who just murdered their partner typically have those same facial scratches, they are a red flag to the man's violence, not the woman's! Brian's facial marks were a chilling portent of his horrific murder to come.
Accurately identifying red flags for male abuse is very basic stuff, and it's astonishing these officers were so shockingly ignorant of them. Worse, the second bodycam showed cops 'debriefing' together after Gabby and Brian's departure, and the lead cop concluded he could have arrested Gabby (WTF?!) but decided not to because they were so clearly a young couple in love. If that chump gets to keep his job after this total disaster, he must be sent on a full domestic abuse course to correct his shocking ignorance. He and his colleagues missed a golden opportunity to arrest a cowardly abuser, and give him a clear message his mistreatment of Gabby would not be tolerated. Instead they fell over themselves to be nice to him, repeatedly telling him "You're not in any trouble", when he damn well should have been after not one but two witness reports of him assaulting a woman!
Women are overwhelmingly the main victims of domestic abuse, and domestic homicide victims are almost exclusively female. Therefore police should have known it was Gabby, not Brian, who was at risk of serious harm, and who deserved to be prioritised and supported by them. Two weeks after their brush with the law, Gabby lay dead, a homicide victim, and Brian was on the run from justice. How much worse could these bozos in uniform have called this? Gabby and all women, deserve better from law enforcement professionals!
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Spot on, that is the $64,000 dollar question! Police pulled the van over because an independent witness had called in the licence plate on 911, and reported seeing Brian 'slapping and hitting' Gabby on the street. That's a credible and very serious allegation of a recently committed violent crime against a female.
Yet the officer who stopped them never once confronted Brian over it! Instead he fell over himself to tell him "You are not in any trouble". Why the hell wasn't he in any trouble - he's a suspected woman beater! He then compunded his error by sending the distressed Gabby off alone to spend the night locked in her van, a lone and vulnerable female, and in contrast took the perpetrator Brian to a hotel for a night spent in comfort. No wonder the creep was smiling, he sure fooled those dumb cops with his 'wouldn't hurt a fly', 'my girlfriend is crazy' act.
Police actions only further isolated Gabby and empowered Brian, and helped secure her reunion with him the following day, totally on his terms. He killed her less than two weeks later.
The bodycam shows shocking failings by police that day. The officer who dealt with Gabby and her soon to be killer, has a serious case to answer for incompetance. He certainly needs a crash course in domestic abuse and Narcissistic Personality Disorder, as he wouldn't recognise either if they bit him on the ass.
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@RickGrimes007 How many times does an asshole like Brian have to verbally & physically beat up a victim, before you recognise he didn't 'snap'. "I snapped" is the age-old excuse of cold-blooded, premeditated killers since time began!
Gabby's murder was clearly an escalation in a long pattern of violence for 'slapping and hitting her' on the street just 2 weeks before her death, shows what a dangerous relationship it had become for her.
Abusers typically isolate their victim, so she's at their mercy and vulnerable, without a support network of friends and family to help her. This seems to have happened to Gabby - 2 years previously she left her own family and travelled miles away to live with Brian at his parents' house. That set up gave him power and compromised hers.
There are always red flags in an abuser's behaviour, before they do their worst and kill. That's why it's crucial women set boundaries in a new relationship, about the way they expect to be treated, ie well, not abusively. When their partner tramples over their boundaries and disrespects them with abuse, it's a major red flag to end the relationship. Because as this case shows, abuse only ever escalates over time, and in some cases can get so bad that the abuser murders the victim. #JusticeForGabby
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@ljb8157 Gabby's van was pulled over by police not on any 'gut feeling' as you put it, but because a member of the public just called the licence plate in on 911 after witnessing Brian 'slapping and hitting' Gabby on the street. Therefore police had an independant witness report of the vehicle's male occupant having just committed the serious offence of domestic violence.
Yet at no point do the officers confront Brian over that credible and very serious allegation! Nor do they treat Gabby as a vulnerable victim in need of support, in either their verbal interactions with her or the actions they ultimately took. They treated her as perpetrator and him as victim, sending her off to drive her van alone (despite her clear distress and her stating she wasn't confident about driving it), to spend the night locked in it overnight as a lone female, while smug Brian got a cosy night in a hotel room. No wonder he looked so smug! Cops only succeeded in further isolating Gabby and making her more vulnerable to Brian's abusive control. Her murder by him less than 2 weeks later shows exactly how disastrously they called it!
