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Mondo Music 😅 that comment was so dumb on so many levels. Where do I begin!?!?
First and for most you have yet to prove any of the absurd claims you made. Advanced precollision system is nothing special nearly all cars have them lexus didn't invent that
Headrest?! Lmao Mercedes has stone massaging seats for crying out loud, and can channel cool or warm air at the back of your neck too
S class is the world's first veichle to completly ditch the light bulb and go 100% full led
Lmao what, Toyota is not a luxury car, so how can they blast perfection on that, what a pathetic argument!?! Merc don't struggle to make their cars affordable... Aha now you just friking contradicted yourself..... First you said mercedes is poor mans car than you said thry struggle to make it affordable. Which one. Is it? GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU TRY LECTURING OTHERS ON CARS many mercedes are affordable below the 30k range, heck you can even get certain used Mercedes for couple of thousands. Lexus ain't exactly cheapc gs f costs 80k. If Mercedes is expensive then imunder that same logic lexus is as well.
The badge is a resemblance and symbol of the masterpice. It has that kind if reputation for a reason, because it's high quality and people appreciate that. Lmao in what way is lexus better fan merc
Take e class vs gs for example... Merc has ambient lighting, perfume dispenser, masaaging seats, air bag seat belts, autopilot, parking the car with your phone..... The list goes on and, NO LEXUS HAS THIS period
And build quality if Mercedes is better help you can even get alligator skin if you really wanted to for the s class , can't get that on a lexus!
And mercedes is kicking lexus' ass in sales and has win more reviews than it too.... So lexus better my ass, Mercedes is better in every way. Heck Mercedes invented the automobile we know and love today in the first plsce. They created the auto industry in the first place, everyone else copied. Go search who karl Benz is .....the founder of mercedes and inventor of the modern car
I don't believe that you actually owned a g class ...you have yet to provide proof for that.... But guess what your experiences (which you have zero evidence for) do not reflect everyone's experience with Mercedes as a whole. If that were true capilism would kick in and people would stop buying Mercedes... Clearly that's not the case so you can keep dreaming
No body cares about personal stories, that's the driver problem for not taking care of it. To this day you see more old merc than old lexus, concrete proof that mercedes is more reliable than you think
Please You wouldn't know what facts are if it hit you in the face ....you even contradicted yourself like an idiot and yet you have the guts to call me a non car enthusiast? You are just a German car hater. I like the japense cars but they still have a lot to learn from the Germans when it comes to high end luxury and technology and sports cars
No lexus for example can touch the Mercedes maybach Pullman limo nor the amg gt r nor the project one hyper car or porshe 918 or 911
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HydeClow
No it doesn't, I JUST EXPLAINED it to you that it doesn't say that! You took it out of context, or did you take my comment out of context too?
What a pathetic attempt to prove your point. I guess you got your quotations from Wikipedia or other Muslim hating websites that can edit and alter words and mix things to fit what they want others to read. First of all, shame on you for insulting Prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him). Secondly you read everything out of context and you intentionally skip previous verses and the following verses to get your answer. Shame on you for that pathetic attempt and I will answer these for you and will put you to shame and I will expose you.
"Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief] is worse than killing...but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"
No matter how many non-Muslims I meet, they always quote this Surah and completely out of context, plus they fail to read the previous and the following verses to understand it better. Just because you see the word "kill" in it, does not mean that you can prove something, unless you take everything out of context, which you did and you knowingly try to deceive people.
Before I say anything further, you need to understand that when you translate something in to English or other languages, it is extremely difficult, because some words mean something different in other languages, while some words could mean several things. That is why you should read it in the authentic language to understand it better. But no worries I am willing to answer these for you and brace yourself, this will be a huge comment. This Surah goes like this according to the new Sahih International translation: Qur'an Surat Al-Baqarah 2:191-193:
"2:191 And kill them wherever you overtake them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers."
"2:192 And if they cease, then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful."
"2:193 Fight them until there is no [more] fitnah and [until] worship is [acknowledged to be] for Allah . But if they cease, then there is to be no aggression except against the oppressors."
Now let us not forget to read the previous verse and then the following verse to understand this better and why the Qur'an says this.
"2:190 Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors."
"2:194 [Fighting in] the sacred month is for [aggression committed in] the sacred month, and for [all] violations is legal retribution. So whoever has assaulted you, then assault him in the same way that he has assaulted you. And fear Allah and know that Allah is with those who fear Him."
Okay, now the reason behind these verses… You fail to realise what Allah is saying and why these verses are in the Qur'an. First of all, Allah is commanding you to fight those people that try to assault you first, Allah is saying to fight those that wish to oppress you or other people, fight those people that do wrong and are evil. Allah is telling you to kill those that wish to kill you first. In short this is only for people in the battlefield, not for people like us. Allah says to fight those that wish to fight you first, similarly every Sergeant Major in any Army is training his Cadets/Soldiers to kill or be killed. Do you see the point now? Allah says fight for Islam, fight those that wish to corrupt the religion of Islam, fight those that wish to control you, fight those that wish to oppress you, fight those that try to kill you, fight those that wish to harm your loved ones. Allah is not saying "grab a weapon and start killing innocent people", you need to first read the Qur'an completely without skipping any verses to understand it better. Also you fail to realise that these verses were talking about war, please educate yourself regarding Islam first, before you jump to conclusion.
“Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."
This verse is telling Muslims not to fall victim to the disbelievers, not to follow their footsteps and go against Allah. So what is wrong with that? It is clearly saying not to reject your faith, just because other people try to deceive you. Again you fail to read what comes before this verse and what comes after this verse. Don’t worry, I’ll quote them for you…
Qur’an 4:88 “What is [the matter] with you [that you are] two groups concerning the hypocrites, while Allah has made them fall back [into error and disbelief] for what they earned. Do you wish to guide those whom Allah has sent astray? And he whom Allah sends astray - never will you find for him a way [of guidance]”.
Qur’an 4:90 “Except for those who take refuge with a people between yourselves and whom is a treaty or those who come to you, their hearts strained at [the prospect of] fighting you or fighting their own people. And if Allah had willed, He could have given them power over you, and they would have fought you. So if they remove themselves from you and do not fight you and offer you peace, then Allah has not made for you a cause [for fighting] against them”.
“Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"
Whoever goes against Allah, he/she is only doing damage to him/herself. HOWEVER, whoever goes against Allah and then tries to corrupt the religion of Islam, that person deserves this punishment. Likewise in USA today, if the FBI or CIA catch a Spy in their country, who is selling information to the enemy, they will EXECUTE that person on the spot, or that person will get capital punishment. Don’t try to point fingers towards Islam, because Allah says to punish those that wish to corrupt Islam, Islam is a way of life for Muslims, if you try to corrupt the way of life of Muslims, then you are actually trying to destroy Islam. If you think this verse is by any means violent or barbaric, then do a history check on your religion or country and see what your own people used to do with such people that try to cause corruption in a land. I think that should explain this to you.
“Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"
Why do you skip verses? Now I know that you copied these “Verses” from either Wikipedia or some Muslim hater that tried to deceive you. Quote properly and complete verses, yet again you fail to read the previous verses and the following ones to understand this one. Also you should know that these verses are talking about people that wish to attack Islam first, similarly on the battlefield soldiers are trained to kill or be killed. I will quote this verse for you properly with the previous ones.…
Qur’an 8:1 – 8:15
“8:1 They ask you, [O Muhammad], about the bounties [of war]. Say, "The [decision concerning] bounties is for Allah and the Messenger." So fear Allah and amend that which is between you and obey Allah and His Messenger, if you should be believers.”
“8:2 The believers are only those who, when Allah is mentioned, their hearts become fearful, and when His verses are recited to them, it increases them in faith; and upon their Lord they rely -”
“8:3 The ones who establish prayer, and from what We have provided them, they spend.”
“8:4 Those are the believers, truly. For them are degrees [of high position] with their Lord and forgiveness and noble provision.”
“8:5 [It is] just as when your Lord brought you out of your home [for the battle of Badr] in truth, while indeed, a party among the believers were unwilling,”
“8:6 Arguing with you concerning the truth after it had become clear, as if they were being driven toward death while they were looking on.”
“8:7 [Remember, O believers], when Allah promised you one of the two groups - that it would be yours - and you wished that the unarmed one would be yours. But Allah intended to establish the truth by His words and to eliminate the disbelievers”
“8:8 That He should establish the truth and abolish falsehood, even if the criminals disliked it.”
“8:9 [Remember] when you asked help of your Lord, and He answered you, "Indeed, I will reinforce you with a thousand from the angels, following one another.”
“8:10 And Allah made it not but good tidings and so that your hearts would be assured thereby. And victory is not but from Allah . Indeed, Allah is Exalted in Might and Wise.”
“8:11 [Remember] when He overwhelmed you with drowsiness [giving] security from Him and sent down upon you from the sky, rain by which to purify you and remove from you the evil [suggestions] of Satan and to make steadfast your hearts and plant firmly thereby your feet.”
“8: 12 [Remember] when your Lord inspired to the angels, "I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip.”
“8:13 That is because they opposed Allah and His Messenger. And whoever opposes Allah and His Messenger - indeed, Allah is severe in penalty.”
“8:14 That [is yours], so taste it." And indeed for the disbelievers is the punishment of the Fire.”
“8:15 O you who have believed, when you meet those who disbelieve advancing [for battle], do not turn to them your backs [in flight].”
I want to quote more, because this is a long story, you are reading a story being told about wars centuries ago. Allah is not telling all the Muslims, to start killing innocent people, if that was the case, then there would be no peace anywhere and humanity would not exist by now. Use your brain and read the entire Qur’an to understand what you are quoting.
“Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah"
I suggest you read the entire chapter of Surat Al-'Anfāl , because I quoted from 8:1 to 8:15 to you. Read the entire chapter, it has 75 verses; don’t skip verses to find the words you so desperately look for. I can quote them all for you, but this comment will become over 1000 lines, so to keep it short, here is a link to the entire chapter http://quran.com/8, read it if you have the guts.
Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."
Visit the above link and read the entire chapter, no need to quote incomplete verses. You are only fooling yourself and other non-Muslims, you can never fool a Muslim.
“Quran (9:14) - "Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace..."
You quoted Surat At-Tawbah, yet again incomplete and completely out of context. I told you above, don’t skip verses to find words that you so desperately are seeking to find. Read the previous verses and the following ones to understand it better. I will quote them for you…
Qur’an Surat At-Tawbah 9:7 – 9:15…
“9:7 How can there be for the polytheists a treaty in the sight of Allah and with His Messenger, except for those with whom you made a treaty at al-Masjid al-Haram? So as long as they are upright toward you, be upright toward them. Indeed, Allah loves the righteous [who fear Him].
“9:8 How [can there be a treaty] while, if they gain dominance over you, they do not observe concerning you any pact of kinship or covenant of protection? They satisfy you with their mouths, but their hearts refuse [compliance], and most of them are defiantly disobedient.”
“9:9 They have exchanged the signs of Allah for a small price and averted [people] from His way. Indeed, it was evil that they were doing.”
“9:10 They have exchanged the signs of Allah for a small price and averted [people] from His way. Indeed, it was evil that they were doing.”
“9:11 But if they repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, then they are your brothers in religion; and We detail the verses for a people who know.”
