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***** First off, the notion Republicans are racist is ridiculous. Equality which they favor, which they've always favored, is the anti racism. Objecting to the Programs which have caused black societal degradation to the point they've gone from even on murder states to committing 500% more. Objecting to programs which weaken character and steal from one group to bribe others? NOT RACISM.
And then, no, Dinesh's Claims are not false nor are they disingenuous. It's not what you've been taught. You've been LIED TO. These are documented facts. The whole notion of the switch is just another Prog deception, like the name Progressive, when they are Regressive looking to turn back marked improvements in national policy. Liberal also, a lie, it's what they do. You've been duped. Get mad, but get mad at the group who made a fool of you. Love Desusa who is informing you, because that is a great gift. Whether you know it or not.
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Bubble people strike once again! Ted Cruz, while being a brilliant scum bag, is a facade of a Conservative. He's also a very unprincipled person, very. He supported TPP, which contains massive amounts of dictated refugee influx to the US which is a Soros dictate. He lied about the refugee & immigration components and called Jeff Sessions a liar on the point. Cruz was confident in his lie because the TPP is very well hidden from the US people. Cruz got busted by Wikileaks in his bald face lie, and exposed him to any paying attention that he's no Conservative. He goes with the money in seeking power. Ted Cruz is also an "anointed King" in the fraud which is Dominion Theology, which is more Islam like than Christian in that is advocates "taking wealth from the wicked" & giving control of it to the Priests, done through the Kings, of which Ted accepted the anointing. Heidi Cruz also works with Soros in the CFR pushing the North American Union, which is extreme violation of the US Constitution. The Reason Senators hate Cruz isn't because he's principled. It's because he steps on people, lies about them for his own empowerment. It's why his college mates hated his guts and his room mate refers to him as a nightmare of a human being.
Ted Cruz only got the support he did because the media, including Fox, was doing anything to defeat Trump. The barrage of inaccuracies heaped on Trump were insane. The ignoring of Cruz problems, like his being on stage endorsed by a nut bar who just said God's law calls for killing gay people, shrieking like an insane banchie while preaching this vile shit. If not for being the last resort for Globalists, Cruz candidacy would have been very bland and not of note.
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Atheists tend to judge religion against perfect, and ignore the condition of man kind in general at the same period. Very unscientific. Christianity in particular has made modern civilization possible & resulted in the best societies on earth, where most would rather live (even while they bring their shit with them & want to tear it down so it's like the shit hole they left). You can point out problems of course, as you can in any group & belief system. That's people, they come with that and bring that to religion which attempts to smooth that out. Of course religion is used for abuses & getting people together to commit them, but so is the current religious dynamic of Science.
The Globalists are using a religious like approach to Science to push the idea of Anthropologically created Global Climate Change, which is a scam, so they can steal from the people in the abused name of "science" which has been remade as a sort of deity, that those people are lied to about. Anyone who actually understands the REAL Science behind the Gullible Warming scam, knows it's a scam. People who rant about it, use it as a religion, have no fucking idea about what's involved, except a couple of cherry picked phenomena & lies about the science.
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Garry G Trump has never been racist. Telling a fascist piece of crap who is racist to go back to Somolia if she doesn't like the USA? Nothing wrong with that, and that's not what he did. He said she should go fix her country of origin before she talked shit about the USA. Somolia is full of hate and racism, and so is she, and she brought that here. SHE IS THE RACIST. Every one of your "points" is lies.
Trump is good for all of the people. Trump has helped the disadvantaged ALL HIS LIFE. He helped black people because he saw there was a disadvantage. He helped out Mexicans to a lesser degree because they had a disadvantage in New York.
What is Trump's sin? Standing up to International organized criminals. That's what the Democrats are, that's who they bow to, Globalists, Soros is their face. Democrats are the same, KKK, Slavery, they've just changed the face a bit and tried to call Republicans out for what they are and always have been. Who divides people by race? DEMOCRATS, who's always had the worst conditions for minorities? Especially black people? Democrats. Who pushed black fathers from the home in the "New Society" which was created by Johnson, a KKK member who hated black people his whole life? DEMOCRATS.
If the argument is over, then shut up. You lost because you're so obviously wrong and your bullshit is based on lies, and at best cherry picked events mischaracterized and used to lie like everything the fucking (Malcolm X) "sneaky white liberal, biggest enemy the negro has" Democrats do.
Democrats are the liars. Democrats deliberately hurt people to use them politically. Democrats / Leftists are the armies of the Globalist enemies who work to destroy decent civilization where people are protected against government corruption, because government corruption sell's out to them, and that's Democrats in the USA, and leftists all over the world working with destructive Soros orgs.
Trump is good for ALL OF US, except he's not good for Globalists or the criminals who get wealthy (in government and by buying government) by ripping off we the people. Trump is a great president for all decent honest people, and color has nothing to do with it. When color is important, it's because YOU ARE A RACIST.
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***** See that's the propaganda, but it's bullshit to cover the Progs history of racism when they pulled the shift from vocal opposition to soft slavery via social programs.
Name a Democrat in office who switched to Republican over that time. I'll save you time, ZERO.
You've been propagandized in College. It's not at all even close to true.
The southern strategy proves nothing about a real shift. It was shitty jaded politics, the Democrats have one hell of a lot worse in their history. Hell, Obama and Hillary are worse by a long shot. So is the DNC, thank you Wikileaks.
To call what Republicans are, which is what they were ... for equality, racist? is idiotic or extremely dishonest. How are Republicans racist? Objecting to Social programs and hateful rhetoric that keeps black people feeling isolated? Breeds hatred? That's resulted in a 500% increase in black murders? Yeah, Democrats are really helping out, themselves. They get a dependent voting block and most black people where Democrats always wanted black people, DOWN.
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@barahng Beck doesn't do much Genuinely. He spends his radio time virtue signaling, speaking to the
idiots who like to hear "both sides" and not the sharp truth. It's about making him money. He lied about Trump,
teamed up with Romney then McMuffin the CIA Globalist shill. He tried to scare the Mormons into not voting
for Trump.
It's like he went from exposing Soros to working for him, and that could be. Globalists try to get dirt
on people who are doing them harm (usually by telling the truth which is ugly for them) and use it to their
advantage. Who knows what's in Beck's closet, he's a scumbag, people who looked into him do. That's
Globalists thing.
You can bet Beck wasn't going after Soros for the good of mankind, it was about money.
Same reason he went after Trump. Trump is like Reagan (who Romney's father lied about, attacking like crazy
he freaks out the Globalists and their pawns because they can't control him, and their crazy shit (from our
perspective, money making from theirs) is apparent when someone in power exposes it. Trump is exposing
it. right now. Trust me, they want him dead, like they needed JFK dead. For exposing their shit.
Trump is brilliant, but making good trade deals that Globalists fucked up? No brainer. Lowering taxes? No
brainer. Reducing the regulations killing the economy for everyone but the very wealthy Globalist connected
scumbags? NO BRAINER. Getting it done past so many being paid off by Globalists, took Trump's genius.
The improvements? Simple as hell. Everyone with a brain who studies the economy knows what works there.
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Dave, Trump is brilliant. 150-160 IQ and much real world experience. He's also very concerned with the country. He takes a long view. While most billionaires are bought and cowing to Soros & the Rothschild cartel that put trillions behind him, Trump sees the importance of the US to all the people, and the world. He's not a sell out and his life gives good example of who he is, but you've gotten your take from TV or you're spoofing ignorance. We have politicians, left is bought, right mostly bought. We have a chance with someone who's not bought and the political class, donors and office holders are freaking the fuck out. That should tell us something. He's fighting back against our enemies. Muslim immigration Sosos wants and which is devouring Europe is insane, except it's not. It's calculated and it's not about stupidity. It's about creating a beneficial situation for very wealthy and powerful people to take control. You're not stupid. I don't know what you're thinking, but your words are stupid. Maybe you're just missing something? I'm a very smart guy, and I'd be happy to explain Trump. He's our last shot. A man who's not bought willing to stand up for the people of this country. Trump is extremely valuable to us ... if he's for real. I think he is. I'm a very smart person and I see him as a good bet. Actually our only bet. You should fear Cruz. That guy is a real problem. Hillary is going to win and the bitch is a criminal from way back. Evil and wicked smart, and mean as fuck. She should also scare you. She's been bought by Muslims who like to toss gays off roofs, or worse, burn masses of them alive. She could give a fuck. That is who she is. Bernie isn't going to win.
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Cruz isn't religious, he uses it, and it's obvious when you watch him critically. His father took the path of a false evangelical to get money, and they of course embraced Dominion Theology, which isn't Christian at all, if Christianity follows the Bible. Cruz is a talented con man, but like many compulsive liars he exposes himself if you watch. Much like Hillary, he lies when he doesn't have to. When it's obviously a lie. He won't admit ever, just keeps lying. Text book compulsive liar, and I don't do the cheap psychological analysis because it's easy and stupid, but in Cruz case, as in Hillary (named after Sir Edmond Hillary who wasn't famous until she was 6, under fire in ... her daughter was jogging around the WTC on 911 ect ...) He can't help himself it seems. As Cruz room mate related, he is a nightmare of a human being, and about every Senator understands this as well.
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Nope, The progressive motive is so obviously not about protecting anyone. There is a consistency in Prog advocacy, and it is furthering the advancement of the underlying advocates of the Prog movement. Racism is a pretext. Sexism is a pretext. Environmentalism is a pretext. It about a revolution, and it's not for the average people. It's very consistent with what's been done in other nations in the world, and is right now, to advance the cause of Oligarchy for a few people. They do a shitty job of advocating their pretext subjects. It's not because they're stupid, it's because they are duplicitous. The Media can't be honest. Politicians can't do what's actually good for the people. We are mystified, but the fact is we're fooled. Almost all of us in one way or another.
Plug in what I've seen to situations, and see if they don't make perfect fucking sense when they never would otherwise. I've researched deeply. I've developed a vision built on more accurate paradigms. I know usually what are motives and where things originate.
Dave can't even be honest about Trump's position. Rizvi as well. Dave won't even make a clear assessment about what it is. The media lied about what Trump said about some bad Mexican elements coming over the border and doing bad things in the US ... which is absolutely fact. They lied about what Trump says about Muslims ... and even here, Ban ALL Muslims was never what he said. We get absolutely no where, on a foundation of misinformation.
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Herr Denker I love it when low info people condescend lol. I've probably read and researched more than anyone you know, by many multiples. I followed both wars, all the shit in between, and I've been there. I also researched deep on a wide range of subjects for decades. I don't have an agenda but what is good for the people of the world, and the other stuff on earth. I have no motive to lie. I don't want to take anyone's property, or freedom. I don't like when people do that. The best environment for people to live in is advantage enough for me in this world.
I'm not a huge Bush fan. He may have pulled some shit, but I haven't found evidence of it. Maybe he was complicit in 911 even, but I haven't found evidence of it. I know in detail what went down in Iraq. I know what went down in the UN, between Saddam and the UN and countries he bribed to back him and from documents found what plans were afoot. Maybe not everything, because I doubt everything was discovered.
Larry Elder is a very smart man, and he's shooting strait on this. He's not one to open his face and say what he doesn't understand.
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Serah Wint It does add value in perspective. Sweden has a great cultural work ethic from what I've seen. Things seem to have been changing some, so I'm not sure where that is at. The Swiss similar, industrious and pride in their industry and productivity and high quality standards.
I agree generally about education, but it's useful as far as it's useful to the productivity it's applied to. US Universities have gone to hell. Higher expense, a lot of loans and grants. The culture so weak and pandering to students more than training. Spoiling them, giving them a false sense of authority, sort of like Hitler Youth programs, lol.
Sweden isn't a top economy GDP to citizen wise, but culture again seems like it doesn't embrace waste or much corruption. There seems to be great use of value.
The US people in general, are spoiled, wasteful and corruption is pretty much the rule. Our Socialized Health care started with massive political fraud and corruption pandering to the wealthiest corporations.
What works for Sweden probably won't work for the US very well. Our government has the Midas touch, but the touch turns things to shit, not Gold. They corrupt what they become involved in. Since the creation of the department of education the price has skyrocketed, and the quality has plummeted.
Bernie Sanders looks like a disaster to me. Obama sure has been. We need free market and we need our government out of it as much as possible. We do need to police corruption in business, but with an even hand on general laws. We gave our government discretion and the power to chose who wins and loses. They turn right around and sell it to whoever can afford it, leaving the average person screwed over. Small businesses deliberately regulated to the point they can't afford to stay in business. The large corps could pay more.The way this economy is going is very untypical of the US. Usually small business drives an economic recovery with around 70% of the growth. Now it's around 30% and it's obvious why. They've been stepped on, deliberately.
The New Health Care system is a total mess, not what was promised. Much more expensive, and the big corps are making huge profits while the people are screwed. I won't even mess with it. I do my own medical and if I die then it's my thing. I'm not playing with Obamacare even though our IRS has been expanded a great deal and now has SWAT teams of it's own to enforce. The agents hide from the people, worried we will be angry. It seems they are about to do things that will predictably anger the population. It's bizarre to see, but seems like most people don't really look and see the changes. I think they will soon. Even with media covering this up, shilling for corrupt government. Not media, provda is more accurate.
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I've got over a ton of wheat in my basement, but I'm getting forced from my house because of greed and prices. I'll leave about the time the market will probably crash. Anyone want to buy stored wheat in buckets, oxygen removed? Good for ... indefinite, though the official is 30 years. Concentrate on DRIED FOODS, Curing meat, and freezing IF you have a small solar power setup enough to sustain a freezer. I have a huge freezer, with 3 year old peppers and tomatoes in bags which are still excellent, better than canned. Food dried weighs around 1/3 or less than original. It shrinks. All you need is water. Better think about storing long term water if you have a house. Bet the power grid will be attacked, and if it all goes down 80% die off of the population is predicted within 2 years. Learn what weeds to eat, seriously, they're usually better nutritionally than veggies from the store. Cultivate community of friends and protect each other. Yeah, it may well come to that. Look to Venezuela and other countries taken down by the same scum working on the US and other countries right now. It's a great lesson in how to survive ... THIS.
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@Vezmus1337 There are many intelligent YouTube comments. You can recognize them through use
of facts to demonstrate a point, not sweeping declarations which are not backed up, as illustrated by
your own comment, here.
What I liked about Beck is he brought out history, using numerous historians to put together history using
documented information that's pretty obscure & little known, but still documented. I gave several
examples in intelligent comments.
I liked Beck's documentation of George Soros connection to the Progressive Movement. It's factual
information that shines a light on players in the Progressive Movement, and what they're up to.
I didn't like it when Beck was going along with lies about Trump, because they were lies. Beck knows
Progressives lie to paint Republicans, about all of them in positions of power, as racist, and stupid.
Beck went right along with this, embellishing, and pushing hate of Trump based on these lies. He also
used hyperbolic displays of fear mongering toward's Mormons in Utah to scare them about voting for
Trump. I wouldn't have accepted that had he done that about anyone. It was ridiculous, self degrading
and infantile. Also insulting of those he was trying to persuade.
Is Trump racist? No, he's not. Things he's said which are true are misrepresented, as racism. Rapists
coming over the border for one. Well, over 80% of South American women coming over the border
report being raped. It's a fact. Huffington Post did a piece on it. Is Trump fascist? The man who's for
less government control over the economy fascist? How stupid is that? For the 2nd Amendment?
Every fascist leader has been for gun control, heavy regulation, and government being controlled by
big money in industry. Government owning industry, industry owning government. That's exactly what
Trump is against, which Obama was pushing.
That's where I liked Beck's contributions at times, because they were very educational, based on facts.
Yet other times Beck pushed ridiculous hate based on lies. He still snakes around on the subject of
Trump's actions. As in Trump being protectionist, and so bad for the economy. Beck ignores the fact
that other countries have tariffs against the USA, while we just them free access. Like the EU, China,
Canada, Mexico, and many others. Trump uses tit for tat tariffs to do what? To influence those
countries to drop their unfair trade practices. To encourage more what? FREE TRADE. Beck is a smart
boy, he knows this or he would if he cared to investigate just a little, but I think he knows it. I've seen
His speaking on related subjects well enough to know he's not just an idiot, he's a deliberately obtuse
messenger when it serves his agenda. He's a snake.
So see, this is an example of an intelligent comment on YouTube. Using facts. While your sweeping
self serving comment made wide unbacked assertions, which are not based on facts.
I like the truth, where ever it falls. When Beck brings truths out, I like it. When he's hedging dishonestly?
I don't like it. My comments reflect this, using information to back up what I'm saying.
What you should do to be better informed, is read Soros Wikileaked emails. Those are HIS EMAILS.
Does Beck dare at this point to use those? No, no he doesn't. Why? Probably because Soros allies
go after people who expose the unflattering facts about Soros, & his past, of which there are MANY.
Beck is a coward. He's self serving. He doesn't care about the truth, unless it helps him. He's not
stupid, but like most narcissists underestimates his audience, well at least in parts. To discerning
well educated people like me with a background in facts on the subject he's addressing, he's exposed.
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@Vezmus1337 Propaganda is a scientific brain hack used to exploit weakness in human process
of cognition. Paradigms are implanted, usually false paradigms, using information venues, such
as big wide spread Media, Entertainment, and Academia. Group think is set up using repetition to
masses, and the human method of cognitive short cuts tend to see the mass accepted (or seemingly
so) version of facts, as actual facts. Once False Paradigms are created, that is the view people use
as their accepted reality. It's very hard to get facts to the contrary of those false paradigms through.
From your statement above, it's clear that this dynamic is taking place in your mind. Facts to counter
your paradigms create frustration, because you "know" your version is "truth" and conceiving that it's
not creates mental confliction, but paradigms usually win out over fact to the contrary.
This science of hacking human cognition was studied and boiled down to methods by Sigmund Freud's
Nephew. A Progressive. Also a vile ad man who created false paradigms in audiences to sell ideas &
products, like tobacco to women by convincing them smoking was a demonstration of independence.
Progressives and Hitler are linked through Progressive movement creators, and Hitler's backers
Globalists. Progressives loved Hitler, admired his progress on their own agendas, so when he requested
their book "Propaganda" they gave it to him. Goebbels gave glowing reviews. Without the methods in
"Propaganda" it would never have been possible to get the German people to allow what was done to
Jews, and others who disagreed with the Nazi's movement.
Beware. What's been used on you is exactly the techniques used on the German people. A sort of hate
indoctrination. Very powerful. Understand how big Media / Entertainment / Academia support has run
in the past. They loved Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Mao, Castro/Che all mass murderers. They supported
Chavez, who took a country, Venezuela, with massive potential, and destroyed it for the common people.
This always goes with the big money pushing world events, Globalists. Globalists profit through war, and
gain power though upheaval, and average people being desperate and vulnerable, as was the case in
Germany and other countries they've destroyed. Read up on Soros & Zbigenue Brazinsky (spelling) in
the Balkans. Probably not in most of the shit you read, but factual accounts of how things went, from
the people involved.
It takes effort. It's not easy, but you can get by big information, which is almost always under control of
Globalists, and lies to you constantly. Information control is vital to them. The truth is potent. They can't
allow certain truths to be well known.
I know I sound like a crackpot to you, because of how you've been trained to see people who present
such facts, but if you care about truths, which absolutely affect you, look past the large dissemenators
of information. Even look into their connection with large secretive societies which bring wealth and
influence together in meetings world wide. Soros seems to always be involved in those orgs.
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Garry G If Hannity is racist, then you're a wookie. The riots were about lies, not racism, and it was about power, it was Soros scumbags the same as Nazi Brown Shirts, and the KKK. Democrat Globalist bullshit. It happens for every presidential election and usually on total lies, and with Floyd mostly lies. Giving in to those assholes gets you what they got in Venezuela, SAME PEOPLE, in Yugoslavia, SAME PEOPLE, in Egypt SAME PEOPLE, in Syria SAME PEOPLE. You give in to or buy Globalist pieces of shit like BLM and AntiFa's bullshit? Your country is gone, and your life is FUCKED. That's what happens if you don't fight back against these mobs and this bullshit propaganda used to destroy fool's minds and use them to destroy countries. BLM is a Soros org, Communist/Marxist. They do not give a damn about black people. USA is not racist, it's the best country in the world to be a minority. The best place to live because of our Constitution, but Soros orgs are fighting to destroy that.
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HA! Yeah, Ben Shapiro's new site. Funded by Cruz donors. He changed his tune, was sick enough to back Michelle Fields the Cry Bully in an obvious fraud trying to put a good man in jail to get to Trump. Crowder is full of shit on Trump too. Crowder likes Cruz because identity politics based on Cruz is a Christian, but he's not, he's just a fake asshole. Cruz the fake Christian Dominionist Freak which is more like Islam than Christianity who hangs out with "Kill the gays" Swanson and another who says Hitler was sent by God to thwart Jews, it's amazing it's not out there. It's not because the establishment has been all over Trump and gave Jeb, Walker, Rubio, now Cruz to help them knock off Trump. Beck is paid by Cruz, he pays Loesch, Red State is funded by Cruz donors and Ewwww Ericson has been a lying piece of shit idiot for years anyway. Levin had millions of $ of books bought by Cruz backers and he changed his tune.
Crowder follows what his Christian Leaders say is the thing, and then tries to justify it and it's an area where he is just dishonest. Progs have their own Religious dynamic which gets even more ridiculous.
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+jessicah exhibits The BLM movement was created on foundation of lies. I mean there have always been bad cops, and I hate em, like I hate any figure of authority who abuses the public trust.
The politically pushed division is extremely damaging to people. It gives politicians power, but it takes from the people.
There hasn't been an increase in police corruption, there has been a focus to create a thing, which perfectly corresponded with an election where black people had become disillusioned with Obama.
The Travon thing was media lies from the start and it partnered with the Feds to push a prosecution that was totally baseless. Michael Brown much the same. They start out pushing lies and pissing people off, come to find out they lies and moved public opinion using dishonestly.
The radical elements are wanted by factions in the government and elements which are behind the government. George Soros, who was also deep into the Occupy Wall Street movement which was ill targeting and a big mess as well as a huge element of corruption, from the start.
CNN was right there going along with the lies. Not putting out real statistics, running on sensationalism. Showing a picture of 12 year old Travon, omitting facts like he was busted with burglary tools. He was looking in windows off the side walk in a neighborhood which had been experiencing a rash of burglaries which corresponded with his arrival. A guy Zimmerman could never have run down, and witnesses backed up Zimmerman's testimony.
The big enemy in a very real way to black people isn't the police. (Of course there are some bad ones, even racists who absolutely are. The big damage is actually coming from the government and the media pushing division and hate. I really hate that. To help the inner city black groups that shit has to stop. That is the problem that can is important, if it can be fixed it will turn things around.
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+Islet of Langerhans The Dog whistle thing is BULLSHIT, just a method of painting something which was said, as something that was not said. The FBI said we can't vet these people coming in. Obama has obstructed the ability of our agencies to vet Muslims specifically. The San Bernardino couple slipped through because of questions they couldn't be asked. Because social media OF MUSLIMS SPECIFICALLY couldn't be checked at all. There was an investigation going on into the Mosque they and others, like the guy who bought their guns, have been radicalized in, but the Obama administration killed the investigation and forbid them to share valuable information they'd gathered which showed a likely threat from that Mosque and others.
Trump has learned this, so have I and many others because officials have disclosed this. Also the agent who was told to shut up about the info on the radical Mosques blew the whistle and was hammered for it. He knew he would be, but he thought it was important. Guess fucking what? IT WAS IMPORTANT, PEOPLE FUCKING DIED!
In light of this, do you think a halt on immigration into a group the Obama Administration has been specifically covering for and allowed dangerous people in, is a crazy thing? I don't think it is. I don't think it could be reasonably considered so ... do you? Honestly? HONESTLY? O_O
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+rodney billings
To understand this you have to go deep into what Progressivism actually is. Not what you see it is or the people in the movement think it is. The people in this movement are victims of a massive and incredibly complex con. The goal of the actual movement behind the movement is Oligarchic rule of the globe. George Soros the face of the deepest players in his moves. There are many, but he's out there and you can see his movements if you dig. Not in the media in any way easy to follow and a lot of smoke and bullshit around them, but see through that and you can follow.
Progressivism is a political movement with goals stemming from a global movement. Brought to the US by the Fabian Society, lead by George Bernard Shaw. There was huge power backing that movement which has grown to extreme power and wealth.
The tactics of the movement are stealthy change, incrementally done to sneak up on the population. GB Shaw's Fabian Window explains much. They are depicted as Wolves in Sheep's clothing. Moto's like "let you mouth deny what your hands are busy doing". Backed by the same world wide group that backed the Bolshevik Revolution. They won, murdered the Czar's family by torture after they'd already abdicated and when the Bolsheviks wanted a role as reward they were mass murdered, similar to the brown shirts in the night of the long knives.
The Progressive movement doesn't openly discuss goals. They can't or they'd disappear quickly.