Police should be trained to recognise the typical behaviours of domestic abuser and victim - Brian and Gabby's verbal and body language that day were actually textbook! Her obvious emotional distress and Brian's total indifference to it, tell the story only too clearly. But watching the bodycam, you get no sense that Brian is suspected of any crime against her - quite the opposite in fact, the cop falls over himself to tell him: "You're not in any trouble".
Why wasn't he in any trouble? A total stranger just called cops on him to say he'd been seen beating a female in public! Wouldn't you expect to be on the receiving end of some robust questioning, if you were the focus of a serious independent witness accusation like that?
Unbelievably, that officer accepted Gabby's self-blame and Brian's cool, 'I'm a great guy with a crazy girlfriend' schtick at face value. Law enforcement must use that damning bodycam footage as a future training tool for police, to show them how NOT to deal with a probable domestic abuse situation.
Domestic abuse is overwhelmingly male on female, and its murder victims are almost exclusively female. Of the two of them it was Gabby, not Brian, who was at potential risk of serious harm. The police have no excuses here - the crime statistics on domestic abuse are only too clear cut and unambiguous. They failed Gabby that day, and potentially missed a golden opportunity to save her life.
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Narcissistic abusers are very smart. Amber Heard set her sights on Depp as a trophy partner who could further her acting career. He was the perfect victim for her - a mega rich and powerful movie star, who as a survivor of childhood abuse, was a major Empath. That meant when he encountered abusive, domineering women like his mother, he responded the same way he always had - with passive, non-resistance. Amber Heard will have tested his boundaries early on and discovered to her delight, he would be very easy to dominate and manipulate.
When they met Heard was in a relationship with a woman (she's a lesbian who was never into him). The relationship was marred by Heard's domestic abuse, and probably nearing its end (she spent a night in police cells for one physical assault on that woman in an airport). Depp was 14 years into his marriage to Vanessa Paradis.
Heard 'love bombed' Depp in the early stages, as narcissistic abusers do. She flattered him, slept with him and told him she loved him early on, and basically swept him off his feet. This is how they gain control over their intended victim. And once they've hooked the victim with all this good stuff and got them committed, the mask falls off and they begin the 'de-valuing stage', telling the victim they're nothing special, not good enough for them, insulting them, gas-lighting them, and in worst cases like this one, physically attacking them too.
By that time the victim is so in love with the abuser they blame themselves for the mistreatment and anger they're on the receiving end of. They are brainwashed into believing it's their fault, and they must do better to re-gain the loving, attentive partner the abuser once was. But that loving, attentive partner never existed - it was only ever an act. The abuser is the real person, and the sooner the victim realises that terrible truth and gets out, the safer they will be.
I hope Johnny Depp commits to long term psychotherapy, to address the demons that allowed him to tolerate Amber Heard's serious abuse for so long. We learned through the court case, he had allowed her sister and many of her friends to abuse his kind nature too, moving them rent-free into neighbouring penthouse apartments (that alone showed he was no abuser as Heard claimed, as abusers isolate victims from their friends & support networks, they don't invite them to live next door!)
Depp is said to have many hangers-on he thinks are friends, who he's given cash, homes and cars to, believing every hard luck story brought to him. He's naively trusted untrustworthy people to have free access to his homes. These people are parasites who have literally stolen from him - cash, jewellery, even his clothes. A few years ago this same legal team who represented him against Heard helped his sue a business manager who siphoned millions of dollars from him, without his knowledge.
It's said many of Depp's supposed friends deliberately keep him drunk and drugged to facilitate their thefts from him. Abusers come in many guises, not only partners - now he's kicked the toxic ex-wife to the kerb with this court case, I hope he'll take a long hard look at the other people in his life who benefit from his patronage, and clear out the rest of the trash.
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Yes, it's especially sad he didn't listen to his older sister Christi Dembrowski, who he's always been close to and who works for him, he generally respects her judgement. She was very worried about his relationship with Amber Heard - she could see she was mentally unstable and abusive. When he told Christi they were getting married she asked him not to rush into it. But sadly he allowed himself to be rushed by Heard - and no wonder she rushed him, she didn't want to leave time for a pre-nup!