“9:12 And if they break their oaths after their treaty and defame your religion, then fight the leaders of disbelief, for indeed, there are no oaths [sacred] to them; [fight them that] they might cease.”
“9:13 Would you not fight a people who broke their oaths and determined to expel the Messenger, and they had begun [the attack upon] you the first time? Do you fear them? But Allah has more right that you should fear Him, if you are [truly] believers.”
“9:14 Fight them; Allah will punish them by your hands and will disgrace them and give you victory over them and satisfy the breasts of a believing people”
“9:15 And remove the fury in the believers' hearts. And Allah turns in forgiveness to whom He wills; and Allah is Knowing and Wise.”
This should explain your misquotation properly, but I suggest you read the entire 9th chapter, before you jump to conclusion. There are many more verses following this one, this chapter is telling you a story, don’t skip verses to prove your point, because you are only fooling yourself.
“Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."
I wanted to continue quoting the remaining verses, but my comment is getting way too big. So I will tell you what I kept telling you above. DON’T QUOTE ONLY 1 VERSE, quote the previous ones and the next ones, so that it makes sense. This verse is still talking about those people that try to fool Muslims and try to fight Muslims to kill them. Allah is telling the believers to stand their ground and fight, Allah is telling the believers to not fear the oppressors, you should fight those that wish to harm you or your faith. You should fear only God and no one else.
“Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"
Allah clearly says that there is only 1 God, Allah. Yet there were people back then and still are right now that say these things. Keep in mind that making any partners with God, or making images of God, or worshipping statues and etc. these are all considered as the most heinous sins, in short it is called the Sin of Shirk. Which Allah will not forgive you for it, unless you repent and ask for forgiveness. There is only 1 God and to Him we all belong. Not only Islam says that there is only 1 God, there are many religions that claim this, Christianity, Judaism, Catholicism, Hinduism and etc. Yet even these religions are corrupted and most of the followers think that there is more than 1 God. Islam on the other hand agrees and follows on the fact that there is only 1 God.
“Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."
Again you skip verses and this is common Muslim hater tactics. You failed to prove anything, read the Qur’an or the chapter that you are quoting verses from properly first. Now I know that you copy pasted these from some Muslim hating websites, what a pathetic fail… You are still quoting from the same chapter above; shamelessly you skipped a lot of verses to quote only one, which on its own makes no sense. Here I will help you, http://quran.com/9, read them all to understand it.
“Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction."
Read again, it says “We” in capital letters, meaning this is being done by God. Allah is not saying grab a weapon and start destroying things and innocent people, that is the understanding of ignorant people like you. Educate yourself first, then quote verses from a Muslim hater that had posted these elsewhere. Allah is taking it upon Himself, to punish those that do wrong. There is even a story about the Qaum Lut, a city that consisted of Homosexuals. Allah destroyed them, because they were doing unnatural things. Allah made a male for a female, not a male for a male, so Allah wiped them away, because they were spreading homosexuality and diseases. This was centuries ago and there are prophecies that homosexuality will increase near the end of the world and isn’t that the case today? Gay people coming out half naked on the streets, yelling “I am gay and I am proud”? Not only in Islam, but in other religions, being gay is prohibited. Gay people blame God for creating them like that, they fail to realise that they are like that, because they lust after men themselves. Even Science proved that gay people are gay, because they choose to be gay, not by some genetic issues.
“Quran (33:60-62) - "If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while. Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter."
Read the entire chapter please, don’t skip verses to prove your point, because just as above, you will fail and only fool non-Muslims. This chapter is speaking about a time when non-Muslims would attack Muslims at Al-Madinah, there was a religious war between non-Muslims and Muslims. What I find annoying about people like you, is the fact that you know nothing about Islam and only look for words like “kill” and etc. to think that you are right and you proved something. Shame on you.
“Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves"
Tsk Tsk Tsk… Please perform your own research about Islam, don’t quote verses that some other Muslim hater quoted on Wikipedia or some other Muslim hating websites. Just type Qur’an 48 in Google and the one that you quoted will be on top of the suggestions. That is the non-Muslims trying their best to deceive others, they search only for this 1 verse, what a shameless act really, if you have the guts, read the Qur’an completely, don’t read 1 verse to prove your point. Pathetic! You quoted this verse incomplete and you did not read the previous ones to understand the meaning yet again. This chapter is talking about Makkah, about the pilgrimage, about how one should enter Makkah for the pilgrimage. If you read the previous verses it explains it properly. To keep it short here is a link for you: http://quran.com/48, I challenge you to read all 29 verses. Also here is the complete verse 29 “Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah ; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves. You see them bowing and prostrating [in prayer], seeking bounty from Allah and [His] pleasure. Their mark is on their faces from the trace of prostration. That is their description in the Torah. And their description in the Gospel is as a plant which produces its offshoots and strengthens them so they grow firm and stand upon their stalks, delighting the sowers - so that Allah may enrage by them the disbelievers. Allah has promised those who believe and do righteous deeds among them forgiveness and a great reward.” Don’t skip words next time.
Quran (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way"
What is your problem with this? Read the previous verses and the following ones to understand it better.
“Quran (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end."
Read again what you copied please.
The remaining you quoted are from Sahih Al-Bukhari, you should know that Sahih Al-Bukhari contains stories of the old ages, which we do not live in today. These are Hadiths told by people, they are stories that speak about hardships 1400+ years ago, and these stories are speaking about battles between Muslims and non-Muslims. You fail to realise one simple fact, what happened back then, was literally war between Muslims and non-Muslims. Don’t assume that the Muslims were the bad guys, because that was the role of the non-Muslims. You need to educate yourself first, because you copy paste some brainless idiot’s work. What happened back then, has no impact on today, these are stories of the old times. It does not say "Muslims start killing innocent people". You need to use your brain first, as you claim that you are very intelligent. These are all stories of war 1400+ years ago, it does not apply to us. These are stories telling us what happened back then, how our Prophet (peace be upon him) responded to it and what Allah has said.
So in conclusion the quran DOES NOT SAY TO KILL INFIDELS, it just says not to fight anyone unless they are the ones who start the fight and so you only fight them in your defense, NOt attack for no reason and start killing innocent people.
There is a famous quote from a true Muslim Leader and He said:
"We have two groups of brothers..
They are either your brothers in Religion, or your brothers in Humanity"
Don't start running your mouth about us killing anybody, we would never do that, as I just proved to you. The only ones who are doing that in the name of islam are the ones who take it out of context themselves, similar to the mistakes you make, and kill using the quran as an umberalla, when infact, not only are they not muslim, but not even a human being to begin with. Besides, you know in the end, they are killing more muslims than you think everyday. There the reason many of the middles eastern countries cannot yet fully develop.
Don't fall for the media that specifically films these people who are Muslims BY NAME.
Take this example before I end my comment...
There could be a person for instance who says I am a good person, but lets say that person kill and steal, and does a lot of bad things.
NO MATTER HOW Much he claims to be a good person, which he can, the reality is, he isn't really a good person.
Please use these same lenses to islam, proving that it is such a tiny minority that are doing that.
There are 1.6 billion muslims across the globe, lets assume there are 16 000 suicide bombers in the wolrd (there arn't) lets assume they are for this example, If you do the math, that's a 1.6 billion to 16000 ration, nothing!!!
So ask yourself this question:
"Why aren't the rest of Us doing it, why is it such a tiny minority"?
If you actually bothered to real all of this (which you obviously didn't)
then Thank you for reading it, and I hope you don't hate on us for no reason.
And so as you can see, from what I have proven, Islam does not advice against killing anyone. we are your brothers, so Salam to you brother, peace be upon you ,may god help guide you, and I wish you the best of luck on the rest of your learning journey.
Like I said before, and I will say again...
"Let us not discuss with our comments Today, but with our education tomorrow."
Do we have a Deal?
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javnez Stephan Hawkings Theory is a THEORY, which is not necessarily true! Oh, and its also only done by one person, who just so happened to be an atheist.
Honestly, why are you finding excuses for the non-existence of god, its clear he does because Everything is created by something, that's my theory for you, and I think I have 1.6 billion people with me who agree with me.
Let me ask you this my friend, using your own example. Thank you for mentiononing the great man, because it leads me to another reason for the existence of God.
Why was Stephan Hawking Born like that?
That's not fair, why is somenone born hot and another born ugly, one who can't speak vs one who can't see.
Another question Science can't even think about?
God created people like that to test us, to see how we would treat them as like other human beings, and I asure you that God is Just and gives higher rewards to people who have those disabilities for there level of patience is extreme.
\Hope its a bit of New information/
Point is Someone has to do the justice, and no one can do it better than the creator of the Universe himself,
and my friend, please do answer the questions I have been asking you...
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+Chris well the sls nor the sls black series was talked about either. and for the record the amg gt was never meant to replace the sls or sls black series just like the sls wasn't meant to replace the slr mclaren and just like the slr mclaren was never meant to replace the clk-gtr. The amg gt is meant to compete with the 911 market. Yet despite that the amg gt and especially amg gt r is far superior to the sls and sls bs in nearly every single way. Way better looks, way better handling, way better acceleration, way better transmission - sls transmission was laughably slugish-, way better interior and comfort, way better technology like 9 stage traction control, active aero, rear wheel steering, way better performance, way more fun to drive etc etc I could go on and on...not to mention it costs half the price too. The only thing the sls has over the amg gt are the doors and the sound. The amg gt sounds great too however, not as great as the sls but still great and without being any where near as much of a mosquito gas guzzler which the sls is. So the amg gt and especially gt r is a far better daily drivers car than the sls. Let alone the upcoming black series version of the amg gt r.
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***** lol, where does it say it then, show me where it says it on Mercedes website? They talk about the engine sound being aided through the speakers yes, but this IS NOT THE SAME as faking the sound. That's what you fail to realize.
And like i said before even if we assume they faked it, who are you to critize when BMW fakes their m car exhaust notes on practically all of their m cars. This the definition of hypocrisy and yet you ask me why I am angry?! How about you ask yourself why you're a hypocrite first!
And yes I listened to it, it doesn't sound as great as e43, only BMW fanboys like it. And I am talking about new models in paticular in case you are trying to mix old and new together. e43 sounds much better than this BMw
And m550I isn't out yet, no surprise there with BMW, just like how the 7 series came 2-3 years after the s classic the m5 still to come even tho e63 is already here, the m550I still to come even tho e43 is already here, yup BMW is playing catch up. Whichsbiws how they have to take a long time and research merc des before being able to compete with it! It also makes it clear that they are followers whereas Mercedes is leaders in respect of market.
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javnez
EVIDENCE, EVIDENCE?
What are you talking about, You and my existence is evidence, a tree, ....the fact the universe exists is all evidence that something had to have created it!
We humans for example buildt cars
What your saying is just like the idea of saying: "Oh cars just appeared out of no where"
NO, because cars exist, then something had to have created it.
And notice that Science couldn't answer any of the questions of life I mentioned to you previously. Its not mythology by the way my dear, it just doesn't make sense that we human beings just poofed in out of no where for NO REASON.
Think of it a BIT like a game, IN SOME WAYS.
The creator of that game world doesn't just put you in the middle of no where for no reason, in that case its for the storyline for ones entertainment.
Obviously the creator will give you instructions, the rules and ethics on what you should and should not do (ex: eat apples to live good, avoid monsters bad).
