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Comments by "Glamdolly" (@glamdolly30) on "How Brian Laundrie Tricked Police Into Believing He Was Innocent | Body Language - Gabby Petito Case" video.
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Spot on, that is the $64,000 dollar question! Police pulled the van over because an independent witness had called in the licence plate on 911, and reported seeing Brian 'slapping and hitting' Gabby on the street. That's a credible and very serious allegation of a recently committed violent crime against a female.
Yet the officer who stopped them never once confronted Brian over it! Instead he fell over himself to tell him "You are not in any trouble". Why the hell wasn't he in any trouble - he's a suspected woman beater! He then compunded his error by sending the distressed Gabby off alone to spend the night locked in her van, a lone and vulnerable female, and in contrast took the perpetrator Brian to a hotel for a night spent in comfort. No wonder the creep was smiling, he sure fooled those dumb cops with his 'wouldn't hurt a fly', 'my girlfriend is crazy' act.
Police actions only further isolated Gabby and empowered Brian, and helped secure her reunion with him the following day, totally on his terms. He killed her less than two weeks later.
The bodycam shows shocking failings by police that day. The officer who dealt with Gabby and her soon to be killer, has a serious case to answer for incompetance. He certainly needs a crash course in domestic abuse and Narcissistic Personality Disorder, as he wouldn't recognise either if they bit him on the ass.
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@RickGrimes007 How many times does an asshole like Brian have to verbally & physically beat up a victim, before you recognise he didn't 'snap'. "I snapped" is the age-old excuse of cold-blooded, premeditated killers since time began!
Gabby's murder was clearly an escalation in a long pattern of violence for 'slapping and hitting her' on the street just 2 weeks before her death, shows what a dangerous relationship it had become for her.
Abusers typically isolate their victim, so she's at their mercy and vulnerable, without a support network of friends and family to help her. This seems to have happened to Gabby - 2 years previously she left her own family and travelled miles away to live with Brian at his parents' house. That set up gave him power and compromised hers.
There are always red flags in an abuser's behaviour, before they do their worst and kill. That's why it's crucial women set boundaries in a new relationship, about the way they expect to be treated, ie well, not abusively. When their partner tramples over their boundaries and disrespects them with abuse, it's a major red flag to end the relationship. Because as this case shows, abuse only ever escalates over time, and in some cases can get so bad that the abuser murders the victim. #JusticeForGabby
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@ljb8157 Gabby's van was pulled over by police not on any 'gut feeling' as you put it, but because a member of the public just called the licence plate in on 911 after witnessing Brian 'slapping and hitting' Gabby on the street. Therefore police had an independant witness report of the vehicle's male occupant having just committed the serious offence of domestic violence.
Yet at no point do the officers confront Brian over that credible and very serious allegation! Nor do they treat Gabby as a vulnerable victim in need of support, in either their verbal interactions with her or the actions they ultimately took. They treated her as perpetrator and him as victim, sending her off to drive her van alone (despite her clear distress and her stating she wasn't confident about driving it), to spend the night locked in it overnight as a lone female, while smug Brian got a cosy night in a hotel room. No wonder he looked so smug! Cops only succeeded in further isolating Gabby and making her more vulnerable to Brian's abusive control. Her murder by him less than 2 weeks later shows exactly how disastrously they called it!
Police should be trained to recognise the typical behaviours of domestic abuser and victim - Brian and Gabby's verbal and body language that day were actually textbook! Her obvious emotional distress and Brian's total indifference to it, tell the story only too clearly. But watching the bodycam, you get no sense that Brian is suspected of any crime against her - quite the opposite in fact, the cop falls over himself to tell him: "You're not in any trouble".
Why wasn't he in any trouble? A total stranger just called cops on him to say he'd been seen beating a female in public! Wouldn't you expect to be on the receiving end of some robust questioning, if you were the focus of a serious independent witness accusation like that?
Unbelievably, that officer accepted Gabby's self-blame and Brian's cool, 'I'm a great guy with a crazy girlfriend' schtick at face value. Law enforcement must use that damning bodycam footage as a future training tool for police, to show them how NOT to deal with a probable domestic abuse situation.
Domestic abuse is overwhelmingly male on female, and its murder victims are almost exclusively female. Of the two of them it was Gabby, not Brian, who was at potential risk of serious harm. The police have no excuses here - the crime statistics on domestic abuse are only too clear cut and unambiguous. They failed Gabby that day, and potentially missed a golden opportunity to save her life.