And in the absence of a pre-nup, Heard was confident she could blackmail Depp into a massive divorce settlement when they (inevitably) split, by falsely alleging he beat her up. He walked right into that trap. Her divorce lawyers' early letters to him are blatant blackmail demands, basically saying "give our client multiple millions of dollars, plus three penthouse apartments and the top-of-the-range Range Rover she drives, and she won't go to the media with outrageous negative stories about you". And she pretends she's not a gold digger - she's the worst kind of gold digger!
Depp was stupid to get entangled with such a woman, but people who understand the cycle of narcissistic abuse recognise this doomed relationship was a textbook example. As a survivor of childhood narcissistic abuse by his mother, Depp was the perfect victim for another female narcissistic abuser to target him as an adult. Amber Heard was that narcissistic abuser. When they met, he was in a failing, 14 year marriage to Vanessa Paradis. They would almost certainly have split soon, regardless of Heard. The point is, he was ripe to fall in love with another women.
Heard was in a relationship with a woman (surprise surprise - she's a lesbian, which should have been another red flag for Johnny), and that same-sex relationship was also in trouble. Heard's violent domestic abuse was a serious issue (as we heard in court, it once landed her in police cells for a night, when she had one of her rages and hit her girlfriend in an airport). Heard saw that global superstar Depp could further her acting ambitions, and set about seducing him with flattery, sex and all the good stuff that happens when narcissistic abusers 'love bomb' their victim in the first stages of the relationship. That's how they ensnare the victim, and get power over them.
Once they've hooked the victim, their mask comes off and the abuse begins. And by that time, the victim is in love with their abuser and blames themselves for upsetting them - aided by their gas-lighting and brain washing of course. They feel if only they could keep the abuser happy, they'd go back to being the wonderful partner they were at the start of the relationship, during the 'love bombing' phase. But of course that wonderful partner never existed. The real person is the abuser, and always will be.
As a kid he would rub his mom's feet when she came home tired and bad-tempered from working as a waitress, and in the same way he'd try to placate Amber and calm her rages with love. But it never works - these abusers are a bottomless pit, and nothing the victim says or does for them is ever enough to win their love or approval.
I'm just glad Johnny Depp escaped that toxic relationship with his life, and I believe the only reason he did is he flew to Europe right after telling her the marriage was over. If he'd stayed anywhere near her after rejecting her, I'm of the view she may have literally killed him. Narcissistic abusers as extreme as her won't accept rejection. When the victim rejects them by telling them they no longer want to be with them, their violence can escalate to murder. With Johnny out of the country, an enraged Amber Heard could not physically attack him. So instead she launched divorce proceedings and took out a restraining order to support false claims he beat her up. That was how she took her power back, and was the start of her cruel vendetta against him for daring to end their marriage.
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Agreed, very smart deduction. The only thing we can be sure of, is that Chris Watts has not yet told the whole truth about that night, and he never will. But unfortunately I believe we'll hear more of his murder stories before he dies.
All three versions he has told to date have been self serving in various respects. I will never believe he did not kill all three victims inside the house behind 4 walls, like almost every other cowardly family annihilator. The driveway video shows him taking three dead, not live victims to his truck IMO.
Shanann's father Frank was right in his courtroom victim impact statement when he told Watts: "I watched you carry them out like trash". At no point did CW or his team contradict a word of the prosecution's assertion he killed them all inside the family home.
There is no logical reason for CW to delay the children's murders as he claims. Indeed there's much more reason to believe he killed Bella and Cece first, before Shanann got home. He couldn't stand 'Those girls', as he kept calling them in horrible, distancing language. I think he was excited about his long-held 'D-Day' coming round and probably wanted to 'start the ball rolling', suffocating them on their mattresses soon after putting them to bed.
It would explain why Shanann said he sounded 'annoyed' when she told him of her very inconvenient, 3 hour flight delay - it was too late for him to postpone the mission and do it when he had more time, because he'd already killed the children.
And why did he tell his mistress in that late night, 111 minute call, that he'd washed his little girls' sheets, and that they "Stank"? It's suspicious he was laundering their bedclothes before Shanann came home. Did Bella, who'd suffered a violent struggle, and didn't wear nappies, defecate as she died?
