Comments by "Charles Eye" (@TheCharleseye) on "Firefighters concerned with lithium-ion battery fires" video.

A. The report didn't say anything about liquid fuel, which makes sense since this story isn't about liquid fuel. It's actually pretty weird that you're bringing it up. It's almost like you're personally offended, or something. B. Most of the things we own that use Lithium batteries, don't have liquid fuel alternatives. I've never seen a gas-powered phone, laptop, tablet, compact drill, circular saw, impact driver, etc. Also, very few people actually own the current version of EVs - that have Lithium batteries in them - and most never will, so there's another non-issue. EV adoption really doesn't have a chance of picking up steam until they at least have stable, solid-state batteries, that have much better range and are a lot more affordable to replace. C. I've seen authentic battery packs from nearly every major tool brand go up in flames. These are companies that use 18650 and 21700 cells made by Sony and Samsung (the two top brands for these kinds of cells). It's not about "cheap Asian knockoffs" (amusing, considering nearly all of these types of cells are made in Asia). It's about these batteries having a shelf life and a relatively narrow threshold for safe operating conditions. That combined with a much more volatile reaction to being pushed beyond said threshold is absolutely cause for concern to anyone with any sense. Batteries are not a new thing. Household batteries that can spontaneously combust at thousands of degrees, release huge clouds of poisonous gas, and can barely be controlled by current fire suppression methods are a pretty new thing. That's why it's newsworthy.
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@C_G1443 How many of the ICE fires are so dangerous after being put out, that tow truck companies are refusing to tow them? How many insurance companies are considering jacking prices of, or refusing policies to people who park ICE vehicles in garages? How many ICE vehicles spontaneously combust when sitting in the garage, while your family sleeps? How many ICE vehicles reignite any time within 72 hours of the first fire being put out, with little to no warning? When the batteries in most EVs are the new solid-state sodium cells, there should be a lot less to worry about (hopefully). Currently, an EV is filled with several hundred pounds of highly unstable chemicals, that burn far hotter than gasoline, and de-gas at an insane rate. This is a very loose rung on the ladder to EV success.
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@C_G1443 There have been more ICE vehicles - by several orders of magnitude - than EVs. Of course there are more instances of them catching fire. There are more instances of them doing pretty much everything. However, there's a _huge difference between an ICE fire and an EV fire. It's pretty much the difference between a Zippo and a blow torch. As for the insurance, you're wrong. They're already starting to look at such things in Europe and if you think US insurance companies aren't going to jump on the bandwagon, you've never dealt with an insurance company. They absolutely love charging extra for things, as well as making exclusions to help them keep their money.
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@C_G1443 You hadn't said anything about rates in the comment to which I responded. You said more. How embarrassing that you can't even keep track of your own statements. As for rates of EV fires decreasing, I wouldn't hold my breath. The market is about to get flooded with cheap, Chinese EVs that will cut all kinds of corners to protect the bottom line. It's going to be a lot of bad press for EVs in our 24 hour news cycle.
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Where should we be buying our Chinese trash? Or are you saying we should be buying Taiwanese trash, instead?
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