They use collectivism as a type of bait. Actually bribe people using others money. They've written economic and other misleading information into courses to frame the minds coming into influence. There were courses on the virtues of the privately owned central bank, to get the charter back after they'd lost it for the 3rd time. Keynesian economics, written by a brilliant economist, who actually wrote the Laffer curve before Art Laffer, but after the man had come to the US from Cambridge and become a drug addict and pedophile.
What has every strong Socialist / Communist movement world wide resulted in?Oligarchic rule, or steps in that direction. Not power to the people, the people were impoverished and harsh conditions imposed to keep them in line. Taking of weapons and control of food and medical. Nazi's were such a movement also, though it's painted as "right wing" so the people's socialist movement couldn't be an example, but it is prime example of the bait used to gain power from the masses and the switch that occurs. Nazi's got money from the same circle of "bankers" that funded the Bolsheviks.
What it seems we see here is a union between those powerful people and wealthy groups in Islam. Muslims have been radicalized in the past century, having chilled a bit after a history of extreme conquest and massive cruelty in their area of the world, pushing that area to consume most of the continent and most of Europe. The only thing that stopped them was inner corruption. The same thing that brings most big nations down, like Rome, Greece, ect. but I digress.
The pre punch line here is that Progressivism promotes what is good for the furtherance of the cause, which is power and control. There is extreme hypocrisy, because issues are pretexts to the goals, and the goals are not something people can understand or the movement would die quickly.
As the Fabian Window demonstrates, they are heating up the world to shape it closer to their hearts desire. Using a bellows and the earth on a forge. They are using Muslims as the heat, aligning temporarily as was done with the Bolsheviks they murdered, the Brown shirts who were murdered ext.
The principals claimed by Progressives are anathema to what they are doing, or the other way around, but when you really understand them it's simple and things that don't make sense when you watch them talk and double talk, make perfect sense. You see a constant push to divide and weaken the people, like the black lives matter stuff. No increase in white on black violence, except huge media push. The huge problem is black on black violence as many pointed out because it's so fucking obvious, and were jumped all over. Media in concert concocted a universe of lies about Trayvon Martin including leading with a picture when he was 12 or 13. Lied about his problems, his size and athleticism, history of Burglary tools being found with loot he couldn't explain in school when they searched him for pot. His thuggish stuff on this twitter account. They lied about the circumstances. Lied about George Zimmerman. Went to the laughable lengths of calling him a "white" Mexican. Much as the set up a Universe for the thug Mike Brown who had just beaten a store owner in robbing his store and attacked a cop with witnesses who testified ... why? Division. It's an effective tool to weaken a society and cause problem which can be used to do what you could never do normally. Obama's previous chief of staff, current crime boss / mayor of Chicago, Dead Fish Emanuel; "Never let a good crisis go to waste, you can do things you';d never be able to do otherwise" or words to that effect.
That is lengthy, but only tip of the iceberg of what's been pulled with media complicit and actually acting as operatives and not really media. Propagandists is a better description.
Muslims are being described as poor down trodden in fear for their lives, as they come into countries vast majority military aged males with the idea they are superior, conquerors. The cult is glorified, compared to what it really is. It's history washed and cleaned up and it's actions ignored and or justified. People fall for that. What people around them say, what media and entertainment can instill as paradigms sticks. What they later see they will justify according to those paradigms. It's how people work. People who are great at manipulating people understand this well and use it to control mass perspective.
It's written in the book the Progressive Edward Bernays huge add man and nephew of Sigmund Freud wrote, Propaganda. A book requested from them by Hitler, along with Eugenics, and received. Praised by Goebbels highly. He said he never would have been able to do what he did to the Jews and others without it. He conditioned the population to it. Used show business to push it, kind of like you might notice going on in the US.
That is your answer to why the hypocrisy concerning Muslims. It makes perfect sense ... but you have to understand things that are buried and never taught in schools, or rarely pieces of it in some Universities. Not most Universities, and not much. Another tid bit for you. Billions has been poured into Universities in the US from Europe. Billions. Why would it be worth the expense and worth it to whom? Who can afford it? What did it buy? To me it's obvious, but I've stepped back and not bought the pitches in the media and other sources unless I checked things out closely.
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But he does. TPP is mostly Fascism without the religious component. It's corporations which basically run world governments by buying leaders and elections. The big winner? of course is the mega group of corporations like Monsanto, DeBeers, Lehman Bros, World Bank, IMF, most Central Banks around the world, and so much more ... Soros backers / order givers, the Rothschild Cartel. Why do you think we can't see the TPP agreement? It's been exposed on Wikileaks. It's a treaty to undermine US sovereignty and give huge wealthy corps advantage over governments and eliminates people's say through representatives. It's damned close to the EU nightmare the UK just voted out of despite all the media lies and brainwashing supporting it, because they are OWNED BY THOSE CORPORATIONS. Global control has been a big goal of the Rothschild Cartel since the 1700s, not kidding. They pulled together a huge meeting of world leaders in the 1800s to create a one world government, Russia blocked it ... and they've been working on it ever since. THAT is Globalism. One entity which binds many others and has powerful pull in most governments and wants to rule the world, and relegate the common people to the roll of basic live stock. That is who Obama, Hillary, Merkel and most other leaders in the EU work for, and it seems like the dip shit in Canada as well. They provide an avenue to huge power for Carlos Slim, who owns NY Times and NBC, as well as the other 4 large media / entertainment owners including Time Warner with their CNN & Disney? I think, who is a huge Clinton contributor. Most people if made to understand what's going on with all this, their heads would pop like a zit. That's Globalism, we don't know, because that interest owns almost all media / entertainment. Who really opposes them with open eyes ... lil ol Donald Trump is who.
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No Dave, you're approaching it as religion and accepting the word of "experts" with undue pressure applied by very wealthy people who stand to make bank by ripping off the people of the world. You're being extremely intellectually lazy.
Now, that being said, climate change is real. It was before mankind, and before mankind was involved in heavy industry.
Oh, here you go with the motive stuff which is relevant. Oh, there you go. The hockey stick theory was a scam Dave, they were busted sending emails about it, why do you ignore that? The scammers profited in millions from interested governments, which is actually just a conduit for wealthy interests who stand to profit huge from the scam. The models that were made have never worked out. It was ice age before it was warming. Same scum bag pushing both as dooms day scenarios, our Science Czar, Holdren. You can google his writings on the subject in the 70s.
What we have to do in this age of universal scammery is apply brains to the deal. The "Science" that backs up the Global Warming scam is not widely public, it's like the Catholics writing the bible in Latin and not letting the average Joe learn Latin, it was so they could pull shit. IT ALWAYS IS.
I'm telling you it doesn't take much to see the "Science" is nothing more than cherry picked effects while there is much to reverse those effects.
We do change the environment to some degree, so does a butterfly flying through it. You do change the wind speed in a hurricane by farting this or that direction and the temperature, butt is it significant? NO, NO IT IS NOT. We are a tiny part of a massive system, we are part of it. Our contribution to CO2 is minuscule and CO2 at much higher levels is actually great for the environment if you like life on earth, plants and stuff because plants use that and put out oxygen while that process, respiration, cools the earth massively and the more flora there is because or raised CO2 the more cooling effect there is. This is completely ignored, because the deal is they started all this to find a way to exert control over human activity and CO2 is perfect, so the reverse engineered to the desired result. That is not Scientific, it's using data to deceive, it's just another half truth by people who use that to get what they want by fooling, scaring, scamming, the people.
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Havel the Rock I just saw an interview with Gary O_O the dude is clueless and moonbatty. He's against removing illegals, he's bug eyed and nut bar when they were even refereed to as illegals. We can't vet the Middle Eastern Hoards. Our economy is NOT good, the work force is way down and we're on a sugar high on artificially low gas prices. That's all the good we're having.
Trump is pro immigration, legally in the US best interests.
Trump was against the Iraq war before it started. You can go back and find what he said. Trump supported the war AFTER we were already there, which is used to say he was for it, he wasn't.
Gary is for the TPP which is a fascist treaty that includes mass immigration and loss of our sovereignty to large business entities, mostly Rothschild Cartel satellites and those they control. Monsanto, Leman Bro's, Barclays, and a lot of concerns, they also own DeBeers. It takes choices out of people's hands and they're not allowing the public to see it, except wikileaks leaked it, busting lyin Ted Cruz in the process of lying about it and calling Jeff Sessions a liar.
Gary is also for a basic subsistence for everyone for not working. THAT IS SOCIALISM.
His running mate is an anti assault weapons idiot.
I'm sorry, I wouldn't hire Gary Johnson to run a Grocery Store. He's a hot mess.
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If there was real news the damage Trudeau is doing would be more apparent. Germany & Sweden, France, Belgium, Norway, Netherlands are not doing well, but we don't hear about that from MSM, just the highlights. Trump is the opposite of unintelligent, he is underestimated, but that's by design. People with highly operable brains watch the chess game he plays to have media get his information & issues attention, and have to smile, except the evil fucks on the other side.
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+HJ GE Larry didn't deny there is racism. He's black, he knows from experience. He's surely not pro racism. He wants black people to do well, as well as everyone else. That requires accurately assessing the real problems, which he acknowledges and identifies. You won't see him on Network shows, ever, or CNN. They have a bias for a narrative. A narrative which is a huge part of the real SYSTEMIC problem.
If you note how Larry Approached Dave's assertion of racism in the US, he asked him for instances. Dave couldn't really name instances of systemic racism. Larry also went on to describe the base of the problem and the moment of it's implementation by government, and the implications. I think if you spoke to him about it face to face it would be hard to prove what you believe, because it doesn't really seem to be based on fact, but a consensus of what fact is, which isn't correct. Our paradigms are powerful, and often lead us off from what is really true.
If one can't pick out a point made and demonstrate how it's not correct, that's when we need to examine our own basis for our own opinions because they could be off. Founded on unsound foundation. We human type beings are very susceptible to this because of how our minds, brains, function to give us a version of reality that's decomplicated enough for us to process in a usable way.
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Tulsi is bullshitting her way into justifying the Prog/Globalist agenda. Cheapening life. She makes a slick case, but it's not consistent in her universe. Clinton doesn't want abortion to be rare, she wan't it to be birth control. I've been pro choice my whole life, because I don't want government involved in it, but I also don't want government to be deeply involved in our lives either. If a baby could live outside the womb? Killing it is murder, even if it needs medical attention, because what baby doesn't require help? THEY ALL DO. I used to love Tulsi's positions, but she's so slick and full of shit ... there is no way in hell I'd ever trust her. I love Trump because he's so damned honest, even if I don't see eye to eye with everything he wants. Media attacking him to say he's dishonest? using lame garbage and lies, including lying fake fact checkers? It's to cover their own ass, and Democrat politicians. If we actually had media, and lies were not promoted and actual honest news wasn't attacked all around the scumbag establishment until it's defacto illegal, as in you get punished for expressing truth? The Democrats would have been toast, long ago. Same with the other similar "leftist" Globalist tools world wide, who are promoting the same lies and perversions of reality.
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Sarah Miller NOW Felonies. Martha Steward gave one statement deemed misleading by the FBI. She was convicted of a felony and went to prison. Hillary, now this is just one felony (with 39 counts, not 1) of the 16 felonies which are prima facie, which means public information contains proof beyond a reasonable doubt. Slam Dunk.
Now beyond that, 16 felonies, 10s of thousands of counts. This is just the little stuff too, as there is RICO, organized crime activity, as well as several individual acts of treason, but I'll just lay out the most obvious 5 felonies.
HILLARY CRIMES PRIMA FACIE
Hillary has broken the law concerning handling of classified information. Felony even if there is gross negligence, which there was, at least. This has landed many in jail who've done far less with no intent proven.
Hillary has destroyed evidence after receiving a subpoena. 33000 emails. She used bleach bit to erase it beyond recovery, which is more than enough to prove intent. Thousands of counts on that Obstruction of justice felony.
Hillary is proven to have lied to the FBI, a felony, which landed Martha Stewart in Jail.
Hillary lied to congress, it's proven, a felony.
Hillary has actually exposed through speech classified information on US secrets. It's proven, it's espionage. It's a felony.
There are five felonies committed by Hillary, thousands of counts, which are now public information. There are more.
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Sarah Miller Now, lets discuss why Hillary has not been charged, and it goes to organized crime RICO which carries life in prison. Plus confiscation of the 250 million or so she's grabbed by using public office, and there are Billions she's reportedly transferred to European Banks, probably UBS which she pressured not to turn over bank records. Vince Foster reportedly took many trips with cash to deposit in Europe back in the 90s.
JAMES COMEY SCAM INVETIGATION
James Comey made $6 million while Hillary was Secretary of State in a web of association with the Clinton Global initiative.
Comey appointed an investigator who resigned because they wouldn't allow him to use investigatory tools to actually get to the bottom of things. Comey appointed then an FBI agent who's wife had gotten $500,000 from McCulif or whatever, gov in Virginia who is tight with Clintons for decades for her political campaign. That's a total conflict which shouldn't happen.
Comey gave immunity to witnesses without getting testimony and destroyed laptops with evidence. Even gave Mills immunity as a person and then as a lawyer, when Mills wasn't acting in lawyer capacity for Hillary and hadn't practiced in years. Immunity from prosecution and immunity from testifying at all and allowed her laptop to be DESTROYED.
This is just not how real investigations go, it's how a coverup goes when the DOJ has your back because it's totally corrupt.
4 CHAN LEAK AND REPUBLICAN COLLUSION WITH THE CORRUPTION
An FBI agent went on 4 chan and said they were not busting Hillary because people from the white house (Obama is proven to have emailed Hillary by another name to her private server 20x or more and denied it, lied at a press conference) and they couldn't indict Hillary without a lot of spilled beans from Potus to many in Congress. We found out yesterday Ryan is involved and was promised a relative would be considered for the supreme court. AND nasty corrupt Narco Rubio came out against wikileaks, so obviously he's in there too. I think we'll see something soon :))
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Lucas Your statement has the wisdom of a KKK rant on black people & Jews, lol. I'm the highest common denominator bitch ;) and my understanding on the cause and effect in the world and US is pretty surely miles above an analysis you could give. It comes from study, and it's high quality because I've spent a long time working to figure it out and I'm a very smart individual. I have done a lot of analysis on Trump and it helps that since he's such a brilliant man, talented developer, amazing business man, and a very honorable guy I've followed him for a long time. Dave's analysis on this is either deliberately obtuse or stunted, and if he really does support Bernie it's stunted because the man in honoring his promises will destroy the means to pay for them. Dave is smart, but like many journalists extremely stunted in many areas of life's cause and effect.
In the Republican race, it's important to know who you're voting for. In most cases as in the Democratic race, it's not who you see. The money behind them that makes it possible to play is who you're really voting for. Trump doesn't have that and he's a very rare opportunity to step on that process. THAT is why those people are freaking the fuck out about Trump. He really cares about the country, the people in it, and he won't sell us out. That's been a massive corrupt gravy train for a very long time, and it's the same massive flow incoming to Democrats as it is now Republicans. Note Soros in the race backing anyone but Trump. Soros is the asshole you see behind the destructive EU, and pushing a similar NAU in the US. He's pushing the open borders mass immigration, and it's to destroy countries. He's destroyed a few previously. Soros isn't the main money, he doesn't have near enough. He's working with the Rothschild's and friends who have a group that's been pushing for world control, and they have all the money you could imagine, trillions. They are very close to knitting up the EU countries, and have thing in the US going their way and are close to vital measures that will make the will of the people mute, pretty much. They get their by bribing the leaders and working the people with social bribery.
This is what Trump is up against. Good chance he'll be killed. That is what Kennedy stood up against (read what he wrote before he died, it sounds crackpot, but JFK was an insider and he knew much, which is why he fought it. He had a good soul) and much of what Reagan stood up against.
Where are you in the realm of understanding on history and issues and how they intermesh? On the actual man we are talking about? Trump? You're an intellectual fucking gnat, and you call me lowest denominator? lol
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SailingSeignior Sarah Palin is extremely effective, she is a brilliant woman. She took down a corrupt Republican ol boys network starting without support, bashed in the media, but she went to the people and won. She became the most highly regarded Governor in the Country with over 70% approval by Democrats and over 90% by Republicans. You judge Sarah by her enemies propaganda, put out by Saturday Night Live and the Progressive media which did a total propaganda job. You're stupid, easily fooled, and your assessment isn't worth a fuck.
Adam had a work ethic, he has pure untainted analysis on how things work and what will work, and he's right. Proven empirically, and that's what he used to assess. What is already proven to work and proven cause vs effect.
Some people are lucky, some unlucky, but being intelligent and putting in a lot of work and not being intellectually lazy works.
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The problem with the media is the owners of the media, and the biggest problem in the media is the biggest media which is worse for Propaganda driven content than the average small outlet trying to get out some truth. The owners of MSM are wealthy, like Carlos Slim, Globalist, and see the new orgs as a means of gaining profit through indoctrinating the people and are totally in bed with Democrats-Progs-Globalists, which unfortunately have become one and the same. They are ridiculously wrong about most things and the Globalist media is much of the reason. Also College kids being indoctrinated and mentally fucked systematically in the same vein after people with the same purpose as MSM have taken over that source of information as well. David Horowitz is an expert on what's happened here, but the know it all prog indoctrinated children in these colleges hate him, because he tells the truth, and it's very counter to the indoctrination. Funny how the leftist pukes are expert on every slip someone like Trump or Sean Spicer makes and how it's a huge meaningful insight into how they are stupid and good for nothing, but ignore outright lies by the dozens in those they've been indoctrinated to listen to. Isn't it? I mean talk about ego, Universities have gone the Hitler Youth route indoctrinating the stupidest in our society, our children, into thinking they know best and adults are all stupid and can't be trusted. I think that's the perfect play out of this subject.
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Trump won the legal vote by a landslide. Illegal alien vote which Obama invited on TV netted well over 3 million. Then there was Trump votes thrown away. Military vote suppressed, again. Fraud as was discovered in the Detroit Recount, counting votes multiple times, we know Detroit wasn't the only metro to do this. Also before the election many toes full of prefilled votes for Hillary were discovered in Ohio in a warehouse, and these tricks are not isolated flashes of "inspiration" Democrats have been doing this for a very long time. Dead people are on the rolls, non citizens registered to vote. Ice has a large sampling of illegal aliens and have found many of them have voter registrations. Illegals are encouraged to vote. For Trump to beat the cheat, especially this time when they pulled out all the stops, he probably had a bigger margin than Reagan did. The voting system really needs to be fixed. Also media, Universities which have become brain washing centers of lower learning, even entertainment is a Goebbels style media, brain washing people under their radar.
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***** I'm sorry, but fuck you, you're ignorant. Read the Koran dumb ass, until you do, knowing how to read it, then shut up. In the mean time if you're too lazy Doc Warner has done some work that may help. Watch his vids and get up to date with some analysis. politicalislam.com AND don't listen to College profs, they are the biggest source of disinfo on this, unless it's media which is all owned by globalists now and going along with our government and Europe's in hiding facts and squashing fact finding, while erasing data on people intelligence needs to track problems.
Again, shut the fuck up. You and your ignorance are noise, false noise.
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Kokuryu Arashi Yes, you're right. Muslims are good people, many of them. So were Nazi's, they got caught up. Dangerous ideology, regular people, but many of them have been turned into monsters and it would be almost like a cure for rabies to pull them back because of the extreme conditioning from such an early age.
With Zealots caught up in a Paradigm that is supported by those around them, it's hard to change. Facts don't matter because the paradigm IS their facts. Facts conflicting bring on serious frustration and childish behavior, losing ones shit often. It's how people work. With Religious people, and with people who are caught in indoctrination, usually with the support of group think, on about any subject.
Full disclosure, people on the left usually consider me right wing. Though hard line right wingers consider me left wing. I'm not much of a joiner. I'm for what's good for people. I don't have ulterior motives, even greed. I'll go with what's best for all the people and that can feed my greed sufficiently. I don't need to steal of have unfair advantage. What I have in my mind is enough competitive edge for me if I work, and I don't mind working for what I want. I don't really want much materially. What I'd gain from wealth is protection from assholes, but alliances with good people can accomplish that. I like being armed, so I can protect others, and myself. I'd like it if everyone were armed and responsible for their own safety and that of those around them. It would be much better than a police force, which can be corrupt. Especially if they're the only armed people.
There ya go, lol.
OH, how do we deal with regressives? I think I addressed that above. Their mirror image is the fanatically religious. Same mental dynamic. I push them in argument. Put things in their face. It's very hard not to look stupid when pushing an unreasoned position. A little bit of humiliation is pretty useful as medicine, though usually you won't see it work. It takes time. I often argue with extremes of either "side"
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+Guy Souriandt lol. very definitive sounding, very stupid. Stop confusing rhetoric you're been brain washed with, with reality. Maybe you should research that. Global Warming is "settled science" they don't disclose how the "consensus" which is a lie, was arrived. The idiot boy king in Canada is imposing taxes based on junk science, it's a con. They are publishing phony scientific justification for the economics, but it's based on cherry picked info, which is picked to mislead.
You IDIOT, lol :)) ... picking someone who's done a job doesn't constitute crony capitalism. Are you retarded? The crony capitalism isn't the person in a job, it's that person allowed to be ripping off the country because they gave political contributions, or favors to entities. Trump imposed bans on working for foreign powers as lobbyist, and 5 years for a US company.
Crony Capitalism is Obama giving fake solar energy & wind programs to big donors & supporters & adjusting the rules so the people are ripped off with no recovery as we used to have when we guaranteed loans.
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Libya, Soros was heavily involved in Libya before the "revolution" was manufactured. Soros was heavily involved in toppling Mubarak and getting the Muslim Brotherhood in. Soros is heavily involved in moving Muslim "refugees" into countries in mass without vetting. "refugees" who it turns out don't see themselves as refugees, but that they were brought in to make the societies better. They've actually said Angela Merkle invited them in and some threatened to leave if they didn't get better food, as if they were doing the countries they invaded a favor. Countries all over the world have been influencing police to not report accurately and media to hide problems, about the same in every country. Something stinks there. This isn't something countries decided to do organically, it's been designs and countries subscribed to the plan, including cover ups. Obama influenced our intelligence agencies to not look into Muslims as would be wise, especially considering Obama policy directly affected or more accuracy cause the missing of the San Bernardino mass murder jihadis. The Obama administration not only told agencies to stop looking at data, he killed a surveillance of mosques, one of which was the mosque which radicalized the killer in San Bernardino and his accomplice and probably put him in touch with his wife, the other shooter who should have been caught.
Soros is huge in the open borders bullshit all over the world. Pushing the EU and they are pushing refugees and it's not consistent with other situations in the world. Now though, it's some kind of huge humanitarian emergency.
Things are smelling really rotten in Denmark, and the rest of the EU and US. Areas of heavy Soros influence. Of course Soros isn't in this alone. He doesn't have near the resources to pull of the many things similar he's done.
Things "just don't make sense!" umm, yeah, they do. If you take certain things which are taboo in the media and among politicos into account.
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+Anthony Serocco Really? What really results from Socialism? Poorer masses and a small group in power, Oligarchy. How would employees gain control of a store like walmart they didn't pay to build? Isn't that theft? Now if you had thieves in government which would be needed to make that work, what makes you think they'd give what they could take to a bunch of scrub workers? They'd do what Obama has done, sell out to the extremely wealthy, like Warren Buffet who contributed and gave PR and gained Billions over the death of the Keystone XL pipe line, while the idiot and or dishonest environmentalists celebrate using trains to transport the oil in stead of a pipe line which wouldn't pollute. Now, that's just one example, but the US is full of them. We've been sold out to the highest bidder and if you think it will ever be any different you're lying to yourself.
Simple, people are greedy, and those who are not will be pushed out of the way so the greedy can gain ... IF the government has discretionary power to sell. If they just have to enforce basic law they don't have that power to sell. THAT is why the Constitution worked so beautifully. I mean the US has never been perfect, but numbers don't lie. It's been about the best production based economy in world history. US people the most wealthy in the world, except maybe some places like Hong Kong, which was even more heavily capitalist based.
Socialism doesn't work as you seem to frame it, because production is what creates wealth, and means of production is expensive and or extremely hard work to create. People who won't gain their rewards won't produce.
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umm, I'm actually agnostic. You made another knee jerk illogical assumption. No, they're focusing on favorable rhetoric, which they adopted after the glaring hole in their childish attacks were noticed, which they still are to anyone who follows the logic through. Their rhetoric, which they defy while speaking of it. It's a sophist bullshit move, which isn't based in logic. I get what it's for, it's just dishonest. It's misleading. You can't be Agnostic & Atheist. The rework of the definitions just doesn't cut it. Even if it were totally accepted (which is the goal, it's a technique of propaganda which Progressives pretty much laid out in the book, Propaganda. Ironically, or more in character I should say, Progressive itself is the same kind of double speak bullshit to mislead about a movement which was to move back to oppressive rule by a few elite & remove the individual rights centric philosophy & Constitutional set up the US had created which was actually inspired by Christian principles) anyone with a decent brain would see the glaring illogic of it.