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Brian's a coward so he won't kill himself, and he won't survive much longer without people to help him. Which makes me think there must be someone harbouring him - most likely a relative. The police have performed abominably so far, so we cannot assume they are diligently checking out any family members who might be hiding him!
A neighbouring sheriff criticised cops for failing to arrest Brian for domestic abuse when the van was pulled over, and later for letting him flee his parents' house and go on the run after Gabby was reported missing. Sheriff, Grady Judd, said he would have put handcuffs on Brian for suspected domestic abuse when he pulled them over after two 911 reports of him assaulting her on the roadside. He also said when he returned from the trip in her van without her, he'd have taken him into custody and he'd have had no opportunity to escape. I hope the lousy cops in this case have to answer for their terrible judgements, which only put Gabby in a worse, more vulnerable situation, and further empowered her abuser and finally her killer Brian.
Have cops brought Momma and Dadda Laundry in for questioning? If not, why not? They need to put pressure on those two, their weird behaviour to date and total disrespect for the Petito family indicates he disappeared with their full support. It also suggests he's told them he killed Gabby, and they think he has nothing to lose by fleeing justice for her murder. Get the thumbscrews on those scumbags! They are so blindly loyal to their only son, their daughter revealed today they are no longer speaking to her. That's a huge clue as to the dangerously spoiled and entitled narcissist Brian Laundry became under their over-indulgent parenting.
I don't think he's smart or resourceful enough to evade police for even another week. When the rat is dragged from his hole, may justice be as swift and merciless as the violence he meted out on that beautiful and much-loved young woman.
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@jackiec1586 I'm a newspaper journalist of 30 years experience and have studied many family annihilations. I see no realistic prospect of any scenario other than he committed all three murders inside the home, like 99% of family annihilators. Chris Watts isn't especially unique, in fact he's quite typical of the breed. They are generally covert narcissists, whose friends and neighbours will say: "I can't believe it, he wouldn't hurt a fly".
It's well known Chris Watts' parents and sister monitor online true crime and update him on the latest talk about him. They no doubt tipped him off about the so-called 'shadows theory' that he took a live child from the house. He liked it so much, he went one better and claimed to have taken BOTH children to Cervi 319 alive and murdered them there. No sighting of a second 'child's shadow' on the video or anything else to support CW's claim!
I believe he belatedly endorsed the 'shadows theory' a full six months after his murder convictions for several, self serving reasons. First he was bored pacing his cage after 6 months and wanted attention and headlines. He had agreed to collaborate with (now discredited) Cheryln Cadle on a book, and knew he must offer her 'new and exclusive' material in order to sell it (though she did such a lazy job, there's barely anything original in that self-published, plagiarised joke of a 'book').
Most important, I think Chris Watts wanted to do PR for himself, by pretending the murders were chaotic, disorganised, and he wasn't in his right mind. As he kept telling visiting detectives last year: "I didn't know what I was doing".
Obviously, to let two small, unpredictable children run riot outside your house to wake neighbours as you're taking their dead mother's corpse to your truck would be an act of madness. But Chris Watts wasn't mad - he was in his right mind and fully in control throughout the murders. That's why he would never have let Bella and Cece loose to mess up his carefully premeditated murder plans like that.
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@ljb8157 Your, to date, FIVE replies to my one post, each showing greater ignorance of domestic abuse than the last, are sadly too dumb to warrant serious consideration. That you can't even recognise the value of an independent, unbiased witness statement says it all! If you hold down a job, it certainly doesn't require advanced critical thinking skills.
It's been widely identified that this crime is getting enthusiastic attention from a cross section of lonely Incels, following the case from their mommys' basements. Incels strongly identify with Brian Laundrie, a loser who murdered his more attractive, popular and accomplished girlfriend because he was scared she would leave him. Laundrie is a logical poster boy for Incels because he's an unattractive Incel-type, who by some miracle snagged a cute girlfriend - then killed her. He pretty much embodies Incels' every twisted, conflicted, rage-filled emotion about females who won't fuck them.
It's fortunate this case was captured on police bodycam. That shocking footage not only exposed dire failings in law enforcement training for handling domestic abuse, it got Gabby Petito's murder greater publicity. Publicity will help inform and empower the overwhelmingly female victims of inadequate male narcissists like Laundrie. That will improve their chances of escaping such abusive relationships alive, as tragically Gabby did not.