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@ljb8157 Your, to date, FIVE replies to my one post, each showing greater ignorance of domestic abuse than the last, are sadly too dumb to warrant serious consideration. That you can't even recognise the value of an independent, unbiased witness statement says it all! If you hold down a job, it certainly doesn't require advanced critical thinking skills.
It's been widely identified that this crime is getting enthusiastic attention from a cross section of lonely Incels, following the case from their mommys' basements. Incels strongly identify with Brian Laundrie, a loser who murdered his more attractive, popular and accomplished girlfriend because he was scared she would leave him. Laundrie is a logical poster boy for Incels because he's an unattractive Incel-type, who by some miracle snagged a cute girlfriend - then killed her. He pretty much embodies Incels' every twisted, conflicted, rage-filled emotion about females who won't fuck them.
It's fortunate this case was captured on police bodycam. That shocking footage not only exposed dire failings in law enforcement training for handling domestic abuse, it got Gabby Petito's murder greater publicity. Publicity will help inform and empower the overwhelmingly female victims of inadequate male narcissists like Laundrie. That will improve their chances of escaping such abusive relationships alive, as tragically Gabby did not.
Violence against women is a global pandemic far deadlier for females than Covid. In the UK alone, two women are killed every week by a male partner/ex partner. Last week a 28-year-old woman was murdered by a stranger on an early evening, 5-minute walk from her home to meet a friend for a drink. If women killed men in anything like the same numbers that men kill women, there would be frequent international debates about 'the crisis of female violence', and women would be forced to live under a curfew to keep men safe. But everywhere in the world, societies expect females to just accept that some males are inevitably violent. As toxic attitudes like yours show, often male offenders are not condemned and despised for their cowardly crimes against women, but are tacitly (and explicitly) supported.
The usual trigger for domestic murder is the woman leaving, or making moves to leave her abusive partner. These pathetic excuses for men can't take rejection, and won't let the woman leave and be happy without him. I have no doubt Brian saw Gabby slipping out of his control, leaving him and taking her van, electronic devices and money with her. Like Chris Watts before him, Laundrie's an entitled parasite, and she was carrying him every step of the way. The loser even stole from her bank account after he had killed her.
Brian Laundrie will soon be locked in the cage he'll die in. It's only a shame his Incel fan club aren't locked up with him - their hysterical, woman-hating tantrums are beyond boring!
I've been kind enough to patronise you awhile, as you're in such obvious need of an education. But as you've made abundantly clear you have nothing of value to add to this or any other thread, I can't reply again. I see you're continuing to post multiple responses to my superior posts. Your need for female affirmation is painfully obvious. Sorry Hunt, no dice!
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@claytondavis7415 Police stopped the van because they had received not one but two independent witness 911 reports of HIM hitting HER. Therefore it is appalling that those officers not only failed to question Brian Laundrie about those very serious allegations of his violence against Gabby, they incorrectly identified him as the victim just because he had marks on his face!
Police should know male domestic abusers often have such marks on their face and body - they indicate he recently attacked a female and she defended herself the only way she could, lashing out with her hands. Those marks were clues to HIS abuse! Cops of all people should know this stuff. That they don't reveals their training in this area is totally inadequate and must be improved.
Domestic abuse victims are overwhelmingly female and perpetrators are male. And domestic abuse homicide victims are almost exclusively female. Again, police should know this. It was therefore Gabby, not Brian, who was at risk of serious harm and who deserved support and help as the victim - while as perpetrator, he deserved to be arrested and questioned about those two witness reports. People do not dial 911 for no reason!
Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd slammed his police colleagues, saying they had ample reason to arrest Laundrie for domestic abuse that day. If they had, and he'd been reprimanded, I doubt the coward would have been so quick to put his hands on her again.
Instead the cops totally messed it up, treating him like an old pal, and driving him to a hotel for a cosy night of Netflix. In effect, police endorsed his abuse, with the effect he felt emboldened to not only continue his physical attacks on Gabby, but to escalate them to her murder just two weeks later.
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@looking4things669 Agreed, Sheriff Grady Judd actually represents Polk County, Florida, but was appalled at his colleagues' bungling of the Brian Laundrie case, as revealed on that damning bodycam footage. When reporters asked for his opinion, true to form he didn't hold back and let them have it! Good for him - he is too principled to cover for colleagues when they mess-up with such tragic consequences for a young woman.
