Comments by "Charles Eye" (@TheCharleseye) on "‘I’m Pissed’: Maxine Waters ‘Unhappy’ With Biden's Handling Of Haitian Migrants" video.

"What we witnessed is worse than what we witnessed in slavery." Anyone who doesn't back away from this looney after that line is out of their minds. Talk about cognitive dissonance!
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"...all they're trying to do is escape the violence in their Country." Um...They're not in their Country any more. They're in Mexico. They already found refuge. Now what they're doing is being picky about where they live. Beggars can't be choosy.
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bigbird I've got to jump in to wait for your response. I'd love to know how hitting someone with a leather strap or even pushing them down in shallow water is worse than forcing them to work in the fields all day at the end of a gun for their entire life, raping, beating, starving, and killing them. Please, I can't wait for your answer.
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Kathryn Elizabeth Ooh, swing and a miss but that was some pretty good trolling...for an amateur.
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@Ryooken The minute they landed in another Country they were...NO LONGER IN THEIR COUNTRY. They were done with the act of fleeing their Country the minute they made land elsewhere. At that point it becomes part tense: They FLED their Country. They're not seeking refuge any more because they already have that. What they're doing now is illegally migrating. How is such a simple concept so hard for so many to comprehend? If they land on our shores and ask for refugee status, that's one thing. If they land elsewhere and then decide they like our Country better, that's a different thing entirely. Beggars can't be choosy.
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@Ryooken Irrelevant. We're talking about refuge seekers, not migration. When you're fleeing a threat, you're only doing so until you're safe from that threat. Once you are safe, you don't continue to flee. The minute they were received in another Country, they were no longer fleeing the threat. They had received... (wait for it)...REFUGE. Once you have received refuge, you are no longer seeking it. At that point, if you choose to change Countries, you're doing so as a migrant, not a refuge seeker (remember, you already have refuge). In which case, you follow all of the same, legal steps as anyone else who is migrating because you are in no more danger than anyone else any more.
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@Ryooken So, when someone from Canada moves to the US (a demonstrably less safe Country) they're refuge seeking? Try again. This time, maybe without the obvious bias in your thinking. Migration is simply moving from one area to another. Seeking refuge is searching for safety. You can seek refuge in a church down the street or a police station in some cases. You cannot, however, migrate there.
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@Ryooken You just defined migration the same way I did, yet you claim I'm the one who is clueless. Yes, please keep schooling me by repeating my words back to me and claiming I didn't say them. That'll show me!
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@Ryooken You're really bad at reading. I didn't exclude either of those from the definition of migration. I merely implied that you can't conflate the two, simply because they are both forms of movement (migration) and that seeking refuge can be broken out as its own thing, because it does not automatically involve migration. migrate verb mi·grate | \ ˈmī-ˌgrāt , mī-ˈgrāt \ migrated; migrating Collegiate Definition intransitive verb 1: to move from one country, place, or locality to another //Thousands of workers migrate to this area in the summer. 2: to pass usually periodically from one region or climate to another for feeding or breeding //The whales migrate between their feeding ground in the north and their breeding ground in the Caribbean. 3: to change position or location in an organism or substance //filarial worms migrate within the human body refuge noun ref·uge | \ ˈre-(ˌ)fyüj , also -(ˌ)fyüzh \ Collegiate Definition (Entry 1 of 2) 1: shelter or protection from danger or distress 2: a place that provides shelter or protection 3: something to which one has recourse in difficulty verb refuged; refuging Collegiate Definition (Entry 2 of 2) transitive verb : to give refuge to intransitive verb : to seek or take refuge The two are not inextricably linked. They simply have some overlap. From here out, please try to only argue with things I've actually said. I'm getting sick of your strawmen - they look nothing like me.
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@Ryooken I never said any of that. Really, honestly, you NEED to work on your reading comprehension skills. All you've done is read what you wanted me to be saying into what I've actually said. Seriously. I have no reason to back-pedal because I don't care about you or your opinion of me. You could fall off the face of the earth tomorrow and I wouldn't lose a moment of sleep. I have no reason to try to change anything about what I said. I'm just not going to sit idly by while you put words in my mouth. Take off your blinders, swallow your pride and try again, without the bias. You will be utterly shocked at how differently it reads when you're not making presumptions. ...or don't. At this point you're really just a waste of my time. I don't really feel obliged to waste any more, one way or another. Learn from your mistakes, repeat them...it makes no difference to me. Have a nice life. Or don't. Your call.
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