Violence against women is a global pandemic far deadlier for females than Covid. In the UK alone, two women are killed every week by a male partner/ex partner. Last week a 28-year-old woman was murdered by a stranger on an early evening, 5-minute walk from her home to meet a friend for a drink. If women killed men in anything like the same numbers that men kill women, there would be frequent international debates about 'the crisis of female violence', and women would be forced to live under a curfew to keep men safe. But everywhere in the world, societies expect females to just accept that some males are inevitably violent. As toxic attitudes like yours show, often male offenders are not condemned and despised for their cowardly crimes against women, but are tacitly (and explicitly) supported.
The usual trigger for domestic murder is the woman leaving, or making moves to leave her abusive partner. These pathetic excuses for men can't take rejection, and won't let the woman leave and be happy without him. I have no doubt Brian saw Gabby slipping out of his control, leaving him and taking her van, electronic devices and money with her. Like Chris Watts before him, Laundrie's an entitled parasite, and she was carrying him every step of the way. The loser even stole from her bank account after he had killed her.
Brian Laundrie will soon be locked in the cage he'll die in. It's only a shame his Incel fan club aren't locked up with him - their hysterical, woman-hating tantrums are beyond boring!
I've been kind enough to patronise you awhile, as you're in such obvious need of an education. But as you've made abundantly clear you have nothing of value to add to this or any other thread, I can't reply again. I see you're continuing to post multiple responses to my superior posts. Your need for female affirmation is painfully obvious. Sorry Hunt, no dice!
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@jessicascuderi3157 Great post, yes, Nickole and Nate show that the most seemingly ordinary people can be utterly extraordinary when the chips are down.
Nickole went with her woman's intuition and alerted police, even as Chris Watts was calling her cell phone and telling her not to. Females have an innate, inner alarm system to keep us and our vulnerable children/loved ones safe. It rarely if ever steers us wrong and we ignore it at our peril, as this case reminds us!
Chris Watts' hostile body language towards his wife's friend when he arrived at the house was chilling - if looks could kill! And we know if she hadn't called cops but had turned up to his house alone, he was perfectly capable of killing her too, to silence her.
Nate wasn't fooled by his neighbour's big handshake and 'bumbling, harmless family guy' act. Nate is what Chris Watts pretended to be, but never was - a genuine, decent, loving husband and father. I reckon that's why ultimately Nate smelled a rat about Chris Watts. Nate IS the genuine article and knew how he would behave if his wife and kids disappeared out of the blue, so he saw a mile off that Chris Watts wasn't acting in any way like a genuinely concerned, innocent man.
I so wish Shanann had met and married a 'Nate' kind of guy, and never had the misfortune to be fooled into marriage and kids by evil psychopath Chris Watts. How different her fate would have been.
I sometimes imagine Shanann alive and well in a parallel universe where she never even heard the name Chris Watts. I can see her as a happy wife and mother with a loving husband who is as attractive and likeable as herself. They are known in the community as a great couple, upbeat and dynamic with shared love of family, quick wits and sunny personalities. He clearly respects and adores her, thanking his lucky stars every day that he met and married his soul mate. That is the happy, fulfilled life Shanann fully deserved and should be living today. Tragically it was not to be, and no amount of wishing can turn the clock back to change it.
For me, a famous poem by John Greenleaf Whittier sums it up:
"Of all sad words of tongue or pen,
The saddest are these: It might have been".
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@claytondavis7415 Police stopped the van because they had received not one but two independent witness 911 reports of HIM hitting HER. Therefore it is appalling that those officers not only failed to question Brian Laundrie about those very serious allegations of his violence against Gabby, they incorrectly identified him as the victim just because he had marks on his face!
Police should know male domestic abusers often have such marks on their face and body - they indicate he recently attacked a female and she defended herself the only way she could, lashing out with her hands. Those marks were clues to HIS abuse! Cops of all people should know this stuff. That they don't reveals their training in this area is totally inadequate and must be improved.
Domestic abuse victims are overwhelmingly female and perpetrators are male. And domestic abuse homicide victims are almost exclusively female. Again, police should know this. It was therefore Gabby, not Brian, who was at risk of serious harm and who deserved support and help as the victim - while as perpetrator, he deserved to be arrested and questioned about those two witness reports. People do not dial 911 for no reason!
Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd slammed his police colleagues, saying they had ample reason to arrest Laundrie for domestic abuse that day. If they had, and he'd been reprimanded, I doubt the coward would have been so quick to put his hands on her again.
Instead the cops totally messed it up, treating him like an old pal, and driving him to a hotel for a cosy night of Netflix. In effect, police endorsed his abuse, with the effect he felt emboldened to not only continue his physical attacks on Gabby, but to escalate them to her murder just two weeks later.
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Exactly, I agree with you 100%. In truth, Jessie Smollett is a massively OVER paid, not to say overrated actor, who doesn't know the meaning of the definition; 'public servant'.
His actions as an actor involved in charity/political activism were always entirely self-serving. And the outrageous Chicago faked-mugging that landed him in court, was only an escalation in his previous offending!
Born into privilege to a wealthy and celebrated media family, for years Jessie Smollett shamelessly traded on his ethnicity (and latterly, his sexuality as a gay man), to present himself as the underdog in exchange for public loyalty, support and career advancement.
That cynical strategy worked very well for Jessie Smollett. Celebrities and huge public figures like the Clintons and Obamas lapped it up, and just couldn't get enough of him. But in trying to foist this latest outrageous, criminal fraud on the public to boost his own image (and bankability), Smollett signed his own death warrant.
Who would leave a damned noose around their neck, after two BLACK 'muggers' inexplicably tried to publicly lynch him??? Give me a break! I doubt he will ever live this down - and he shouldn't!
Smollett invented a ridiculous, joke of a fake crime for his career advancement - and discredited all the people subjected to real hate crimes every day - women, people of colour, the physically and mentally disabled, etc etc. Smollet is a total disgrace!
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This is far and away the BEST channel for intelligent, insightful coverage of the Chris Watts murders - BRAVO Derek Van Schaik, your analysis of this merciless psychopath is spot on. People are fascinated and horrified by this case because Chris Watts had appeared to be a loving husband and father, great son and brother, reliable neighbour and dependable co-worker. No one who knew him - not even tragically his victims the closest people to him, his pregnant wife and children, could have imagined the disgusting, depraved acts he would commit.
As a quiet introvert, people projected good qualities onto Chris Watts - they assumed his silence and introspection indicated a gentle, thoughtful, submissive man. How wrong they were - he was a cowardly, cold-hearted narcissist whose lack of personality and drive drew him to the warm, sociable and energised Shanann. When he met her he wanted her, pursued her determinedly (love bombing is the typical MO of a psychopath who uses full-on flattery, flowers, dates, gifts etc etc to win someone over fast and get power over them), then proposed and achieved his end goal - he wanted Shanann for his wife. The unsuspecting Shanann thought this was about love - but psychopaths love nobody but themselves. His pursuit of her was to meet his own, selfish desires at that time - attractive, charismatic and popular Shanann was great for the dull, undynamic, no-personality Chris Watts' image and ego. He enjoyed the reflected glory he got as husband to a glamorous, popular and confident woman.
Family life with her suited him down to the ground (she owned her own $400,000 home and sold it to buy the family house she and he moved into), she contributed the lion's share to their fun new married lifestyle. In return, he was willing to play the role of loving husband and father - until he got bored of it and decided a wife and children didn't fit into his future plans.
Shanann and the children were always at risk of being killed by Chris Watts, because he never, ever loved them or felt any genuine emotion for them. So the minute he decided they no longer served any useful purpose in his life, he was able and willing to end their lives, to erase them from his own. He could do this without a moment's emotion, sadness or even guilt - as evidenced by his behaviour during this TV interview.
People struggle to accept this shocking truth, because as a non psychopath it's tough to understand how a psychopath's mind works. Studies have proved a psychopath's brain is different to a non psychopaths. The pathways to emotion centres in the brain controlling feelings like love, empathy, guilt and even fear are weak in psychopaths (the weak connection to feelings of fear explains why psychopaths are risk takers and could explain why Chris Watts was so relaxed and expected to literally get away with murder). These weak brain pathways connecting to normal human emotions make them capable of unspeakable acts like these murders, and the vile, ruthless cover-up that followed.