In that part of similarity with Islam, God sent down the quran (almost like the intstructions, rules, and ethics, in the form of a holy book {REALITY}) thorugh a prophet. A prophet earns his name because he is no average human being, he is the honest of the honest, in other words, God wouldn't give the ethics and rules to this Universe in the wrong hands, to some random person. And so the prohphets would educate the population about the quran and religion.
Ofcourse this also has to do with history, keep in mind...
So as you can see, its not that we create all of this for fun. THERE IS PURE REASONING AND EVIDENCE for it. Why? because God himself created it. God isn't just going to leave us hanging cluelessly.
Of course this is where I lead to talking about why he created us, (all on a general point of view btw) to test us, by giving us the truth, and see if we would strive for the truth and ethics to obey him or not.(via: ex: be nice to your neighbors, don't kill innocent people, don't spread rammers, etc)
If were not tested, and instead just given the answer, their wouldn't be a logical reason to really live in the Universe at all would there?
And all of that of which I am saying right now is on a genral note. If your really curious and honest to investigate, you would read the details as to why this so called mythology exists, you'll find there indeed is solid reasoning behind it as I explained to you here.
...Which you may or may not have read, am I right?
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javnez First of, don't try swerving off topic to avoid answering those questions you couldn't answer and also away from the proof from the Quran itself that it does not condom violence, but rather readers like you misinterpret the verses and take them out of context in efforts to "hurt" Islam) So if anyone kills they are not even Muslim, nor human to begin with!
Second of all, name those honour killings, and also realize that if you do something that's against your religion in the name of your religion...You may be Muslim by NAME but on the practical side of things (reality) you aren't really.
Similarly, for example, their could be this person that calls himself a Good Person who rarely helps people (maybe even says he's helping criminals and considers it helping a friend). but kills, does crime and a lot of bad things more than he does good. So really that person can call himself a "Good Person" AS MUCH AS HE WANTS, but in reality, is he really a good person? NO
This goes for any religion, you can't penalize then entire Muslim world (That's over 1.6 billion people your talking to) for the act of an individual, group, via minority. Infact we want these extremists eradicated more than you do because...
#1-Their giving Muslims a bad name, allowing the media to brainwash every one while they race for power and money as their ultimate goal
and
#2-They are killing innocent lives, both Muslims and Non-Muslims,
What kind of race kills another human being and even their so called own kind? It doesn't make sense! Not even animals have such behavior! We hate those ISIS bastards as much as you do, if not more , trust me because in the end its thousands of Muslims who are dying from these stupid actions.
I hope that answers your question(s), but what about the questions I asked you?
Thanks
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How dense can you guys be?
It wasn't he rain that got him. It was the fact that a car infront of him coming towards him hit a deep puddle of water which created a large wave that hit his car...in other words .. He got hit with a tsunami of a wave by a car in front.. This is more bad luck than anything else Thats why This isn't a warranty issue nothing broke because of an mechanical issue it's was due to weather. Mercedes would honor it if it was just that but anything else falls under insurance. That's like saying a Ferrari should be better engineered so it won't have hail damage, and if it gets caught in a hail storm...and is damaged, FERRARI should warranty it. the car's systems can only handle so much of an influx of water at once. It can filter some out and cope with it, burn it off, etc. But he got bombarded with a large wave of water that's harder for a car, any car, to cope with. That's why you avoid driving through high water or when there's a chance to get a large level of water in the car. That's one of the things I learned when driving you AVOID large puddles because there's always that chance enough water can get into the intake and hydrolock the engine. Regardless, it's not a warranty thing, the car didn't fail because of any mechanical or design flaw it failed because of operator error/"an act of God." Merc designed and built the car, but they're not the ones who allow large sums of water to get thrown in the intake. I mean the car has to have an intake and anywhere it is it risks sucking in water. Avoid puddles. If you driving on the road and you see cars in the oncoming lane splashing up large amounts of water from puddles either movie over to another lane, get off that street, or pull over and wait for the rain to die down. Cars run on fuel and air, they can't run at all on water. If it were many c63s getting hydrolocked like this then it would be recalled... But this isn't the case... This is an incredibly rare and unlucky scenario and would effect almost any car in a similar way.
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Muhammad Arslan How dense can you be?
It wasn't he rain that got him. It was the fact that a car infront of him coming towards him hit a deep puddle of water which created a large wave that hit his car...in other words .. He got hit with a tsunami of a wave by a car in front.. This is more bad luck than anything else Thats why This isn't a warranty issue nothing broke because of an mechanical issue it's was due to weather. Mercedes would honor it if it was just that but anything else falls under insurance. That's like saying a Ferrari should be better engineered so it won't have hail damage, and if it gets caught in a hail storm...and is damaged, FERRARI should warranty it. the car's systems can only handle so much of an influx of water at once. It can filter some out and cope with it, burn it off, etc. But he got bombarded with a large wave of water that's harder for a car, any car, to cope with. That's why you avoid driving through high water or when there's a chance to get a large level of water in the car. That's one of the things I learned when driving you AVOID large puddles because there's always that chance enough water can get into the intake and hydrolock the engine. Regardless, it's not a warranty thing, the car didn't fail because of any mechanical or design flaw it failed because of operator error/"an act of God." Merc designed and built the car, but they're not the ones who allow large sums of water to get thrown in the intake. I mean the car has to have an intake and anywhere it is it risks sucking in water. Avoid puddles. If you driving on the road and you see cars in the oncoming lane splashing up large amounts of water from puddles either movie over to another lane, get off that street, or pull over and wait for the rain to die down. Cars run on fuel and air, they can't run at all on water. If it were many c63s getting hydrolocked like this then it would be recalled... But this isn't the case... This is an incredibly rare and unlucky scenario and would effect almost any car in a similar way.
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heythere 225
LMAO stupid, ya keep trying to deny it. Its very clear, they can get you from point a to point b, in a way more luxurious, fuel efficient, comfortable and safe manner! You want driving pleasure and dynamics you go to AMG! Thats what amg is for and they look badass and sporty too. All bmws are faster lol?/ What can compete witth the AMG GT R or AMG GT C from BMW?! NOTHING!!! An i8? lol a 3 cylinder i8?!!? What a joke. Bmw's handle better and are faster? Which is why Merecedes have beat bmw in nurburgring times and in dtm right? Ya that makes so much sense man! You need a reality check man!
And i'm not butthurt, im just responding to triggered low iq bmw fanboys like yourself who are making outrageous untrue claims.
And for the record its very easy to tell the difference between a s class in comparison to an e class, the front grills look nothing a like and the s class has 3 back tail lights rather than 2. And for the record bmw models have always looked like different scaled/sized versions of the same car and not many seem to have complained.
And the 7 series DID NOT dethrone the s class. S class is still the king when it comes to luxury. check out numerous reviews like moter trend and car wow, so many reviews say the s class is better.
Furthermore the s class comes in an AMG version, a coupe version, a cabriolet version, a brabus version and even a palman limo version, i mean come on! What are you blabbering on about!?!?
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*You say that BMW uses fake sound but when Mercedes applies
a similar technique to their cars, suddenly it's not fake ? Give me a break
Hasan. It's more fake than real and you KNOW it ! If this car didn't
have a Mercedes badge you'd be calling that sound FAKE !*
LMAO are you joking!?!? Its not fake and I already admitted
that its aided through the speakers, but THAT’S NOT THE SAME THING AS BEING
FAKE. You are just in denial because you don’t want to admit it. If it was another
bmw you would admit it! And that’s not the point. You were the one who started
this by making that critiquing statement. The fact that you even asked the
question knowing that bmw fakes its exhaust system by definition proves that you’re
a hypocrite!
*“The E400 definitely competes with the 540i, i think you
didn't read my comment well.”*
LMAO more like you were vague on purpose and are only
specific when I ask you to clarify. Looks like YOU didn’t read my comment! When
did I say the e400 doesn’t compete with the e400? I said that it’s a non amg
version aka non sporty therefore sound is not one of its priorities, rather it
tries to do the opposite, it is focused on being quite, comfortable and luxurious
just like the rr philosophy you used. So that means the e400 doesn’t have to
sound better, under your own logic the 540i and e400 are both geared to being
more sound proof as opposed to better noise, so why does it matter which one
sounds better???? Its completely irrelevant UNDER YOUR OWN LOGIC! FAIL!!!
In comparison when it comes to the models that are sporty like the e43 and m sport 540i, those cars should have a good sound as part of their sporty car agenda. And you admitted that the e43 sounds better than the m sport 540i
* “Mercedes fanboys will always say that the E63 sounds
better*
cuz it DOES and even bmw fanboys like yourself can't shy away from this fact
*because the M5's reverse exhaust flow (ground breaking !) completely
neutralizes the burble”*
Lmao and whos fault is that???BMW! At the end of the day its
about which one sounds better and you just admitted that amg sounds better.
Having a burble/crackle gives it way more character than the m5 can dream of.
And its not fake, that’s like saying someone who plays an instrument is faking
it just because he is being qued when to play the instrument as opposed to a
digital computer sound. At the end of the day the real sound that matters is
the sound you hear and whether its better or not. And you just admitted that
amg and their burbles sound way better. Its very simple actually V8 > inline 6. any day of the week.
“But i can appreciate an exhaust note that is unheard of, a
unique sound. That's what BMW is good at.”
Yes, unique,
there is no shittier sound like it at all, they are good at making shitty
sounding exhausts. Yes that’s right.
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Kaisuke971 no I do understand, Those particular BMW's and audis USED TO HAVE V8s . They went from something better to something worse and succumbed under the pressure of government efficiency regulations, which means they probably couldn't produce a v8 engine effecient enough to pass environmental regulations
And yes amg gt r is a direct gt3 rs competitor. There is even YouTube video that compared them. They are also similar price ranges both track oriented whereas gt2 is more of a street 911. It doesn't have to have same type of engine to be a competitor what kind if logic is that I am pretty sure it's the rs that's turbo and the gt3 that's na
And I meant that no BMW can touch the amg gt r or hypercar so you clearly misunderstood my point
Lol, Mercedes didn't need to go into other industries, they just knew they could and had the crafstmean ship and engineering to domenate the segment.
No what's sad is you failing to comprehend my point. I know it's aided through the speakers, you are claiming that it's fake tho an didn't provide proof, you only provided proof that it's aided through the speakers (which is something I already admitted) not proof of it being fake, major difference
Lmao barley beat? Beating is still beating and considering how much more it weighs and the luxuries it has it's better in it's own way. I admit that the m3 is better than the c63s but the c63s coupe is better than the m4, under your own logic, m4 is barely faster.... Whereas merc clearly has better interior and comfort, better sound which is more significant than a second difference in lap time.
No they gave it 4wd cuz it offers more traction and greater acceleration. And this new one allows you to choose how much power you want to each wheel for example you can choose between making the car rear wheel drive or 4wd which is amazing.
And m3 while its good gets rivaled big time by the guilia.
Not a BMW fanboy???? Which is why you have a picture of a BMW engine right??? Give me a break yes you are a fanboy prasing m all the time on every video and admitting that they use rake sound then critize other companies for doing anything similar, and , yes you do hate Mercedes , you won't even admit that no BMW can touch the amg gt r which is the truth...nor will you admit that this e43 sounds better than the m sport 540I in this video. Clear sign that you are a fanboy.... and no you didn't help me out on that video, you didn't even say much. What video was it? I don't recall you helping at all. And I was not struggling, I was educating them just fine.
