Glamdolly
Derek Van Schaik
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Comments by "Glamdolly" (@glamdolly30) on "Watch How Chris Watts, Family Murderer, Gets Caught Lying AGAIN, Now In His Full Detailed Confession" video.
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Agreed, very smart deduction. The only thing we can be sure of, is that Chris Watts has not yet told the whole truth about that night, and he never will. But unfortunately I believe we'll hear more of his murder stories before he dies.
All three versions he has told to date have been self serving in various respects. I will never believe he did not kill all three victims inside the house behind 4 walls, like almost every other cowardly family annihilator. The driveway video shows him taking three dead, not live victims to his truck IMO.
Shanann's father Frank was right in his courtroom victim impact statement when he told Watts: "I watched you carry them out like trash". At no point did CW or his team contradict a word of the prosecution's assertion he killed them all inside the family home.
There is no logical reason for CW to delay the children's murders as he claims. Indeed there's much more reason to believe he killed Bella and Cece first, before Shanann got home. He couldn't stand 'Those girls', as he kept calling them in horrible, distancing language. I think he was excited about his long-held 'D-Day' coming round and probably wanted to 'start the ball rolling', suffocating them on their mattresses soon after putting them to bed.
It would explain why Shanann said he sounded 'annoyed' when she told him of her very inconvenient, 3 hour flight delay - it was too late for him to postpone the mission and do it when he had more time, because he'd already killed the children.
And why did he tell his mistress in that late night, 111 minute call, that he'd washed his little girls' sheets, and that they "Stank"? It's suspicious he was laundering their bedclothes before Shanann came home. Did Bella, who'd suffered a violent struggle, and didn't wear nappies, defecate as she died?
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@jackiec1586 I'm a newspaper journalist of 30 years experience and have studied many family annihilations. I see no realistic prospect of any scenario other than he committed all three murders inside the home, like 99% of family annihilators. Chris Watts isn't especially unique, in fact he's quite typical of the breed. They are generally covert narcissists, whose friends and neighbours will say: "I can't believe it, he wouldn't hurt a fly".
It's well known Chris Watts' parents and sister monitor online true crime and update him on the latest talk about him. They no doubt tipped him off about the so-called 'shadows theory' that he took a live child from the house. He liked it so much, he went one better and claimed to have taken BOTH children to Cervi 319 alive and murdered them there. No sighting of a second 'child's shadow' on the video or anything else to support CW's claim!
I believe he belatedly endorsed the 'shadows theory' a full six months after his murder convictions for several, self serving reasons. First he was bored pacing his cage after 6 months and wanted attention and headlines. He had agreed to collaborate with (now discredited) Cheryln Cadle on a book, and knew he must offer her 'new and exclusive' material in order to sell it (though she did such a lazy job, there's barely anything original in that self-published, plagiarised joke of a 'book').
Most important, I think Chris Watts wanted to do PR for himself, by pretending the murders were chaotic, disorganised, and he wasn't in his right mind. As he kept telling visiting detectives last year: "I didn't know what I was doing".
Obviously, to let two small, unpredictable children run riot outside your house to wake neighbours as you're taking their dead mother's corpse to your truck would be an act of madness. But Chris Watts wasn't mad - he was in his right mind and fully in control throughout the murders. That's why he would never have let Bella and Cece loose to mess up his carefully premeditated murder plans like that.
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@jessicascuderi3157 Great post, yes, Nickole and Nate show that the most seemingly ordinary people can be utterly extraordinary when the chips are down.
Nickole went with her woman's intuition and alerted police, even as Chris Watts was calling her cell phone and telling her not to. Females have an innate, inner alarm system to keep us and our vulnerable children/loved ones safe. It rarely if ever steers us wrong and we ignore it at our peril, as this case reminds us!
Chris Watts' hostile body language towards his wife's friend when he arrived at the house was chilling - if looks could kill! And we know if she hadn't called cops but had turned up to his house alone, he was perfectly capable of killing her too, to silence her.
Nate wasn't fooled by his neighbour's big handshake and 'bumbling, harmless family guy' act. Nate is what Chris Watts pretended to be, but never was - a genuine, decent, loving husband and father. I reckon that's why ultimately Nate smelled a rat about Chris Watts. Nate IS the genuine article and knew how he would behave if his wife and kids disappeared out of the blue, so he saw a mile off that Chris Watts wasn't acting in any way like a genuinely concerned, innocent man.
I so wish Shanann had met and married a 'Nate' kind of guy, and never had the misfortune to be fooled into marriage and kids by evil psychopath Chris Watts. How different her fate would have been.
