Comments by "tblbaby" (@tblbaby) on "On Reza Aslan and Reforming Islam (Pt. 2) | Sarah Haider | SPIRITUALITY | Rubin Report" video.
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To understand this you have to go deep into what Progressivism actually is. Not what you see it is or the people in the movement think it is. The people in this movement are victims of a massive and incredibly complex con. The goal of the actual movement behind the movement is Oligarchic rule of the globe. George Soros the face of the deepest players in his moves. There are many, but he's out there and you can see his movements if you dig. Not in the media in any way easy to follow and a lot of smoke and bullshit around them, but see through that and you can follow.
Progressivism is a political movement with goals stemming from a global movement. Brought to the US by the Fabian Society, lead by George Bernard Shaw. There was huge power backing that movement which has grown to extreme power and wealth.
The tactics of the movement are stealthy change, incrementally done to sneak up on the population. GB Shaw's Fabian Window explains much. They are depicted as Wolves in Sheep's clothing. Moto's like "let you mouth deny what your hands are busy doing". Backed by the same world wide group that backed the Bolshevik Revolution. They won, murdered the Czar's family by torture after they'd already abdicated and when the Bolsheviks wanted a role as reward they were mass murdered, similar to the brown shirts in the night of the long knives.
The Progressive movement doesn't openly discuss goals. They can't or they'd disappear quickly.
They use collectivism as a type of bait. Actually bribe people using others money. They've written economic and other misleading information into courses to frame the minds coming into influence. There were courses on the virtues of the privately owned central bank, to get the charter back after they'd lost it for the 3rd time. Keynesian economics, written by a brilliant economist, who actually wrote the Laffer curve before Art Laffer, but after the man had come to the US from Cambridge and become a drug addict and pedophile.
What has every strong Socialist / Communist movement world wide resulted in?Oligarchic rule, or steps in that direction. Not power to the people, the people were impoverished and harsh conditions imposed to keep them in line. Taking of weapons and control of food and medical. Nazi's were such a movement also, though it's painted as "right wing" so the people's socialist movement couldn't be an example, but it is prime example of the bait used to gain power from the masses and the switch that occurs. Nazi's got money from the same circle of "bankers" that funded the Bolsheviks.
What it seems we see here is a union between those powerful people and wealthy groups in Islam. Muslims have been radicalized in the past century, having chilled a bit after a history of extreme conquest and massive cruelty in their area of the world, pushing that area to consume most of the continent and most of Europe. The only thing that stopped them was inner corruption. The same thing that brings most big nations down, like Rome, Greece, ect. but I digress.
The pre punch line here is that Progressivism promotes what is good for the furtherance of the cause, which is power and control. There is extreme hypocrisy, because issues are pretexts to the goals, and the goals are not something people can understand or the movement would die quickly.
As the Fabian Window demonstrates, they are heating up the world to shape it closer to their hearts desire. Using a bellows and the earth on a forge. They are using Muslims as the heat, aligning temporarily as was done with the Bolsheviks they murdered, the Brown shirts who were murdered ext.
The principals claimed by Progressives are anathema to what they are doing, or the other way around, but when you really understand them it's simple and things that don't make sense when you watch them talk and double talk, make perfect sense. You see a constant push to divide and weaken the people, like the black lives matter stuff. No increase in white on black violence, except huge media push. The huge problem is black on black violence as many pointed out because it's so fucking obvious, and were jumped all over. Media in concert concocted a universe of lies about Trayvon Martin including leading with a picture when he was 12 or 13. Lied about his problems, his size and athleticism, history of Burglary tools being found with loot he couldn't explain in school when they searched him for pot. His thuggish stuff on this twitter account. They lied about the circumstances. Lied about George Zimmerman. Went to the laughable lengths of calling him a "white" Mexican. Much as the set up a Universe for the thug Mike Brown who had just beaten a store owner in robbing his store and attacked a cop with witnesses who testified ... why? Division. It's an effective tool to weaken a society and cause problem which can be used to do what you could never do normally. Obama's previous chief of staff, current crime boss / mayor of Chicago, Dead Fish Emanuel; "Never let a good crisis go to waste, you can do things you';d never be able to do otherwise" or words to that effect.
That is lengthy, but only tip of the iceberg of what's been pulled with media complicit and actually acting as operatives and not really media. Propagandists is a better description.
Muslims are being described as poor down trodden in fear for their lives, as they come into countries vast majority military aged males with the idea they are superior, conquerors. The cult is glorified, compared to what it really is. It's history washed and cleaned up and it's actions ignored and or justified. People fall for that. What people around them say, what media and entertainment can instill as paradigms sticks. What they later see they will justify according to those paradigms. It's how people work. People who are great at manipulating people understand this well and use it to control mass perspective.
It's written in the book the Progressive Edward Bernays huge add man and nephew of Sigmund Freud wrote, Propaganda. A book requested from them by Hitler, along with Eugenics, and received. Praised by Goebbels highly. He said he never would have been able to do what he did to the Jews and others without it. He conditioned the population to it. Used show business to push it, kind of like you might notice going on in the US.