Sheriff Judd is a fine, upstanding law enforcement officer, with enough experience and wisdom to recognise the MO of a manipulative abuser like Brian Laundrie in nanoseconds. As he made clear, he would not be taken in by Laundrie's 'nice guy act', as his dumb colleagues were. You would not have seen that guy fist-bumping the creep!
Sheriff Grady said he would have arrested Brian Laundrie on the roadside and taken him into custody on suspicion of domestic abuse - after two independent 911 witness reports of him hitting Gabby, there were ample grounds to do just that. People do not dial 911 for no damn reason - and they certainly would not have called police to report a slight blonde woman slapping a man, as Laundrie's supporters are ludicrously claiming!
I believe this case could have ended very differently, if police had not missed a golden opportunity to confront a cowardly woman abusing loser with his totally unacceptable crimes against Gabby Petito. Had Brian Laundrie been taken into custody in handcuffs, as he should have been, Gabby would have had to tell her parents how his abuse was escalating on the road trip. I think that would likely have meant third party involvement (ie her family staging an intervention to get her home), the end of the van life project - and Gabby's ultimate survival.
If police were properly trained in the realities of domestic abuse they would know victims defend their abuser - that's to be expected. And that's why, when the victim won't confront the abuser (for all kinds of reasons that seem valid to them at the time), law enforcement MUST do just that. Far too many women are dying horrific premature deaths at the hands of abusers like Brian Laundrie.
Incidentally, Sheriff Judd went even further in criticising his fellow police officers. He said had he been in charge of this case, there's no way Brian Laundrie would have had the opportunity to leave his parents' house and go on the run, after Gabby Petito was reported missing! He argued as soon as Laundrie returned home in Gabby's van without her, police should have taken him into custody. Most people would agree 100%.
Once Laundrie is dragged from his auntie's spare room by the scruff of his scrawny neck (or wherever the loser is hiding), the Keystone Cops have some serious questions to answer about their bungling of this entire case!
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@carolarico3451 Yes, it's sadly all too obvious the victim-blamers are commenting from a position of breathtaking ignorance, of both domestic abuse and the law!
One poster's suggestion that independent 911 witness reports can't be trusted, and could be somehow suspect or biased against the man (in this case there were two totally independent reports made to police of Brian assaulting Gabby), shows exactly how clueless some of these comments are! I mean SO ridiculously stupid, they don't warrant serious consideration.
Police pulled the van over because of those recent 911 reports of Brian's violence to his girlfriend. They did not meet the couple 'cold', with no clue that they were dealing with an allegedly abusive male. Far from it, thanks to those 911 calls, they'd been fully briefed about the likely dynamic between the pair, from two witnesses with no axe to grind. Yet at no point did the officers confront Brian about the recent, serious assault allegations against him, least of all question or challenge him about them. Why not?
The police officers have absolutely no excuse for deciding that Gabby, not Brian, was the problem partner. As professionals they should know that domestic abuse victims are overwhelmingly female, and perpetrators overwhelmingly male. Victims of domestic homicide are almost exclusively female. While it's well documented men can also be abuse victims, the abuse of males is not likely to be life-threatening, as it is for females. Oranges and apples! Therefore it was Gabby the female, not Brian the male, who was at risk of serious harm from what was quite obviously an abusive relationship. But the police totally failed to recognise this fact, prioritise Gabby as the vulnerable party, and act accordingly to support her.
There's no question cops called the relationship wrong, and as a result handled it wrong. Two weeks after the footage, the woman is dead from homicide, and the man is on the run from police. That's powerful evidence of just how badly law enforcement got it wrong!
Cops made a bad situation worse, by misidentifying the victim as the perpetrator. The latest bodycam video released from the camera/viewpoint of a different officer, shows police discussing the case together after the couple have left. Shockingly, the policeman who took the lead throughout the traffic stop, told his colleagues he '...could have put Gabby in jail', but decided not to because they were clearly 'a young couple in love'. His wildly inaccurate conclusions would be laughable, if their implications weren't so serious and ultimately tragic for Gabby. Whatever spin people try to put on the police bodycam footage, that is lousy detective work!