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Jack Journalists and Academics are afflicted with a lack of real world experience. There is much conceptual mental development in the application of cause / effect that makes the workings of the world much more evident. Frames or reference are achieved in the mind through practice. Without those frames paradigms don't have a good foundation. While seeming to make perfect sense to the academic, journalist or others who've got little world experience they are ridiculous to those who do have the experience built mental framework to understand realities. This is made clear in students who play an instrument. They develop points of reference other children don't and as a result process information more easily in school and do better. Playing an instrument is application of cause and effect to gain a result. Now, that's not equivalent to people involved in areas of cause and effect in the world economy or construction or other areas where success is heavily dependent on a deep understanding of cause and effect in those areas, but it (musical cause & effect in making an instrument make the desired sounds) is significant in it's stimulation of mental development.
Ironic that were have fresh, unseasoned, under developed embryos of human beings in positions to teach and inform and often govern others. That seems to be the ugly result of an elitist system where qualifications are based on arbitrary assessments of qualification rewarded by important & prized pieces of paper, rather than actual merit based assessment of qualification. Example, Harvard is the top University, based on what? Not testing, but alumni contributions. It's setting up a class system based on belonging to a class, not earning status in a real way.
I mean Harvard will allow some few into the club through hard work & merit, but they still don't have the connections like Bush & Obama who had powerful association, to gain real power based on who they are, not what they are.
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What we have here folks, is the religion of Global Warming. Just trust us O_O you're too stupid to understand all the information that goes into it. Much like the Catholic Church denying the average people the bible in a language they could read. Never mind that in 2014 the North Pole wasn't go as "prophesied" and Al Gore bout himself a home he said would soon be under water in California ... so did he believe himself? Doesn't seem like it.
Hockey stick graph was a busted hoax, emails discussing that outed, still talking about it? lol. The 97% is bullshit, the poll was altered and shifted to get to a desired result and it's not real. This is a classic con. He's tossing out all kinds of shit that sounds compelling along with some factual, but he leaves out other pertinent information. He's spending all his time selling, not talking about ALL of the data, it's cherry picked.
Global Warming is a fact ... because logical fallacy? That's all he's been talking. Nothing a person could draw a good conclusion from, just take our paid word for it.
Scientific method includes ALL of the data. He doesn't talk about levels of natural CO2 as opposed to human created CO2 which is a fraction of the variable in natural CO2 production. He doesn't talk about the cooling effect of CO2 in that it increases flora levels which creates a cooling respiratory effect in mass world wide which also reduces over all CO2 as it uses CO2 and kind of creates a natural balance.He wont discuss the fact It's driven by money with a distinct motive.
This guy is making a political speech. He's saying there is science, but he's not talking THE science, and they WILL NOT disclose the science involved. This is a scam, it's a con. It's all based on "authorities agree" who are under pressure and being paid to go along and damaged if they don't. Not based on complete science.
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bow man One Cenk's YouTube Channel and on How The World Works Channel when he was arguing there. It's been years. I may have gotten into it with him on twitter as well. Been known to do that with quite a number of people from Michelle Malcon and Steven Crowder, and Todd Starns who I really despise. the Anchor I call fish face from Georgia, Martha McCallom, Steve Doofy lol, some of the business guys and a few more on Fox. The black anchor woman on CNN during the aftermath of that Hurricane that nailed New York hard, other jokers, Van Jones when he was on CNN, the tall skinny black idiot Toure? something like that. Many more. I tend to come with facts about something they got wrong on their twitter feed and it gets a response often, probably because it's embarrassing. Mostly I'm hoping they'll correct something they've gotten materially wrong. Sean Hannity blocked me 3 times lol. Sean was talked out of it each time by an attractive woman who was arguing the same point and Sean was wrong. It's a weakness of his, pretty women. It's been some time though since I cut cable and usually it's around elections with the TV personalities. Cenk was a drug out debate a few times on YouTube. He wasn't ever really nasty, but the guy has the honor of a snake.
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+No Way I"m agnostic and no fan of Planned Parenthood. I don't like much of what they do and see it as vile. I don't like that they bribe politicians with contributions who vote to fund them. I don't like those politicians who think bringing in massive amounts of illegal aliens to change the voting of the country is ok, it's illegal, and it's morally reprehensible because it's not good for the US, or anyone in the long run. It's about power.
Putting Christians in an equal status with Muslims is either extremely ignorant, or just insane. Muslims live with a doctrine of genocide and world domination. Christians is quite opposite. I know often Christians act out of line with their instructions, but they are Christians AND people. People use institutions and whatever they can to manipulate other people, Christianity has been that for sure. Islam if followed is a horrible thing. Christians who lash out and kill are probably also dealing with mental problems. So are Muslims, but those mental problem are taught, brain washed, conditioned neurosis.
The thing about people is, there is no moral baseline unless it's taught. Nothing is too ridiculous if it's accepted by those around them ... Bones in the Nose, Sticks on the Dicks is a good demonstration.
Progressivism is faith based, on what people who see the leaders in Progressivism as part of their group. Who see the progressive media lines which can be extremely dishonest in material and omission as normal. It's tribal ... like religion it lives on the group think dynamic, mob mentality. That's just how people think, most of them. It's the dynamic the religious have with their leaders and information. Faith, because people mostly don't know except that they've heard it from a trusted authority figure.
Would the people in California have been murdered if progressivism wasn't pervasive? Apologizing for groups of criminals and zealots because their leaders were using them as a tool to grab power in the US? Probably not. Bringing people who hate you into your country is just stupid. Bringing in masses of people and giving them special treatment and basically immunity to our laws and money to live on is fucking stupid.
The Darkest side of progressivism, dependency. It's the most dangerous situation we face. Such a high murder rate, it makes terrorism so far look like a small problem. Sensational group murders are ugly and catch attention, but the huge mass murder in California is a bad weekend in Chicago.
Much or most of the black population were bribed into dependency in the 60s. I contend it was deliberate. Knowing Johnson was a conniving racist son of a bitch bolsters that well backed theory. If it wasn't, the results are one of the most stark contrasts in history that should be studied. 500% murder rate rise from par with the country statistically to now. That is HUGE, more so because the problem is concentrated and many black people are not in that concentration and don't have the same crime rate, so that waters down the dependency stats.
Progressivism in the US has such a dramatically higher death toll than religion since the 60s it's not even close. It's many multiples worse. Without the concentrations of dependency included in the equation, the US murder rate would be one of the very lowest in the world. Without just Chicago, DC, Detroit and New Orleans the US would be 4th from the bottom of the list. That is in ratio which is valid, not in totals which Progressives dishonestly use, which is not a valid statistical measure.
Would gun control help? Well, Muhammad and Muslims since the 600 somethings had no guns, and they've mass murdered around 200 times more people than the Nazi's and Russian communists combined. politicalislam.com. They didn't need no stinking guns. They massed and wiped out weaker groups. Hard to get away with that against smaller groups armed with fire arms. You'll take heavy casualties probably and make a hell of a racket doing it.
But ... guns are the devil in progressive media and entertainment as well as leaders blaming lack of gun control for about anything, that and climate warming or change or whatever twist they're doing with it today. Funny how the heaviest gun control areas is where the most murders are. I know this line of thought will be hated. Hating guns is a progressive holy cow. I however like a chance at self defense because police can't make it in time to save you or your loved ones, usually. An armed public is the most effective weapon against mass murder or invasion as in the case of 200,000 military aged male "refugees" they admit to not being able to vet ... in fact the Obama administration put up road blocks to checking them out. Much like the Clinton administration did using the Clinton Gorelick wall that kept info sharing from probably focusing in on the hijackers who were learning to take off and fly, but not to land. The FFA couldn't tell immigration or the FBI. Were those stupid moves by Progressives and religious dynamic? Just stupid? Or collusion? Sandy Berger's socks know, but after they had them he destroyed the documents, and basically got away with it scott free and never had to live up to his deal by taking a lie detector test.
There is a lot to go into, and I focused mainly on what seems to be your religion, Progressivism, because I'm talking to you :) Believe me I've had a lot to say to Christians and Muslims on the subject.
Will you think critically about what I've just taken efforts to lay out? Or will your group thinking dynamic dismiss it for you?
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***** I have a good idea what I sound like to you, lol, which is why I wrote what I did.
If "all terms are made up" is wrong, where did they come from? God? O_O
ahh, I see there was more. Yes, it's technically true, and it was when they "made them up" someone has to do it. Ideas and language is developing daily. If it's not, that means you're in a regressive shell, or stagnant, but stagnation really doesn't exist. It's progress or regress.
I've actually been using "regressive" for decades. It describes the "progressive" movement that seeks to take us from an improvement in national structure of law back to the old Oligarchical systems. The few with the big money and power in media & the ability to buy it in government dig that. Their propaganda says progressive, but in reality, it's regressive.
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Arka Dhak lol, pretty bigoted. You make sweeping bigoted statements. You have passion in you. Why not direct it in a real way? Your view of the US is maybe true in some cases, but it's not generally accurate. Saddam attacked Kuwait, many countries were involved in helping Kuwait. Saddam signed a treaty with conditions. Saddam broke those conditions and 13 more resolutions in a row. Saddam was bribing UN officials with oil money and starving most of his people, the ones who didn't support him. He was engaged in genocide of several groups in Iraq.
The US enforced the UN Treaty that most other countries would not. Also it came out that Saddam was colluding with France, Russia, and China. He had plans to sweep through the middle east and take control of massive amounts of oil, cutting other countries in.
The WMD was in Iraq. Much was shipped to Syria (according to the general in charge of Iraqi air forces) and they are finding it as it's used by some reports. The Intelligence report that there was no WMD? It wasn't normal to do that. They couldn't know. Intelligence practice isn't to give a definitive statement to something they can't prove. It was surely a political statement forced by political officials. That's not good intelligence work. After this declaration they found an entire fleet of Iraqi Jets they'd never found in their search. If those Jets were there and they'd never seen them, how could they be sure of WMD? They couldn't.
There is a lot more than you're getting information wise.
Not saying the US is perfect, especially these days. Obama is downing or attempting to down leaders in the Middle East who've kept peace by keeping the crazies from Running Amok. Like Assad, who he tried to topple, who was fighting the Rebels who ARE ISIS. He took down Mubarak who was keeping reasonable peace in Egypt, but he had to kick ass on the crazies to do it. Also Qaddafi in Libya who was doing pretty well for the Libyan people, but refusing whatever Soros was trying to get him to do.
But Iran? Those nut bars who kill their own people constantly for perceived offenses? Who won't allow a real election and so the people rose up ... did Obama lift a finger for their legitimate uprising? Hell No, and he's got something going with Iran. His history is linked to them, his closest adviser is Iranian, his mentor was her father and a seriously corrupt & seditious individual.
So no, I don't back the US in these things. Something really smells dead and rotting, about them.
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I can see your rational, and I had it when I voted for Perot, what a huge flipping mistake that was. I know you don't understand what a disaster Bill Clinton actually was, but he was, and the Clintons are.
I can't say I respect your rational because it's based on ignorance. You really should dig more. Media sources work for who? All globalists who are threatened by Trump because he'll stop their gravy train, and expose real crimes probably and at least if known massive hate from the people.
You sound like you judge Trump by media's input, which you have to understand is biased. Trump is a brilliant man, he listens well to input, but he does make decisions based on his understanding and that input. People who know the man say he's brilliant and extremely capable. He started with a million $ loan from dad and worked it into over 10 billion in value. Only brilliant people do that in construction / development which isn't like software or hedge funds. It's real & it will expose incompetence.
Here's the deal, the corruption is extremely deep, Republicans are deeply involved. Why would Republicans take part in the insanity of bringing in the world people in the world? Mostly their military aged men? Then isolating them so they don't assimilate, purposely?
One Reason Dave, massive corruption to the levels I don't think you can even imagine. It's not just the US, it's in EU countries as well. They are lying to cover Refugees. Not reporting crime like the US has done with illegal immigrants. Telling media not to report on incidents, or to mislead about Refugee involvement or motive.
Hillary helped purposefully destabilizing the Middle East. Soros was involved. He was there in Libya, he was in Egypt, those I know. He was busted telling Obama & Hillary what to do in Angola, he was almost surely involved in Syria where Obama & Hillary supported vile Rebels they knew had fatwa to rape, torture (as in burning to death, not waterboarding). The sin of Assad? same as Mubarak. Keeping the crazies from killing Christians, Jews, Buddhists.
What's been done by Obama and Hillary at the behest of Soros little doubt, is horrible. I won't get into what backs Soros, but they are extremely powerful in the world. Hillary and Obama created such atrocities and ignored others they unleashed. Christians, Jews, Buddhists and others are undergoing a holocaust that is very like what Jews went through at the hands of Hitler. Even Muslims are being horribly treated if they have a history of not being extreme as ISIS judges to be true Islam.
Johnson doesn't mean to win. I mean I like much of what he says, but he's not a competent guy. I like legal weed, but imagine the federal government having full authority over weed in taxation, probably be worse than it is now. Dispensaries go through a flippin nightmare. They should just leave people alone with their choices. Trump is for medical weed, and I think he really doesn't think weed is a big deal. How he hates heroin and meth though.
I want you to investigate Trump more deeply Dave, as I have. I mean I've investigated the Clintons more than Trump for decades because they are a huge malfunction. That they were allowed in politics on a national level is a huge eye opener, they are extremely bad people, mobsters.
I think Trump is the wake up call Dave. He's sure shook up Washington, and the Republicans don't have a problem with what he says, they have a problem with what he'll do. Call an end to the gravy train and hold traitors like Ryan accountable. Never Trump is deep into the corruption, and that's why they wouldn't stop illegal immigration or the insane "Refugee" bullshit or call Obama on destroying information on terrorist ties and destroying information gathered in investigation and quashing investigations into Muslims in particular. So many Republicans are in this up to their necks.
If Hillary were indicted the information that would be dug up and that she could give would bring down most of the federal government, that''s what a FBI whistle blower exposed on 4chan, the Anonymous outlet.
Soros emails also expose him big time and his dictation of policy to the Obama administration. Obama worked with Soros a long time, in Joyce, Acorn, probably a lot more. Soros is operative for more powerful and much more wealthy group, which has brought many billionaires together and they meet. They meet in Sun Valley Idaho once a year and more meetings. There is the builderburg group that met in Germany. They tell Zuckerberg what to do and he jumps, he jumps for Merkle on censorship.
Trump is the guy who can bring this down. He loves the country. He cares what happens to it. He's brilliant and he's at war with the corruption much as Kennedy came to be.
I implore you Dave. Really dig into this. Check out Trump closer, because he's not what you've been lead to believe he is. He identifies with the common man. His own employees will tell you. He's no fan of elites and hates corruption that would harm the people by harming the country. I know by what Trump says he knows what's going on here. I know through decades of intense study to try to make sense of what's been going on.
We need Trump now, there is no next chance once Hillary fucks up the Supreme court so that our protection from Federal Tyranny is erased. Our Constitution must be preserved. The world is a fucked up place today, extremely powerful and nasty forces working. Our banding together under the constitution is not only our only hope, it's probably the hope of the world, and so many people in EU countries know this very well, and hope desperately that Trump comes to the Presidency.
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Rayan Mao Your view parrots what's being taught, and it sounds reasonable unless you understand the facts in context with history. Also unless you really understand the Koran.
Koran is a mess, not chronological in arrangement. It was arranged largest to smallest verses in the book. BUT the Koran tells us that previous writings which are contradicted by later writings are no longer valid. The later writings are the most violent ones. To put Koran in context it's the writings involved in the life of Muhammad. The book jumps around because of it's arrangement longest to shortest. Give em a break, it was 600 something AD.
The last writtings call for genocide, lying to the enemy, which is EVERY non believer.
Most Muslims don't even understand this, but if they believe in the Koran as the perfect word of Allah, which they have to, to be Muslim, it's easy to show them. It's easy to show Allah calls for them to fight, to kill, to see others as Kaffir, not human. It's ok to rob, rape, kill, enslave and own non Muslims. Those who don't take part in Genocidal plots and the acts of genocide can be killed as non believers, and go to hell.
If you use populations at the times in history you refer to as control group, Christianity wasn't our of line in their behaviors. If you object to the behavior, you object to the behavior of man kind as a whole. They didn't stand out at the time against a test group of the entirety of mankind.
That has never been true of Islam, of Muslims. There is good reason for this beyond the conditions of the times, which flavors all people. It's that they are dictated to terror, conquest of the entire world and genocide of all non believers.
Check out this Scientist, PHD as he's studied the Koran and the history of Islam extensively and put the Koran in easy to understand context. I've got his Koran you can get on Amazon for $20. Well worth it or less for Kindle, if you really want to understand Islam.
He is not a hater. I've never been a hater. He does ferret out the truth in this so we can understand. http://www.politicalislam.com/
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+Farha Cute It spreads by force, threat, death, murder of apostates. If it was the best thing going people wouldn't have to be so brutally coerced to join and stay. They wouldn't have to use heavy cult brainwashing tactics. They wouldn't have to go to lengths to murder all who disagree. The people's lives wouldn't be such oppressed shit. Pull your head out of the cult of extreme morons. The worst plague on mankind existing today. Well, maybe second worst, used by the worst. It's a center of pedophilia, slavery, murder, rape, genocidal schemes and it must live by lies because the truth of it is the most ugly thing people can imagine. If you could pull your head out and embrace reason it's easy to see, but you're stuck in mental hell on earth that is Islam.
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Rashid Coleman I'm conflicted about the Kurds. They've been good people comparative to those around them, and they are targeted for genocide by many. I guess they believe in the Koran, but I'd like a chance to discuss it with some of them. I'd like to see a coalition of Kurds, Israelis, Christians, Buddhists and others that are being targeted. That's what the US and others would be developing if they gave a damn about the people there. Fighting the Muslims will also only help the Muslims. They need to be pushed back on. Letting the people think they have some kind of province which is protecting them isn't helpful in getting them to drop the crazy Islamic fundie shit. They need to be exposed to information, no safe place. Also apostates should be protected, and those who go after them dealt with harshly. Immigration shouldn't cater to their sense of Muslim superiority. They shouldn't be allowed to rob the population by being given a free life and education. That is damaging. I bust on Muslims when they mouth off, verbally. About their backwards violent outlook and unmerited superior view of muslims over all others. I point out how muslim areas are all shit unless they have oil someone else found and developed for them, and still the conditions for the average person are oppressive. For women and children, horrible.
I'm glad you're open to acknowledging the obvious about Israel. I'm not seriously worried about what they do because they've shown so much restraint it's amazing. If I was in charge there I'd move the borders back to the 7 day war areas and push all Muslims out of Israel and those who fought? I'd wipe the fighters out. Israel has got nothing but grief for their humanity. I'm a very humane individual and very concerned with what is fair and just, but they baffle my mind and I actually wish they'd be tougher because they do endanger themselves. I also wish they'd back up Lebanon and push the Muslims out of there who've abused the hospitality and are starting up with brutality and will be in cleansing mode before too long I'm afraid.
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What I don't like about bubble people as "authorities" Randy has the theory down, which is good academic territory, but he's a shitty judge of cause and effect because his reality is based on insulated bubble shit.
The realities of Hillary Clinton are much worse than we gather.
The realities of Trump are much better than we gather.
This is because institutions and airways are monopolized by entities who are very biased towards elite government power. They support the propaganda driven cognitive deception elite powerful people pay to create in the voting public. Bubble people are ill equipped to see past the prevalent narratives because their perceptions rely on being fed, not organic observation because they lack cognitive tools for that.
Trump has had a great effect already. We are talking about a rigged system widely because of Trump. The massive powers behind open borders lunacy (ugly as hell for the average people) which dominate media, Universities and bribable officials, are being challenged. The reality of illegal alien crime the government has been covering up is being understood more. The reality & UK history (which was suppressed) of refugees being an invasionary force of incompatible almost all military aged males is being understood more. The reality of Clinton's criminal history decades past and recently, are being more understood. Donald Trump has already done the US & the world a great service. Imagine what he will expose and flush out as President? I mean assuming all the false garbage on him is not reality, and it's not. The choice between Hillary and Trump is a no brainer, if you really understand them and what's been going on.
Gary Johnson is a mess, not a better choice by any means. I like his position on weed having the insane laws against it removed, but he's for some very stupid damaging shit, like a basic subsistence payment to every person in the country regardless of what they do, which would drag production down and destroy the economy, making such payments and the current help available for people who need it go up in smoke. He's for big government enforcement of SJW priorities, which is diametrically opposed to basic principals Libertarianism. I'm Libertarian, Fuck Gary Johnson, through he would be better than Hillary the mobster, who would sell anyone out at the drop of a bag of money. She actually told the women of Libya that they would enjoy Sharia law, holy shit!
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Serah Wint Very True, seems you've hit it right on. That's not how I have thought about it, but it's what I've noticed as I'm picking up on extreme corruption that's not naturally occurring, but taught, influenced. Pounded into our lives in schools, colleges, entertainment and politics. Even through churches. I'm agnostic, so I don't agree with churches on many things, any of them. They have tended to be the base of a lot of the positive cultural foundation, while also being a source of hypocrisy and mass stupification.
Colleges have been granted (bribed it seems) with billions, those regarded most influential in the billions. The evaluation system in Colleges is corrupt and rates them by alumni contributions. Not testing results on what was learned. Talk about a Royal system of bullshit being set up lol. It's like the start of a class system where the product of those institutions gain wealth, hire those alumni and back them in politics and for court positions and funnel wealth back in. Also that's a smaller part of the contributions because billions came from Europe. I've been watching things for decades and studying sources of influence and their moves and I have a pretty good idea the group it comes from. The only one who could afford it and would stand to make a gain on that sort of investment, though they wouldn't need it.
That seems to be the easiest to track. Other situations are put together in the US and seem to align with what's being done in Colleges. Media has gone from biased in one way or another to basically a propaganda conglomerate. The government controls who gains access to the open air ways and public money for TV and Radio, and those have all become very thick in pushing propaganda. Media is basically owned by 6 big corps. NBC corruption was easy to track and their favorable treatment. GE, which was their parent company got pulled out of big financial trouble by government contracts and tax exemptions, and their bias was obvious and extreme. Not that the other networks didn't follow about the same line, but their bias was less extreme and crazy. NBC was bought by a super wealthy Mexican billionaire, forget his name, but the bias continues. CNN was caught taking money to follow the Obama administration direction as to which stories were promoted and which ignored. I'm sure there is much going on that I don't specifically know about, but the results of corruption, are obvious.
There has been concerted attacks on the US Constitution, though judges and politicians agree to uphold it. The main push has been to get around it. That is a theme in Colleges. We have supreme court judges who openly defy the law, when their job is to uphold it and they swear to do so. The US constitution is at the base of what has made the US very successful. A huge leap in the respect for the individual and repelling corruption in government allowing the little people to thrive and move up like no other country. Great for "the people" not so happily for extreme wealth and power people who tend to want to expand control and wealth without threat to position by people beneath them.
The people of the US became the most charitable group of people in the world, based on individual giving. Not so good for those who'd like to control all that through government so as to manipulate voting blocks and maintain and grow power. I'm not talking about the faces we see in government, I'm talking about the people who bought those positions and basically own them.
JFK wrote some very cryptic writings before he died that seem kind of crazy. About forces in the world out to corrupt and take power. It seems he'd had a shift in thinking and change of loyalty. He went against his party and advocated equal rights for black people, which was finally passed after his death. His popularity gained support for it so his heir basically had no choice after his death. Johnson, a racist piece of shit, vice president actually signed it after it won in congress, after fighting it for decades.
Then a bunch of social programs came out. Black groups who'd been oppressed by Democrats, Johnson, were targeted for social programs. This after Martin Luther King was assassinated. Assholes like Jessie Jackson stepped up (he literally stepped up and wiped King's blood on himself and acted like he'd been right there). Started pushing black people to the Democratic party who were pushing the social programs heavily, though republicans were with them. MLK had joined the Democrats after JFK had his change of heart and joined with the Republicans to push for black rights.
Jessie Jackson and others pushed for more social programs. Started pushing division and hate in the black communities. They became wealthy, millionaires, where did that come from? Programs gave free money and housing. They also tore black men, fathers from the homes though as they wouldn't pay if there was a man in the home.
Around the same time drugs started being pushed into black neighborhoods. Entertainment pushed cultural changes, it was cool to not play "the man's" game. The white man's game. Cool to be derelict and do drugs and drink and have no job. Black liberation theology was created by Progressives to turn black churches into places of division and hate. To instill resentment and a view that all white people were the enemy. A little later came glorification of gangster sheek, gang life, thug culture. Music was heavily promoted from gang culture. Promoted to the point (music and in movies) a lot of impressionable white kids wanted to be black gangsta with the language and all that.
Organizations came up like Acorn, pushing welfare with a goal to get so many people on welfare that the system would collapse and a new one could be created, a communist system. That was the stated goal of the founder, I'm pretty sure he gave an interview and said exactly that after 2000. Crash the system Guru's like Cloward and Piven, Saul Alinski were teaching in Colleges and creating movements. The Weather underground doing terrorist attacks. Bill Ayers, who Obama knew well and who promoted Obama's kick off into politics in his home. Obama's mentor, Frank Marshal Davis (Valery Jarrett's father) a pro communist on the FBI list of enemies to the country, with strong ties to Iran, also to Chicago crime / politics. Valery's said she's Iranian. Wrote in college that she planned to promote islam in the US, using our constitutional protections against us.