I sometimes imagine Shanann alive and well in a parallel universe where she never even heard the name Chris Watts. I can see her as a happy wife and mother with a loving husband who is as attractive and likeable as herself. They are known in the community as a great couple, upbeat and dynamic with shared love of family, quick wits and sunny personalities. He clearly respects and adores her, thanking his lucky stars every day that he met and married his soul mate. That is the happy, fulfilled life Shanann fully deserved and should be living today. Tragically it was not to be, and no amount of wishing can turn the clock back to change it.
For me, a famous poem by John Greenleaf Whittier sums it up:
"Of all sad words of tongue or pen,
The saddest are these: It might have been".
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@juanitarichards1074 I think you're right, the fact all the windows were shut at the house casts serious doubt on his story about Shanann. I think he's snide and got a kick out of saying she stank like a skunk - if you recall he also embellished and claimed the children had noticed a bad smell from their mother's body in the back of the truck. He's despicable.
Thanks - it's yet more evidence, were it needed, that Chris Watts is a totally self serving, immoral slimeball, to whom lies come much more readily than the truth.
When you are honest and decent by inclination, it's very, very difficult to get your head round a killer as warped as Chris Watts - and his creepy family too, come to that.
This is why I regularly encounter people who've swallowed his garbage about taking the children to Cervi 319 alive, unquestioningly. It's not their fault - they aren't psychopaths, so struggle to compute that these freaks exist and appear as unremarkable and ordinary as Chris Watts! If only they had horns and a tail, then poor Shanann and everyone else who's fallen victim to one would have a chance to escape them unscathed.
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This was a superb, fresh and insightful analysis of this well-trod crime Derek - Bravo! As a British journalist who has studied this case inside out, it takes a lot to impress me!
I trust you'll be applying the same, razor sharp powers of deduction (and bullshit detection) on Chris Watts' supposed 'confession' regarding the children. I don't believe for a nanosecond he took Bella and Cece from the house alive. He had no earthly reason to delay the children's murders, least of all to kill them at a far riskier, outdoor works location.
Chris Watts' latest tale to visiting detectives in February 2019 was inspired by the so-called 'shadows theory' pushed by clickbait YouTubers, which his family tipped him off about. The Watts family monitor social media true crime gossip and update CW on the latest theories about him. He liked the 'shadows theory', the far-fetched idea that a live child's shadow can be seen on the driveway footage, and decided to endorse it a full six months after his murder convictions. He was bored in his cell and wanted attention and headlines. He even went one better that the clickbait YouTubers, claiming he took not one but BOTH children to Cervi 319 alive. As if! The clickbait gossips couldn't find a second 'child's shadow' or any evidence to support his claim.
In all probability Chris Watts killed the children first, and confirming the 'shadows theory' was a way for him to distract people from this ugly truth. There were many indications Bella and Cece were suffocated to death in their beds, not least the fact cadaver dogs alerted to this in both rooms. In his 111 minute, late night phone chat with his mistress, he mentioned laundering the girls' bedsheets which, he told her, "Stank". Why would he be laundering their bedding so late and why would it smell bad - did Bella (who suffered a violent struggle and didn't wear a nappy), defecate as her father killed her?
Shanann told a friend CW sounded 'annoyed' when she called that evening to tell him about her 3 hour flight delay. He likely WAS annoyed because he had already killed the children, so couldn't postpone the murders to another night when he had more time. As you identified in this video, he was in a hurry to get the crime done and dump the bodies at Cervi before sun up, so that was his sole focus.
There simply wasn't time for all the claims he made about having sex with his wife, sleeping, fighting with her, 'killing' the children twice (because an early attempt to suffocate them supposedly failed), etc, etc. I believe Sunday night/Monday morning was only about carrying out his long-plotted family murder, and arriving at work unruffled and smiling, like nothing happened. He was a man on a mission - that why he wouldn't have let two traumatised little girls run riot outside his house and wake neighbours, as he was loading their pregnant mother's corpse into his truck. The driveway video shows him loading dead, not live victims into his truck.
Thanks for pointing out the cruel, arrogant nonsense of his claim Shanann did not fight for her or her babies' lives as he strangled her. As her father Frank pointed out, she adored her children and would have fought Chris Watts "like a tiger" had she known his murderous intentions towards them. It's obvious there isn't a mark on him because he pinned down her arms with his strong legs - Shanann had long nails but clearly didn't have a chance to use them!
I'm convinced like most cowardly family annihilators, he killed all three victims inside the house behind 4 walls, where they couldn't summon help and he wouldn't be witnessed and unmasked as a killer. The February 2019 audio is littered with clues he's inventing the story about taking the children to Cervi 319 alive, and killing them there.