The officers actions only further isolated and compromised Gabby, making her more not less vulnerable to reconciling with her abuser Brian the next morning - totally on his terms. And after police had pretty much endorsed Brian's abuse of her, and he'd been repeatedly told by police: "Don't worry, you aren't in any trouble", he no doubt felt even more empowered and entitled to escalate his abuse. Her death soon afterwards, indicates he escalated it to murder.
In due course, Gabby Petito's homicide warrants a proper independent public enquiry into police mishandling of the case. Another very troubling aspect prompting widespread criticism and questions, is that Brian Laundrie was able to leave his parents' house and go underground, while his girlfriend was missing.
There also clearly needs to be an urgent, nationwide review and shake up of law enforcement's training on domestic abuse. Do police even get specialist training, in this critically important area of policing? If they do, it is inadequate in the extreme, requiring a radical overhaul.
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@ljb8157 Your multiple, victim-blaming posts are utterly ludicrous, and say more about you than anyone involved in this horrific domestic murder. Gabby Petito lies dead on a slab, her death declared a homicide, and Brian Laundrie is on the run from police. How much more evidence do dumb misogynists like you need that she was the victim, and he was the perpetrator?
The scratches seen on Brian's face in the police bodycam are typically observed on men who have recently murdered women. They indicate Gabby had recently defended herself against a violent assault by him, and that scenario is confirmed by the independent witness who called 911 that morning to report him 'slapping and hitting' her on the street. His scratches are a chilling foreshadowing of her murder two weeks later.
Brian's facial markings are an indication of his violence and abuse, and to suggest Gabby should be blamed for defending herself against her soon-to-be killer (or even arrested, as some cretin stated), is some warped and weird misogyny.
You talk about 'the whole story', as if there's another side to this - it's clear you are seeking to justify Brian Laundrie's actions in abusing and finally killing his girlfriend. I've got news for you - there is none. No man has the right to put his hands on a woman, least of all kill her. Your posts represent the tragic Incels who are drawn to this case, because they regard nerdy, inadequate Brian Laundrie as some kind of hero. I'm beyond bored of your trolling. Is 'Hunt' your name, or just rhyming slang?! You are dismissed, Hunt.
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@Mo-pm2oi Excellent post! The tragic homicide of Gabby Petito, and the escalating domestic abuse leading up to it captured on police bodycam, shows there is a widespread reluctance on the part of men to confront other men over their abuse. Police were totally ineffectual in their interactions with a man recently reported in two 911 calls, for violence to a woman. Why? This has to change!
Above all this tragic case shows far better training in domestic abuse is needed for law enforcement officers across the US. I believe with proper training and education in the typical MO of abusers (and the predictable reactions of their victims), those cops would have handled Brian Laundrie and Gabby Petito VERY differently.
That cowardly punk Laundrie needed to be confronted over his offending - and as Sheriff Grady Judd pointed out, after TWO independent 911 reports of him hitting Gabby, there was ample reason to arrest him at the roadside and take him into custody for domestic abuse. Instead those police did an old pals act with him, telling him he 'wasn't in any trouble (why the hell not?), fist bumping him, and driving him to a cosy hotel for the night. Why didn't they suck his dick while they were about it?!
In befriending Brian, those dumb police in effect endorsed his abuse of Gabby, making him feel empowered and entitled to not only continue his abuse when they were reunited next morning, but to escalate it to her murder two weeks later.
Had police treated Brian Laundrie like the law breaking domestic abuser he is and taken him into custody, Gabby would have had to tell her parents about his escalating abuse. That would likely have triggered a third party intervention by her family (decent people who love her very much and were unaware of Brian's abuse), the end of the van life project - and Gabby's safe return home. Police could have saved her life that day, had they only handled this in the right way and not been so damn concerned to let a male abuser off the hook.
Decent men like Sheriff Judd and Derek Van Shaik can call out the abuse of scumbags like Brian Laundrie - but a worrying percentage of males will not, and fall over themselves in these comments to make excuses for a scumbag who strangled a 22-year-old woman to death. That is every bit as troubling as the murder itself!
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@gabriel39495 In fact there were not one but two two independent 911 witness reports of Brian slapping and hitting Gabby, and cops were aware of both. That's strong corroborating evidence of HIS abuse.
The ignorant assumptions about domestic abuse you're describing. are sadly all-too common among the general public. It's high time people were better educated, to recognise the red flags of abusers like Brian and escape them..