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Kaisuke971
“Poor Hasan i'm gonna crush his dreams again.”
In your dreams (note the irony!) sorry pal, but the only thing you would be able to crush is your own logic, that is if you had it to begin with….
“ First of all Audi has a V6 not an Inline 6”
When did I say it didn't? I said the bmw went to inline 6 and audi went to v6, point being that they ditched the v8 (was that to fast for you?)
“BMW went to the inline 6 because it's the layout they have used the most, it's the classic BMW engine. If you drive a BMW, you want an Inline 6.”
Lmao, still not an excuse, just admit it, they couldn’t make a efficient v8 and instead of trying to innovate a way to keep it alive they chickened out to what they know how to do.
“ Because you know, some people don't like when their car sounds like a damn truck talking about rumble boi buy a Scania 😂”
Lol a unique way of portraying your jealousy. Everyone knows v8s sound better, and that rumble is part of their chcarcter and guess what, contrary to your belief you can control how much of it is allowed using the sports exhaust button and wheter you are in sport mode or not thanks to intelligent valve control by amg, very much like the huracan between going in strada to corsa the exhaust opens up. So you have control over it unlike a scania and no scania will not sound as good as a v8 by amg, you wish hah. Guess what most people DO LIKE THEIR CARS to have character instead of sounding like a vacuum cleaner…cough bmw cough cough
“And btw, the SLR was SUPERCHARGED 😂😭💀And the C63 sounds like shit compared to the W204,”
No it doesn’t sound like shit. Sure old c63 sounded better, but not that much , specifically, not worth how much of a gas guzzler it was. The new one sounds great and unlike the older one isn’t a misquito on fuel. SO that more than makes up for the tradeoff
“ plus it only sound better than the M3 and the Giulia because they both sound weird af lol,”
oh I see lol, so the c63 sounds better because the competition sounds like shit? Gotacha lmao, good one, is that your excuse for being worse? Whos fault is that, oh right the same people who said "screw it we can't make an efficient enough v8 so let's just do what we are used to.." Lmao! These are sports cars for cyring outloud, their duty is to put a smile on your face and a huge part of that is the character of the car. And exhaust note is a key part that makes a significant portion of that character.
“ the RC F eats it ALIVE “
lmao rc f is garbage, its sound is fake and even if we take exhaust note as a plus is ridicuoulsoy heavy and not fun to corner at all, see top gears review on it and even moter trend and car wow, its not a great car. In fact since you mention it see redline reviews who in the c63s video specifaclly talks about how he enjoys it more than the lexus rc f.
“The E63 wasn't always competitive. The pre-facelift E63 was the SLOWEST car in its class, by FAR. You just can't admit it. It was barely quicker than the E60 M5, and it was slower than the then outgoing RS6. “
It was competitive, it just wasn’t as good, theres a difference, and not by far by a reasonable amount. You just contradicted yourself infact, you said it was the slowst car in its class then you admitted that it was quicker!?!?! You see what I mean, you are talking right out of your ass.
“They didn't put AWD because why not, they got CORNERED by the M5 that had a monster engine and the Quattro, it was the only way ! “
Yes they didn’t do it because they got cornered, so under your logic than why does the bmw need 4 wheel steering and upcoming xdrive? Lmao get out of here with your bs. They did it cuz they can and have engineered it so that it can be BOTH rwd and awd. When you have the technology why not use it. Why offer only rwd when you can offer BOTH! It shows they care about customers and want to give them a lot of flexibility.
“The C63 has a better power to weight ratio and torque to weight ratio than the M3, FACTS.”
Please, You say facts yet fail to provide a shred of evidence for your claims
C63 Coupe = 0.11
http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=493757%0AM4 = 0.12
http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=509179
Other way around, bmw has the higher power to weight ratio. Hopefully you take your bias and throw it in the trash can and realize that the reason why they are not even a second off each other is because they have very similar power to weight ratios. That’s why even tho the bmw has a smaller engine it can still compete with the Mercedes, because it is lighter. So there is nothing special at all, and you just exposed your ignorance by claiming that one it’s a fact without putting resources where your mouth is and two ranting about how the m4 has less hp even tho that doesn’t matter since it is lighter and thus still has a similar power to weight ratio as the merc. So take your biased bs out of it, they are both performance masterpieces.
“The BMW is just sharper and has a better engine so at the end the raw numbers don't shine as they should (like in this video lol).”
Lmao you realize that the e43 was faster right? Pause at 4 seconds for example and look at the speed of both, the one on the merc is higher. But that’s not the point, the point is that they are equally close and in the real world you wouldn’t notice much a off a difference between the two. In otherwords if you had to tell which one was faster by individually sitting in one and driving you wouldn’t be able to tell so easily.
“ I said that the E43 sounds better like three times and each time i said that the 540i's sound suits it better but since you're slow it had to be repeated for you to finally integrate the info 🤣”
Lmao you failed to realize my point then, these are supposed to be sports sedans, and sound is part of a sporty cars character, so the fact that the e43 sounds much better is a major plus for the benz. So no the 540i’s sound doesn’t suit it better, it should sound more sporty but it fails at doing that which should be part of the m sport experience. I am not slow, oh no I got it its just that you keep misinterpreting my points or ignore them all together
The E43 is only a "sport" sedan.
Only? Are you joking it’s a luxury sedan too, do you not understand what I am telling you? It has the perfect blend of sportiness and luxury/elegance
It can't beat a regular 5er in a straight
It just did, and like I said before you wouldn’t be able to tell which one is faster without a watch/dragrace if you were testing them individually back to back.
“ and gets eaten by it in the corners lol “
lol really? Where I don’t see that, bmw fanboys always like to say that but don’t provide a shred of proof. Seriously just get out if you wanna make these silly claims
“If you want a sporty car of this category without paying over 100k, the M550i is the way to go.”
In YOUR OPINION and are you talking about the new or old one? Cuz the new one isn’t even out yet.
“ Just no car in the class right now combines the dynamism and perf of that car. That's just the way it is”
Just because you say that doesn’t mean its true? Lmao have you driven it? Its not even out yet and you are already speculating out of your ass. That is pure bs, sure it will have great dynamics but I think that’s where you and I differ. You seem to just care about performance, and dynamics, I care about sport performance AND elegant luxury which no other car masters as beautifully as the e43 and e63 imo.
“Hey Hasan i heard you liked stupid comparisons. No Mercedes can touch the S100RR 😂😂😂”
You really want to go there? I compared cars to cars, you are comparing bikes to cars, so you are the one who is comparing apples to oranges, literally! but I will give it to you sure, no Mercedes can touch it. Totally legit comparison, its only stupid to those who are afraid to admit it. But guess what?
Don't celebrate just yet, Mercedes will have something to teach bmw a lesson!
http://www.bmwblog.com/2016/01/29/mercedes-amg-gets-serious-about-bikes-also/
https://motorbikewriter.com/mercedes-amg-unveils-solarbeam-f3/
No Bmw can touch:
The AMG GT R
The AMG Project ONE 1000 hp hyper car
The G wagon
The Maybach Landaulet
The 6x6
The Maybach S class (and Pullman Limo and Emperor)
The Astros
Any Mercedes Unimog
Arrow460
Clk Gtr
Slr Mcleran
Sls amg bs
Sl300
If you want me to keep going just let me know.
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javnez Then judging be your previous statements claiming that Islam is a violent religion (Which it is not as I proved to you), that means that all Muslims would be causing massacres, and killing, which as you can see is not the case. Proving you wrong and that Muslims aren't poisoned.
And if we still want to play this dirty game that's full of poison itself, then may I remind you that Science does not answer all the questions of life.
Who keeps the Earth spinning at that exact speed?
Who keeps the earth at such a certain distance so that its not too close to the sun to be burned nor too far to not get too cold?
Who keeps the planets orbiting perfectly around the sun?
Who made and controls gravity so that its just right?
Who keeps our heart beating at that perfect rate, who designed this Universe and created us and why are we here?
You guys say that we just poofed out of no where and will die and that's it, nothing else right?
Well let me tell you, if we all believed that, or if that was the actual case, then where is the justice to every person that murdered and sheded blood, every criminal who ever stole. What about those ISIS bastards who suicide bomb innocent lives? Where is the fairness, where is the justice that says what's right and wrong, and provides the real consequences for such actions. It can't be non other than the one who created us.
And I make my point clear that, that is a question Science WILL NEVER, EVER, EVER be able to answer!
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***** They don't slaughter over a book, they slaughter for POWER and MONEY and use the book and religion as if for cover (umbrella) when in reality they do the complete opposite.
They will even send you hundreds of videos of them "Praying" or "read the quran" just to try to brainwash everyone as if they are true Muslims (Which is the only footage the media shows you). And so you will find a lot of people are fed this information (Oh...Pray+ Quran + Kill = Muslim?) When the killing itself, defeats the entire ideology of calling oneself muslim
Look at he majority of the 1.6 billion Muslims, you will see that they are peaceful, just a tiny minority that kill {Like ISIS}and call them selves Muslim, which they may be BY NAME but on the practical side, in reality they aren't.
Infact, we hate ISIS even more than you guys do, because in the end it is muslims who are dying from so called muslims? What kind of race kills not only their brothers of humanity but even there own kind? NOT EVEN AN Animal has such mentality. Clearly this is all just a game of Politics, Power and Money, where religion is practically thrown out the window/
There was a famous Muslim who once said something along the lines of:
"We are either your brothers in religion or
Your brothers in humanity"
I hope you understand what I am trying to say sir, Thank You
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Gustavo Mijares How dense can you be?
It wasn't he rain that got him. It was the fact that a car infront of him coming towards him hit a deep puddle of water which created a large wave that hit his car...in other words .. He got hit with a tsunami of a wave by a car in front.. This is more bad luck than anything else Thats why This isn't a warranty issue nothing broke because of an mechanical issue it's was due to weather. Mercedes would honor it if it was just that but anything else falls under insurance. That's like saying a Ferrari should be better engineered so it won't have hail damage, and if it gets caught in a hail storm...and is damaged, FERRARI should warranty it. the car's systems can only handle so much of an influx of water at once. It can filter some out and cope with it, burn it off, etc. But he got bombarded with a large wave of water that's harder for a car, any car, to cope with. That's why you avoid driving through high water or when there's a chance to get a large level of water in the car. That's one of the things I learned when driving you AVOID large puddles because there's always that chance enough water can get into the intake and hydrolock the engine. Regardless, it's not a warranty thing, the car didn't fail because of any mechanical or design flaw it failed because of operator error/"an act of God." Merc designed and built the car, but they're not the ones who allow large sums of water to get thrown in the intake. I mean the car has to have an intake and anywhere it is it risks sucking in water. Avoid puddles. If you driving on the road and you see cars in the oncoming lane splashing up large amounts of water from puddles either movie over to another lane, get off that street, or pull over and wait for the rain to die down. Cars run on fuel and air, they can't run at all on water. If it were many c63s getting hydrolocked like this then it would be recalled... But this isn't the case... This is an incredibly rare and unlucky scenario and would effect almost any car in a similar way.
