Comments by "Sababugs112" (@sababugs1125) on "Geopolitics of the Black Sea" video.

  1. As a Georgian we lost control of abkazia in the 90s and not during the 2008 war .the 2008 war was about a different thing
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  2.  @JabbarTV1  not to get all .russia bad because x and Georgia bad because y and like that. So basically in 1991 a military conflict started in abkazia between Georgia and the self-proclaimed government of abkazia in which abkazia received support from russia which gave them weapons and equipment Russia also sent in volunteers , but many people claim that the volunteers were actually regular army troops .also at that time Georgia was also in a conflict with South Ossetia (samachablo) which russia also took part in . during 2008 tensions were at a very high point so a war started in which Georgia did loose but abkazia didn't get involved in the war that much only joining in at the end of the war and barely participating in it . also not that many territorial changes took place during the war and no territorial changes took place in the coast
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  3.  @polishherowitoldpilecki5521  defend them by supporting war criminals?
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  4.  @polishherowitoldpilecki5521  also Georgia is a secular nation also abkazia and Ossetia dont speak Russian as their main language they have their own languages
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  5.  @polishherowitoldpilecki5521  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamani_massacre
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  6.  vann tedd  we have pictures and un reports of those massacres .btw Georgia and Ukraine are independent nations and can join what ever organizations they want to with out russian approval .if Ukraine wanted to merge with Zimbabwe and both countries agreed technically they wouldn't be doing anything wrong .its not Russias business to control other nations foreign policy . btw Americas actions dont justify Russias
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  7.  @TheBobVova  Mate at that moment you were actively helping a military force at war against a neutral nation.that force displaced a majority of a population only based on their ethnicity and political alignment . abkazia was Georgian territory legally ,making the conflict tied to Georgia while Georgia isnt russian territory so Georgia joining nato isn't an attack on russia . a attack against russia would be if Georgia gave Chechnya weapons to fight against russia.
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  8.  @polishherowitoldpilecki5521  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhumi_massacre
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  9.  @polishherowitoldpilecki5521  the eu report was commissioned by russia .also lots of people in Georgia also speak russian that doesn't make the Georgian language not our main language . including the wars in the 90s Georgia has at most killed around 2.1 k civilians if go off the highest estimates , if go off more reasonable one the number is like 1.4k while Georgia with the lowest estimates has lost 14k people and more reasonable estimates say that Georgia has lost 35 k .it is very clear who killed who
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  10.  @polishherowitoldpilecki5521  also in 2008 hrw and the eu didn't find Georgia guilty of genocide and ethnic cleansing
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  11.  @TheBobVova  russia represents a threat to Georgia and many other nations but until it attacks it doesn't give them a right to attack it. Georgian foreign policy is Georgian and unless it directly involves russia like Georgia making a agreement with russia specifically .russia doesn't have a right to get involved with out being asked to get involved
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  12.  @TheBobVova  nato is a defensive pact so it will become an enemie when it gets attacked
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  13.  @TheBobVova  nato was founded to protect against the ussr not to attack the ussr.
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  14.  @giopa110888  i meant like on a grand scale which affects geopolitics .
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  15.  @TheBobVova  article 5 states that an attack on one country means an attack on all
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  16.  @TheBobVova  ok then how many nato bombers have bombed russian troops ? How many nato solders are in Russia ?how many nato bases are in russia ?
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  17.  @TheBobVova  also how is georgia joining nato an attack on russia
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  18.  @TheBobVova  oh yes Georgia a country of 3.7 million is a threat to russia a country of 140 million if anything russia is a threat to us .also when has nato attacked a nation which had a military alliance treaty with russia ?
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  19.  @TheBobVova  wasn't the bombings a result of the ethnic cleansing of Albanians
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  20.  @TheBobVova  1. Nato was founded as a defensive pact against russia 2. Just because they rejected you doesn't make them an enemie 3.they bombed a country which didn't have a military alliance with russia 4. The bases around russia are there with permission of the host country so russia has no say in what the other independent country does
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  21.  @TheBobVova  uhh its natos choice who they wanna accept in their alliance .also in russia the same guy has been in power for the past 20 years.
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  22.  @TheBobVova  it would more be nato= police & russia = citizen if Russia shoots then the police shoots but if russia stays put the police doesn't shoot
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  23.  @TheBobVova  when has nato attacked russia ? when did nato troops fire on Russian troops?