But police are professionals, dealing with these toxic relationships every day. It's frankly shocking that the bodycam footage revealed such huge inadequacies in their domestic abuse training. They should know better and do better, than to simply accept what the victim and abuser tell them at face value!
It was very predictable Gabby would cover for Brian. Victims frequently collude with and protect their abuser, not wanting to get him in trouble/arrested, officers should have expected that and viewed it with healthy scepticism. And Brian was bound to look after number one, like the extreme covert narcissist he is. That's the standard victim/abuser dynamic. Yet clearly cops didn't know that, weren't familiar with the standard behaviours, and totally believed both Gabby and Brian's acts!
No wonder Brian was grinning broadly at the end of the video. He had totally fooled those police officers with his meek, cooperative 'good guy' act, and manipulated their perceptions to such a degree thatthey actually thought his victim was the perpetrator. That was a disastrous and very basic mistake by law enforcement! This footage needs to be used in future to better train all police on domestic abuse cases - including the men in the video.
Police only made a bad situation worse. Had they handled this encounter very differently, correctly identified the victim and the perpetrator and treated them accordingly, Gabby might well be alive today. If I were her parents, I would be utterly enraged at those police officers.
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@Sassfire Spot on! I think that's an excellent point - the van life project only succeeded in exposing Brian to Gabby for the abusive loser he is. And at last (very belatedly), she realised she could not plan a long-term future with him.
Prior to her murder, Gabby had been living with Brian at his parents' house for around 2 years I think. This of course gave him even more status and power over her - it's crystal clear how his parents prioritise and perhaps idolise him, and how he became such a toxic narcissist.
I suspect living with Brian's parents kept Gabby in that bad relationship, and allowed him to extend his control and influence over her in that privileged living situation, longer than would be the case had she lived independently of him.
It's well known how abusers quickly set about isolating the victim from her support network of family and friends. Gabby moved many miles away from hers, to live with him in his parents' home. She was very vulnerable to his gas-lighting here. When the full details of this appalling crime are revealed I believe we'll hear her family and friends had deep reservations about her relationship, and had seen worrying changes in her behaviour.
I think Brian was rapidly eroding her natural spark, effervescence and confidence. She was quick to blame herself on the bodycam, for her behaviour - failing to see it was Brian who was making her so unhappy. That is classic abuse, the victim gets so brainwashed and confused by the perpetrator, they blame themselves for his nasty conduct!
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BINGO! Great post. Covert narcs like Brian Laundrie are chameleon-like. They learn young that they are not like other people, with their healthy emotions and thought processes. So they learn how to fake the ability to love and care about others. And by faking it, they can successfully attract genuine, big-hearted people like Gabby and have close relationships with them. But because they care only for themselves, any such close relationship is a sham, and built on a lie.
You can see on the police bodycam Brian is a two-faced fraud, who treats people only in terms of what they can do for him. He would never do anyone a good turn unless there was something in it for him. The way he smarms up to the cops by playing the hapless 'nice guy', is utterly sickening. I can't believe they fell for it!
Those cops didn't even confront him about the independent witness who rang 911 to report he had assaulted Gabby that morning - the reason they were pulling the van over! No wonder he was laughing at the end of the bodycam footage, as he was driven off to spend the night in a comfortable hotel. He totally fooled them! Meanwhile poor Gabby was having to drive herself away (after saying she wasn't confident at the wheel), to spend the night alone in the van. Brian must have felt fully confident Gabby would be even more vulnerable to reconciling with him next morning, totally on his terms. Police only made a bad situation worse!
I read that the lead cop in the bodycam video is now off work while the footage is reviewed and a decision is taken by his bosses on his conduct. No doubt he'll face no consequences - cops look after their own. Meanwhile Gabby lays dead on a cold mortuary slab, aged 22. Police missed a golden opportunity to save her. If those officers received any training at all on domestic abuse, it was woefully inadequate!
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@juliettelex7597 The male 911 caller, an independent witness with no reason to lie, reported what he saw - a man 'slapping and hitting' a woman.
It's hardly surprising Brian Laundrie had facial scratches. Those kinds of minor injuries are commonly sustained by domestic abusers, during assaults on women. It's the obvious though sadly ineffective way females defend themselves from violent men. Those marks are also nearly always found and photographed on domestic killers, after they have murdered their female victim.