That is your answer to why the hypocrisy concerning Muslims. It makes perfect sense ... but you have to understand things that are buried and never taught in schools, or rarely pieces of it in some Universities. Not most Universities, and not much. Another tid bit for you. Billions has been poured into Universities in the US from Europe. Billions. Why would it be worth the expense and worth it to whom? Who can afford it? What did it buy? To me it's obvious, but I've stepped back and not bought the pitches in the media and other sources unless I checked things out closely.
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+Farha Cute It spreads by force, threat, death, murder of apostates. If it was the best thing going people wouldn't have to be so brutally coerced to join and stay. They wouldn't have to use heavy cult brainwashing tactics. They wouldn't have to go to lengths to murder all who disagree. The people's lives wouldn't be such oppressed shit. Pull your head out of the cult of extreme morons. The worst plague on mankind existing today. Well, maybe second worst, used by the worst. It's a center of pedophilia, slavery, murder, rape, genocidal schemes and it must live by lies because the truth of it is the most ugly thing people can imagine. If you could pull your head out and embrace reason it's easy to see, but you're stuck in mental hell on earth that is Islam.
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richo61 Not saying your post wasn't intelligently written, but much of the blundering we attribute to governments are deliberate calculated moves to gain a desired situation. We would have a better understanding with the realization that people in powerful positions are seldom taking actions with our best interests in mind (unless it meshes with their own) but are playing for their own interest. Much of their interest will align with interests of others we never see, but who bribe leaders.
The insanity we think we see, the stupidity, is most often corruption. Corruption is the rule. Actual stupidity is extremely rare as to significant important moves. It's not just leaders we see making decisions, but powerful forces ( highly interested, invested people) behind the scenes who are anything but stupid.
Now, Obama is not the sharpest tool in the shed, very apparent when he goes off teleprompter, but he doesn't call the shots either. The kind of support he had? The money from illegal sources that wasn't questioned? His past that was hidden? You can smell the power behind the scenes if you pay attention. Not stupid, ruthless and corrupt. Unquestionably above the law.
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***** Evil Windmill Thanks for the information you guys.
Exactly why I gave a link to an easy to understand translation of Koran. Everyone interested should read it, and everyone should be interested.
You have to read the whole thing and study to understand, and Koran is used to con people, which is actually directed in the Koran. Different names for different methods and flavors of deception.
As with anyone or any group you have to watch the totality of actions and see through facades and deception by keeping your mind open.
People as defined by Koran, are not disbelievers. Those are Kaffir, and doing anything you want to them is fine. Torture, Rape, Murder, Theft, Enslavement ... and Islam is the largest legal slave trade today, as they've been through most of their history.
Muslims pride themselves on being masters of deception and stealthy tactics. They praise Allah as the master deceiver.
I don't hate Muslims, I see them as the worst affected victims of the cult, as a group, but it would be extreme idiocy to believe what they say. To buy how they present information. Understanding that they value deception so highly, and do not value truth, except among the cult members.
Their version of peace means everyone who doesn't believe is DEAD or maybe enslaved, but eventually dead ... but that peace doesn't happen with their control. After they pretty much swept their known world with little hold out, they destroyed themselves through infighting and corruption. They are a people dependent on quest, theft. They are at the foundation an extremely parasitic culture. Not to bright when they are also a genocidal culture. They self destruct when they've killed off the host.
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limerickcrime About an average proportion to the population of religious people have been the most brilliant people in their times. Religion isn't about intelligence, it's about paradigms. Intelligent people tend to better back their own paradigms. Seeing through paradigms is another characteristic all together.
Education is relative. Look at Education today? Less about Religion, but still indoctrinating people with ideology which has the same basic behavioral characteristics of religion.
I mean the very manner in which you speak of education is a tell of an indoctrinated paradigm on the subject. How you oppose it against Religion. Some of the best educations with the best outcomes have come in institutions that taught theistic religion along with other subjects.
In Universities as we speak, the social sciences, whatever they call the special study areas like woman's studies and all the other crap, even economics, don't just teach things were can't prove. They teach utter bullshit, cherry picked facts to an agenda ... indoctrination. Worse by far aberrations from logic (assuming group think like religion and indoctrinational politics is bad) than Theology.
Of course the highest regarded institutions have received as much as many billions each from donors, mostly from Europe. They don't invest that kind of cabbage, without expecting a return. Since, we've seen the University seen become bigoted against certain trains of thought, and just fucking insane in action. Not hard to come to a pretty good theory what has transpired in trade for billions.
The first shot at this was the Rhodes Scholarship. It's a good read when you study up on the purpose of this, and why Rhodes (founded of Debeers, mass murderous heavily racist evil bastard, they names Rhodesia after). Who came into Debeers after Rhodes died? Same group who own the US federal reserve bank and most central banks world wide. Also own Monsanto, Barclays, and many other corps. That is the only group I can conceive after much investigation could make such donations. The only ones who's agenda fits that kind of thing. AND there is a huge bulge of trillions over GDP in a few banks in the countries they mostly haunt.
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