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+MadProductionsink
Ok relaxe with the capslock at the end mate
Here I will break it down for you
first of all wagons are not all that common so in a sense they are more rare, more exlusive and that in of itself makes them very appealing
second of all they have significantly more space than saloon cars. thanks to their design their trunks are not just longer but taller too thus they are significantly bigger as a result you can have a third row of seats so unlike a normal sedan you can seat 7 passengers (similar to an suv) and the trunk is taller with a lot more room for big items, especially if you tuck down the rear seats. Just search youtube videos and see for yourself. The difference is drastic and impressive. And a lot of people value this space (and also thanks to their rectangle rear end its easier to put objects in the trunk, especially larger objects)
third of all, looks are subjective, while you may not like them many people do. In fact I think its a matter of you not having seen the best.....just look at the volvo v90 sport, audi rs6 and the mercedes e63s wagon and c63s wagon. Just search for their pictures and you will see. These are the best looking wagons....and will redefine what comes to your head when you think of estates/wagons. I am pretty confident they will change your perception of them atleast a little bit.
These are not only good looking but they are luxurious, comfortable and high quality. It isn't outrageous at all, especially if you go for the sport versions...why would it be outragous? Take a look at my personal favorite, the e63s wagon. It has supercar performance yet also the practicality of a family car. Thus it becomes a super family car! Add to that the greater practicality and exclusivity of a wagon and you have a very appealing car indeeed! In particular I think the wagon versions look better than there sedan versions.
The s90 rear lights look hidious as though volvo forgot to design the rear end and scribbled something down last minute...whereas the v90 rear looks like an actual volvo (it has true volvo design language)...the rs6 has much more presence in its wagon form....the e63 sedan rear lights are too narrow...the wagon fixes that for me....they are longer/wider and give the car a more athletic design.
Cars like the cls are awesome but they don't seat as many people, their trunks are not as big and wide and they are no where near as agile as wagons which means they compromise a little on performance in comparison. Don't get me wrong though, I love the cls and would totally buy one....but if it came between a cls or e63s wagon I would have to take the wagon....its just so much more appealing and unique. Also btw there is something called a cls shooting break which essentially is like an estate.
Again I don't expect you to like wagons better but atleast realize that they have their own appeal to a lot of people...maybe not americans but europeans love them.
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[TECHNOLOGIC] It wasn't he rain that got him. It was the fact that a car infront of him coming towards him hit a deep puddle of water which created a large wave that hit his car...in other words .. He got hit with a tsunami of a wave by a car in front.. This is more bad luck than anything else Thats why This isn't a warranty issue nothing broke because of an mechanical issue it's was due to weather. Mercedes would honor it if it was just that but anything else falls under insurance. That's like saying a Ferrari should be better engineered so it won't have hail damage, and if it gets caught in a hail storm...and is damaged, FERRARI should warranty it. the car's systems can only handle so much of an influx of water at once. It can filter some out and cope with it, burn it off, etc. But he got bombarded with a large wave of water that's harder for a car, any car, to cope with. That's why you avoid driving through high water or when there's a chance to get a large level of water in the car. That's one of the things I learned when driving you AVOID large puddles because there's always that chance enough water can get into the intake and hydrolock the engine. Regardless, it's not a warranty thing, the car didn't fail because of any mechanical or design flaw it failed because of operator error/"an act of God." Merc designed and built the car, but they're not the ones who allow large sums of water to get thrown in the intake. I mean the car has to have an intake and anywhere it is it risks sucking in water. Avoid puddles. If you driving on the road and you see cars in the oncoming lane splashing up large amounts of water from puddles either movie over to another lane, get off that street, or pull over and wait for the rain to die down. Cars run on fuel and air, they can't run at all on water. If it were many c63s getting hydrolocked like this then it would be recalled... But this isn't the case... This is an incredibly rare and unlucky scenario and would effect almost any car in a similar way.
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Joe Lyons 1 how are they fake? Just because they are not connected the exhaust pipe does not make them fake. The exhaust pipe can move around sometimes so it cannot be connected simple. That doesn't make it fake. 2 even if we consider that fake why is it a problem? Ultimately exhaust tips should look cool and this looks awesome. This is the only way to design the pipes in this curvy parallelogram like shape which you couldn't do with a normal "real" design pipe. Furthermore it also protects the exhaust pipe. So there is nothing wrong with the "fake" exhaust pipes. Looks much better than the plane ugly circle exhaust pipes of the rs6.
The quad looks much better and more sporty and athletic. Lmao interior tech of merc if anything is ahead of bmw and Audi not behind. You are an utter moron or incredibly ignorant if you say otherwise. Mercedes has way more technology and features than the rs6 like air bag seatbelts, plays a sound in the event if a collision to not harm your ears, autopilot, magic body control, stone massage, support that adjusts on turns to keep you in place, ambient lightning, perfume dispenser, heads up display...parking with your phone, I could go on and on.... And Audi rs6 has none of these technologies and features because its outdated as hell especially its interior.
Lmao says the audi fanboy. Merc definitely has the presence of an rs6 if not more. You can see many videos of Monaco where e63 turns heads so much just as much as rs6 if not more. So look in the mirror before you call anyone a fanboy. E63 is better than rs6 in nearly every single way. Light years better looking interior, miles ahead in technology, better performance than rs6... Quicker acceleration, more comfortable, more luxurious, more fun to drive and better handling and better driving dynamics. Better exhaust note. I could go and on.
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jamviator because of preference?!?! Lol so under that logic all reviews are pure preference. Man... take your bs some where else!! Seriously!. S class won despite being less optioned than the bmw, imagine if it was equally optioned! It would school the bmw even harder!
Like I said, I am only assuming technical (technology) superioeity to make this argument less convoluted and because it doesn't matter as much. These are premium luxury cars where comfort and luxury are top priority above anything else which the s class excels the bmw in without question or hesitation. S class was more comfortable despite the options it lacked and had a more premium feel AND despite the fact it was released 2-4 years BEFORE the bmw, that says a lot about how much bang per Buck you are getting and how much of a bargain the car is at any option level.
I never denied that both cars weren't optioned, I am just pointing out how the bmw was optioned considerably more than the merc, $30k to be exact!
Superior? What that's not what I said lol I just assumed, for sake of argument, that it has more technology than the s class (not that much more) and considering the 3 year gap between them that's not much of a statement for the bmw. That's what I meant by "technically better"
Realistically speaking however the s class is the undeniable better car, it has a better more elegant looking design and feels more special both inside and out, has a more premium feel than the bmw at any option level and feels more comfortable than the bmw, and practically almost matches it technology wise too (and even has things the bmw doesn't have like perfume dispenser) all despite being released 3 years earlier where bmw had years to study the s class. That makes it a clear winner.
If it was able to beat the bmw despite being that much older....imagine what the new s class will do to the bmw, it will absolutely rape it!
Wrong! build quality is equal on both cars, many reviews talk about this. Plastic are in hidden parts that would require an entire search of the car to find and the bmw has plastics too in the exact same manner. And like I said it was fake leather becuz they didn't option it to have real leather wheras they did for the bmw. With the s class you can take it beyond that and go brabus or maybach to which the s class is completely superior in terms of build quality in comparison to the bmw.
Haha dont act like you are anything but a bmw fanboy and merc hater cuz that's exactly what you are. Look in the mirror before you call others fanboys!
It's fact that they are equal on build quality, that's a false accusation made by bmw fanboys like yourself because the bmw can't beat the s class in terms of design and premium comfort..and so they wouldn't have much of an argument to defend their car based on what a premium luxury car is all about..(prove me otherwise where build quality of bmw is better without being more optioned then the merc).....and for the record.... As I already mentioned... maybach and brabus slap the BMW in terms of quality where the bmw can't compete at that level at all.
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LMAO WHAT???????
I NEVER SAID it was the superior car, I said it was better in technology (not by much). Then I explained how that this isn't
significant because their is a 3 year gap between the cars which you have to consider, which inevitably gives bmw more time to study the s class...making it a forgivable aspect
Haha who are you to say that?? ALL the reviews I showed you in the google doc links (PROOF) say how they are on par in build quality
S class was not fully optioned and yet it beat the bmw, so imagine what a equally optioned s class would do to the bmw, the s class at base model
already is more comfortable, so as you continue to add options the better the build quality gets, and you can even go for maybach/brabus/pullman limo versions
to step up of the quality even more which is so high that it even puts rr interior quality to the test. THIS IS THE FACT that I notice you always hide away from!
Haha you are so ignorant I swear, S class you can option to have real leather on the dash, you can also option to have magic body control air suspension advanced witch allows the
car to absorb the bumps even more easily.
"I already proved that s class build quality is poor" LMAO when?
Are we standing in front of the cars and pointing it out? lol, you didn't even give me links of reviews that explicitly say that! lol, you are talking out of your ass as usual!
"The lowesst trim 7 sereis has better build quality than highest trim s class"
CUT THE BULLSHIT LMAO!! Fact eh? You haven't proven shit!
Which is why the lower trim s class beat the higher trim 7 series right??? lol
And do you know what highes trim s class means lol? That means maybach pullman limo, that thing makes a rr look like crap, what do you think it will do to the bmw, it
makes the bmw feel like a bench!! lmao!!! And even highest version of standard s class puts the 7 series to shame lol!
Yes go ahead mention RR, maybach is miles better, has much better looking and feeling interior, is light years ahead in technology than it and a bargain for the price
lol of course you have to mention rr, because like i said, bmw can't compete with s class higher models, its gets eaten for breakfast lol!
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jamviator
"you admitted the bmw is superior"
No I didn't, don't put words in my mouth, i said it had more technology than the s class thats all
"24 months"
Lol a friendly way of saying 2-4 YEARS which is a massive amount of time when talking about the technology and automobile industry and even you know this
so don't try to hide from this
Haha "bmw revealed tech before" that is so stupid, thats even worse, that means they held back innovation, like how stupid is that.
New S class is already going to be out and it took bmw that long to get technology to market, that is sad and the dead opposite of a technological automobile leader!
Your comments appeared, I was just busy and didn't have the time to answer it as fast as I normally do
Post these links here or on the google doc I recently shared with you called pictures, its much easier for us that way
"Dude bmw makes RR"
Lol I already know that, thats why i am not surprised their interiors looks really old and outdated
"Maybach makes RR look like crap"
Yes, are you kidding, the S class makes the RR look like crap! WHy/HOW? Because the s class is light years ahead of it in
technology, has perfume dispenser, ambient lighting, better looking interior etc and yet it costs a FRACTION of the price! Hell that is an incredible bargain
The RR interior looks like its still stuck in the past that is just ridiculously old and outdated. I mean come on, even the 7 series interior looks better than it! lmao!
RR is just overated badge, it has nothing but heritage and name. It looks like a buffed up chrysler 300 too!
The standard s class is able to compete with the RR, so what do you think the maybach can do to the RR!
Maybach also comes as Pullman Limo Version to which the RR can't match.
And from there on you clearly have given up lol, try harder mate, i know you just being sarcastic. If you don't want to talk about this then just say so
We can agree to disagree and call it a day and say to each their own and walk away
Or we can talk about the amg gt vs i8 or about something we both will agree on?