George Soros was on the scene, pushing Acorn. Obama involved with him pushing the community reinvestment act Carter started and Bill Clinton kicked up. To force banks to reinvest in cities where they did business. Basically to give bad loans. Obama was paid to teach Acorn protesters to attack bankers in the banks and attack their homes even. Goal was to intimidate them into writing loans they didn't want to write, bad loans to interests with correlation to the protesters handlers politics.
George Soros created a number of organizations that seemed to have a common theme, to push division and cause problems in areas and themes, of political importance. Tides, Joyce, many organizations. Obama actually ended up funding the Chicago Climate Exchange from Soros Joyce foundation where he was working at the time. Obama was a grass roots community organizer heavily aligned with acorn organization which Soros poured money into.
George Soros is extremely active world wide, and was made a multi billionaire by an extremely wealthy powerful individual's investment in quantum fund. That individual a member of what I believe is the most powerful cartel in the world, or in world history. That seems to be where the bulk of the money to bribe colleges in the US had to come from.
They are also connected to Cecil Rhodes, they got his mining company after his death. DeBeers mining, Diamonds most notable for. Rhodesia was named after Rhodes and he was a bloody mass murdering oppressor, doing about anything to further his interests. Murder of competitors as well. Murder to keep diamonds rare. Well the company ended up in the hands of cartel members Rothschild is aligned with, the entity which made or helped make Soros billions in quantum fund.
Soros, who's been heavily pushing the EU. Pushing open borders. Convicted of insider trading in currency in France. Seen as financial terrorist by China. Russia has just outlawed his organizations and seems like they might go after him. Has bragged about taking down a few countries systems. Is working heavily in the US involved in media / propaganda. Pushing unqualified Muslim mass immigration world wide. Was involved in Libya before the "revolution" where the rebels contacted central bankers (the cartel who helped Soros become a billionaire in Quantum fund) as their first real move after getting the upper hand. Was involved in attacking Mubarak and getting the Muslim Brotherhood into power in Egypt. Involved with known terrorists in Egypt, Libya, and the attack on the Israeli blockade of weapons into Gaza.
There is much more, like a Soros group, Media Matters involved in CNNs being bought off on behalf of the Obama administration. Soros breaking the bank of England. Making incredibly profitable currency trades ... not so incredible if he's in touch with the cartel who helped him in Quantum fund, which also happens to own central bank charters in every country in the world but 3 (Libya was 4, they now use that central bank as well so now 3).
The information on this stuff can fill volumes.
I didn't really start out to go here, but the information leads here. It's hard to understand one situation without understanding relationships involved because one situation is really a number of situations, but with common influence.
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@Dog_in_tree Well if you can't understand the comparisons and living math, I can't fix that.
I can say we're not losing our rights because? I pay attention. We lost bump stocks, ok, a toy that no serious person uses, but that's tiny. Ignoring all of the regs removed, the hostility by the Obama regulators being rolled back and controls put on them and all the rest? It means you're living in a small bubble and you don't understand what's going on. Obama was actively conspiring to take guns, fast and furious? The ATF was hostile to law abiding gun owners, not so much actual criminals. It's so much better under Trump.
To say Trump's tax cuts are nothing? False. He's cut taxes and he's trying for more. Taxes are WAY DOWN. The economy is? BOOMING
Trump is still working on more tax cuts, he faced considerable opposition, media insanity. and he's still pushing things the right way.
You're being deliberately negative. Might you be a white supremacist who's pissed off about Trump's doing good things in Israel? Your arguments don't add up to rational, seems something you're not saying is behind your real beef. Am I wrong?
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WHITE NATIONALISM ... it's a? Phantom. It does exist, but it's tiny and nothing of importance. It's amplified by Globalists because they're pushing to disintegrate the bases of freedom and individual rights, which are based in White Majority countries. Yeah, that's a fact. Ethno Nationalism is HUGE, but it's not white as a thing. Mexican? Yep, it's the law in Mexico. In African Countries? In Arab Countries? Spanish Ethno Majorities? Yep, and nothing is said in the Globalist controlled media. Globalists actually fund and hire actors for US White Nationalist Demonstrations. Why? Think about it. You know why. They want to import a change to majority European cultures which are the best places to live on earth. That doesn't help them. They need poverty, discontent, division and strife. The Fabian (Socialist) window explains their methods perfectly. Set the world on fire to forge it closer to the hearts desire. What is the hearts desire of Globalists who created the Fabian Socialist, and through them US Prog movement? One world Government, with themselves in charge. World wide slavery of humanity. Control of human kind as of live stock, which ideas were expressed in Eugenics. One of the books US Progressives gave Hitler when he requested their cognitive hack directions, written by Progressive Ed Bernays, nephew of Sigmund Freud. Like other Globalist Spawned groups, the Muslim Brotherhood, and Left in Europe (Fabians), US Progressives Loved Hitler. He was doing what they planned and was way ahead of them.
You guys have been conned by the Globalist controlled media into seeing things through their lens, which is a false view based on erroneous foundation. You've seen much of this and framed it in your own universe of ideas, but you've got a long way to go to understand what's really behind all the "insanity". Call it "Propaganda Induced Mass Neurosis" which is more accurate. Germany was a great test of the principals of Propaganda. It worked so well, we should all take a lesson and reject obviously biased sources and their universe of ideas. Media Education and Entertainment were prime targets in Germany by Goebbels, and it's the same now world wide. Beware of these Propagandists. Understand where their money comes from what who and what they promote. Then you will see them and their product for what they are, and know their purpose. Propaganda.
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The thing about Obama? He was part of George Soros conspiracies , which are Globalist's conspiracies, early in his life. He came up in organized crime, connected to Globalist crime, all his life. Obama actually funded the Chicago Climate Exchange from Soros' Joyce foundation. The Chicago Climate exchange is a scam based on the Global Warming scam, created by criminal affiliate to Rockefeller, Maurice Strong, who invented using bogus climate.science as a scam to give power to the UN over all the people because CO2 is involved in all areas of human life. The CO2 bullshit is an obvious scam, pushed through mass propaganda. CO2 has been 3000 PPM and never caused warming. It's targeted because of the level of control it applies against the average human. To tax and control them. This is always pushed by the guys (Soros is the face) who do Globalist meetings, the CFR, Builderberg, many other meetings of influential people including most billionaires ... Globalists. JFK warned us about these people, how they corrupt, and their connections.
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@ph1losopher Well he had a whole series on history that had been revised and hidden. Brought together a lot of
historians and pieced some very interesting things together and taught them. I mean fascists don't like history
so if you're a Collectivist Fascist (like Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro/Che and some others who
didn't get as far like Clinton & Obama) you'll hate the history.
His history of black people in the USA brought out important facts. Like there have been free black people in
the USA since long before the civil war, and they took a strong part in the Revolutionary War. The "shot heard
round the world" Lexington/Concord was when a bunch of people going to church with a black pastor, about 50/50 black and white ran out to stop the British who were coming for the guns stockpile near that area.
Also that Black and Whites weren't life time slaves, but served a term to pay back those who bought them.
Indentured servitude. There were white and black "slaves". The cotton boom inspired the slavery for life
thing. A freed black man growing cotton (they, black and white, usually got 40 acres and a mule to work it)
sued to make slavery permanent. The court agreed, putting financial interests above interests of justice and
freedom.
THIS IS MY TAKE AWAY HAVING STUDIED INJUSTICE AND DISINFORMATION FOR DECADES:
Leftists still do it, calling things others have to pay to provide "Human Rights" in a perverted
bending of the philosophy of rights, to push back to a sort of soft slavery which encourages division and
societal weakness so society can be exploited by the very wealthy by buying the governments in charge of
implementing the soft slavery).
Beck followed associations and actions to ferret out motives of powerful players in the world, like
George Soros. Soros of course hated this. MY INFO BECKS FOUNDATION OF INFORMATION HELPED ME
DISCOVER: He's been the face of a larger movement, of groups who've been manipulating society for a long
time. Cecil Rhodes was similar.Cecil was the face of DeBeers and it's horrors and slavery & bloody
oppression in Africa and around the world. The real owners still own it, they financed it. Cecil Rhodes was
their face as Soros is now. Rhodes was important in creating the Propaganda School of Economics, known
as the London School of Economics and the Fabian Socialist Society to promote Socialism (Collectivism)
through propaganda based in a University. The Fabian Socialists built the Progressive Movement in the USA
which purpose was to push for a bank charter for the central bank that President Jackson had gotten denied
which was no small feat as they wielded influence by bribery, in media, extortion, and violent assassination
of opposition ... pretty much what they're doing today. AND to move the USA to discredit and discard the
US Constitution, which gets in the way of Wealthy influence buying governments and control of peoples.
The group which promoted the Muslim Brotherhood and took Islamic Populations back to the 6th century
are the same. Soros is important, you can follow him and follow their movements. Zbigenew Zabrinski
(spelling) was also very important, and worked with Soros to destroy the areas around the Balkans. The
Democrats and many Republicans are involved with these people in one way or another. It's world wide.
Note how the USA and others fostered and basically invented ISIS? How Obama had Muslim Brotherhood
members in his government in important positions. They are terrorists, the mother of modern Islamic
Terrorism, but avoided designation by bribery and influence, the Globalists (Soros friends) pave their way.
The USA and others helped the Muslim Brotherhood spin offs (Like Iranian Despots) work to destroy
every Muslim Leader who protected Minority Religions and Moderate Muslims.
They've used the destroyed people, brainwashed and hostile to basically everyone but throwback Islam
to invade the West, using their old pretexts of racism and charity to push Military Aged Radicalized Males
as Refugees. Soros orgs are huge in this. Also they push South American and Mexican people they've
destroyed through economic sabotage into the US. The Masses coming up from Honduras for the mid
term elections, are being used by George Soros and friends (Globalists) using the same MO they use time
after time. They're being paid and offered money and housing, cars, and a free life, no work, in the USA, like
Middle Eastern and Africans have been in the west. Same MO over and over.
Glen Beck research gave key information to help me on my research of what the hell was going on in the
world. Why the media was constantly acting as propaganda, not journalism. I mean it's been going on a
LONG time. Globalist influence in Media has always supported the worst despots, that they usually
helped to power. Hitler? Yep, and all the scumbags I listed above as Collectivist leaders who usually also
mass murder. Hitler was helped by the Bushes, Ford, all kinds of huge Globalist business in financing,
weaponizing, and cover until his moves were almost unstoppable. Chamberlain in the UK preached love
for Hitler. Churchill who say the hell on it's way through Hitler and the Nazis was treated as they treat
all who are in their way. Called a Warmongering Idiot, and everything they could pull out to defame him.
Similar to how they treated Reagan, and now Donald Trump. When big media supports someone, it's
not because they are good for the people, but it's because they are good for Globalist ambitions, which
are not good for the average people, ever. At least past a short as possible honey moon period to gain
support, which is always betrayed.
When big Media/Entertainment/Academia, supports something or someone, it's a good bet they're an
enemy. JFK was an exception, because he changed his loyalty, from the Globalists who created him.
(JFK graduated from the LSE (London School of Economics, a Propaganda University) as did Soros and
many other subversive figures who got into governments with the help of Globalist influences). JFK
warned of a world wide conspiracy which planned to enslave every man woman & child in the US. He
threatened to out them. This man who they'd built up like a God turned on them. What happened next?
Glen Beck was instrumental in connecting a lot of dots that made seeing what was going on, and
building on that knowledge, possible. Why do Globalists work to destroy history? To push lies as
people's truth? To brainwash populations? They can't gain support if facts are known, and people
won't be so divided and fighting (weakening their societies to make them vulnerable) if the
foundation of factual history and information is widely accepted. Their economics is a deliberate
(and ridiculous if you study it with important facts available) scam. Hiding the source of real wealth
(which is production) and crediting Governments with creating it. (Governments and monetary
systems can be great facilitation and protection of the economic environment from crime, but they
don't create actual wealth, which is in goods and services which money only represents).
Glen is weak, selfish, Soros seems to have scared the hell out of him. He apologized and pulled
back his very factual expose of George Soros and others working with him and the Progressive
Movement (which is the US faction of the Globalist Movement). BUT Glen Beck did a lot for the
enlightenment of a lot of people. So it usually is. Good and Bad from one source. Glen is a snake,
but a valuable contributor to education, even if he's somewhat of a propagandist tool at this time.
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Helping the people of Iran take back the power from Despots would solve a lot, and it would be amazing for the great Iranian people who hate their crazy leaders. There are forces in this world who want Iranian terrorism and their people oppressed. They are Globalists who hate Jews and Christians, who are illegally (Anti 1 A) being protected by the ADL and stooges, as Jews, so you can't criticize them. Crushing speech leads to horrible things. It allowed the German Nazis to push the propaganda that resulted in Germans allowing what was done to the Jewish people, under false charges of racism and hate for Germans pushed in pervasive media academia and entertainment, like Libs are doing in USA right now to paint the best people in the USA as the dangerous enemy. Who funded and fostered the Nazis? Got them great media? Globalists who hate Jews, who people falsely tend to ID as Jews, which is mostly false, and as a religion, completely false. Even the blood lines are dubious of the few who ID as Jewish.
DO NOT ATTACK FREE SPEECH. THE TRUTH SHALL SET US FREE ... unless the truth is bad for you, then you're a scumbag. That's how it is.
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Zero Cool This guy had super conspicuous stickers all over his van in South Florida where it would draw
hostility from Democrats who like to do brown shirt action. He's been a Democrat. He's a felon who they
said was Registered to vote, against the law in Florida. The "bombs" were not serious bombs. Don't be so
sure she's wrong. It stinks more now than ever.
His Social Media which was scrubbed was connected to Democrats, like he's a Resistance guy. Yahoo
news reported he both hated and loves Trump. We're dealing with a bunch of people who lied about
Trump, a complicit Media who helped create a bogus case that got a bogus fisa warrant to illegally spy
on political opposition. A huge cover up of this still underway. Part of which is a huge investigation done
by an involved official who is not legally allowed to be in his position by statute he was appointed under,
but Mueller is. FBI officials forged a 302 form to frame General Flynn, and illegally leaked his conversation
to do with his duties. A complicit media which called his communications with the Russian Ambassador
illegal, which they are not. That is routine. A media which lied step by step to suck the people into a false
narritive. A Bogus special council which used partisan hacks, some of whom were involved in the bogus
prosecution of Senator Stevens from Alaska, which caused him to lose his Senate Race and got the Dems
a 60 vote majority in the Senate. The case was later determined to be fraudulent, with invented evidence,
hidden exculpatory evidence. Witnesses coerced to lie. Other partisan hacks like Weisman who's been
involved in the same shit before and would be disbarred but powerful friends of his got the just proceedings
to go his way. Weisman was being briefed on the set up of Trump before there was a special council. AND
the bullshit still goes on.
Tell me this fake bomb guy who's hated Trump and has CIA connections, who suddenly hates the politicians
he supported, couldn't be a setup? It's more likely than not, it's a setup. Timed perfectly for the mid term
election. A van insanely covered with stickers, which is in fact illegal in his area of residence and I think
every other area in the USA. It obstructs view. This thing stinks to high heaven. Luckily most people seem to
be on to Democrats / Globalists bullshit. They pull this too often to miss it. Lame set up's with Media
complicity. Big Media/Entertainment/Academia which has been co-opted by Globalist influence for decades
which has given great press to every disgusting leader who's killed people in mass, like Hitler, Stalin, Mao
Mussolini, Castro/Che, all mass murderers, and Chavez, who's had thousands murdered and jailed and
masses died of starvation in a country rich as hell in natural resources. Big information has been bought
and stolen. World wide big information decemination is nothing but propaganda, with tentacles from secret
societies which George Soros always plays a big roll in. Surprise Surprise!
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wu doreen stop being an idiot parrot of a totally corrupt complicit media.
Hillary said it was 2 for 1 and she knew Bill raped women & she trashed to ruin them & paid people to investigate and brutally harass them. As in vandalism of their property, beating witnesses, a couple murders of women probably connected, killing pets as warning, threatening their kids.
11 rape complaints all by Democrat women he worked with or around, and 19 more sexual assaults. Most women probably didn't complain because of the intense threats and warnings and accounts of other women who were trashed and ruined, before the whole country.
Hillary has broken the law concerning handling of classified information. Felony even if there is gross negligence, which there was, at least. This has landed many in jail who've done far less with no intent proven.
Hillary has destroyed evidence after receiving a subpoena. She used bleach bit to erase it beyond recovery, which is more than enough to prove intent. Thousands of counts on that Obstruction of justice felony.
Hillary is proven to have lied to the FBI, a felony, which landed Martha Stewart in Jail.
Hillary lied to congress, it's proven, a felony.
Hillary has actually exposed through speech classified information on US secrets. It's proven, it's espionage. It's a felony.
There are five felonies committed by Hillary, thousands of counts, which are now public information. There are more.
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Now, you're getting ridiculous with your Absolutes, which are a key indicator of indoctrination and giving up of reason. Trump does a lot of business over seas and has for a long time. That puts him WAY ahead of Obama when he ran. WAY Ahead. Also ahead of Hillary who totally fucked shit up in her tryout. People fucking died on her watch, probably she murdered Stevens. She LIED about it being caused by a video. Somehow massive amounts of weapons ended up going from Libya to Syria (probably why Stevens had to be murdered, he was involved). She was involved in a huge cover up where sought witnesses were sent out of country for over a year. She lied her ass off on the News. Lied her ass on in front of victims families. She does far more lying her ass off than telling things strait, and still she's a viable candidate? Something is fucking wrong with our media and justice department there. Seriously fucking wrong!
Trump isn't perfect. I'm not looking for perfect. I sure as fuck don't want an extremely corrupt bitch like Hillary as president? You've got to be fucking kidding me! She was fired off the Nixon Watergate trials for lying, gross fraud and conspiring to violate the constitution, by a serious partisan Democrat. She was involved in the Rose law firms shit, for which many went to jail, and she was protected, like Bill was for so many crimes. It goes downhillary from there man, DOWN.
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***** What I've said would be worth commenting on if you had a decent quality of thought.
If you think Trump preys on bigotry, then you have not heard what Trump says, but small snips cut to paint a false impression of what he said. I know, I've seen them. I've also taken the time to analyze.
The US government said they can't vet the Refugees slated to come in by the 100s of thousands. The Obama administration has put in blocks to investigating muslims, which lead to the recent mass murdering terrorist in California getting through. The Obama administration has blocked and scrapped investigations which have turned up troubling information which it also banned from being transmitted to other organizations. Information on the mosque the California Murderers and their accomplice were radicalized at.
Understanding those facts, do you think calling for a halt to immigration of a group the Obama administration is blocking investigation into is just blind bigotry? Really?
Do you understand the situation with the Obama administration encouraging illegal immigration from Mexico? In not prosecuting criminal illegal aliens for very real crimes and people being killed by them as a result? Obama is importing a bunch of illegal aliens in order to change the voting structure of the US and resisting efforts to have ID to vote, which almost every country has, even the dirt poor third world countries. He's pushing a massive cheat and selling out the country. He's aligned with George Soros who he's worked with and for in the past and it's been on corrupt cheat of the US people. Soros has been involved in massive corruption world wide and destructive crashing of governments and economies. Media has been bought off and controlled to a large extent by people Soros is connected to and specifically by his orgs. Media matters, which is a Soros org was busted with the Obama administration bribing CNN for selected coverage. What stories to run and what not to run.
Now Obama is trying to bring in massive numbers of military aged male Muslims that our agencies are saying they can't vet. His own cabinet members have stood up against him. He's got 7 Muslim Brotherhood members involved in homeland security immigration. The Muslim Brotherhood is a terrorist organization. Even the UK just recognized this and made the official distinction. Obama is blocking investigation into the mass number of muslim's backgrounds and their social media usage.
I didn't get all of this from Trump, but what people involved have said in blowing the whistle with documented information.
Do you think Trump's suggestion of a temporary moratorium on that group which has just mass murdered, and has a number of times in recent past, is just playing to bigotry? It's the only position on the situation that's not fucking insane, or deliberately subversive to the people of the US.
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Problem Dave Rubin ... you've adopted the media bullshit about Trump, when he's been a good guy all his life. Never a racist or crook until he stepped into the political arena. When you try to equalize Hillary, one of the most vile bitches in our history, let alone politics, with a good man like Donald Trump you're WAY off base.
You supported a slobbering moonbat Gary Johnson who is no more libertarian than Hillary .. ok, maybe a bit more than Hillary, but I'm Libertarian and Gary Johnson is no way Libertarian. The guy couldn't even find his ass with both hands, or Alepo Syria. He talks about what we should do, when he doesn't have a clue what the world is.
I've come to respect you Dave, but holy shit. In your assessments of candidates you're dumber than a box of rocks. You're like a school kid who lied about doing the studying and trying to bullshit their way through the subject in class, and everyone knows.
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+The Rubin Report, check out Crowders vid on Cenks stuff on the second amendment. He did a pretty good job.
As far as slippery slope? You have only to check out other countries and how they've taken little steps to practically outlaw most guns and make owning ANY a pain in the ass so PAIN in the assful that people just gave them up. Ireland is a prime example.
If you want to get a gun that can kill hundreds in minutes, you have to go to a place they move real slow, lol, AND you need an automatic. You can't just go get an assault rifle. The guns the government is focused on are just mean looking semi automatics which are no more lethal than any other. The reason to have 30 round mags is that in an actual fire fight situation most bullets don't hit the mark because people are afraid of being hit themselves. Trained cops have shootouts with perps from a few feet away. Dozens of rounds fired, no one hit. Getting shot at is a scary mother fucker, make you do your drawers n shit.
The most susceptible areas to mass murders are in places where no one else carries. Good people trained to use a gun are more effective than police because they are there when they need a gun, and they are around when others may need defense.
If I was disturbed and wanted to kill in mass I wouldn't even use a semi auto, ... fuck this, I'm not saying it. No sense giving some asshole ideas.
The NRA is a good organization. Why do you think it's so strong? The NRA is about reducing violence. The members have the lowest crime rate stats in the nation. What's with the maligning and defamation against the NRA?
I want people who carry to be well trained and evaluated, but PROBLEM! BIG FUCKING PROBLEM! Government. A government that sicks the IRS and other agencies on people of different political leanings and fucks them up, and a justice system which is completely partisan. The no fly list lists many people on the federal pay roll lol. They can put on whomever they want, and to use that to deny a Constitutional right? Fuck no. It's an easy cheap get around and the corrupt politicians won't hesitate to use it. They've shown us that in spades over and over again.
What's the answer? If someone pulls out a gun in a theater and starts taking aim ... SHOOT THE FUCKER! If you can't that's the problem. Sitting ducks are the problem. They breed predation, like blood in the water attracts sharks.
Where are the largest mass murders in history? ALL places where the population was denied weapons capable of defending against government. Genocides, there are plenty, and recently (since the invention of fire arms that repeat) imposition of gun control has preceded them ALL.
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mikeissjr Ask Saudi why they were scared shitless Saddam would attack them. He'd already been attacking Iran.I can't find reference to Russians killed, but it was news at the time. There had been Russian's involved in Iraq, and in a convoy which was bombed as the war started a bunch of Russians were found dead.
This helps understand Russia had a long term presence in Iraq. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq%E2%80%93Russia_relations
The UN authorized force if Saddam didn't comply with resolution 13. He's bought off much of the UN and I guess he didn't think he had to comply as nothing significant had been on the last 12 resolutions in a row he'd broken.
Bush went along with the UN, Democrats were louder in their cry for war than Bush, notably Hillary Clinton and John Fucking Kerry, later Bill Clinton said he'd have taken the same action as GWB. It turns out (huge revelation) that the UN had been bribed and several countries in the UN security council as well. I guess they never figured that crazy bastard would break another resolution. He probably thought they'd shield him. The UN authorized force if Saddam didn't comply. He's been making threats against the US and other countries. He broke the resolution and every intelligence agency from security council countries said Saddam was hiding his WMD, as he spied on the inspectors movements, and moved things in a hurry in some places he found they would inspect. He broke it, force was authorized.
Then the UN reneged as the US was on the way. As we were about to invade, the last possible days because of weather the democrats backed out, knowing if Bush stopped he would be a goat, and if he went forward they could use it against him. He pretty much had to go. There was credible threat and Saddam had been defying the UN from the very start and was starving huge segments of his population. Trying to completely wipe out the Kurds and other small groups and also creating extreme misery in Shiite populations which was most of Iraq.
Bush did care about the UN, but they were extremely corrupted by Saddam. They've been extremely corrupt since conception and really should be disbanded, at least kicked out of the US. Bush shouldn't have given a fuck about the UN in it's state, but he did.
