Comments by "Glamdolly" (@glamdolly30) on "Adoptive Parents Charged with Murder of Cal City Toddlers" video.

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  3. All will be revealed at trial and it will no doubt be proved beyond a reasonable doubt by a compelling combination of forensic and circumstantial evidence. That the prosecution are sure the boys were murdered way back in September, three months before they were reported missing, is in itself damning. It shows there is no proof of life for Cincere and Classic, beyond September 2020 - no photos of them, no sightings of them by friends, family, neighbours, no attendance at playschools or even on local CCTV etc etc. Police will have trawled hours and hours of CCTV and found a point at which the West family outings no longer feature their two youngest adopted children. That alone is a big clue to the date of the murders! The allegation they were murdered in September shows they died when the Wests were living at their previous Bakersfield address NOT the house from which Trezell West claimed they both wandered out of a gate as he was collecting firewood (a likely story!) Forensic experts will have examined that previous Bakersfield address in detail, and likely found evidence of violence/foul play, eg trace amounts of the childrens' blood after a clean up by their killers. No doubt the house move itself - which prosecutors believe occurred after the murders - was an attempt to escape justice. The trial will also feature evidence from the older four children living in the West family home. The indictment document is in the public domain, and it tells some of the story. It alleges the Wests ordered the older children to participate in acts of violence against the two, now (allegedly) deceased youngest children. It also alleges the Wests threatened witnesses not to give evidence against them - very likely, those four children. If Trezell and Jacqueline West are innocent, they should be confident and welcoming this trial, when they can prove it - not standing in court in matching grey pyjamas looking like terrified rabbits caught in the headlights! Let them have their 'day in court' and give evidence in their own defence, if they can prove the kids went missing from their yard - or were ever living at that new address - they have no problem!
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  19.  @Liz_H9319  Thank you for confirming my understanding of the different paternity of these murdered babies - as I made clear in my earlier post, I wasn't 100% sure. I referenced it not to stigmatise the innocent children (all of whom are perfect, and born to this world by miracles, whatever their imperfect parents' circumstances), but for clarity on the complete cast of people who played a role in their ultimate tragedy (in this case not one but two biological fathers). I think clarity in the circumstances in which this horrific double child murder was possible is critical, don't you? My priority is justice for two murdered children. And justice doesn't only mean a criminal prosecution for their murderers, but a frank and open public enquiry into the full facts of the case. That means a 360 degree study of everyone involved, including the three biological parents the CPS and the entire fostering and adoption protocols which somehow went so disastrously awry for Cincere and Classic. Why were these little boys removed from their blood family and given to the Wests, allegedly deeply dangerous people? Only a forensic investigation can satisfy all who care about child protection, to ensure that everything humanly possible has been done to stop it happening to another child. I feel very strongly that the priority here should be giving a voice at last, to the two voiceless, entirely defenceless little boys who died cruel premature deaths at 3 and 4 - not covering up the inadequacies of the many people who failed them in their short and tragic lives. Talk of 'absent fathers' may be entirely appropriate. That said, I accept your point that it's too soon to point the finger and name specific individuals who failed these vulnerable infants, until a full, wide-ranging enquiry is completed. Hopefully the killers of Cincere and Classic are now behind bars, and justice will be done to ensure they can never harm another child. But what a terrible, additional disservice it would be to the infant boys so cruelly taken from this world, if ALL who played a role in their ultimate tragedy are not held accountable. It's too early to say exactly who those people are. Child Protection Services, who literally handed the infant siblings to their alleged killers (already fully occupied with FOUR children by the way, two of them adopted), are surely culpable. From what I've seen of Trezell and Jacqueline West they are textbook, manipulative abusers, who knew exactly how to behave and play the system for their own ends (ie easy cash). These two alleged child murders may expose the need for better training of social workers to recognise narcissistic abusers, and block them from accessing the children they see as meal tickets. The abusers' M.O. is all too predictable, as multiple violent crimes confirm! I've read that Trezell West's mother Wanda has a long professional history/connections employed in some capacity by the Child Welfare System. Was she adept at playing that system primarily for money, not the love of children - passing on her cynical skills to her son Trezell? There's no evidence Trezell West or indeed his wife Jacqueline had - or needed any kind of jobs paying for their comfortable lifestyles! What you say about the biological father being 'willing' to take on both boys (including the one who was not his biological son), with the help of his mother, should be properly investigated as part of a major, thorough and totally transparent public inquiry into this child protection failure/scandal. As we know, hindsight is a wonderful thing. That one father's claims, history and personal circumstances must be thoroughly checked out. No one's story in this scandal - including the paid officials - can be accepted at face value! Now the ugly truth about Cincere and Classic's terrible fate is beginning to emerge, the accusations will be flying thick and fast from all directions. It may well be hard to sort the fact from fiction. But for their sakes and the sakes of all infants who will follow in their footsteps, the truth of this tragedy - and how it could have been avoided - must be found. If even one child's life can be saved as a result of lessons learned from these babies' murders, I can think of no better, or more noble legacy for their beautiful souls.
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