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jamviator
I mentioned e class because you said "Mercedes doesn't have this technology" WHEN IT DOES
And like i said its not a copy, its an innovation on the idea using the phone instead of the key which is more practical
to a lot of people
Haha Bmw still uses old light bulbs, it doesn't know what time period its in.... its head (tail lights) are peaking into the future of lazer lights while
the rest of the car is stuck in the past with light bulbs, yuck! Yes lazer lights are better, not for their price tho. LEDs are the more cost effective option
Lazers are not as good as their price tags
Yes Mercedes had wireless charging before bmw, so I just exposed your ignorance, you said ""merc doens't have this haha"
haha look in the mirror you ignorant
bmw fanboy! I just proved to you it does! You were spreading lies on YouTube
Command is brilliant and much better than iCan'tDrive, its not a copy, its actually much better and came before it. Mercedes also has a tablet that you can control the tablet with dumbass
in fact you can even install an app on your phone so you control everything from your phone or smart watch let alone tablet, they had this long time ago genius!
Carbon fibre lol, last time i checked these are luxury cars not race cars, luxury cars that already approach the 2 ton mark, so in fact its bmw thats ripping you off with the Carbon fibre bullshit, lmao, who are they
trying to fool, moter trend debunked their use of it hard.Theres nothing embarissing, 7 sereis faster to 60mph, so what? who cares>?>??lmao, when you buy a luxury car you don't buy it for 0-60 times, you want a graceful calm acceleration
not a violent one like the bmw that will spill your drink and everything! If you want faster 0-60 times then thats what amg and brabus are for
I didn't say bmw doesn't have the drowsiness sensors you blind piece of shit, you claimed mercedes doesn't have it when in fact it does, spreading your bs lies like a typical bmw fangirl
The s class can actually do that what adaptive drive does it has 360 camera system too. Drowsiness is just another feature, not the only feautere
"Oh I take that back" Lol what an idiot, you just exposed yourself, you know the s class looks better and more elegant and more special in every way but because you are so attached to the 7 series as a bmw fanboy
you keep changing your mind, you are confused because you are lying to yourself, your bias tells you bmw but reality tells you otherwise
S class back seat looks much better, the ambient lighting curves gracefully around the whole back, the car also has a refrigerator for your drink too! Stone massage (not just any kind of massage)..etc...
And if you go for the maybach, long wheel base version/brabus or pull man versions, those rape the 7 series completely, where the 7 stands absolutely no chance what so ever
(see the google doc photos)
"S class interior looks better in the front"
So it took you that long to wake up?
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And remember these two things.
S class has more public and reviewer vote and sales despite being released 3 years before the bmw
and
There is a new s class coming this year, and considering how well they competed against the 7 series with there older model (before the 7 series had time to study the s class) the new one will blow the bmw out of the water completely.
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And while we are on the subject of Merc vs Bmw....
It seems that you didn't reply to my other comment how the AMG GT (s/c/r) is better than the i8.
And how the amg are building a hypercar where as m seems to be sleeping.
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stormydayx7 If you take a look at that aya its says:
"Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors". 2 (190)
Let me ask you a question, do you read a book from the beginning to end or from some random part in the middle? This is clearly the act of cherry picking random verses from quran that seem to be violet without any understanding about the previous and after verses.
To be honest, just from these two points alone I shouldn't even be wasting my time with you.
But...I will try to educate you...
"Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief] is worse than killing...but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"
No matter how many non-Muslims I meet, they always quote this Surah and completely out of context, plus they fail to read the previous and the following verses to understand it better. Just because you see the word "kill" in it, does not mean that you can prove something, unless you take everything out of context, which you did and you knowingly try to deceive people. Before I say anything further, you need to understand that when you translate something in to English or other languages, it is extremely difficult, because some words mean something different in other languages, while some words could mean several things. That is why you should read it in the authentic language to understand it better. But no worries I am willing to answer these for you and brace yourself, this will be a huge comment. This Surah goes like this according to the new Sahih International translation: Qur'an Surat Al-Baqarah 2:191-193:
"2:191 And kill them wherever you overtake them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers."
"2:192 And if they cease, then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful."
"2:193 Fight them until there is no [more] fitnah and [until] worship is [acknowledged to be] for Allah . But if they cease, then there is to be no aggression except against the oppressors."
Now let us not forget to read the previous verse and then the following verse to understand this better and why the Qur'an says this. "2:190 Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors." "2:194 [Fighting in] the sacred month is for [aggression committed in] the sacred month, and for [all] violations is legal retribution. So whoever has assaulted you, then assault him in the same way that he has assaulted you. And fear Allah and know that Allah is with those who fear Him." Okay, now the reason behind these verses… You fail to realise what Allah is saying and why these verses are in the Qur'an. First of all, Allah is commanding you to fight those people that try to assault you first, Allah is saying to fight those that wish to oppress you or other people, fight those people that do wrong and are evil. Allah is telling you to kill those that wish to kill you first. In short this is only for people in the battlefield, not for people like us. Allah says to fight those that wish to fight you first, similarly every Sergeant Major in any Army is training his Cadets/Soldiers to kill or be killed. Do you see the point now? Allah says fight for Islam, fight those that wish to corrupt the religion of Islam, fight those that wish to control you, fight those that wish to oppress you, fight those that try to kill you, fight those that wish to harm your loved ones. Allah is not saying "grab a weapon and start killing innocent people", you need to first read the Qur'an completely without skipping any verses to understand it better. Also you fail to realise that these verses were talking about war, please educate yourself regarding Islam first, before you jump to conclusions.
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jamviator haha get out of here with your load of shit. You have time to make stupid claims but no time to research and provide evidence! The reviewer is a bmw fanboy, he never said one remotely bad thing about the car... Facts? This is just his own bias, ITS totally biased bull shit and Even bmw fans know this. Don't pretend like you are anything but a bmw fanboy,.
S class has won endless reviews in comparison to the 7 series
Car wow motertrend, vv, I could go on and on
Oh and this is despite the fact that the merc is nearly 2-4 years OLDER THAN the 7 seores, so bmw had all that time to make something better yet they Lost! Lmao, and s class has more technology and also BMW could only copy Mercedes with ambient lighting and some of those technologies, so sad. S class is so good they even compare it to bently and rolls Royce despite the price difference.
The e class and 5 series are essentially mini versions of the respective s and 7 segments with respect to the fact they share a lot of DNA with their bigger brothers, so if Mercedes won that many reviews and sales on such a good recipe what do you think the e will do to the bmw.
They are both on par in technology for the most part, despite the fact that the e class came before the bimmer, bmw these days is playing catch up to Mercedes a sign that mercedes is the lewder in innovation
Plus s class comes as a sedan, coupe, cabriplet, maynach, pull man limo, brabus, so many more options for buyer.
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jamviator Lmao I don't know why Google plus didn't show this POST earlier.
You have yet to back up any of your claims. I will give you the ambient lighting tho.
Mercedes does not copy more you haven't provided a shred of evidence... Lol it's not just flashing lights, there is also perfume dispenser which no other car has but I can even take it further as I already schooled you on how Mercedes was the world's first modern car company and every body copied them.
S class won nearly every car review so your argument about matt liking the s class more is futile. He liked it more despite the fact the BMW had 20k options more, that shows how even lower teer s class can beat higher optioned 7 series. And almost every person and every reviewer admits that the s class looks more elegant than the 7 series, EVEN YOU Admitted it!
Again you are all talk no proof. It is not better in every technical point at all.
And btw remote parking is in fact better on a phone as you can even use a smart watch and it offers the driver far more features than a $3000 key ever could.
And build quality of 7 series is not better than s class, are you joking, and yes bring it rr interiors look ugly as hell and are light years behind on technology ... making the maybach the ultimate land yacht.
The reality is s class is the leader of it's segment and has won nearly every car review over the 7 series and outsells it time and time again despite the fact that BMW had 2-3 years to make something better and yet they lost, HOW PATHETIC
And like said s class has the upper hand on the 7 series at all angles... 7 series comes only as a sedan. S class comes as a sedan, a coupé, a cabriolet, amg, brabys, maybach, Pullman limo and emperor
BMW can't even touch those cars
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I believe facts thank you very much
"The 7 series is better in every technical respect"
You have yet to provide a shred of evidence for that absurd statement.
"The only argument you have is that s class feels special"
Lmao that clearly shows that you skipped over my arguments since you can't argue against them
For starters even if we assume that Citroen first had the perfume dispenser (which you haven't provided evidence for at all) the BMW DOESN'T HAVE IT WHEREAS THE MERCEDES DOES. So nice try at dodging the argument, you failed. The point is not who did it first but the fact that the s class has it and the 7 series doesn't. You obviously didn't want to address this point directly because you don't want to admit this.
Other arguments in favour of the s class:
The 7 series only comes as a sedan, where as the s class comes as a sedan, coupe, cabriolet, amg, brabus, Maybach, pullman limo and even emperor. No 7 series can even touch those s classes (FACT)
Moreover the Mercedes is just as technically advanced as the bmw despite being released 2-3 years before the bmw and yet is more comfortable and elegant than the bmw which is big factor/game changer for these cars. Again this is not only me saying this but nearly every review comparison comes to this conclusion
And yes Karl Benz invented the modern car that we know and love today, this is an undeniable fact(and don't take my word for it, just look at nearly every single article on the internet for starters). and EVEN IF YOU DON"T ACNOWLEDGE THIS, Mercedes was the worlds first modern car company period. every one else copied them. THIS IS UNDENIABLE FACT no matter how much this truth pains you to hear.
"I'm done with you"
Lol you never started to begin with. Just a comment earlier you were saying "bring it" and now you willingly and admittedly give up!
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Ahh you never change do you, all talk but not a shred of proof, no surprise there
1- show me proof
2- wheres the proof?????
3- Actually that does make a difference, you are clearly are ignorant for thinking otherwise. It means that the company cares about their customers and offers them more than one kind of model, infact a whole spectrum, whereas bmw is so behind/late that they can only offer a sedan version. And rr is overated and overpriced. Lmao, under your own logic, Maybach destroys rr on every technical and subjective level. Rr interiors look ugly and outdated for starters. RR is also light years behind in technology, I don't think it even has basic park assist and brake assist that even a ford has! how PATHEIC for a car that costs as much as a house! Not to mention that the s class has more features like ambient lighting and perfume dispenser to name a few that I aleady discussed. And Maybach is also more exclusive than rr. So rr is almost nothing but a badge!
4 - Yes it is, prove otherwise, what technology does it have that no other Mercedes doesn't? Lmao no its not faster at every rev range and that is not relevant when discussing luxury saloons which are about comfort not performance. Hell no s class is just as if not more efficient than the bmw, stop making absurd claims out of your ass. And s class is more comfortable, this has been proven in nearly every review which is ultimately what matters for these cars, its not a race, they are not performance sport cars
5 - You haven't proved your statement at all. and sales and reviews speak otherwise. The reality is the s class is the better car regardless of weather you are willing to admit it or not. The people have spoken, reviewers deem it to be the champ, people in general like it better and to no surprise it continues to outsell the 7 series. That's the truth
He didn't patent someone elses invention, and even if you hold that view this doesn't change the fact that Mercedes was the worlds first modern car company and everybody else copied them.
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Kaisuke971 lmao thanks for admitting it, the difference is that Mercedes is holding on to the v8 for as long as it can, a true company that cares and fights for its customers in that respect instead of chicking out to v6s and inline 6s so quickly.
More hp and torque doesn't make a car a competitor lmao that is the dumbest logic I have ever heard. So by your logic then a Dodge Challenger with 700 hp will be better than a lot of these German cars.