He also shouldn't have listened to duplicitous assholes in the aftermath of the war, but he did. He had the best and brightest like Rumsfeld and others he should have just let take care of it, but he allowed idiots to impose their bullshit and the aftermath went stupid. Iran was influencing through their allies in Iraq, who we should have just wiped out, like Al Sadder. We should have hit Iran hard for their actions in Iraq, but we didn't. We should have used Iraqi oil to pay for the campaign they forced on US, but people were yammering about it, so Bush didn't, and then they bitched about how plans to pay for it didn't pan out. The same scum bags.
I'm afraid your information on all that has been very skewed. More propaganda than reality.
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Lars Magnus Samuelsson Svenssonsenn Magnussvensamuelsson Thor Ironic again lol, that would make such erroneous statements and then call me a Moron (>.<) That's very rich, and pretty entertaining.
There were several countries involved. Every country in the UN security council concluded Saddam was hiding WMD. Democrats in congress who were LOUD about it had access to the same intelligence. You war was manufactured isn't only a conspiracy theory, which isn't bad on it's own, there are conspiracies and always have been, but there are not facts to back this up.
You probably got this info from someone who is a very bad source and very obviously biased. If you give a fuck about reality, I'd be skeptical of this source.
The facts remain. Congressionally approved on the intelligence of several different countries, not just the CIA, for what the US did while Bush was Commander in Chief.
The facts now? Idiotic actions in Egypt which got the Muslim Brotherhood into power. Or they were deliberate?
Idiotic action against Libya (or deliberate?) which ISIS is taking over and may well use as it's base.
Unfounded action against Syria, who was fighting what we now know as ISIS. Assad was going after crazies who were killing Christians, Other religions, Kurds, and Muslims they thought were to secular, as in not murdering people of different faiths.
Then there is IRAN. Huge legitimate uprising AGAINST the crazies who kill gay people and stone raped women for Adultery in public. Uprising because they cheated the election. They were murdering their own people in the streets. In the whole spirit that got us to fuck up things in Egypt, Lybia, and try to fuck up Syria ... why not help the good people in Iran? Who were not the crazies? Well, what do you think?
So, you are not only ignorant of facts and very lose with stupid accusations you can't back up ... your thoughts on this (maybe thoughts is a bad way to put it?) are disconnected with many realities you should be able to pick up on if you pay any kind of attention to what's going on. If you do any study of history involving the subject, that would be even more helpful.
YOU, call ME, a Moron? HAHAHAHA! That's great.
You say Larry Elder with all of his information and cogent analysis ... an ideologue? wow. Clue, if you want to see ideologues, look at the source of your painfully misinformed views. Views a little bit of actual thought should bring doubt to.
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Kb Tokes lol, the tea party was started by a Democrat on CNBC who was pissed off at the Obama administration. It was created to push back on Washington over reach. Their goal was to have government abide by our constitution when they were ignoring it. It's our law and there is a way to change it, legally.
They were maligned by Main Stream Media and Democrats in government, though they had peaceful protests and no police reports and even cleaned up their own messes.
Sarah Palin was set up to look like an idiot in a highly edited video. This was a woman who took on corrupt factions in her own party. Went to the people around the media and government, governor who was against her and turned things and got corrupt officials convicted and ended up winning the governorship, and had the highest approval rating in the country, approaching 90% and had a high approval rating among democrats, close to 70%. Palin is brilliant. She just didn't get her news from magazines. People who get their news from magazines are not getting good news generally. There are better sources. How she was treated in Media and in entertainment is a testament to how corrupt both are in the US. I mean that rotten corrupt bitch Hillary Clinton [who bashed her husbands rape victims to shut them up and has a history going back to the Watergate trials she was fired from for extreme corruption, lying, conspiring to violate the constitution, to violate rules of the house and of confidentiality by her boss who was a seriously partisan democrat] got a show on TV called "Madam Secretary" with a beautiful actress who is a consistent hero on the show. I mean that's in support of Hillary. Meant to support Hillary. One of the most corrupt reprehensible figures in politics who's been busted taking campaign money from China who's been our enemy. Her husband Bill got China advanced missile technology by going around proper channels and using the department of commerce to sign an illegal deal. He also got chinese money. Al Gore carrying bags of money from a Chinese monastery is one of the most comical depictions of governmental corruption ever seen. That year the Democrats broke election law and didn't disclose their contributions, until after the election. The election legally should have been stopped, their participation in it, until those records were shown, but they have the advantage of deep corruption in the government in their favor.
OWS were idiots protesting in places where the corporations didn't live. Just the stock was traded. They were lawless, nasty, occupied parks without legal right, harassed people. There was huge problems with crime in their camps, rape, robbery, murder, and they were given a pass and love by media and the democrats in Washington. Another testament to how biased the media in the US is.
KB Tokes pov on this not only won't help you much. It's a deluded pov based on a lot of propaganda and obviously a lack of curiosity for the truth.
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Kb Tokes explain my bias then? Where was I inaccurate? You can look about all of that up.
Tea Party was started by a Democrat, and I watched it start. Their beef was unconstitutional government acts. They didn't harass people, unless you call asking uncomfortable questions in town halls harassment. They kicked corrupt politicians out of office by pushing new blood in primaries. They wanted term limits for congress which would do much to eliminate corruption.
Did OWS actually protest in any of the businesses HQs? Or did they gum up areas that had nothing to do with them? Was there not rapes? Were they not trespassing illegally? Didn't the Democrats and media not support them? They bitched about the "1%" lol, idiots. It was a mindless socialist shitstorm and most of them were clueless as to particulars of what they were actually protesting and there was a point where most people in some protests were just paid to show up and make noise. My brother tried to ask them questions and they had handlers who would tell them to shut the fuck up. Soros money was used for a lot of the pay offs.
What I said of Sarah was absolutely true. There was corrupt leadership in Alaska. I mean either that or the many convictions that came from the investigations she instigated were wrong, but they weren't. You can look up the approval ratings she had. Huge even among democrats. She was the highest rated governor at the time McStain chose her to run with him, and it's possible the highest rated governor in history. She took on her own party, mostly alone at first, and kicked a good ol boys network's ass. She is no fool, no idiot, she was just portrayed that way on TV.
The gotcha interview was highly edited. She was ambushed with a question about what magazines she read. Who the fuck reads magazines to get a feel for what's going on? Saturday Night Live Lampooned her, depicting her as saying she said ridiculous things she never said. This after Obama had been supported for actual president, without any foreign policy experience at all. Nothing like that about Obama or Biden. They got easy media coddling, as democrats do on Networks as they attack republicans like they are agents for the Democratic party. Actually they are in a defacto way.
I'm not tunnel visioned, I just don't agree with your low info opinions. I don't even like bible thumpers in political office, and Palin is one. What she isn't is stupid. Palin is Brilliant and effective as hell. You got a propagandized view. No, I don't go with your propaganized view.
If you can't refute what I'm saying, catch a clue, it's YOU who is biased and low info.
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Kb Tokes OWS were a bunch of tools, idiots. They were ranting about the 1%. The only good that came from them was bullshit in media.
And you, pass laws against particular corporations? lol, that's the fucking problem. Passing laws against groups, not general laws. Who was the biggest supporter of the big corps? OBAMA was and is. He's been pounding the little guy and getting paid by the uber rich, like Soros and the people Soros works for. The crooked sweetheart deals for the fake solar power companies that went broke and took the government guaranteed loan money with them and Obama fixed it so there wouldn't be recovery for the loss, which has never been done. The corps who got this deal? Big Obama contributors. Soros biggest investment, Petrobras Brazilian oil company got the over trillion $ BP oil find. Also the Obama administration got them billions to explore for oil while cutting US companies out, disallowing their operations so the oil rigs left and went to Brazilian and Mexican oil concerns. Then there is the XL pipe line, obstructed for another contributor and shill for Obama, Warren Buffet. Stopped the clean pipe line and have to keep using his trains, that made Buffet BILLIONS! While Obama pushed the US deeper and deeper in debt to Soros buddies who own the US federal reserve. We owe them over 10 trillion, and the news is making noise about owing China just over a trillion? Seriously?
The Kotch brothers did get in on the tea party. What the Kotches do in politics in NOTHING compared to Soros, Open borders asshole Soros. Asshole who had Obama fund the Chicago Climate Exchange scam from the Joyce foundation which Soros created and which Obama worked for. Hello? The tea party were about the Constitution. You're parroting lies because you are clueless about anything you don't see on TV. Soros WAS OWS. It was complete fucking ASTROTURF. Yeah, people hate Obama because he's a mega corrupt lawless piece of shit who's fucked our country, and used our federal agencies as political weapons against his opponents illegally. He makes Nixon look like a choir boy! duhh? The only people who wouldn't have a piece of shit like Obama are clueless or corrupt. I haven't even gotten started! Stealing pension funds from auto companies when by law they were first in line to be compensated and giving their retirements to Unions? Completely illegal. Just changing executives at auto companies at will and shutting down private dealerships arbitrarily? Cash for clunkers catastrophe? Attacking Gibson guitar to help their competition because they gave to Obama and Gibson gave to Republicans? That's ok with you I guess, but it's fucking WAY over the line. Using the IRS to attack campaigning organizations opposed to him while leaving those which supported him alone, getting their status updated? Obama should be in jail. Hate Obama? HELL YES HATE OBAMA. It would take volumes to document all his shit. Obamacare? Passed by fucking us and giving a huge boon to huge medical corporations? How the hell is that helping the little guy? His statements about it were lies. He passed it using intimidation and bribery. And now we're fucked with that horrible catastrophe!
We had illegal aliens being encouraged to come. Now we have unvetted Muslims which the Obama administration actually blocked checks on KILLING PEOPLE IN CALIFORNIA. Obama administration has 6 Muslim Brotherhood terrorists working for Homeland security! The US fails to identity Muslim Brotherhood as terrorist, but UK and many other countries have. The Obama administration stopped investigation into mosques including the one who radicalized the California Shooter and his accomplice. Told the agents involved that they couldn't transmit what they'd found! One agent said hell with that and transmitted anyway and got in trouble. Then he blew the whistle publicly. Did ya hear about that one? We have Muslims pulling terrorist attacks and the media is hiding the fact that they are Muslims and terror attacks like Philly where the shooter said it was a terrorist attack, and Los Vegas where the bitch who killed people with her car was yelling ALLAUH AKBAR! for hells sake. Obama is pushing his weight around so the media doesn't report honestly, but that's been going on some time now.
And you're totally clueless aren't you? Your views are what one gets from buying what the media is putting out. Propaganda.
Keep on Tokin dumb ass, the real world is going by and you have no clue.
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Kb Tokes I know you can't, and I'm off the snark ok? lol. I know where your take comes from. I've spend a hell of a lot of time in study on these things. Decades. Wanting to make sense of things that just didn't add up. Everything adds up if you know all the details and are mentally flexible enough to look without clouding the issue with your own desires and opinions, which is very hard.
Of course I didn't get all the info in there, because I'd need volumes, but Hillary is deeply corrupt as is Bill.
I'm not excited about the choices, but I'm leaning Trump, and I am happy with how he's fought back and not cowered before the media. You can't win attempting to appease an enemy, just doesn't work, and most media is operating for democrats and Fox which has a little different take on information has their own agenda and it's a big money agenda as well. They like big government that can be influenced by money. Those who control the tone of Fox do.
I like Trump best for the reasons I liked Romney best in general. They are not about pushing their ideas on the people. Romney was great in this. He governed Mass for the people of Mass. He wasn't corrupt and he wouldn't be, but he Respected their choices and implemented for them. That is important. It's what government by and for the people should do.
Trump is extremely intelligent, and while he played politics in business like you have to to make it work very well as he did, his word was good and the man has honor. We have a horrible problem with illegal immigration. It comes from having a Soros lacky in the white house. Open borders and climate change scam are Soros priorities. Soros has been taking down countries. He was deep in the Arab Spring, which was a manipulation and Egypt and Libya he had a huge hand in. He got the Muslim Brotherhood into Egypt. They also tried to take out Assad who was holding back the crazies like Mubarak did.
You're probably not hearing all the details about problems with Muslim "refugees". There have been many and it's really bad in Europe. Really bad, but police have been told to be quiet on Muslim Crime, just as in the US. Women in Vegas? Screaming Alluah Akbar! and is a muslim. The cop killer in Philly? He said it was about cops enforcing non Sharia Law, said it was for jihad, and nothing in media about it. Same in Fort Hood, the guy was radicalized and screaming for Allah while killing 14 and shooting over 40 ... Workplace violence? Really Obama? And the media goes along with it, except Fox sometimes.
I know Trump is brilliant and if he really has the best interests of the US at heart, he can do things to help the situation that few could. Romney as well, super smart guy who had a knack for getting things done.
I don't want someone pushing religious shit on people. That's a choice.
I'm not really excited about Trump, wasn't about Romney, they were just the best choices around.
Hillary is a FUCK NO. She is unbelievably corrupt, all the way back to Watergate where she was fired for gross levels of corruption by a life long democrat, and it got worse from there. Sanders is pushing something destructive to the country and seems he'd be another puppet for some bad folks, like Obama is.
The US Constitution is what really protects you and me from massive corruption. The kind that would render this country a shit hole to live in, like many others. I really want it followed, or if not use the law in the constitution to change it. Quick change to the system that's worked so well is only good for greedy abusers, and they use bait to get we the people to support them. That would be a HUGE mistake.
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Trump has had a great effect already. We are talking about a rigged system widely because of Trump. The massive powers behind open borders lunacy (ugly as hell for the average people) which dominate media, Universities and bribable officials, are being challenged. The reality of illegal alien crime the government has been covering up is being understood more. The reality & UK history (which was suppressed) of refugees being an invasionary force of incompatible almost all military aged males is being understood more. The reality of Clinton's criminal history decades past and recently, are being more understood. Donald Trump has already done the US & the world a great service. Imagine what he will expose and flush out as President? I mean assuming all the false garbage on him is not reality, and it's not. The choice between Hillary and Trump is a no brainer, if you really understand them and what's been going on.
Gary Johnson is a mess, not a better choice by any means. I like his position on weed having the insane laws against it removed, but he's for some very stupid damaging shit, like a basic subsistence payment to every person in the country regardless of what they do, which would drag production down and destroy the economy, making such payments and the current help available for people who need it go up in smoke. He's for big government enforcement of SJW priorities, which is diametrically opposed to basic principals Libertarianism. I'm Libertarian, Fuck Gary Johnson, through he would be better than Hillary the mobster, who would sell anyone out at the drop of a bag of money. She actually told the women of Libya that they would enjoy Sharia law, holy shit!
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+Andrew Wilson You're not judging the people in the tea party. You're judging a fig newton of the media, which doesn't exist. There are some religious right who do fit that discription, but they are not huge on the tea party. The tea party cause no incidents. Not even garbage clean up needed at most rallies. There was a good amount of color, edited out. There were assholes who infiltrated, magnified by the media. CNN took film of an AR-15 at a rally, edited out the black guy carrying it, lol. That's how the media shaped opinion of the tea party, because media is basic government lap doggery at this point, of the progs in government. I don't suppose you noted coverage of the occupy wall street morons with all the crime, rape, public destruction and trash left to clean up was extremely positive? That extreme contrast in coverage should cue someone of much intelligence to heavy bias in media, and it's not far from there to gauge motive. A democrat started the tea party, not an Obama democrat, a more JFK style decent sane, democrat. There were plenty of those mixed in at rallies, and it was a higher than average educated crowd. Republicans in general are statistically higher educated than Democrats as well, if you didn't understand that.
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***** That's the thing, Dave is regressive on many issues. He doesn't see certain things. He does see many things. He does seek rationality, but our minds are complex and we miss things we're not looking for. I've been very impressed with Dave, but also gained a sort of epiphany which I should have understood because of my study of behavior and it fits right in. Dave is Jewish, and he's gay. Muslim issues would stand out to him because it's kind of a thing generally they'd like to destroy his race and throw him off a roof or hang him, and people who he identifies with support them. That's where I think he gained his epiphany. It's in his face.
Will he understand that the same motivation to vote for a prospective larcenous guy like Sanders is similar motive that drove people to see Slavery as ok? Because they would gain from it? I doubt he'd see that.
We all have our things. Bones in the Nose, Sticks on the Dicks. I have fought sticks off my dicks so hard, because I've seen it in people, and group think is so destructive, but I'm always catching myself and going through a struggle to free my mind from the bondage that nature lays on it. And I know, which is why I'm agnostic. I don't buy my brain telling me what I've been searching and trying to get some answer about is real, I know that concentration develops a fixation and my brain would fill it in. Pretty sure that's what happens to religious people, how they can know so many diametrically opposed things. It's much the same with other information. He "knows" certain things which are beliefs, yet are wrong. We all do it. A hell of a lot of money and effort goes into conditioning us, in populations. Hell man, ever wonder why digital TV was priority one? Why government was all over it? Those things have so much sway over our paradigms it's great if you'd like to control masses. Who wants to control masses? What power minded folks wouldn't? It's worth huge investments, it pays off big.
I sound crazy huh? :) but the what can't be answered by a shallow why. Things that come into play are kinda complex, or more accurately foreign to how we perceive and our perceptions, our illusions of reality, much more powerful than we usually understand and intelligence doesn't help much there. Or maybe it does, but only to a certain degree. I mean Dave is intelligent. He did see through, and others who have and follow Dave, seem much smarter than average.
Don't worry, my doggy tells me I'm completely sane, by what he doesn't say, in english o_O
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I've been calling Progressives Regressive for a long time. It's simple, the US had progress which culminated in the Constitution. The Constitution kept government from being controlled by powerful people, and thus gave the little people consideration aka individual rights.
Progressive movement in the US was kicked off by the Fabian Socialist movement in England. Evolved from the people founding the LSE. There are less obvious ties to Cecil Rhodes and the bunch he was tied into that through common ties and goals and the ownership transfer of DeBeers seems pretty obvious, if not proven.
The "Progressives" who have historically had a pension for the perversion of language for propaganda purposes, oppose the US Constitution. The pretext is so they can help the less fortunate and the Constitution gets in the way. The fact is the less fortunate, have never done better in any country (talking actual life style and wealth) than in the USA. The reason being that the Constitution kept off corruption to some degree, resulting in a reward for production to anyone who harnessed it. The actual numbers are hard to argue with, though those who'd like to see the US more open to corruption, a government with power that can be bought, come up with all kinds of nice sounding arguments which work until you really get into the details.
The reason things have gone so crazy, is that the actual Progressive goals can't be seen by the masses or it would be the end of that movement. Division has been used, hate, and defamation of the opposition, rabid defamation. Reminiscent of Goebbels tactics against the Jews. And the tactics are very similar, which isn't surprising because the source was the book the Progressives gave Hitler for mass control of perception. The Book, Propaganda, written by the Progressive (a despicable advertising guy) Edward Bernays. The guy who sold cigarettes to women as a symbol of independence and power. He's Sigmund Freud's nephew.
This stuff is factual, mostly and the rest is extremely well followed circumstantial info. I'm not a "Conservative" or "Republican" I am all over the spectrum. I'm in favor of truth, and what is the best for the people. My views don't follow my wallet, except what is good for the country is generally good for conditions for wallets in general.
The bullshit that's going on isn't just USA, it's world wide. Check out the Muslim "refugees" the military aged hordes mostly of mostly males pushing into EU countries and planned for the US. They are being isolated, not integrated. Checks were not done on these people. What is the benefit to this? One group would benefit, would be Oligarchs. The benefit is in chaos, people can be pushed around in extraordinary ways in times of chaos. It causes openings for a lot of control pretexts.
What do leaders get for it? Could be reward, or blackmail. The powers behind this are extremely powerful. George Soros is in this big time. Like he is pushing the EU. Soros has heavy ties to a certain group that would be invaluable to his "genius" predictions of monetary values and trading to make billions. Who actually made him billionaire by their investments in quantum fund. The same group that owns DeBeers, Barclays, Monsanto, and runs central banks all over the world.
People need to study this, because it won't be on the media. Big money pretty much dictates to the media and has bought much if not most of governments in one way or another. I don't know this by evidence aside from enough feeling that the circumstantial has a great deal of weight for me, having studied this so long ... but it seems to be going on in entertainment as well. Who from Europe is bribing the most "reputable" of US universities with billions? Why are there huge pockets of wealth in Some European banks which is WAY out of line with the GDP of those countries ... trillions of dollars US worth?
I'm a crazy conspiracy theorist ... according to the major media and entertainment industry. Problem is, if you check this all out, it tracks.
What is the Goal here? Look up the Fabian Window and what is written on it. Heating up the world to make it closer to hearts desire. Two men heating up the earth in a forge, and hammering on it. Do you think Muslims are bringing heat? Why cover their despicable actions and their cult which dictates it in ways that are so strange? Take a wild guess?
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HA, Anthropologically based global warming. I've dug into it and that is religious level belief without basis in fact. The "science" behind it is bullshit, it's not based in sound scientific method. It's cherry picked facts separated from the much larger universe of facts which are discarded. It's a con based on the credibility of "science" which has been reverse engineered to a result that would facilitate massive levels of control. CO2 is produced by about anything life forms do, like breathing, and another gas involved as well, methane, farts n shit, lol.
People listen to the bullshit that sounds convincing that plays on our group think vulnerability ... but they don't look into the complete universe of known facts behind it, which are not really that complex. The Global warming "Science" is much like the Catholic church not explaining the bible or allowing it to be in a language the average person could understand. They didn't want people analyzing for themselves. The people pushing global warming as a means to control are much the same in that regard.
Most people have no clue about the levels they are talking about. Like many false assertions the ratios are left out of the propaganda. The variable in the output of CO2 naturally on earth dwarfs the levels people affect in output. Our output of CO2 and Methane is extremely tiny in ratio to natural output. It's like saying a fart affects wind speed in a hurricane. Does it? Yes, yes it does, but it's not significant enough to matter.
Not only that, but the cooling effect of CO2 is completely dismissed. Why would they do that? It's not like Holdren (Science Czar) doesn't understand it. More CO2 creates more fauna volume in the earth and that fauna mostly works on a respiratory effect where it takes CO2 and converts it to Oxygen and the result is cooling the air around it. That is a massive effect, and the more CO2 is in the air the more plants thrive and the over all volume increases, thus increasing the cooling effect. Why leave that huge factor out? Cause FRAUD. It's a huge control and money grab worth trillions in rip offs of just the US people alone. That's what the Chicago Climate exchange was all about. Funded by who? Joyce Foundation, a Soros org, and the actual work to fund it done by who? Barrack Obama is who. That is fact.
When you can't speak on a subject in depth but have faith in authorities or "experts" version of it ... hey, you're living in about the same dynamic that religious zealots do. Then defend that bullshit like you understand it? Like you KNOW it's fact? Hello?
I mean it used to be global cooling in the 70s, and who wrote about that? How ice would build up on the poles and topple creating tidal waves which would wipe out all life within 200 miles of all coasts? hahaha. What was the solution? Same as with warming, give loads of money and control to government.
Who wrote this crap on global cooling? Global ice age dangers? John Holdren, Obama's "Science" Czar. Imagine that?
We have to look at ourselves like we do others for intellectual defects and conflicts. You guys are sitting there speaking on something faith based as if it's fact and not even seeing the irony.
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To see Harris go off on an inaccurate caricature of Trump about "banning all Islam" which is false, not what Trump said, but a cherry picked idea without all the facts speaks loudly. He wants to stop immigration from Muslims until FBI can be confident of vetting the people, as they said now they can't. Trump's policy ideas on this are the only sane ideas out there. The notion we have to accept immigration as if it's a right isn't very bright. To accept immigration that's not good for the country isn't smart. Trump's policy is the only policy that makes sense. When you attribute policy others say Trump has which isn't his at all is pretty incompetent or dishonest.
Also the economic policy of Trump is excellent in it's empirically proven principal. If one didn't know any better and listened to people who bashed it because it would crash the corrupt gravy train, maybe that ill thought conclusion could be made, but that's not what Sam purports to be about.
There is a fact here that a lot of money is behind damaging immigration and most politicians are bought by this. This isn't just in the US, it's world wide. We've seen the horrible effects of going with this, have we not? There is massive corruption in the US government, in fact in the western world and right there for all of this is George Soros, who is heavily pushing destructive immigration in line with his insane (if you care about the people it affects) open borders philosophy he's pushing like crazy.
I have to wonder here if Sam is really honest about this. The bullshit that's coming from his mouth, the way his eyes get when he speaks of Trump, tells me this isn't rational or it's not honest. It's sort of like a Prog nut speaking about racism everywhere. It's not well founded.
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Nick Cohen, who are those people? They own the US Federal Reserve Bank and most central banks in the world. It sounds nuts until and unless you really get into it, but you can follow their moves by following Soros moves. They, well Rothschilds in particular made Soros a multi Billionaire through Quantum fund. They also explain his "miraculous" money value trading predictions as they control currency levels in most countries world wide.
1. Rothschild's of London and Berlin 2. Lazard Brothers of Paris 3. Israel Moses Seaf of Italy 4. Kuhn, Loeb & Co. of Germany and New York 5. Warburg & Company of Hamburg, Germany 6. Lehman Brothers of New York 7. Goldman, Sachs of New York 8. Rockefeller Brothers of New York
Check the huge bulge in France, UK, Germany, Belgium which exceeds GDP of those countries. Trillions, who owns it? Take a wild guess.