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  24.  @TheBobVova  first of all i dont have a sister and second if you dont say that you are military supporter of the specific nation then you do not have the ground to declare that attack an attack against you
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  25.  @TheBobVova  so that doesn't make nato an enemie
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  26.  @TheBobVova  so ok is nato an enemie of Georgia .was world trade organisation also an enemie of russia .just because they dont let you in doesn't mean you are their enemie .are nato troops on russian soil ?
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  27.  @TheBobVova  they bombed Yugoslavia ,not russia .there is a difference
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  28.  @TheBobVova  did you have a military alliance ? If not it isnt an attack on you .
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  29.  @TheBobVova  on the international stage friendship with out treaties mean tidly squat .how is nato bombing another nation with which you have no military alliances with an attack on you .you might have a friendly relationship but with out making a military alliances that means pretty much nothing.would russia attacking lets say Finland be an attack on nato ? No it would be seen as illegal and condemned by nato but it wouldn't be an attack on nato
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  30.  @TheBobVova  did you have a treaty? if not friendship isnt a great argument to declare someone an enemie .
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  31.  @TheBobVova  sorry , declare wasn't the best word to it would more be call
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  32.  @TheBobVova  well it is call just means regard it as an enemie declare means treat it as an enemie and attack them
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  33.  @TheBobVova  so what if they were an actual enemie there wouldn't be human life left on earth
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  34.  @TheBobVova  you were rivals in the cold war
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  35.  @TheBobVova  calling and being isnt the same
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  36.  @user-sj6og7wi2q  ხო კი დებლისავით მოიქცა და რუსეთს გამოადგა . საერთოდ გაეროსთვის უნდა გვეთქვა და ომზე ეგრევე არ გადავსულიყავით
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  37.  @LancesArmorStriking  well I disagree . Abkhazian was an official language by georgian law at that time and is too this day and ossetian minorities do have the right learn ossetian as a mother tongue . The main reason imo was that durring the collapse of the ussr period georgians wanted to be independent mainly on the basis of its history (kingdom of georgia , Iberia , 1918 republic ) while ethnic ossetian and abkhazian groups had no attachment to the history so they never had any real insensitive to support an independent georgia so they wanted to stay a part of the USSR .
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  38.  @TheBobVova  so by your logic is the police your enemie
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  39.  @TheBobVova  well depends in the situation
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  40.  @TheBobVova  how is nato an enemie it may opposed to the Russian government but it doesn't engage in active warfare against russia
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  41.  @TheBobVova  being protected doesn't make you an enemie
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  42.  @TheBobVova  what about it ?
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  43.  @TheBobVova  also there wasn't a military alliance between serbia and russia
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  44.  @TheBobVova  what when did i say that?
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  45.  @TheBobVova  how is it an enemie ? When has nato attacked a nation which was militarily allied to russia ? Nato may not be a friend of russia ,but at most nato is a revival not an enemie .
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  46.  @TheBobVova  why not? What makes you so special?
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  47.  @TheBobVova  calling someone an enemie with out taking action doesn't make them an enemie
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  48.  @TheBobVova  we aren't a part of nato .
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  49.  @TheBobVova  but we aren't a part of it. We are just a partner .It doesn't make us an allie of nato .
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  50.  @TheBobVova  well that is more a matter of prospective
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  51.  @TheBobVova  how is it?
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  52.  @TheBobVova  Russia has said a lot of things
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  53.  @TheBobVova  what my statement or your statement?
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  54.  @TheBobVova  how is that true?
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  55.  @TheBobVova  thinking someone is an enemie and them being an enemie is different
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  56.  @TheBobVova  like what actions ?
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  57.  @TheBobVova  which wars?
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  58.  @TheBobVova  name one war you have head with a nato member
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  59.  @TheBobVova  so you aren't an enemie
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  60.  @TheBobVova  so what you called Georgians genocidial maniacs but the eu and the hrw didnt fund us guilty .nato isnt enemie it is adversely at most
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  61.  @TheBobVova  do it then launch the nukes see how that turns out
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  62.  São João do mundo  only thing Russia has tought georgia is how to get good air defence systems and anti tank missiles . The moment Russia no longer has the capability to wage offensive wars is the moment georgia doesn't back it up
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  63.  São João do mundo  maybe not now maybe not on the next 100 years but eventually it will
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  64.  São João do mundo  and look at all the empires that tried to trash georgia all of them collapsed what makes Russia different eventually its going to have bigger problems and leave abkhazia
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  65.  São João do mundo  well there at least a good 60 years in-between the empire changes when we are alone
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