He tells several specific tall tales and embellishments designed to distract from or explain away the evidence of what really happened. For example he says both girls were quiet and slept on the journey to Cervi 319 - but is that likely? He told cops whenever he fetched them from kindergarten they would cry for their mom all the way home. Chris Watts knew that route to Cervi very well and that it featured many road cameras positioned at the various traffic lights - if both girls were dead, saying they were asleep would explain why they could not be seen on any images taken en route.
Then there's his dumb story about covering Shanann's face and feet with two black plastic refuse sacks in the back of the truck, so Bella and Cece wouldn't be upset at seeing their dead mother. He was about to kill them both - why would he care about their feelings? That story was an obvious ruse to explain away the two black refuse sacks police recovered floating around the Cervi oil fields after the murders, which had contained the girls' corpses and were a smoking gun they had left the house dead, not alive.
I'm curious to find out how many red flags YOU identified that he's making up this version of the children's murders as he goes along!
He stammers and gets muddled when he lies - he also gets snappy with detectives and is evasive when they try to press him on details that don't make sense or require further clarification. He says he both strangled and smothered the children. He recycles elements of his first, partial confession, when he stole Agent Tammy Lee's story that Shanann had killed the children. Back then he told cops his wife had strangled both girls and that in a rage: "I did to Shanann what she just did to the girls". This almost exact same sentence comes up again when he describes murdering Cece in front of Bella. He claims Bella asked him: "Are you going to do to me what you just did to Cece?" Sound familiar? That's not even a phrase that would come from the lips of a 4 year old!
CW also states he will never forget Bella's last words to him, which he tells us were: "Daddy - No!" Then a few moments later he quotes her last words as "No - Daddy!" So which was it, Chris? You said you'd never forget, but it seems you already did!
In practical terms it would be very hard to get sufficient traction to suffocate two tiny, wriggly 3 and 4 year olds as they sat upright on a vehicle's bench seat, using a child's fleece blanket. Bella's post mortem injuries to her mouth - torn frenulum and repeated bites to her tongue - are consistent with heavy downward pressure from a strong, bare hand, while she lay horizontal on a bed, not an upright, seated attack with a soft blanket.
Looking forward to the second part of this video with high hopes!
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@juanitarichards1074 Thank God you did. I've been stunned by your story before, and your impressive strength in helping others affected too.
Your always insightful comments on videos like this one help many, many people. Knowledge is power - it's crucial there's a platform to discuss and analyse the M.O. of abusers like Chris Watts, so the red flags can be recognised. I believe there will have been many, many red flags in his behaviour during the 8 years Shanann spent with him. A man couldn't be capable of committing and immediately shrugging off the obscene crimes he did, without being seriously out of step with emotionally-functioning people in a million different ways!
I thought this was an impressive video, did you? I've watched so much content about this crime, it's rare to come across anything original. But his insights were sharp and strongly expressed, and the editing was brilliantly done. The 'jump cuts' from that empty house on 13th August 2018 to it's previous glory as a family home with Shanann and the girls running round it, were heart-stopping and starkly showed the tragedy before your eyes.
The victim-blamers should think about Shanann's house standing cold, empty and silent on Christmas Day, when once it rang to the sounds of laughter, children playing, and a kitchen bustling with warmth and home-cooked food. Just too sad for words!
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@kdfulton3152 I agree, you're spot on. Agent Tammy Lee was absolutely right when she told CW before his (failed) polygraph test "You're a terrible liar!" I'm amazed anyone believed that crazy fiction he told visiting detectives last year. You could practically hear his brain cells straining under the pressure of making it up as he went along!
His fabricated tale of murdering his two children on the back seat of his truck at Cervi was especially unconvincing. Because he isn't bright and has no empathy, he's very bad at inventing dialogue. So his accounts of statements the victims supposedly made to him that night, never ring true. And he recycles old lies!
Remember his first fake account of the murders, in which he claimed he strangled Shanann only, after she had strangled the children? In the police interrogation room he told his dad Ronnie: "I did to her what she just did to the kids".
Fast forward to his new, February 2019 version of the murders with gratuitous, horrific embellishments. He claims after killing Cece in his truck in front of Bella, Bella said to him: "Are you going to do to me what you just did to Cece?" Sound familiar?
And he claimed he'd never forget Bella's last words, saying they were "Daddy - no!" before later contradicting himself and saying they were: "No - daddy!" HUH?! You said you'd never forget them Chris, but you already did!
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