If you guys want explanations, follow this. I'm not about racism and most of the sites you see on this stuff is people being lazy reaching outside reason, but there is a reasonable path to follow. Most reading this will think I'm insane, or at least delusional, but I didn't get this from some source. It's from study for decades to try to make sense of things that make no sense.
The Rothschild Cartel is almost certainly working with Saudi's and other rich arabs pushing caliphate ... well, using them. Using them like they did the Bolsheviks and probably the Brown shits, as they funded Hitler. I mean the Bushes even helped Hitler, it wasn't a big deal at the time.
I don't know all the ins and outs, but I've learned enough that blank spots are supported by other things going on and demonstrated MO.
You asked :) I've been called a nut bar by many people, but no one who really did intensive research with open eyes. People who just dismiss what is way out of line with their paradigms.
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dschiff0000 You stupidly missed the point. These are the entities which own central banks. Who have family history in that cartel. Who exert massive influence in the world. I had no focus on Race. You focus on it, does it blind you to naming certain individuals? Why would I talk about Jewish people in other areas? Race is not my focus, but it seems it is yours ... Idiot Much?
You pull anti semitic out of your ass, I didn't mention race. I don't care about race and it doesn't matter, naming the particular people matters. There is also Soros who acts as an operative in the open, who's Jewish Blood, but HE is anti Semitic. Nazi actually, historical fact. The people mentioned, that group, are also no friend to Jewish people.
Jewish people made Israel worth having, it was shit, as documented by Mark Twain. No one wanted it until they improved it. Jewish culture is extremely successful and does produce much good. Pretty much shines, happy? Way to be a reactionary jack ass and muddle a subject with your fucking retarded hang ups you can't see past.
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dschiff0000 Talk about confirmation bias and unfounded conspiracy manufacturing, that's you idiot. You're arguing with yourself.
I wasn't talking about philanthropy, and generally I don't think much of most philanthropists, which has nothing to do with religion or race. I tend to like Jews in general. I was talking about who came up in line with what Cohen spoke of.
The Rothschild cartel come up because of their involvement in moving and shaking world affairs and I'm not sure how many of them are Jewish blood. I know there are a lot of Jew hating assholes harping on this and talking shit about Jews as a race. That's never been me. I've always looked upon such generalized bigotry with disgust. I also look at your mindless flailing stupidity where you see one or a few Jewish people mentioned in a negative light and stupidly assume bigotry against a whole race ... you're a fucking idiot too.
What's derpy about believing there are conspiracies? Like the world right now is clean of conspiracies? lol ... it would be the first fucking time in world history. You're sucking in what media feeds you like an idiot sponge. What do you think media feeds you? What the every day average guy wants to see? Or what people with the wealth and subsequent influence want in media? Who do you think has most influences in governments?
If you hold such a stupid reactionary line you'll have your head up your ass your whole life.
I'll fight with anyone who starts talking about all Jews this or that as I would if they said it of anyone. Why? Not because I am biased for or against a race, but I am biased for truth and against bullshit.
I've read that Soros, and Rothchilds and maybe more of these guys aren't actually original Jewish Blood. A group (or nation sort of) of people converted. If that's true they wouldn't even be of Jewish blood.
I didn't follow up because who gives a fuck? I really don't care about race. I don't care what color people are or anything about "race" which is a stupid label for minor variations in the human race. I care about what people do, and that's individual. When I see bigotry I see a neurosis, a conceptual conditioned mental problem. I'm also talking about you here, because you're the image in negative, just as irrational.
If you're going to defend bad actors because of race, that's just as fucking stupid as people who condemn a whole group because of race, if maybe not as generally destructive. You're a reactionary sycophantic moron. If you're Jewish, you are playing right into the stereo type. Adding fuel to the bullshit I hate, and I would assume you must hate. Unless you're a hater trying to make Jews look bad by acting such a reactionary idiot. You'd defend a group that funded Hitler, because of some of their race? How fucking mental, twisted, and destructive is that?
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Check out Partisangirl on twitter and or SyrianGirlPartisan on YouTube for what's really going on in Aleppo, and Syria in general. The US is the bad guys working with terrorists. Much like we have done all over the area, trying to take down every Muslim country that protects Minorities in the middle east. It's also on Soros orders, which was discovered when his emails were hacked. Egypt, Libya, Syria, Jordan, Angola, other countries. The US working with Saudi, Qatar and others are the bad guys working to create a Caliphate in Africa/ME Muslim areas. Russia is at least more Good guy than we are right now. Syria's Assad is a hero. Taking all this shit for protecting minorities in Syria. The US has real problems, as do the EU countries. They all need a good cleaning out & uprooting of a lot of evil scum bags influencing the world in very bad ways, for the people of the world.
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Munkydelarocha Esquire People selling the weapons. There could be a reward also for turning in a felon trying to buy a weapon. A penalty for not doing a check when selling a weapon and a felony for knowing selling to a felon or non citizen or across state lines.
We like to think of government as perfect, but far from it. Government is actually less trust worthy than the people as a whole.
You're also never going to stop guns. They are too easy to build. Terrorists got them in France with extreme gun laws, that we've seen stopped people from defending themselves.
Guns are an over all positive if you understand there will be bad people willing to hurt other people. Perps have advantage of planning. Self defense has to be on their schedule. Guns make hurting people dangerous. Guns favor the weak, women, people who don't have a gang of other people with them like criminals often do, because they can plan.
As gun ownership has gone up in the US, crime has gone down. Places that allow concealed carry after not having allowed it, crime went down.
Average deaths in shooting rampages police stop, 14.3. When stopped by a citizen with a gun, 2.3.
The stats the obama administration puts out are not given in an objective way, and are often very deceptive purposely. The CDC numbers shows there isn't a significant gun problem. The stuff we see in media are a result of bombardment not a reflection of real life. Media is selective about what it shows, looking to shape opinion, not so much to objectively inform. What comes through the tube isn't reality. They have favored groups they don't want seen in a negative light, others they do. Show buiz mirrors this, and it's because it's nearly all progressive. They do this purposely. Shapiro did an investigative report and a book. People who control content in entertainment use it as a sort of media, or should I correctly say, propaganda. Celebs who propagandize for the progressive cause often get great job opportunity. Kind of a Goebbels type media / propaganda situation. Very effective because people don't really filter entertainment in their minds, it just makes an impression.
Guns in the hands of good people make society safer. They make criminality more risky. Government tends to want control above our safety. Government tends to pull some dishonest shit to gain more power and often gets out of control. I mean fast and furious to plant guns in Mexican drug lords hands and make it seem like it's a problem with the US gun market? Drug lords don't need US guns. They can get them cheaper and full auto, less hassle. Police can't help us in time, people all around armed can. A gun on us can help.
Do problems happen from people being armed that wouldn't happen if they were not? Yes, but unless you just cherry pick the negatives and ignore the positives it's conclusive that over all gun ownership by citizens is a big positive and a small negative.
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+Neil Wilson LOL! Keynesian economics is a con. Bernie's economic plans are a joke, but they're not funny. Explanation of his plans is like watching a shell game where you lose money to fraud every time.
Government like the monetary system can and should facilitate trade, but they don't create value ever except as a lubricant for value to be traded. It's very simple.
Value / Wealth is produced by production activity or it's found wealth in natural resources. Economic activity beyond that is extraneous consumption. The wealth that's produced buying services. The core is the production & that's the well from whence wealth is produced. PERIOD.
For a government to spend, they have to take. There are things which are vital to the running of a country which they should do. Pretty much laid out specifically in the Constitution. There is a reason for restriction beyond that, which is corruption, graft.
Human nature is to take what they can, so government if given the chance will become horribly corrupt. We are there, it's destructive.
The more centralized government becomes the easier it is to get away with corruption. This is why scum bags are pushing the EU and NAU, to facilitate the buying of central power which makes massive corruption so much easier.
Government can't be trusted to run charity. The natural inclination is to use resources to benefit the individuals with power, and that's exactly what happens. Black communities are a prime example and have suffered great societal degradation as a result of this "help". 500% rise in murder rate & single motherhood rate, since Black people went majority democrat for the "help". The "help" was never about help, it was about political power & it's done great harm.
What Bernie proposes would be a boon for a very short time, for parasites. It would destroy the production incentive of the country. This is empirically proven throughout history all over the world.
Progs pushing the con point to Norway & Sweden and a few other places. Sweden as compared to similar Swiss is failing miserably as a result of socialist economics. Things are getting worse, people are getting stupid and lazy ... and in a self destructive move mass Muslim immigration has destroyed the society. Why was it allowed? Corrupt politicians paid off by Soros and friends for their open borders agenda which is to destroy strong society increasing public dependency on government, which can be bought and control be had.
Norway has a strong oil economy, Sweden has some ... both have great natural resources they draw from. Norway more. Socialism works when there is great wealth to be found laying around. When money is laying around to pick up, anyone can do well without working, you know, if the money is of value, as are natural resources.
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youngbuck189 This is excessive, and probably not welcome, BUT fuck it ... Your view that a government influenced by "Corporations" is right wing ... what is government? Actually in full effect government is that which controls law and policy. In that case government is corporations, because they've bought it. Also what is the difference between corporations and large special interests that gain power? Like Unions which assert like power in government the same way. BUYING IT.
Since when has left wing been uninfluenced by business and special interests (which as far as we are concerned amount to the same effect)?
I'm going to give you a key, not in a cool Cheech and Chong in the institution type way, but a truth, a building block of a solid foundation.
That key is that people can usually be bought. People who like to buy people who can make them money or power, influence elections through their power to get their people in. So, if you have a genuine person who can't be corrupted, they'll be pushed out of the way. Probably defamed in media and entertainment situations, that the wealthy types pretty much control or at least exert significant influence on, for the same reasons.
The left wing vs right wing thing is Bullshit. Why do we care about labels when what affects us is the effect? The dynamic? Labels delineating situations which amount to the same effect, are useful to the powerful who gain power. By dividing US.
How do we keep those powerful people / groups from buying our government? From bribing our leaders into forsaking our interests for their own? Which are served by those who buy them?
Limited power in government as far as discretion. General, simple laws applying equally to all.
If we give government the power to act unevenly, it's the little guy who loses. Every fucking time.
There is another dynamic at play. The people vs the large interests. What happens here, and the large interests ultimately win again is policy based Judo to gain support. Trick the masses by bribing key groups. Get them to give government that discretion to "do their will" and steal from others who are not as politically powerful in terms of votes. Greed is by far the best basis for a con, and that's what is being played.
Do you ever notice Socialist Billionaires and think it odd? Soros? Buffet? The assholes who end up running the world bank and IMF? like that rapist socialist billionaire world bank president who raped a woman in New York and got off? The powerful are running the game, the masses are the mark. Those who fall for it, which is many because greed is powerful, the dupes and tools.
Do you think it might be those types giving billions to Ivy League endowments? Maybe? Pretty much a given since so much comes from Europe and no one else can afford it. OH, let me cue you in. These politics are not isolated to the US. US politics are world wide.
Now with ground laid, the Key. Giving government discretionary power is giving the wealthy and powerful the means to use you like a farm animal, at gun point pretty much.
Progress has been framed to be about "change" which is framed to be a constant positive. This centered around breaching the US Constitution, which is our protection from massive government corruption. It hasn't worked perfectly, but it's been the best solution in civilized history if you can lay down preconception and look at the raw results.
We are fed a steady diet of bullshit from any sources of information, learning, credible sounding certification that can be bought. The world of civilized mankind hasn't ever been much different. Religion is a big player in this. So has any respected institution.
Most of what you've been taught, and think you know, is bullshit. Your axioms a facade.
I sound crazy, I know :) go through point by point and think about considering solid verified facts (not what people tell you, but solid factual information) it and see if I'm crazy.
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sorsocksfake I think it's important to understand the origins and philosophy of Progressivism. It's a branch from the LSE group, (or LSE is an extension of) the Fabian Society. Socialist reformers with a incrementalist philosophy. George Bernard Shaw was instrumental in recruiting in the US. His words on the Fabian Window are instructive as to their philosophy of method, as are some of their axioms. Books that well describe their goals and tactics are the book Propaganda by Edward Bernays. Also Eugenics, and I don't have the author off the top of my head.
Part of the tactics they go by is mislabeling via language, so they called themselves Progressive and later liberal, which are contradictory to the aims. A huge aim of Progressivism is to get around the US Constitution.
Their symbol, the Fabians, is a wolf in sheep's clothing. A moto is "let your mouth deny what your hands are busy doing" The Window depicts men heating the earth and beating it into shape, and the caption is words to the effect of heating the world to shape it closer to the hearts desire.
Their primary method for change is propaganda and incremental change so people don't pay too much attention to the transformation.
They are still very connected to European groups. Cecil Rhodes scholarship was created with the goal of bringing the Brightest from the US and encouraging them to move the US back in line with Europeans.
Many US politicians have been educated in the LSE, London School of Economics. JFK, Soros, many others and a good % of powerful UK politicians are Fabians, who attended the LSE.
That's a small bit, but it's getting huge in type so I guess that better be it.
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sorsocksfake Yeah, an organization devoted to making change through propaganda and social manipulation to sneak up on society by moving slowly (slow to boil the frog) is hard to describe without a conspiratorial tone because it is by definition conspiracy :)
I understand this is new, not something discussed much. Certainly not taught in Colleges. I am somewhat baffled by people's propensity to feel satisfied their current well of information is all that is important. Not really curious as to motives which are a mystery. There is always a reason, always a motive. What is lacking is understanding. If we get more of that, many pieces fall into place.
Things like Socialism are only ideology to those who feel that is a way to more. It's a means to gain support for some powerful people, billionaires who are not Socialist and have no plan to share :) it's basically bait to lure support from masses because people want to believe it when someone tells them they can get something for nothing. That they deserve it. Facts of predictable human behavior (especially in masses) are used for manipulation. Not a big trick. Especially if you can gain control over policy and resources.
I mean religion has much the same approach, the reward being heaven. The suckers altering their behavior and doing what is needed of them in return for that promise.
I'm agnostic, so I don't claim to know what is true out there. One thing I do know is many people have been played. If there are some getting the real, it's a small %, but so many believe in opposing views of it.
The con games, conspiracies are pretty much a constant and a few games going on simultaneously throughout history and still today.
I didn't mean the answer to be this long. It's a bit involved I guess. I do see the discussions going on without an attempt to get to the core of why, how, and who as rather pointless. I do see the history as very instructive, if the same goals are being sought.
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Pandaa Bro Thanks for bringing me up to date on the latest trend of the game of definition manipulation :)
Syntax is very important and affects our grasp of ideas. Propagandists of the most modern ilk who follow Sigmund's nephew ... who is that? (It's early) like to blur syntax, so clear delineation of ideas becomes impossible. Oh yes, Edward Bernays, a progressive hero (vile add man) who actually wrote the book "Propaganda" which was requested by and given to Hitler by the Progressives who supported him at the time. Also another book asked and received, Eugenics, which kind of details their philosophy on dealing with the masses. Supporting the Nazi movement was pretty main stream at the time, later less popular so their glowing support of Hitler, was muted. The Bush family did it too, so.
Self serving definitions kind of get tossed around and changed time to time. I tend to test these because so often those who change the meaning do so to cover a weakness in logic. Kind of like those with a main goal to get around the US constitution (which was huge and extremely successful progress) labeled themselves progressive and huge intrusive government with invasive controlling laws, liberal. This while working to destroy a real progress and return to a more corruptible state in which the powerful could easily use the masses.
Theist means practicing a belief in God. Polytheist means of more than one. The idea of knowing for sure really doesn't enter into it, because no one does, except a few who claimed to see him or some manifestation.
Agnostic means acknowledging you don't know, it's the traditional meaning whether it be on the subject of Supreme beings or whatever.
Atheist; in language as it has been used, analysis of the components; A.the.ist denotes no god, the ist of course is the person practicing or whatever, no god. Atheism is a protestation against Theists. While that creates some ire among Atheists often, which leads to changing definitions, it's obviously true and reason dictates that is exactly what it is. Without Theism there would be no Atheism, because the subject would never come up. That truth being pushed in debates seems to have inspired a change in definitions. One can't prove a negative on such a subject because all of the surrounding realities can't be nailed down, so Atheism is basically a belief based on no factual basis. The flip side of Theism, deliberately as it is a protest of it. Less logical than Theism by the factor of no historical claims (witness, false or otherwise) to support it. Somewhat legitimate claims to knowledge that parts of the Bible are scientifically flawed have some merit, but claiming that would mean the protestation of God was also based on the Bible alone, and not a wider belief in no God. You can also claim that all of the religious books are flawed scientifically I guess, but that would only encompass what has been written on the subject, and not the whole scope of the question.
I don't see any way to legitimately use the word Atheist without it denoting a lack of logical basis, but a protest. Changing syntax in a self serving way seems pretty vile to me. Vandalism of clear communication which is vital to progressing in the understanding of ideas, the foundation to advanced understanding / learning.
Relabeling the philosophy would make sense, as long as the realities of it are better described. Anti Theism Agnostic is as close as I can come to a clearly defined syntax of a reasonable philosophy. Or invent a word, but to pervert the meaning of existing words is destructive for reasons I previously laid out. I object strongly to that on what I see as sound, logically based, moral grounds.
Colleges have become more institutions of propaganda than higher learning in many facets. Of course it's hard to pervert math, lol, but they've done a hell of a job perverting economics, which defy's empirical information and the math which uses this as a factor and supplants a sort of religious level component.
But ... I digress, in laying another ground for demonstrating the propagandist mentality pervasive in these institutions of higher propagandization on a foundation of a dynamic with the properties of religion rather than pure scientific method. Drunken on ill gotten "public funds" (stolen tax payer contributions) corrupted by the strings attached, much like what has been labeled the institution of "Science" Which has also become more pushed as religion to the masses.
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sorsocksfake If no one brought up God there would be no point to Atheism. It's not a stand alone philosophy. No one says they are A(something that's never come up)istic.
If you reject religion on factual basis, great. You have something to object to. You see religion. Important point: Religion is not God. It's organized belief in a God or whatever.
Important point of logic here, you can't disbelieve in something you've never heard of. It's a vacuum like situation. Ain't nothin there to talk about, or think about.
This stuff is very basic. I'm not getting on you, lol, BUT you (or someone you've learned from) seem to have altered the factual foundation of the argument to give yourself (or the someone who came up with this) something to stand on.
Atheism is a belief, not the absence. It opposes a belief, and does so in a way that requires faith, or bullshit to back the protest and make it seem substantive, or something lol.
Faith it is, or disingenuous rhetoric, because you can't prove a negative. You can't prove a supreme being or beings don't exist. I could buy the name Antireligionist. The whole Atheist thing is more nonsensical, than religion.
You are intelligent and I do enjoy reading your reasoning :) though I must shoot strait on stuff like this. Seems important.
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Magnus Fischer according to indexes if you isolated the minimum wage it has indeed plummeted. When you add in social programs those receiving minimum wags qualify for, the money you get at that level has risen quite dramatically (value for value) it seems.
Food and fuel costs have blown up because of government interference. Though farm subsidies have been in place for some time and manipulation to keep them down until recently the net effect of the system of laws and regs, has blown the cost up.
The cost explosion has been a product of government knowingly pushing up prices, unless you buy the line that they're just idiots over what seems the obvious reality of their manipulation.
Medical has gone the same way. The costs driven up by federal government meddling, and what seems quite obviously to be corruption in medical and insurance industries.
Government now uses these increases to gain public support for control which equals power and the means to pay off donors and bribe the public with the money they've conned from the public.
Simple principal. When you give government power to control things to such an extent, you've given the wealthy the power because they will buy it.
People, the "little people" who see big government as their friend, have been victim to an extremely ugly and corrupt con.
It's much better to not have a minimum wage. It's better if corporations don't have the ability to manipulate government into allowing them to screw workers and disallow organizing, which was the problem in the early 1900s. Now we have Unions paying off government, stealing large chunks of ownership rights in companies basically. It's a different problem, but it ends up about the same ultimately. Unions won't really look out for workers if there is a quicker reward for the owners of the Union. We've seen this, killing corps and fucking workers over.
That's why general laws evenly applied without government having choices as to who wins or loses is by far the best for the little guy in the long run. Powerful government is great and even productive, but only if they are harnessed to the good of the people, but shielded from the greed (which is a weakness which will be exploited, WILL BE).
Economics is pretty simple. Complicated economics are a lie, a series of deceptions and set up on a pseudo technical smoke screen. The tactic is what the Catholics used when they wouldn't allow common people to understand the language of the bible.
Economic power comes through production. Also resources, but that's another area that's simple as hell on it's face. What increases production increases aggregate wealth. That is a good thing, even if some luck out or are extremely smart or work their asses off or some combination of the above, and do much better than others. The US has been very wealthy, and it's poorest have had exceptional standards of living compared to the rest of the world. Basically due to the Constitution keeping corruption down. Not perfectly of course, but better than anything else ever tried on such a huge scale.
Government doesn't produce wealth. Government when it's doing a good job facilitates trade and keeps the people safe from harm and exploitation. Real exploitation, not the kind where they agree to work for a wage, but others who are more valuable to the situation make more. Forcing minimum wages and bribing the workers to gain power by political shits, is exploitation of those they commit theft upon to gain the resources to bribe.
People keeping as much as possible of the product of their work is what makes production kick.
Taxes are good for the system, because government done right is valuable. Taxing to provide this in the most efficient way possible is extremely healthy and everyone should want to participate and reap the rewards.
Minimum wage violates this, corrupts it. It may seem like a good idea, but it's a destructive one to the health of the over all system.
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Confirmation bias usually sides with the "things will be all right" heads in the sand types. That's the human default setting it seems.
Not that it doesn't fit with people looking for something to happen, of course it does.
I think it's better to go with what we see going on than some kind of axiom. I get what you're saying ... Hitler will be nice to us if we're nice to him kind of thing. It will be ok ;) Or people just see what they want to see, without really looking into what they see or checking out what they've checked out. Lazy is a powerful thing.
What I see I don't like. It's not what I want to see. Things going on are not random, and it's pretty obviously manipulation going on. Moves go contrary to stated goals, with a continuity to goals which are not stated.
Convergence of ideas and actions don't really make sense in what's happening world wide with Soros and governments falling into line. Much inconsistency with (again) stated goals and actions.
I don't necessarily consider what is falling in line direct collusion, many people go with motivations like money and not being trashed in media and by officials or important social forces. The motivations behind those things do seem manipulated so the forces themselves do. Global Warming ... go along, get rewarded. There is absolutely a huge profit motive behind this for the manipulators and the manipulated get rewarded with what amounts to money one way or another.
Do me a favor, in stead of applying an axiom to the situations, really look into the moves. Look into Soros involvement in Libya and Egypt. Look at Obama's reaction to events in Egypt, other countries in the "arab spring" and test that against his reaction to Iran's uprising and how he dealt with that.
Check out the manipulation that created skyrocketing food prices and how that played into "the arab spring".
We have probability to look to, and when that is consistently defied by actions, consistent happenings, something is most likely going on beyond the natural proclivities. thus influences of human kind.
Detecting what you can't see uses these principals. MO leaves a trail as anomalous to the normal flow of things as foot prints disturbing the ground. If you start to understand the goals and moves follow consistently with those goals, you can see what's going on with some degree of high probability.
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sorsocksfake That interpretation had to do with the analysis of your statement that the thought of a possible conspiracy was a product not of searching information on actions, motives and such thought, but of confirmation bias.
It was sort of the same train of thought. While Churchill dug into the information and said WHOA wait a minute, this guy is dangerous, lets stop him ... the majority sharing the Chamberlain take on this, which was based on axioms and not real consideration of facts jumped all over Churchill without giving what he was saying, his work on this, much thought.
Actually that's what most people are doing now, what they usually do. Being mentally lazy and not really considering information. Confirmation bias stuck on the normal, that things will be ok, nothing bad could really happen, the notion is just crazy!
Is that not what you're doing? Or have you taken a lot of time to dig in? If you haven't an Agnostic approach would be quite wise. The poo pooing of such things is kind of knee jerk and mental laziness. Nothing risked by that, it's accepted by most people, who tend to be mentally lazy in the face of such things.
Do you know who owns the Federal Reserve Bank? The people? Did you know it was privately owned on a 20 year charter that lately has been pretty much automatically renewed. I know, talking about them is conspiracy gold, so we really shouldn't think about it or we're just conspiracy nuts. But how is it so secret? What else do these people own? Do you know their connection to George Soros? Do you follow Soros' activities? Deep into Egypt, Libya, the Arab Spring. The collapse of a few countries which he actually brags about. Do you know Obama's connection to George Soros? Wonder why Obama would attack the leaders keeping the crazies off other people? But when there is an uprising in Iran with the people angry about Iran cheating the elections, taking great risk of life to do it ... Obama did nothing. He could have helped them. Should have as Iran is a huge sponsor of terrorism and world wide shit.
If you don't care to follow things like that. Try to piece the puzzle together, it's ok. BUT if you don't and think just poo pooing it is an intelligent position, remember Hitler, Chamberlain, the idiot masses, and Churchill, who did see it coming and could have done a lot of save millions of lives.