Instead of focusing on Brian and his minor scratches, police should have checked the victim Gabby for injuries and asked her if Brian had hurt her. Not only was she identified by the 911 caller as the victim and Brian the aggressor, as the woman it was she, not he, who was at risk of serious harm. Her murder by Brian less than 2 weeks later, tragically confirms this.
Domestic abusers are overwhelmingly male, and their victims overwhelmingly female. Police above anyone, should know that, and treat couples like Gabby and Brian accordingly. All they succeeded in doing was further isolating Gabby by sending her off to spend the night alone in her van, and endorsing Brian's abuse by telling him he wasn't in any trouble and being crazily pally with him. This '60 Minutes' report from Australia features excellent analysis of the bodycam footage from a criminal profiler. That professional's verdict is clear - police totally fucked it up! https://youtu.be/A4DeSl8QGD4
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@looking4things669 Amen. You're absolutely right, Sheriff Grady Judd is a fine example to all cops. One thing is certain, the Brian Laundrie calamity would never have happened on his watch!
Law enforcement must learn lessons from this monumental F-up. Thank God the bodycam video exists to expose it, or there would be an even bigger cover up than it appears is happening now, with the re-writing of one witness statement. Seems the shit's hitting the fan big time for the cops in that bodycam footage, as it absolutely should!
Unfortunately there is an historic culture of men protecting other men, when they make mistakes. That warped culture thrives in macho organisations like the police, and goes some way to explain those officers' inappropriate support for domestic abuse suspect Brian Laundrie.
Decent, strong men with nothing to prove (and no skeletons in their own closet), call out substandard males like Brian Laundrie. We've seen that in the no nonsense condemnation of both Laundrie and the police, from Sheriff Judd and from commentators like Vinnie Politan and Derek Van Shaik.
Predictably, we've also seen the opposite - excuses for men like the idiot who keeps spouting bullshit in this thread. Misogynists, Incels and inadequate males generally, will try any ruse however ridiculous, to defend killer Brian Laundrie and the cops who let him off the hook. There's no point in responding to those losers - they don't believe their own illogical, misogynist garbage, any more than anyone else does! They're ridiculous.
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@patmacrotch5611 Cops cannot be expected to be mind readers and I recognise domestic situations are complex. But with better training on abusive relationships like this one, I believe they would have handled it very differently.
The police made the fundamental mistake of failing to identify Gabby as a victim and Brian as a perpetrator. That is basic stuff! No, they should not have taken Gabby's silence about the abuse at face value. Her clear distress - and his cool, calm demeanour, spoke volumes about the reality of this toxic relationship and her abuse within it.
A missing piece of bodycam footage from that incident has just been released. It shows Gabby telling the officer Brian hit her (as he knew had been confirmed by the recent, independent 911 witness report), but she quickly retracts it. That should have been recognised by the officer as very significant.
Yet police never once confronted or questioned Brian about the 911 allegation that he 'slapped and hit' Gabby on the street. Why not? The truth is, these cops called it wrong right down the line, with the result they made the woman more vulnerable and the man more empowered. No wonder Brian was grinning broadly as he was driven off to spend a comfortable night in a hotel. He sure did a number on those cops, the same as he had on his girlfriend. Like a typical abuser, he's a master manipulator.
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@claytondavis7415 I suggest you read my previous posts again, and try harder to focus this time. I've fully explained where the police officers went wrong. I'm not the only one to deduce that, many other intelligent men and women agree - and even senior law enforcement officer Sheriff Grady Judd condemned police inaction against Brian Laundrie.
You're confused about a great many aspects of this case. Police did not randomly stop the van - they stopped it due to two 911 witness reports of Brian Laundrie hitting Gabby Petito. Therefore they were well aware that he, not she, was the perpetrator of domestic abuse.
What's more, as the female, it was Gabby not Brian at risk of serious harm or worse. Females are overwhelmingly the victims of domestic abuse, and males overwhelmingly the abusers. More to the point, the victims of domestic murder, are almost exclusively women. Police above all, should be aware of these facts!
People don't dial 911 for no reason. Nor do they call 911 on seeing a slight woman hit a man - Get real! Everyone but the most obtuse misogynist knows exactly what happened here - Gabby's homicide by Laundrie two weeks later proves it.
I've tried to educate you, but it's now totally clear you have no interest in anything that blows your dumb misogyny out the water. Seriously - find something more useful to do with your time than sucking Brian Laundrie's undersized dick. You are dismissed!