The reality is that gt3 rs is the more track oriented version which is the one that competes with and got it's ass handed to it by the amg gt r. No BMW nor auto can touch it, which is my point. Gt2 is different market, sure it cokes with pdk but its the manual that will sell like hotcakes because thats what people will buy it for, its not as track focused like the gt3 rs which is more about lap time. So essentially gt2 is kind of like an updated gt3.
And i am well aware that mercedes makes utility veichles. Realize tho thats why the company in gemeral is better than bmw. They offer a wider spectrum of cars like unimogs and the g wagon and 6x6 which bmw cant even touch. The also offer trucks like the astros. Actually luxury wise mercedes still beats bmw for even a very simple reason, they offer greater variety to their customers from engine sizes to varients. The 7 series for example only comes as a sedan, s class on the other hand comes as a sedan, a coupe, a cabriolet, amg, maybach, pullman limo and even emperor which no bmw can touch
There are no exuses - not even financially(who's fualt is that for not being able to get into that market, BMW s own fault!), that means Mercedes is the better company as simple as that as you just indirectly admited it.
When did i deny its existence? I am well aware its aided through the speakers, however that is not the same thing as being fake which is what you were claiming.
You are the one who is denying this.
Wrong lmao how is it wrong? You cant even explain how! You just dont like it because the truth hurts you to see/hear. Thats whats really sad. Cant say i expected anything different from a die hard bme fanboy
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Kaisuke971 You failed to grasps the point again, MERCEDES KEPT THE V8 ALIVE, whereas Audi and Bmw didn't. They all had to sucum to fuel regulations but the difference is Audi and BMW panicked and went straight to maiktg inline 6s instead of trying to make a more efficient v8, probably cuz they can't. And yes it's for better fuel efficiency. The point is that the car is no longer a gas guzzler yet still doesss not compromise on providing a v8 and it's glorious rumble unlike BMW and Audi. V8 is generally better than inline 6, that's what I am saying.
Sure you can enjoy it, but those inline 6 and v8 engines will never match the rumble of the v8. No history ?!?!lmao you need to do your research then, slr mcleran is a good place to start. And the point is that v8s sound better so having them presently is significant when you look at the fact that bmw and audi are shying away from them. The sound is what's glorious, again you fail to understand, smh
Right, which is why BMW uses xDrive and Audi has quattro, you are missing the point the e63 was always competitive, by giving it awd however you give the driver more flexibility and options and traction. It's more like a "why not"? Rather than a desperate attempt and the proof is that they designed it so that is both rwd and awd when you ehlant it, so it's the best of both worlds, so your argument about staying competitive is pure bs.
Oh you are those idiots who thinks up is everything? Huh what am idiot no surprise. It's not about horse power, it's about weight to power ratio you idiot. So yes it's nothing impressive, same reason why lmp cars don't have to have big engines to be able to have a lot of up because they are really light
It's just about lap times, what's the point if the car can beat the 918 and then breaks down the next second, it's pure bs, it's more than Lap times, very remenecent of Mercedes being more reliable than BMW.
Alfa is Better than both and sure for a sports sedan if you don't care about interior BMW is the way to go, but for me interior is a big deal, Mercedes interior design is much more elegant like that if a luxury car and I am like a fusion if luxury elegsant design and sport as opposed to just hard core Lao figures and a tenth of a second difference is not a big deal for a car I spend more time in the interior on streets than I will racing it on a track. So yes it does more than make for a mere second.
It's a sign of being a fanboy, why do you feel the need to express your YouTube account logo as a bmw if you didn't feel passionate or any personal connection with it. And it's not a bad thing to be a fanboy, its bad to be hating one tho that just twoks crap without realizing that they are being hypocritical. If you like something you are by definition a fan. And it's not necessarily a bad thing.
I am talking about amg gt r to test that very premise. That's exactly my pointc that's why no BMW can touch the gt r, because they don't even have anything to compete with it. So then if you just said that.... on that note it should be easy for you to say: "no BMW can touch the amg gt r" it's a test to see how whether you are an (arrgogant) fanboy. Since you always resist to say it, cuz you don't want to admit it.
YOU FINALLY ADMITTED IT!! was that so hard? That's all you had to do: "yes hasan it sounds better but I prefer quite sound" and bam you have a valid point unlike the jealous fanboy you were yesterday calling it fake as a way to make your self feel better for not wanting to admit that it sounded better. That's all you had to say. Yes nothing wring with that except I like the fact that the e43 sounds better paticualy because it's a SPORT SEDAN so that's an expectation for me.... But sure.. to each there own
And I wasn't struggling but yes you refreshed my memory.... You started off well but slowly fell down the m5 path and stopped defending the e63s wagon which was your original claim....I basically took it front there and crossed the finish line to out it in perspective as I have the final word on that thread and no one has commented back aruguing. so you started it I will give you that, but then stopped and I carried over till the end.... So if any buddy struggled it definitely wasn't me....sometimes you know it doesn't hurt to look in the mirror before you make claims about others..... which brings us back to here. But I will OVERALL give it to you for this one since you at least made some effort.
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Kaisuke971don't think you saw my comment above so here it is again:
+Kaisuke971
“Poor Hasan i'm gonna crush his dreams again.”
In your dreams (note the irony!) sorry pal, but the only thing you would be able to crush is your own logic, that is if you had it to begin with….
“ First of all Audi has a V6 not an Inline 6”
When did I say it didn't? I said the bmw went to inline 6 and audi went to v6, point being that they ditched the v8 (was that to fast for you?)
“BMW went to the inline 6 because it's the layout they have used the most, it's the classic BMW engine. If you drive a BMW, you want an Inline 6.”
Lmao, still not an excuse, just admit it, they couldn’t make a efficient v8 and instead of trying to innovate a way to keep it alive they chickened out to what they know how to do.
“ Because you know, some people don't like when their car sounds like a damn truck talking about rumble boi buy a Scania 😂”
Lol a unique way of portraying your jealousy. Everyone knows v8s sound better, and that rumble is part of their chcarcter and guess what, contrary to your belief you can control how much of it is allowed using the sports exhaust button and wheter you are in sport mode or not thanks to intelligent valve control by amg, very much like the huracan between going in strada to corsa the exhaust opens up. So you have control over it unlike a scania and no scania will not sound as good as a v8 by amg, you wish hah. Guess what most people DO LIKE THEIR CARS to have character instead of sounding like a vacuum cleaner…cough bmw cough cough
“And btw, the SLR was SUPERCHARGED 😂😭💀And the C63 sounds like shit compared to the W204,”
No it doesn’t sound like shit. Sure old c63 sounded better, but not that much , specifically, not worth how much of a gas guzzler it was. The new one sounds great and unlike the older one isn’t a misquito on fuel. SO that more than makes up for the tradeoff
“ plus it only sound better than the M3 and the Giulia because they both sound weird af lol,”
oh I see lol, so the c63 sounds better because the competition sounds like shit? Gotacha lmao, good one, is that your excuse for being worse? Whos fault is that, oh right the same people who said "screw it we can't make an efficient enough v8 so let's just do what we are used to.." Lmao! These are sports cars for cyring outloud, their duty is to put a smile on your face and a huge part of that is the character of the car. And exhaust note is a key part that makes a significant portion of that character.
“ the RC F eats it ALIVE “
lmao rc f is garbage, its sound is fake and even if we take exhaust note as a plus is ridicuoulsoy heavy and not fun to corner at all, see top gears review on it and even moter trend and car wow, its not a great car. In fact since you mention it see redline reviews who in the c63s video specifaclly talks about how he enjoys it more than the lexus rc f.
“The E63 wasn't always competitive. The pre-facelift E63 was the SLOWEST car in its class, by FAR. You just can't admit it. It was barely quicker than the E60 M5, and it was slower than the then outgoing RS6. “
It was competitive, it just wasn’t as good, theres a difference, and not by far by a reasonable amount. You just contradicted yourself infact, you said it was the slowst car in its class then you admitted that it was quicker!?!?! You see what I mean, you are talking right out of your ass.
“They didn't put AWD because why not, they got CORNERED by the M5 that had a monster engine and the Quattro, it was the only way ! “
Yes they didn’t do it because they got cornered, so under your logic than why does the bmw need 4 wheel steering and upcoming xdrive? Lmao get out of here with your bs. They did it cuz they can and have engineered it so that it can be BOTH rwd and awd. When you have the technology why not use it. Why offer only rwd when you can offer BOTH! It shows they care about customers and want to give them a lot of flexibility.
“The C63 has a better power to weight ratio and torque to weight ratio than the M3, FACTS.”
Please, You say facts yet fail to provide a shred of evidence for your claims
C63 Coupe = 0.11
http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=493757%0AM4 = 0.12
http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=509179
Other way around, bmw has the higher power to weight ratio. Hopefully you take your bias and throw it in the trash can and realize that the reason why they are not even a second off each other is because they have very similar power to weight ratios. That’s why even tho the bmw has a smaller engine it can still compete with the Mercedes, because it is lighter. So there is nothing special at all, and you just exposed your ignorance by claiming that one it’s a fact without putting resources where your mouth is and two ranting about how the m4 has less hp even tho that doesn’t matter since it is lighter and thus still has a similar power to weight ratio as the merc. So take your biased bs out of it, they are both performance masterpieces.
“The BMW is just sharper and has a better engine so at the end the raw numbers don't shine as they should (like in this video lol).”
Lmao you realize that the e43 was faster right? Pause at 4 seconds for example and look at the speed of both, the one on the merc is higher. But that’s not the point, the point is that they are equally close and in the real world you wouldn’t notice much a off a difference between the two. In otherwords if you had to tell which one was faster by individually sitting in one and driving you wouldn’t be able to tell so easily.
“ I said that the E43 sounds better like three times and each time i said that the 540i's sound suits it better but since you're slow it had to be repeated for you to finally integrate the info 🤣”
Lmao you failed to realize my point then, these are supposed to be sports sedans, and sound is part of a sporty cars character, so the fact that the e43 sounds much better is a major plus for the benz. So no the 540i’s sound doesn’t suit it better, it should sound more sporty but it fails at doing that which should be part of the m sport experience. I am not slow, oh no I got it its just that you keep misinterpreting my points or ignore them all together
The E43 is only a "sport" sedan.
Only? Are you joking it’s a luxury sedan too, do you not understand what I am telling you? It has the perfect blend of sportiness and luxury/elegance
It can't beat a regular 5er in a straight
It just did, and like I said before you wouldn’t be able to tell which one is faster without a watch/dragrace if you were testing them individually back to back.
“ and gets eaten by it in the corners lol “
lol really? Where I don’t see that, bmw fanboys always like to say that but don’t provide a shred of proof. Seriously just get out if you wanna make these silly claims
“If you want a sporty car of this category without paying over 100k, the M550i is the way to go.”
In YOUR OPINION and are you talking about the new or old one? Cuz the new one isn’t even out yet.
“ Just no car in the class right now combines the dynamism and perf of that car. That's just the way it is”
Just because you say that doesn’t mean its true? Lmao have you driven it? Its not even out yet and you are already speculating out of your ass. That is pure bs, sure it will have great dynamics but I think that’s where you and I differ. You seem to just care about performance, and dynamics, I care about sport performance AND elegant luxury which no other car masters as beautifully as the e43 and e63 imo.