However, psychopath's are not just born, they are made too - extreme cases like Chris Watts almost certainly became so dangerous from a combination of nature/genetics which gave him that warped brain, with it's lack of connection to human emotions, but also crucially from nurture/upbringing too. One only has to observe Chris Watts' parents, who have behaved so badly in interviews and in court, and clearly enabled their son's out-of-control narcissism. Their obvious spite against Shanann, a woman they never liked or felt was good enough for their son, has continued even after their son brutally murdered her and her babies and dumped their bodies like trash.
I will never forget their appalling disrespect for the victims and Shanann's family, when they stood up in court (as they had a right to do, as supposed victims themselves), and brazenly took more time than Shanann's family to talk - not about Shanann, Bella, Celeste and Nico - but to tell their evil son that they loved him and forgave him! That was a huge slap in the face for Shanann's family, and totally inappropriate. It should be noted Chris Watts never looked up at his mother as she addressed him, requested his father's support when he was first arrested and told his mother not to come, and according to reports has not allowed her to visit him in prison.
I hope psychiatrists will take advantage of CW's life sentence and study him in prison to learn more about how men like him become so damaged and dangerous. His childhood will be pivotal - and I suspect it would not take long for experts to find he has a deep seated hatred for his mother, which in adulthood translated into love-hate feelings towards women who attract and repel him in equal measure.
I stress though, psychopaths who behave in extreme ways as CW has done, are created by a combination of nature and nurture - in other words, they are both born and made. An eminent psychiatrist studied himself and discovered to his horror, he had the brain of a psychopath - with those weak pathways to human emotions such as love, empathy etc. He had the kind of brain typical of ruthless murderers like Chris Watts! However, he had turned out to be a great guy, successful in his home and career lives - and the reason? He had a wonderful childhood, with a warm, loving secure family who loved and supported him. He said if he had had different parents and an unhappy childhood, he could easily have ended up taking a very different and sinister life-path!
Fascinating subject - I hope Derek does more videos about psychopaths and crucially, explores how we non-psychopaths can spot them! Not all psychopaths are murderers, but they are all capable of wreaking terrible damage and destruction on the people around them. Many psychopaths are highly successful in business and politics - I can think of a very high profile man who may well fit the profile of a psychopath!
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Agreed and I totally understand why Gabby's heartbroken family have started a charitable foundation for abuse victims like her - they have lost her, but desperately need some good to come from that tragedy.
One of the critical changes her homicide needs to trigger is better domestic abuse training for law enforcement, so they never again mishandle an abuse situation as they totally messed this one up.
It's devastating that cops squandered a golden opportunity to give this story a different outcome. I believe Gabby could be alive today if they had received proper training in domestic abuse, and taken appropriate actions that day. They were so utterly clueless about the red flags, they misidentified Gabby as the perpetrator and Brian as the victim.
At the conclusion of the second bodycam after the couple have left the scene, cops de-brief together and one actually says he could have arrested Gabby but decided not to because they were obviously a couple 'in love'. He seriously thought Gabby was the villain and deserved to be locked up, and that this was a healthy relationship. How totally, outrageously wrong can you call it!
Had those officers been trained to recognise the reality - a female victim and a male abuser (as previously confirmed by not one but two independent 911 witness reports) - they'd have identified and prioritised her as the victim, and come down hard on Brian as the abuser. Florida Sheriff Grady Judge has slammed his police colleagues, saying there's no question they should have arrested Brian Laundrie for domestic abuse that day.
By sending Gabby off to sleep in the van alone overnight and treating Brian Laundrie with kid gloves, cops made her more isolated and vulnerable and him more entitled and empowered. Far from punishing his nasty, bullying behaviour, police in effect endorsed it and there's little doubt this fuelled the horrific and rapid escalation in his violence to homicide, just two weeks later.
Lessons must be learned from this domestic crime and the police failings that preceded it. But it will take repeated, determined campaigns by victim advocates like the Petito family, before we see any meaningful change. Police attitudes and misogyny are deep rooted, and inevitably reflect the society they serve.
Better training for police raising their awareness and knowledge of the typical conduct of perpetrators and victims, could have fantastic knock-on effects for the scourge of domestic abuse. How wonderful if law enforcement led the way in educating society on domestic abuse, which ends the lives of an estimated 150 women worldwide every single day. Home is not 'where the heart is' - it's the place a woman is most likely to be murdered, by a man she knows well.
The late Gabby Petito, and all women, deserve so much better from the police, whose job it is to protect and serve victims - not their abusers/killers!
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