I respect your intellect ... but remember, your known world isn't the whole world. To dismiss what is outside your area of understanding as unimportant is to stunt yourself. Too poo poo without understanding is, I don't know, foolish? Though I don't see what damage it does, except for myself, I don't want to be a herding creature. I want to know. I'm curious and I do want to see what's coming.
Chamberlain, and most of Europe at the time, were buffoons. Dangerous buffoons. Grossly negligent colossal fuck ups. Not equating that to you, because such things are not your responsibility, I hope. Not a shot :) unless they are, then ... fuck.
I do waste a lot of time, but I do pick up a few jewels.
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People society see's as kooks are the ones media and other entities largely influenced by the most powerful, wants them to see as kooks. People in Germany & even most of Europe who thought Hitler was dangerous and should be stopped before he became more dangerous, they were kooks. The fact is vaccines are dangerous, just not as dangerous as no vaccines, probably. The NSA compound was obviously for spying on US citizens, but it took an insider outing their ass before it was known, and Obama sat there and lied to our faces, as usual, about it. When you say kook, think about where you got the paradigms that would define them as kooks. They may be more informed ... or they may be kooks, who knows until you do.
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You're Agnostic, not Atheist. The new definitions don't follow logic, they follow the Progressive line of obfuscation. Atheist always meant someone standing against Theism, saying they were wrong, that there was no God. Again, without Theism, there would be no Atheism, it's pretty simple. The Prog trend in Universities has been obfuscating this, trying to align Atheism with Science. They changed after the problematic situation of Atheist Faith without evidence was pointed out. I don't know why the label Atheist is so important, probably something to do with wanting to crush Christianity because Progressives come from a line of Socialism, Fabian Socialism, where they really want the State to replace a God. Christianity the focus because of it's individual rights centric principals which collide with the Socialist ideal societal paradigm. Those socialists are sophist and about obfuscation, not teaching logic and good foundation. I'm not going to convert to their reworked language. I oppose it, and them.
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immoral means "not moral" lol. It's action, not so much philosophical or a stand. Amoral roughly the same, a lack of morals. You're not wrong in this example, but it's not universal. A as prefix can mean against.
A-Theist basically means, because there could be no A-Theist without first being Theist, against, because of how it came to be used. Theism has been the default. Most people have objection to that fact, but people have always assumed a higher power. To say there wasn't a higher power was revolutionary. That's what Atheism was, a revolutionary stand against the normal, which was Theism.
What gives me heartburn is the obfuscation of Agnostic Atheist and the other recently created designations which dance around syntax and create a lack of clarity. If you don't believe in God, that means you believe there is no God. No one has proof either way so the whole believing in having proof component is nonsensical.
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The economy isn't that difficult to understand. People are very predictable in groups, that's why actuarial tables are so right on usually. The way it is taught it's difficult. The way it's taught attempts to give government credit for wealth creation. It's propaganda. (there is a conspiracy theory for ya, pretty well founded though) SIMPLY, Wealth is a product of production and stuff you can just pick up or suck up or dig for. Government facilitates trade and protects the citizens as well as keeping crooks from running amok (HOW IRONIC! HAHAHAHA O_O) The Fed runs the monetary system which facilitates trade, and it's great. The fed is also privately owned and the owners are powerful people, and that's factual. Very powerful and wealthy people. Warburg designed the current fed operations and his family is one of the owners of the Federal Reserve Bank. The list of owners is as follows; (the major owners anyway as of some years ago. It's not easy to find information.) 1. Rothschild's of London and Berlin 2. Lazard Brothers of Paris 3. Israel Moses Seaf of Italy 4. Kuhn, Loeb & Co. of Germany and New York 5. Warburg & Company of Hamburg, Germany 6. Lehman Brothers of New York 7. Goldman, Sachs of New York 8. Rockefeller Brothers of New York.
That the Rothschild family and the cartel they've put together are extremely wealthy and powerful? That's just history that's not really reported or repeated much. They've had hands in politics for a very long time, world wide. They've gotten their loyal people into positions in government and even seats of royalty. There is also solid connection by association and a very profitable one for Soros, to Soros, through Quantum fund.
The Rothschild Cartel are also connected to Cecil Rhodes of DeBeers which they financed and now own. Rhodes helped the Fabian society get going and the London school of economics. The Fabian society, socialists with a plan to change societal perspective and norms using gradual change. Members of the Fabian Society were instrumental in starting the Progressive movement in the USA.
There is more, but that's a good skeleton. There is a lot of bullshit floating around about it. A LOT OF BULLSHIT, but there is a lot of reality involved as well.
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No Way [+tblbaby "I"m agnostic and no fan of Planned Parenthood. I don't like much of what they do and see it as vile"
Well, one of two things here. Either you've fallen for right-wing Faux News propaganda, or you're the vile one.]
Wow! O_O, lol, what a perfect demonstration of faith based thinking (group think on your part) displacing critical thinking.
I'm pro choice, up to the point a baby could live outside the womb. I see the freedom of ownership of ones body as vital in principal. Killing a baby would be a personal choice not to provide life support in ones own body. After the baby could live outside the womb with some care, I see it as clearly murder. Location doesn't reasonably establish status of life, of a sentient being.
PP also gets money from government and gives money in donations to bribe officials. This is fact, whether you hear it on your favored sources of propaganda or not lol.
The absolutism involved in labeling Fox news valueless as an information source isn't rational either. They provide information you can't get on the networks or progressive sources which more and more filter information as well as put a slant on information which is disinformational. Even entertainment is involved here in a type of Goebbels style propaganda in entertainment system. They come out often with a cohesive push on a certain theme, which happens to be the same theme news programs are pushing. To take the information given by any of those in exclusion to other varied sources is extreme idiocy. Blind faith if you will ;)
I like to understand what's going on, so I check out varied sources and investigate myself using material facts involved to see if reports jive with them.
I understand why I must seem vile to you. Same principal as why Muslims see gay people as vile enough to warrant stoning, tossing off roofs, burning, etcetera.
Planned Parenthood which was created by a racist genocidal nutbar to help eliminate black people from the population, has never been a decent organization. Always corrupt. Now they sell baby parts which is illegal. Most reasonable informed people wouldn't be a big fan, BUT they are a big focus of progressives. A large block in the construction of the institution. Eugenics, vile as it is, is a foundational block of progressivism as it was Nazism. Nazi's actually got the book, along with the book Propaganda, from Progressives who were huge fans. Nazi's were progressing far beyond what they could get away with in the US.
Is it reasonable to consider planned parenthood vile? Without the influence of religion or what hard line Progs consider the devil's messenger, FOX NEWS! O_O (because it distributes information they'd like to see shut up forever). Yes, it's very reasonable to see Planned Parenthood as vile on many levels, and I do.
Fox News has better quality and diversity of news than any of the Networks judged at an unbiased level. It's far from perfect or even good, and it does have it's biases though they are much less complete than the networks and CNN. I doubt, judging by your statement that you're even educated personally about what is on Fox, beyond what you hear in propaganda about Fox.
I check out everything from Brietbart to Mother Jones, a Soros influenced publication as is CNN in fact influenced by Media Matters and the networks have that smell as well. I check out Media Matters, it's a great source to see the tone and paradigms the uber wealthy super corrupting forces in the world are trying to push on the mushrooms.
I go beyond what's said, to why was it said? What was the purpose of certain propaganda themes? What are they working to accomplish?
I have to admit to baiting you with topics and information I knew would be offensive to you, so see how you'd react :) I didn't expect such a hard line group thinking product from you, but kind of expected portions of it. I deliberately attacked the Holy Cow Planned Parenthood. Sources of contributions to the cause (corrupt politicians) is sacred to the Prog cult ;).
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John Thursday Oh yeah, the great depression was a ball O_O whadaupp? FDR was an unmitigated disaster. His oppressive policies stretched out the great depression. At least he didn't burden the country with massive influx of the worst of other countries which hate us. He went overboard the other way. Kicked people out of the US and Japanese concentration camps. People who had fled Japan generations before, to get away from the crazy cultish shit going on in Japan at the time.
Social Democracy? lol Bernie's talking about THEFT and redistribution to buy support. That doesn't inspire production from any part of the spectrum, plus it's THEFT. That kind of thing bites an economy in the ass. Sure there's Norway with all the oil and it's working ok there because they're pumping oil from the ground, lol. Sweden which has a good bit of oil and resources, but Socialism is dragging them down. Used to be about even with the Swiss, took the low road, and Sweden is going down, on the way to becoming a shit hole.
Democracy isn't a great thing. It's a nightmare for minority rights, not just talking color and the superficial differences that shouldn't matter, but minority interests get run over, and everyone is a minority in something. Republic with laws set up to protect individuals has worked great in the US. Actually the best system as far as results, in world history, despite the crap they teach in College lately.
Of course we agree on corruption :) but you miss where it comes from. Central government being the farthest from the people and controlling the whole country is the worst potential for corruption. Stealing money from those who don't support you to buy support is extreme corruption and isn't good for a country. Puts the wrong incentives in place and leads to bad decisions and the country being damaged. We all live here. The damage will hurt all of us in time.
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John Thursday Capitalism is the system that rewards production. Production is highest when there is incentive, as in you keep most of the reward for the work done and gain gained. If you look at a system with a successful production economy, it's a capitalist system.
Borrowing money to fake it doesn't count as a good system, you have to pay it back and you become Greece or so. They were riding high, now they're not.
Compare Sweden to Switzerland. They had been very comparable, then Sweden took the dirt road down, implemented huge social programs and high taxation, and now they're not even close. Sweden is also undergoing societal decay, and that's even before all the refugees got there and started destroying and parasiting off what they had. They also have a good amount of oil, and other mining. Much more than Switzerland, but still that boost and they're still behind.
You can look up GDP by country and GDP by ranking. Every country on the top with social programs has oil or heavy into banking services.
Here you can compare countries. http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Sweden/Switzerland/Economy
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There is and has always been climate change. Do I accept Gullible Warming? Anthropological GW / CC as my personal savior FUCK NO, lol, it's not scientifically researched, it's a scam.
Here is something I wrote on it a few days ago:
The "settled science" conclusions on gullible warming were not arrived at using sound scientific method. The survey they quote is a joke, a bad manipulated survey. There is motive in the trillions for declaring the product of about any activity, including breathing or pooping (methane) a pollutant. Another motive is extreme regulatory controls which translates into trillions for those who control government, aka bribe, participate through "donation" and pushing causes, like GE which owned NBC and got billions in contracts for wind farms and tax credits.
Psudo scientific scams like the hokey stick graph were discovered to be a scam. Emails were released between the scammers exposing the scam. The scammers were still rewarded in the millions by governments and media didn't out it, why is that? (this is just one example, there are many manipulations using government power for rewards and penalty depending on who does the line and shills for the "cause" and who doesn't recently including suggestion of incarceration for scientific decent) I'm sure you don't understand it went down like that, but it did.
You didn't see that in the media. We don't really have a legitimate media any more. We have propaganda interests which have successfully been almost completely corrupted by wealthy interests who've also bought important components, of most governments.
I give you the why first. Though I know it will seem like alternate reality to you probably. The motive for the Global Warming Scam is important because I'm sure your paradigms on this is based on trust of scientists, government, media, even show buiz as that is also being used as a propaganda machine. Very effective because we don't have our guards up with entertainment. Goebbels understood this, which was probably much from receiving and using the book "Propaganda" from the Progressive Movement in the US. They were huge backers of the Nazi's. They also were requested Eugenics, Hitler actually asked and they gave. Propaganda contains science of how to manipulate masses. Was written by Freud's Nephew Edward Bernays. An influential progressive and super successful add man.
PART 2 THE WHAT
The problem with the science doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand. We are told it's too technical and we can't understand it, but that's a lie. Science itself is dependent on good method. Understanding the facts is a matter of learning some not so difficult physics and properties, and reactions. The science in the anthropological global warming assertion (I'd call it a theory, but it doesn't rise to that level) doesn't even need average intelligence to decipher as far as I can tell. I'm well above average so sometimes it's difficult for me to relate to the perspective, but it seems to be based on very simple principal.
Global Warming is based on the phenomenon that CO2 will cause heat to be blocked from bouncing back out of the atmosphere thus heating up the gasses and retaining heat on the surface. That's true, it's a true and proven property. Other gases like methane do much the same. In fact many gasses in our air do the same. Funny, only the gasses that can be profitable (in terms of power which can be translated into wealth) are targeted. THAT is the first red flag.
The cooling effect of CO2 is ignored. CO2 levels increased increase flora levels which act to cool the air through massive amounts of respiration. You can feel this effect if you go from a city to a forested or agricultural area. Plants take in CO2, sunlight, and water and convert it into energy. In the process a cooling effect occurs. This is also a proven fact, but it is IGNORED in the "Science" so to speak.
There is also a Huge problem for the "Science" that the levels humans are responsible for in CO2 and Methane are minuscule. The earth's natural emission of CO2 is huge compared to what humans put out. We like to think we are significant, but in ratio we are really not. Humans put out less than .001 of the calculated VARIABLE in earths output of CO2. It's like saying we change wind speed of a Hurricane by farting one way or the other. That is technically true, we do, but it's not significant.
Human derived output of Methane gas is much the same. Termites output alone in Methane gas dwarfs all human effected output, and they are a small part of earths total output. BUTT! it's something that can be used to control industry, aka bank influence, power which translates to wealth.
The "Science" was obviously created by reverse engineering to something that could create massive controls, to a pretext which is global warming or whatever they use to reflect the earths natural fluctuations at the time. Climate Change is constant, and has much to do with the activity of the Sun. I doubt they've figured a way to convince the mushrooms that we influence the sun, but if they could they would. The same kind of assholes probably used eclipses to profit from the impressionable masses. Prehistoric Al Gore lol.
Back in the 70s, John Holdren (Our "Science Czar" in the US. An Obama creation) wrote extensively on how we were causing the onset of a global ice age. How ice would build up on the poles so high that it would eventually collapse and kill all life within 200 miles of any coast, by massive tidal waves! What was his cure? Hey, guess what? It was giving huge amounts of money to the government and huge levels of power.
I know, I know, you've seen so much "evidence" on TV. Swimming polar bears and all that, which they've always done and their numbers have increased 500%. The reports of melting ice caps and glaciers. You know they were supposed to be gone by now right? Places on earth underwater? A home Al Gore bought on the beach in California which he predicted would be under water soon ... why would he do that? I wonder ...
There have been more scams than the hockey stick graph WHICH THEY STILL TRY TO USE EVEN THOUGH IT WAS OUTED AS A TOTAL PREMEDITATED SCAM. The ice levels in the North Pole were cheated and busted by Google Earth Watchers. Levels in the South pole have actually grown. Funny the ships full of climate scientists trapped in ice that wasn't supposed to happen.
There is much to this scam. Volumes could be written, and have been, but they are basically censored as a kind of blasphemy. Papers written were dismissed. The "peer review" process corrupted.
What you see that's so convincing is a production. Facts are suppressed and people who attempt to put them out defamed, threatened, and harmed. They are ostracized from the "scientific community" by government influence. That's where these guys get their money. That influence is and always has been a hell of a lot more powerful than integrity and a love of truth and science. Many have actually spoken out, and been hammered for it. Threatened with criminal charges and even physical harm to themselves and those they love.
I understand you won't buy this, but what you should do is think about it and watch it more closely. Don't accept it like people do religion. It's really become a cult.
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John Thursday You're way off on the Banking crisis too. The federal government's Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac set the secondary market standards. Banks had to compete with other banks. CEOs which didn't do all they could to get the most share of business they could were breaking the law by not looking out for share holders. The outcome was very predictable.
Here is a little something I wrote on it a while back.
Bill Clinton's last months as president included an economy in mid crash, that's the history. The Republican congressional majority that was elected stopped Bill from continuing his damaging over spending. There was a "train wreck" where rather than pull back on his insane spending Clinton allowed the government to shut down. Democrats ran dishonest adds and said Republicans wanted Grandma to eat cat food lol, and now Clinton is seen as the responsible one who cut back on debt?! HAHAHA ain't we stupid.
Bill Clinton implemented the Clinton Gorelick wall that allowed 911 perps to go uncaught until it was too late. We were hit on 911 7 months into the Bush presidency after heavy obstruction from the Clinton White House to their getting things rolling for transition AND extreme obstruction by Democrats in the Senate for filling cabinet and other important posts. The full National Security Team from the Clinton Presidency was kept on, plus more was added, excellent people since maligned dishonestly in media. 911 happened, and the economy was already tanking and that sent it DOWN.
The recovery was swift because GWB AND democrats in congress implemented steps that work. Lowering taxes which helped the economy and actually increased Revenue which it does every time as JFK put to practice and expounded on, and it of course worked when he did it. Democrats lie about this, saying GWB crashed the economy, and you have to be an ignorant not to understand that's a lie.
The Banking crash is a direct result of permissive borrowing regs, the main push BY DEMOCRATS. Who was in charge of Fannie and Freddy, started into their corruption by Bill Clinton Appointees? CEOs appointed ... A who's who of Democrat deep trusted organized crime operatives like Franklin Rains (who perpetrated a 96 MILLION $ fraud and kept it though it was found out), Gorelick (of the Clinton Gorelick Wall) and Daily of the Chicago Organized crime / Mayor Daily's) and many more corrupt characters, all democrats.
Republicans were not perfect, they rode the wave of democrat induced false prosperity (all the way back to Carter and his Community reinvestment act forcing banks to make bad loans) to gain politically from it, but the driving cause was majorly democrat officials moves. That's just the truth of it. I don't give a damn about political party, only truth, that people know the truth.
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rob sol Wiki attributions: References at Google Book
Woodrow Wilson: "I am a most unhappy man; unwittingly I have ruined my country..."
The American Mercury by George Jean Nathan, Henry Louis Mencken, 1924, p. 56 [2]
"President Woodrow Wilson-( After breaking with the engineers of the Fed Act, and near his death), "I am a most unhappy man; unwittingly I have ruined my ..."
The Federal Reserve Hoax By Wickliffe B. Vennard, 1959, p. 27, full quote [3]
Richard Cotten's Conservative Viewpoint by Richard B. Cotten [4]
"PRESIDENT WOODROW WILSON - (After breaking with Colonel House) who with Warburg engineered the Fed. act: "I am a most unhappy man; unwittingly I have ruined ..."
To All My Children As the World Turns By Gyeorgos C. Hatonn, 1993, p. 152 [5]
"Even Woodrow Wilson would regret his actions and before his death, stated: "I am a most unhappy man--unwittingly I have ruined my country."
After Fascism By Abid Ullah Jan, p. 31, full quote [6]
Web of Debt By Ellen Hodgson Brown. p. 127, partial quote [7]
"The bill passed on December 22, 1913, and President Wilson signed it into law the next day. Later he regretted what he had done. He is reported to have said before he died, "I have unwittingly ruined my country."
Outsourcing Culture By Robert E. Greenwood Jr. Phd, p. 118, partial quote [8]
--98.202.49.82 22:09, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
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The "right" is more calling for equal treatment. Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, Tim Allen (it was about saying Hollywood should chill out about Trump) Many others have been attacked.
Goes back to Rush Limbaugh and MANY in between. Conservatives being mass removed from College campuses.
Nixon was trashed, and Republicans didn't defend him over stuff that pales in comparison to the shit Clinton Pulled and Obama pulled. Calls for his impeachment. Resigned.
Ronald Reagan was trashed and heavily investigated for things that pale in comparison to what Clinton & Obama have done. Calls for his impeachment.
George Bush I was trashed continually. Calls for his impeachment.
Bill Clinton the rapist who sold missile guidance tech to the Chinese and left us open to 911 attack with the Clinton Gorelick Wall which he used to help his contributors, the Chinese, spy on us ... was protected by media, and only caught a tiny bit of flack over Monica Lewinsky which the left says is a lot, but it's a hell of a lot less than he deserved or that any Republican would have gotten. He WAS Impeached on the lesser of the crimes he committed. Protected from the extreme crimes he committed which were treasonous.
Bush Jr was trashed incessantly, they even had a TV show lampooning him, which would never happen to a democrat. Bush caught hell for the patriot act which Obama kicked up to way beyond what Bush had, and caught no shit.
Obama has just been on a fucking crime spree, obstructed investigations into many crimes his administration did, spied on all of us and he's protected.
The right wouldn't have defended anyone standing with Obama's severed head. Why would you say they would? You skew things Dave.
Republicans didn't stand up for "Kramer" and his outburst, or many others. They only call for equal treatment, consistent with their push against slavery, against less voting rights for blacks and women, which Republicans pushed through despite Democrats wide and lengthy opposition.
Bill Mahr previously made jokes about incest between Trump and Ivanka. Kathy Griffith says she was going to go hard against Barron Trump and many leftist asshole comedians and media people have trashed Barron. Many have called for Trump's assassination. Called him a piece of shit.
Trump, there were calls for his impeachment before he was in office. The Russia thing brought up which is BULLSHIT over Crowdstrike, which is the ONLY source, and they took the 5th rather than testify. They are Soros connected, with a history of fraud trying to frame Russia, who they hate as they are Ukrainian. Trump deserve more protection than Obama, because Trump has done nothing wrong, at all. But you wouldn't know it from the fucking constant lying about him and actions in media. The hate from every corner of show buizz.
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richo61 Not saying your post wasn't intelligently written, but much of the blundering we attribute to governments are deliberate calculated moves to gain a desired situation. We would have a better understanding with the realization that people in powerful positions are seldom taking actions with our best interests in mind (unless it meshes with their own) but are playing for their own interest. Much of their interest will align with interests of others we never see, but who bribe leaders.
The insanity we think we see, the stupidity, is most often corruption. Corruption is the rule. Actual stupidity is extremely rare as to significant important moves. It's not just leaders we see making decisions, but powerful forces ( highly interested, invested people) behind the scenes who are anything but stupid.
Now, Obama is not the sharpest tool in the shed, very apparent when he goes off teleprompter, but he doesn't call the shots either. The kind of support he had? The money from illegal sources that wasn't questioned? His past that was hidden? You can smell the power behind the scenes if you pay attention. Not stupid, ruthless and corrupt. Unquestionably above the law.
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***** Evil Windmill Thanks for the information you guys.
Exactly why I gave a link to an easy to understand translation of Koran. Everyone interested should read it, and everyone should be interested.
You have to read the whole thing and study to understand, and Koran is used to con people, which is actually directed in the Koran. Different names for different methods and flavors of deception.
As with anyone or any group you have to watch the totality of actions and see through facades and deception by keeping your mind open.
People as defined by Koran, are not disbelievers. Those are Kaffir, and doing anything you want to them is fine. Torture, Rape, Murder, Theft, Enslavement ... and Islam is the largest legal slave trade today, as they've been through most of their history.
Muslims pride themselves on being masters of deception and stealthy tactics. They praise Allah as the master deceiver.
I don't hate Muslims, I see them as the worst affected victims of the cult, as a group, but it would be extreme idiocy to believe what they say. To buy how they present information. Understanding that they value deception so highly, and do not value truth, except among the cult members.
Their version of peace means everyone who doesn't believe is DEAD or maybe enslaved, but eventually dead ... but that peace doesn't happen with their control. After they pretty much swept their known world with little hold out, they destroyed themselves through infighting and corruption. They are a people dependent on quest, theft. They are at the foundation an extremely parasitic culture. Not to bright when they are also a genocidal culture. They self destruct when they've killed off the host.
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Prow Prowsky Sure, many Muslims don't know what their religion is, but what's so dangerous is they believe in it and when told what it is don't as often quit as become followers of it. There is huge cultural pressure, and it's supported from the governments of the countries they infiltrate for the most part.
We have examples, Muslims don't integrate they attempt to take over and it's kill or be killed at some point. Usually they're slick about it and by the time it's to that point it's too late. THAT is the essence of Islam. It's the core.
Christians follow the new testament. There is nothing even remotely similar to Islam. Comparing the two to make an argument, is not rational fact based argument.
No country with any intelligent leadership working for it's people should even allow Islam to exist. Muslims who don't believe in it shouldn't have a problem denouncing it. Those who don't should at least be isolated from the rest of the people. Islam creates mental illness in it's followers. A criminally insane state of extreme neurosis, leading to psychosis, where they are a very real danger to others, and themselves.
The only way we can help Muslims, is get them out of that cult. Multiculturalism to the degree it's being pushed, is extreme self destructive stupidity, or worse. It seems like the worst, is most likely true.
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+The Rubin Report I'm beginning to wonder if all of this is genuine, about coming together. Putting forth the dishonest (or extremely naive / ignorant) narrative about Trump as if it's "gospel" while by default, Pushing a corrupt hack like Hillary? An apologist for a rapist husband? She got booted off the Watergate prosecution by a hard line democrat prosecutor, for gross misconduct and fraud? Her BS in Benghazi, which is very real, lies very real, cover up very real, and either she was extremely incompetent, but the most likely scenario by far which doesn't assume so many extremely improbable story lines in a row are true, is that Hillary set up Stevens for murder. The before shows that is most probable, and the during shows that is most probable. The after is a horrendous mess of idiotic lies and cover up. Destroying evidence. Sending witnesses where they can't be interviewed for over a year. All of the other things she did which are so corrupt. There is either gross ignorance and lack of curiosity here, or disingenuous actual motives going on which don't jive with the whole getting together on reasonable ground, thing.