“Hey Hasan i heard you liked stupid comparisons. No Mercedes can touch the S100RR 😂😂😂”
You really want to go there? I compared cars to cars, you are comparing bikes to cars, so you are the one who is comparing apples to oranges, literally! but I will give it to you sure, no Mercedes can touch it. Totally legit comparison, its only stupid to those who are afraid to admit it. But guess what?
Don't celebrate just yet, Mercedes will have something to teach bmw a lesson!
http://www.bmwblog.com/2016/01/29/mercedes-amg-gets-serious-about-bikes-also/
https://motorbikewriter.com/mercedes-amg-unveils-solarbeam-f3/
No Bmw can touch:
The AMG GT R
The AMG Project ONE 1000 hp hyper car
The G wagon
The Maybach Landaulet
The 6x6
The Maybach S class (and Pullman Limo and Emperor)
The Astros
Any Mercedes Unimog
Arrow460
Clk Gtr
Slr Mcleran
Sls amg bs
Sl300
If you want me to keep going just let me know.
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lol
I have sat in it and the resolution is absolutly gorgous, so you are so full of crap. It looks nothing like 1920's tv. They are dual 12" screens and look miles better than the bmw...
The s class looks like a land yacht, its interior is much better looking and the screens help contribute to that.
They are not ugly,
digital dials are the future whether you like them or not, Mercedes cars about innovation,
They allow you to give the driver so much more information in the same amount of space and they are also much more custimizable as well, you can have the map full screen, you can combine certain dials you want and the map and truely configure it to your tastes as you use it day to day.
Analog dials are just like analog clocks, they will slowly be replaced by this new technology, and as a company that strives to lead the automobile industry in technology, merecedes has to make sure its top of the line model is reflective of that goal.
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+TechBoot
Lmao yes it does have autopilot dude. In fact mercedes had autopilot way before tesla. Its just that tesla was better at marketing it.
Mercedes had radar cruise control and distronic plus all the way back before tesla even released the model s. These systems didn't just maintain the speed for you they also kept you in your lane and in the cars can even follow the car in front of it......these are the core and foundation of what semi autonomous vehicles do today. Thats what it means to be semi autonomous . And with the s class has intelligent drive which is autopilot which not only does that but can actually read traffic lights, speed limit signs and adjust accordingly, signal and change lanes for you, use gps to figure out when the car will turn by itself at an intersection. Not just like tesla but better even. It can drive itself the whole way and it doesn't require you to grip the wheel, just to touch it with a quick tap (since the steering wheel has a tiny track pad). . Tesla also requires you holding the wheel every few seconds.
Here is just one example
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDwMhSobaOg
And even beyond that the S class is far more luxurious and comfortable than the tesla while also being more technologically advanced. S class doesn't just stop at autopilot, it also has air bag seat belts, the rear lights flash if someone is about to hit you, head lights that turn slightly to the side so that you can have high beam at all times, stone massaging seats, ambient lighting, perfume dispensor, magic body control (which scans the road ahead for bumps and prepares the suspension ahead of time so you can even go over a speed bump and not know it!)And yes it is worth to mention the specifics regardless whether you mentioned it or not because it means you are betting a lot more car for the money with the s class. And you did indirectly mention it...you said "half the stuff in those cars". You need to be specific by what you mean by stuff/extras. they are not unnessary. They redefine the experience and make it more convenient, enjoyable luxurious comfortable and safer. If you want to be the top having distinguishing features and extras like that are necessary.
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+Feelsqtpman
LMAO
I gave a whole essay on why its better and you have the audacity to talk like that?!?! "0 arguements" says the one that couldn't counter a single one of my arguements!
Look in the mirror before you talk! You have no arugments at all let alone counter arguements!
Nice 5 year old comeback! Oh wait I take that back, even a 5 year old is more mature than you! You couldn't counter a single one of my points ....so all you could do was swear! Can't say I am surprised though since you never had an arguement to begin with.
Lmao I gave more arguments than you probably have in your entire life time!
E class has a much nicer looking interior. Audi looks outdated big time. E class is has far more features than the rs6 (FACT) (like ambient lighting, perfume dispenser, stone massaging seats to name a few) and is light years ahead of the rs6 in technology (FACT) (autopilot, air bag seat belts, night vision, magic body control which scans the road ahead for bumps and prepares the suspension ahead of so you can even go over a speed bump and not know it!) Not to mention if you want performance there is the e63 which eats the rs6 for breakfast in acceleration and sounds better too!
Also its only non amgs that are taxis and only in some parts of the world. in north america for example they aren't taxis.. And the e class being a taxi is no bad thing. Its a compliment actually, its a testament to the durability of mercedes....out of all the companies germany could have choosen they choose mercedes because its far more luxurious and far more reliable and comfortable than the other companies. Furthermore these cars are not meant to be flashy, thats what amg is partly for. They are meant to be under the radar, hence the concept of stealth wealth, so by looking like taxis they are able to blend in better and thus achieve that concept.
Now, wheres your arguements mr loud mouth hypocrite.
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+Latvieti96
You utter moron
That flew past your dense head. He didn't say bmw don't have sports cars, he said that bmw have a wide variety of automobiles
M4 CS GTS there was the c63 black series and a new one around the corner
m4 dtm there is the cc63 dtm
M2 there is the a45 which will have a sedan version soon
m5 there is teh e63
x5m there is the glc63
x6m there is the gle63
These are not better or faster..you are just fanboying real hard. It all depends on the customer and what their prefrences.
In comparison mercedes not only has those that I just mentioned but also the amg gt, the amg gt r, the sls and sls black series, the project one hyper car, the 4x4, the 6x6, the acctros and unimogs, the maybach, f1 world champions etc etc....in otherwords....mercedes has an answer for almost every bmw car but bmw doesn't have an answer to every mercedes. Mercedes don't just make sports cars, they make supercars and hypercars which are in leagues above any m product. Thats his point. Having said that however that doesn't take away from the excellence of m cars. But it does mean you should stop fanboying because there is a lot to appreciate from both companies.
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+integrazimmy
I still don't see how providing a 12mp camera is bad considering how well it does against the competition. Sure you could argue that the v30 camera is better with respect to its wider wide angle lens which I totally understand. However the samsungs better zoom (2x), optical image stabilization on both lenses, and live focus (amoung many other feature) and its better front facing camera more than make up for that. Thus it depends on your prefrences and priorities.
Bixby is in its BETA stages. If anything I see that as a good thing not a bad thing. Because we already know that despite being a beta it is already way more advanced than google assistant andsiri despite their 6 year plus experience! This means that this is just the tip of the ice burg...and if samsung was already this far ahead in beta imagine how far ahead it will be as a finished product! It also shows their honesty in that they still have so much they can put into it to make it even better. Its like the appetizer of whats to come. And yet even as an appetizer its more advanced than already finished voice assitants like siri and google assitant!
The telephoto lens as the name implies is mmainly for taking photographs from a far away distance yet still having and keeping a good resolution. This is especially great for when you are recording or taking a picture of something which you have to keep a good distance away from anyways. So many people will use it. People already record with cameras that don't come anywhere near to the note 8s so there is no reaosn to suggest they wouldn't use it. Thats not true. The note 8 does better (and has a better resolution) with zooming images and videos than the lg in practically all light settings thanks to having a dedicated telephoto lens. The lg is better with respect to its wide angle lens....where you don't have to go back as much in oder to capture the whole image of a land mark for example.
Dex like bixby is jus tthe tip of the ice burg. I don't see the problem of it not being fully included since with that purchase you can turn your phone into a more portable and lighter experience than a laptop. This will be bought by those particularly who use it for work related things.
Virtually not practically. Samsung is so far the only ones who have a gif creator built into the phone itself which makes it way more capable than anything a store one will offer..not to mention it will be able to make a gif for nearly every single kind of video and app you can think of thanks to this.
Where LG beats samsung in some set ups and technologies Samsung beats LG in others. Its equally brain washed to suggest otherwise.
It wasn't only the selfie cam, theres the iris scanner, bixby, the features I already mentioned, as well as convenient features like scrollable screen shots, taking notes under water and even when the display is off.....the feature where if you look away from watching a video it automatically pauses and vise versa....the ability to scroll through media using your eyes (via natural up and down eye movement), vr....just to name a few amoung many others.
I am a samsung fan not a fanboy. Huge difference. Thus I still have massive respect for companies like LG and wouldn't tell someone not to get the v30 over the note 8. Its just that in the same light to pretend the note 8 doesn't differentiate from the v30 is being incredibly arrogant.
I understand that the price is quite high but depending on your prefrences it is worth it. Especially considering that the price is inevitably going to drop soon anyway not to mention that previous note 7 users get a $425 discount.
The Note 8 is an upgraded S8+ The S8+ is close to $800. So the Note gives you 2 gb more ram, S Pen, Dual camera and a bigger screen for $200.
Most apple users are willing to pay that kind of money just for more storage let alone the features the note 8 comes with I mentioned above and more. So in that respect its not bad at all.
The Note 8 is in a catagory of its own with the s pen ....thus its more between the s8 vs v30 as opposed to the note 8 vs v30 since the note 8 is more of a phablet rather than just a phone.
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Car Freak haha thanks for admitting you are a toxic hater.
Real car enthusiasts appreciate all cars and what they bring to the table. Meanwhile haters like you are just triggered 12 year old who are clueless idiots.
Mercs old school lives strong to this day. Amg are producing cars leagues above the rest. Literally. Amg gt r, project one hypercar, 4x4, 6x6 actors, unimogs... Dominance in f1. Mercedes are Alice and well. And this year they are doing better than ever. In fact they are the world's most valuable company:
https://youtu.be/_yIxTDH3nfA
haha thanks for admitting you are a toxic hater.
Real car enthusiasts appreciate all cars and what they bring to the table. Meanwhile haters like you are just triggered 12 year old who are clueless idiots.
Mercs old school lives strong to this day. Amg are producing cars leagues above the rest. Literally. Amg gt r, project one hypercar, 4x4, 6x6 actors, unimogs... Dominance in f1. Mercedes are Alice and well. And this year they are doing better than ever. In fact they are the world's most valuable company:
https://youtu.be/_yIxTDH3nfA
haha thanks for admitting you are a toxic hater.
Real car enthusiasts appreciate all cars and what they bring to the table. Meanwhile haters like you are just triggered 12 year old who are clueless idiots.
Mercs old school lives strong to this day. Amg are producing cars leagues above the rest. Literally. Amg gt r, project one hypercar, 4x4, 6x6 actors, unimogs... Dominance in f1. Mercedes are Alice and well. And this year they are doing better than ever. In fact they are the world's most valuable company:
https://youtu.be/_yIxTDH3nfA
Quality has never been higher before which more than justifies the price. They are not overpriced... They are breaking records winning races and have the best sounding turbo engines in the business. Keep living in your delusional bubble. You freak. Literally.
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Archangel 28 I put friends in quotations.... Its an expression.
Yes challenged them. Objective?
Tons of objective reasons. One, nearly every car reviewer says its the best. Two it out sells lexus. Three it is light years ahead of lexus in technolog. It has more features and luxurious amenities than lexus. Its more comfortable, more luxurious,.... Etc etc... And I'm not even scratching the surface. Theres also the fact that it comes as a coupe, cabriolet, amg 63, 65, brabus, maybach, pullman limo, emperor whereas Lexus ls only comes as a sedan and coupe if you sound the lc500. S class also has quiter cabin and better transmission too and again I'm not even scratching the surface.
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