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@cmont4064 Yep Brian wouldn't want other men to know the van belongs to Gabby, because that goes dangerously close to his true identity as an inadequate parasite who still lives at home with mommy & daddy, never held down a job and pimps off his girlfriend. If the truth about who he is emerged, it would emasculate him!
He's created a false persona and values for himself to explain away his obvious lack of achievements at age 23. He claims to be anti technology because it's another way for him to claim the moral high ground and fake superiority over others. Yet he's more than happy to help himself to Gabby's phone and computer - and her money too, as we discovered when he emptied her bank account of $1,000 after killing her.
He loved being in the driving seat of that van, literally and metaphorically, and used it as a weapon against her. Locking her out of it as punishment for saying or doing something that displeased him was one of many red flags to his abuse that cops missed. On a long road trip, the vehicle assumes central importance as your home, security and protection. For one person to hold control over the keys and deprive the other one from entering is a big power trip and very sinister.
I think a road trip like that could make or break any couple. Brian was likely stressed and out of his depth, away from his over-indulgent parents for the first time in his life. I think he was struggling without their emotional and practical support, and his abuse escalated to an horrific degree - culminating in her murder. The sooner that evil POS is caught and locked in the cage he'll die in, the better!
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@claudiafelicescheuerer463 Absolutely right, and you make a very important point. Physically leaving an abuser must be planned like a military operation! Many women are murdered as they leave, or after their abuser tracked them down to their new destination. The end of the relationship is the most high-risk time for the abuse victim, and statistics prove it's a common trigger for murder. Such men do not handle rejection well.
Brian Laundrie's control issues suggest he feared Gabby's rejection throughout their relationship. I think he persuaded her to move in with him at his parents' house to keep control over her. And the road trip escalated his control, with just the two of them cut off from the world sharing a tiny living space.
Brian has never lived independently of his parents at 23, and there's no record of any proper career in the real world (calling himself an artist does not count!) He's unusually 'stuck' and dependant, for a man in his early twenties. Gabby paid for the van trip and pretty much everything else herself, by working hard waiting tables.
I think there's every chance mommy's-boy Brian was stressed on the road, without the constant proximity of his parents' practical and emotional support. This and his existing narcissism issues, meant his abuse of Gabby escalated to her murder. He was the last person she should have done the 'Van Life' project with! It's horrific how vulnerable she was, trapped alone in a small vehicle with a highly toxic and dangerous sociopath. In that set up she literally had no one to turn to.
That poor young woman, you can see from her extreme distress on the police bodycam how serious and sinister his abuse of her had become. Yet police failed to recognise what was going on, and support her. It breaks my heart her promising young life is over, when it had barely begun. She had so much wonderful potential, and so many profound experiences ahead of her. All stolen from her by a ruthlessly self-centred jerk.
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@shilohaugust6749 You're clearly confused. This is not a court of law, where the presumption of innocence is king. If Brian Laundrie is charged with a crime relating to the homicide of Gabby Petito, he will receive a full and fair trial and the full benefit of that presumption of innocence.
This is a true crime discussion forum, where free speech reigns and people can share opinions, theories and beliefs about all aspects of crimes - including the innocence or guilt of an individual. The strict rules and protocol of the courtroom and due process do not apply on social media. If that offends you, perhaps you shouldn't be here?
It's baffling you think there's 'not one ounce of proof' Brian Laundrie murdered Gabby Petito, when the circumstantial evidence against him indicating just that is stacking up, every day he remains on the run from police! Circumstantial evidence IS evidence - and in fact can be far more compelling than forensic evidence. As a police officer, you should know that.
Gabby Petito was last seen alive with her partner Brian Laundrie. They had a confirmed history of domestic abuse, recently involving police. The last sighting of them was in a restaurant, where he was fighting with staff, and she was in tears.
Laundrie returned to his parents' home in Gabby's van, without her - contrary to the couple's stated plans. He immediately hired a lawyer and refused to speak to police or the distraught Petito family about her whereabouts. He then went missing. Gabby's body was subsequently discovered dumped on park land. The coroner ruled it a homicide.
All of the above is circumstantial evidence, pointing to Brian Laundrie having murdered Gabby Petito. If he emerges from his hiding place alive, I'll bet you £1,000 he's charged with her murder. Make it £10,000 if you like! And people are not charged with murder with 'not one ounce of proof'.
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