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+deiviance I hadn't gotten to that part at the time, in fact I started the vid again and it came up where they are mystified about how feminists get in bed with Islamists ... but they don't draw a parallel to how feminists support Bill Clinton, a rapist, a man who's been called out by women who he worked with, democrats, who've give accounts of rape, sexual assault without rape but physical attacks with brutal intimidation like Paula Jones who was a loyal democrat and who's harassment trial Bill lied at. How do feminists get in bed with Islam? Easily, because that branch of "feminism" isn't about feminism at all. It's a progressive group that's all about propaganda, using feminism as pretext. They see Muslims as allies to the progressive cause because the progressives put out that message and they don't think in real terms.
And supporting Sanders shows a deep ignorance of economics, but really that's what Universities have been teaching lately on economics, deep ignorance which basic analysis exposes as production creates wealth, not government programs, because you need some products to buy and sell and supply and demand and all that. The more a nation produces the more it get around and the more people can give to help others. The poor in the US are rich by world standards. This is because of freedoms, which drive the ability to gain from work and innovation. Sanders proposals simply can't be paid for, and the effort would over tax and destroy the motivation to produce. Keynes came up with the Laffer curve before Laffer did. He did Keynesian economics from Harvard after he was a mess. A drug addict and a pedophile. Keynesian economics is a con that fits in with the Progressive movement's agenda just as open borders does. To crash the economy of the US, so the country can be transformed. That transformation won't favor the poor, it will give the most wealthy the Oligarchy that is always the end result in collectivism.
I don't see how there can be a knitting of "reasonable people" when those making the attempt, maybe, are so far out of reasonable perspective on so many issues. Who are so far out in a religious level on important components of societal health, but don't probably understand it any more than the theists understand.
I guess I was so hopeful because Dave was seeing past part of this religious level indoctrination to think there could be reasonable conversation on all of it, but O_O holy shit. Mystified how feminists could get in bad with Islamists when it's so obvious that is what progressives do on so many levels. The power of the indoctrination baffles me. That one can see one part of this and not other parts that work on the same basic style of propaganda. That I know by experience that trying to have a reasoned factual conversation about those issues, is like talking to a religious zealot on their problem issues. The possibility of actually having reasoned conversations on important issues suddenly became overwhelmingly remote in a painful epiphany. BUT where the conditioned victims can open their eyes on one subject, maybe there is hope? But this is such a simple obvious subject that jumps right out, and still most progressives don't even get that. Seems the only hope is if it plays through to destruction and people then see the results, but by then a lock on the world by the nasty people paying for and pushing most of this indoctrination will be in lock and oppression the rule world wide as before people woke up and fought for freedom, culminating in the US Constitution and the most successful civilization in known history of the world for the average person in terms of freedoms and life style. Exactly what the Progressive movement (which is why I've for years called that movement regressive) was created by wealthy movers and shakers in the world, to do. That is the big fight. Against the actual cause of the insanity ingrained in so many, through mass propagation and distribution of propaganda and massive reinforcement. Very much like religion does, and just as hard if not harder to undo the conditioning.
Thinking about this as I have been, Dave isn't ingenuine, he's mind fucked on an extreme level much similar to Muslims and hard line Christians. So is Peter, to what total extent it's hard to tell without seeing more. I mean I've been there on certain subjects, and I hope I'm not on others. It's a constant struggle to separate what is real from the bad information tossed at us continually.
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HILLARY CRIMES PRIMA FACIE
Hillary has broken the law concerning handling of classified information. Felony even if there is gross negligence, which there was, at least. This has landed many in jail who've done far less with no intent proven.
Hillary has destroyed evidence after receiving a subpoena. She used bleach bit to erase it beyond recovery, which is more than enough to prove intent. Thousands of counts on that Obstruction of justice felony.
Hillary is proven to have lied to the FBI, a felony, which landed Martha Stewart in Jail.
Hillary lied to congress, it's proven, a felony.
Hillary has actually exposed through speech classified information on US secrets. It's proven, it's espionage. It's a felony.
There are five felonies committed by Hillary, thousands of counts, which are now public information. There are more.
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You've come to some rational realizations, which is good. Time for more. There will always be violent people out there. Forcing populations to be defenseless sheep will never be a good thing. Whether it's Muslims who take advantage, governments, criminals, people will never be protected. Not even if you get to the point people are in bondage basically to keep them safe.
Cue, you won't have that kind of mass shooting in Israel, because the people act as their own security. There is nothing crazy about that. It's extremely practical.
When you say "I'd never defend the NRA" it has the quality, the dynamic of a religious precept. In your own paradigm it appears right, but so does killing infidels in a Koran driven paradigm. You can rail against religion all you want, but you're engaged in that level of idiocy when you've got this idea that "of course it's bad for people to defend themselves". Hell no it's not bad. If the people in that conference were armed that wouldn't have gone that way. 43 people were shot, helpless. [There was a woman shooter ... another woman killer not long after Obama taunted Republicans about being wary of women and children in his bigoted idiocy where a women or child can't kill. They sure as hell can.] We don't know exactly how it would have gone down, maybe a person would have been hit by friendly fire, is one or two dead from friendly fire worse than 8-10 more dead because the people were helpless?
What is the alternative to people acting as their own security. More cops? is that better? Less freedom where everyone is treated like a criminal all day every day as they are in the fucking TSA abuse lines? Those idiotic ineffective abuse lines where 90% of weapons tests get through anyway? Israel has better security, and they don't abuse people who are not much of a threat.
I'm calling on you +The Rubin Report ,to toss the irrational ideology which is so apparently (to me) taking the same place in your mind that religion takes in those you see acting like morons. Also, freedoms, you've got to give them to get them. I don't want to be denied the ability to defend myself and those around me. To be left helpless because I follow laws in society, because it's a sure thing those who won't follow those laws won't have too much trouble being armed. I know this because I know weapons and they are easy to create. You can't stop that, and even without guns criminals can plan and devise methods to destroy people because they have the advantage of intent, while in self defense you have to deal with what comes.
If you weren't defended by Israeli weapons there ... the Palestinians would be tossing you off a roof or worse for being gay. I'd never do that, and I'd risk my life to stop it. I'm not Christian, but most of them who carry would do the same.
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orochimarujes Bubble people strike once again! Ted Cruz, while being a brilliant scum bag, is a facade of a Conservative. He's also a very unprincipled person, very. He supported TPP, which contains massive amounts of dictated refugee influx to the US which is a Soros dictate. He lied about the refugee & immigration components and called Jeff Sessions a liar on the point. Cruz was confident in his lie because the TPP is very well hidden from the US people. Cruz got busted by Wikileaks in his bald face lie, and exposed him to any paying attention that he's no Conservative. He goes with the money in seeking power. Ted Cruz is also an "anointed King" in the fraud which is Dominion Theology, which is more Islam like than Christian in that is advocates "taking wealth from the wicked" & giving control of it to the Priests, done through the Kings, of which Ted accepted the anointing. Heidi Cruz also works with Soros in the CFR pushing the North American Union, which is extreme violation of the US Constitution. The Reason Senators hate Cruz isn't because he's principled. It's because he steps on people, lies about them for his own empowerment. It's why his college mates hated his guts and his room mate refers to him as a nightmare of a human being.
Ted Cruz only got the support he did because the media, including Fox, was doing anything to defeat Trump. The barrage of inaccuracies heaped on Trump were insane. The ignoring of Cruz problems, like his being on stage endorsed by a nut bar who just said God's law calls for killing gay people, shrieking like an insane banchie while preaching this vile shit. If not for being the last resort for Globalists, Cruz candidacy would have been very bland and not of note.
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Tammy Tee You can't reason with YOU people. I can demonstrate how government involvement pushed up tuition costs. How "leftist" involvement from Europe pushed out all but insanely leftist elements in control of colleges, resulting in too high pay for derelict fools who don't have to do their jobs, and are doing more damage than good in professorship positions as well as administration. Now we have idiotic gender studies, race studies, and all this garbage where students are being propagandized in the ridiculous.
Since the start of the US dept of education, costs and graft in K-12 has gone through the roof, quality of education way down. Almost every means of education outside of that disaster yields much better results at much lower costs. Children are also being conditioned in ways that are damaging to them and our society. It all seems deliberate, more so when you understand all of the similar instances of government involvement creating a problem that they gain power and money for their supporters in the attempt to fix, which makes it worse.
I can also show you how government pushed up the price of health care, causing a problem that they then stepped in to "fix" and now it's even much worse. The sequence of adjustments made leads to a conclusion it has been deliberate.
Government also pushed up housing prices and caused the banking crash, and it seems quite deliberate. The government lost sweet heart lawsuits brought by agenda driven environmentalists who's agenda was not the environment, but creating an economic effect. The spotted owl was a scam (proven later, it was a larger owl pushing them out) to stop timber production which drove housing prices way up. Even clean hydro electric projects were stopped on silly suits about a rare fish which lives in lakes, but since some were in streams they created a new name and declared them endangered, which is a huge lie. Energy has been the focus of massive Prog government obstruction, unless it's something they can scam on like solar and wind. They blow our tax money in subsidies and companies make a bunch of energy production companies that go bankrupt and feds change the rules about recapture and allow those contributor CEOs to walk away with 100s of millions after wasting billions of our money.
Government has pushed up energy prices. Government has pushed up food prices. Through a scam of Global Warming which is based on a cherry picking of science and false claims of consensus of support from a bogus study which is a joke, a claim of "settled science" has been made which is quite ludicrous, but the media says it and that's about all you hear, so people buy it. I looked into it and it doesn't take much to understand that the Science behind it is a joke, and it's gained so much mega billionaire even trillionaire support (Obama working for Soros actually set up the Chicago Climate exchange, from Soros Joyce foundation which Obama was an officer of) because it's their game to steal trillions from the US people and more from the whole world of people who's leaders can be bribed into going along. Scams like the hockey stick graph have been busted, but the scammers still paid even after their emails laying out how it was a scam were exposed.
The list goes on and on, and it's backed by good information, if you will look. Most of the media, News and even entertainment are focusing on pushing the scam. We and other countries around the world are being propagandized at an amazing level. The lies being told are obvious, and many even admitted in a low key way, once they've laid an impression on the mushrooms, but they still insist on the narrative built from what is known to be disinformation.
I know I'm wasting this on your mushroom ass, but it's not really for you. For others who may read it.
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An Evolving Ape We don't have a democracy moron. We have a Representative Republic. Democracies are hell on earth. I don't lie at all. I have no reason to. What I want is what's good for the people and that's good enough for me. I need no unfair advantage.
Your problem is you are disinformed, and possibly pretty stupid. At least you seem stupid. If you're buying what you learn in College, see in the Media, including Entertainment (which has become Goebbels style propaganda, notice how political themes are always pushed?) then you are forming some incorrect ideas about what's real out there. I'm very smart. I study what I see doesn't fit. I tell people what I find, and I'm usually right, though at times I have gotten things wrong and I found that out by not clinging to ideas, but clinging to truth.
If more people saw what I see we could do something about it, and the super wealthy playing us and using us wouldn't have the power they do, because they only get that through the masses. If more people saw this life could be so much better for all but those who make huge gains through conning the masses. The truth being understood would be a very good thing. Unfortunately there is big money in playing us, big, huge, money invested, and extreme money and power gained. We've been studied and it's known what makes us tick. How to control masses. Sigmund Freud did a lot of work on it and his nephew wrote a book on it, Propaganda. Hitler asked for a copy from the Progs in the US who loved him, and the book Eugenics, and used them both and they really helped in his efforts. Joe Goebbels said they couldn't have gotten the support to do what they did without "Propaganda" He loved that book. We are having that very info used against our masses today, and it's working very well. You are a great example.
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memwill See, to avoid saying really stupid things and looking like a dip shit, use logic. Determine the usual rate of bankruptcy in business. Also, it seems that you see those bankruptcies as personal when they were 1 business out of many businesses, 4 separate times. It wasn't Trump declaring bankruptcy as a person.
Trump's record is outstanding. You've been duped into zero sum stupidity as far as judging Trump's success, which means if he's better than almost anyone, but not perfect, dip shits like you can be fooled into believing his over all record is bad.
Say in school you got 99.25% it would be an A+. Some moron like you starts harping on the .0075 and says your A+ is failure. HELLO? That moron is YOU! LOL! and the math is about correct.
Actually in business 4 of 5 businesses end up in failure. So if Trump had failed 10000% more than he did, he still would have beaten the averages.
Then dip shit, you need to calculate how many people in Trump's business end up ahead over 10 BILLION $ starting with basically nothing, but he had a 1 million $ loan, but that wasn't his money ... you can count them on your personal digits, and probably one hand.
To head off more of your stupidity, Trump was loaned 1 million, paid it back soon and didn't get inheritance until decades later, and he split that with his siblings, and he's made his father most of that money he inherited, he made his siblings rich too.
Donald J Trump is highly intelligent. 150-160 IQ as tested at Wharton school of finance. He's a genius. He's also high performing even for that IQ because he worked his ass off and was naturally good at what he did. We was well grounded by his father, who didn't ever give him something for nothing, and sent him to tough schools to get even more discipline. Trump also passed that one to his children who are very successful and very good people as well as Trump, who is a very good person.
It's entertaining the way you lecture with arrogance, but you're so fucking stupid you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground.
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No evidence Russia is involved with wikileaks who've pissed them off good in the past, and made the Democrats happy with their leaks on Republicans. The wikileaks are extremely damaging to the DNC, they busted them rigging the election. The way the fucking Clinton machine works is they need to turn attention from them and blame someone else. Russia fits nicely right now. Russia is also getting in the way of destroying Syria which wikileaks brings to light is Soros orders, as was Libya, we know Soros was in Lybia and Egypt, he gave directions on destabilizing Angola. This is fact now, from his emails. Wikileaks has a history of over a decade of putting out good information, not altered. Their goal is truth to inform the people from what they've done in their history.
Russia has it's ambitions. To call them an enemy while taking money from Islamic nations and helping Iran get nuclear weapons in a few years? Destroying or trying to destroy all ME countries which protect minorities and don't sponsor terrorism? Bringing the world of the middle east, almost all military aged males into Western Countries? We're the fucking enemy, because basically we are Soros and probably his backers, the Rothschild Cartel. They have nothing good in mind for Western Countries. We've seen some of the results of the open borders bullshit, which is about destroying countries.
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The problem is info control ... and it's very wealthy people who own media and entertainment. A few that can be easily and are influenced. The people need their own information system, and it's got to be open to all ideas and people need to have their heads out of their asses.
There is a reason high deff TV was pushed by government, it was pushed by some corporations and people like Soros wanted info control for politics, corps wanted to influence us to buy. The FCC controls who is on the air according to who is doing what politicians are being paid for, and the super wealthy win the bidding war for the right to influence us. It also goes on in Universities and is going on in K-12, we shouldn't have a dept of education. It's a total conflict of interest. It's like Obamacare, control of health care is HUGE, it's one of Alinsky's big check list items to push Socialism ... which isn't Socialism, ever. It's bait for would be Oligarchs to gain support of stupid greedy lil people.
Now, it's those most wealthy would be Oligarchs of the WORLD who are pushing Muslims, because those assholes are non thinking by religion, stupid fucks who are already under control. Not under control of the same scum bags, and they fight all the time, but they are trained to be fucking idiotic and ME Muslims only average 75 IQ, because Islam is stunting. That's perfect for Soros buddies.
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limerickcrime About an average proportion to the population of religious people have been the most brilliant people in their times. Religion isn't about intelligence, it's about paradigms. Intelligent people tend to better back their own paradigms. Seeing through paradigms is another characteristic all together.
Education is relative. Look at Education today? Less about Religion, but still indoctrinating people with ideology which has the same basic behavioral characteristics of religion.
I mean the very manner in which you speak of education is a tell of an indoctrinated paradigm on the subject. How you oppose it against Religion. Some of the best educations with the best outcomes have come in institutions that taught theistic religion along with other subjects.
In Universities as we speak, the social sciences, whatever they call the special study areas like woman's studies and all the other crap, even economics, don't just teach things were can't prove. They teach utter bullshit, cherry picked facts to an agenda ... indoctrination. Worse by far aberrations from logic (assuming group think like religion and indoctrinational politics is bad) than Theology.
Of course the highest regarded institutions have received as much as many billions each from donors, mostly from Europe. They don't invest that kind of cabbage, without expecting a return. Since, we've seen the University seen become bigoted against certain trains of thought, and just fucking insane in action. Not hard to come to a pretty good theory what has transpired in trade for billions.
The first shot at this was the Rhodes Scholarship. It's a good read when you study up on the purpose of this, and why Rhodes (founded of Debeers, mass murderous heavily racist evil bastard, they names Rhodesia after). Who came into Debeers after Rhodes died? Same group who own the US federal reserve bank and most central banks world wide. Also own Monsanto, Barclays, and many other corps. That is the only group I can conceive after much investigation could make such donations. The only ones who's agenda fits that kind of thing. AND there is a huge bulge of trillions over GDP in a few banks in the countries they mostly haunt.
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YoungDespereaux I see the whole Republicans thing with Iran as bullshit. They were in Iranian waters and they didn't kill the guys or anything. Taking them is was harsh, but understandable, much as I really hate the Iranian regime. The nuke power deal though is supremely fucking stupid, those fuckers are really nuts. Our not helping the revolting forces in Iran who were justified is unforgivable given what we did in Egypt, Libya, and tried to do in Syria against leaders who were keeping the crazy fucks from murdering wholesale and purging all who were not Muslims the way they thought Muslims should be Muslim. The Iranians are the crazy fucks we should be fighting against. Most of their people the sane folks we should fight for, but NOOOOOOOOO ... MOTHING FUCKING NOOOOOOOO ... kinda pisses me off! just a lil.
The problem with Islam isn't people invading. They are the largest and most inhumane invaders in the history of the world. That is saying something, because in history inhumanity has been the rule, rather than exception.
Read up and watch the Vids. This guy is good on the subject. politicalislam.com he approaches from a scientific perspective and analysis the Koran, and Islam throughout history.
ISIS is ISLAM as it's laid out in the Koran. They are doing it according to their doctrine. No question. Their "sensibilities" are one sided, discounting the rest of humanity, and the most bigoted fucking thing on planet earth. My take on it? FUCK ISLAM, Fuck followers of the Koran. It's a genocidal cult. We should be helping people get away from the cult, giving them safe haven, but we're bringing in the worst of them. Making those who's escaped Islam shit their pants in fear which is very well justified.
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I have no use for a lying weasel, Ben Shapiro is that. It's about getting paid with him, the problem with most of the media, along with the large sources willing to pay. Ben's got no loyalty to truth, just uses pieces of it with untruth to make his bullshit sound authentic. Old propaganda staple.
Trump being honest is what caused the rub because it conflicts with the rampant corruption going on so many are getting fat from (stealing from the people). I mean Trump's not pure as the driven snow, and he hedged once in a while, which was usually because he didn't have time to totally dismantle a lie, so he hedged a bit to avoid it or he'd lose a point, wrongly. The main themes & what Trump claimed was going on was honest. Usually the outrage was over that. Media has been so compromised and to have someone say the truth in front of the whole country? Disaster for some who'd put so much effort into false narratives that paid them.
Trump also postures, as in what he said about NATO, but he was serious, it's been operating in an obsolete way. He sure doesn't want to get rid of such a great tool, but he puts pressure on dead beats to pay up, and lazy assholes to snap to it and make NATO a better instrument. It's part of his art, of the deal.
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Yeah, I'm obstinate like that :)) my bad behavior was no accident. I don't see Trump as perfect, but Dave's take is retarded and way off base. The personal preference on behavior? Ehh, that's opinion, and I don't give a fuck about political correctness or acting "presidential" that's a trap. I was horrified when he bombed Syria, I never thought he would, but unlike many in those situations I wait to get info in case my take wasn't right. It may not have been. Either way it was a good move in many ways in the long run. Trump is honest, he is brilliant, and he cares about people. I researched deeper than the MSM to understand that. He's not perfect, but I don't see his flaws as particularly serious negatives, not so far. Dave gets into the MSM bullshit which is just objectively false and like many it's colored his judgement. That's what happens. That's why propaganda is so effective, though not as effective evidently, as the Globalists wanted, this time. I don't think I called anyone a flip flopper. I advise you to not place straw men in place of others you speak with.
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aurora123borealis Treating science as religion is even less logical than treating religion as religion. Religions don't pretend to have proof. Politicians do pretend scientists have proof when they don't for political reasons, which include being paid to push a scam, like anthropologically created global climate change. No one with much of a brain denies it has changed. No one with much of a brain denies it's been changing since the earth had weather.
I know you haven't seen conclusive evidence people caused the changes, because there isn't any. There is a shitty poll that was manipulated several times to get a majority, but that's not science. AND the science has been tained by fraud and politicians threats, favoritism in who gets paid. The hockey stick graph which we know was a fraud, the frauds perps were busted in email exchange saying it was fraud ... and the assholes still got paid in the millions, for a known fraud! Kind of like the Dumham bitch who lied about rape and is a hero to the same assholes pushing the climate fraud because it's worth a lot of control and trillions to people they are being given contributions from.
The scientific method is non existent. They cherry picked factors that would lead to believe warming could be caused by CO2, but the amounts are less then 1 /1000th of the variable the earth puts out naturally AND they've ignored the cooling effect of CO2 because it increases flora growth which has a cooling effect through respiration. A FACT not even in dispute, a big factor, but it doesn't help the fraudulent case, so they just left it out.
Scientists who don't go along are threatened, and a big corp making big money on the scam recently recommended prosecution of "deniers" hello? Sound like the Catholic Church vs Galileo much?
Much more than that, but to any reasonably intelligent person checking it out, it's bullshit. There is motive to pull the bullshit. There is a lot more scientific disagreement that is advertised on the issue.
It's a scam. Just one example.
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Fiorina wasn't even legit as a VP pick. Ted couldn't make other than a Contested Convention steal, and in the Convention in that case he wouldn't pick the vice nom, the Convention would. Pretty fake, like Cruz.
You guys have Hillary! hahahaha! She should be charged and convicted of felonies. She's been a nasty corrupt bitch since she came into public life. Fired by an uber Democrat from Watergate for scheming to violate the Constitution, Fraud, leaking, conspiring to violate Nixon's Constitutional rights ... and it just got worse from there. She beat up Bill's sexual assault victims to shut them up. Was involved in Organized Crime in Arkansas. Was known as a cold uber bitch as first lady who ordered that no one look upon her in the hall ways of the white house. As secretary of State Colluded to take down Qaddafi illegitimately, Mubarak so the Muslim Brotherhood could take over. Tried to take down Assad. Pretty obviously set up Ambassador Stevens for a brutal rape and murder, or at the very least was a complete negligent idiot disregarding his many requests for security to the point it appears like it had to be a set up. She had local security take over right before he was to be in Benghazi without a hole in the security wall fixed? Colluded in cover up, sending witnesses to other countries for over a year. Faked a Stroke to skip a hearing ... please. If she had a stroke now "Maddam Secretary" (hahaha, nice Goebbels style propaganda in Entertainment to prop up the evil incompetent bitch) ... is running for President?
You idiots sure know how to pick em! And Trump is a mess? LOL!
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Rashid Coleman Funny they write about that when there are sex slaves and slaves are killed more than just once in a while. I read a thing about luring women over for jobs, not long ago. There is also a pretty strong slave trade of men ongoing.
The Middle East was over run by Muslims and they burned about any book and destroyed culture constructions. The Koran hasn't changed and it's a radical muslim practice still now, ISIS is doing it. The Taliban did it.
Seeing some information and thinking about it, the dark ages seem to coincide with the rise of Islam. That makes sense because they were all about destroying information that wasn't in Koran. They had a mind set that trying to explain things through science was evil. Trying to figure things out without using the Koran, some kind of slap in the face to Allah. Christians kind of do this, some of them, guess it's a religious thing. Christians wrote the bible in Latin and then wouldn't allow the public to learn Latin. Sort of like Gullible Warming also, lol. All these people agreed! but you wouldn't understand. Don't attempt to apply critical thinking! or you're an evil denier. The religious dynamic exists far more prevalently than just in religion proper.
Of course education is part of the process, which is why it's so "dangerous" but not all education is enlightening, much is created to indoctrinate. If good discussion is allowed that's an excellent symptom. "Settled Science" isn't a good symptom. Galileo ran into that one, and it hurt. "Settled Science" that aligns with something that stands to make people with a lot of influence in government and media lot's of power and or a lot of money, is an extremely suspect situation.
As I hit upon before because I wasn't answering in order, discussion is a very healthy thing, and a good sign regarding the teachings of whoever encourages it. People will agree on most facts given all possible information. People disagree most when selfish priorities supersede their interest in reality. I think it most healthy intellectually to keep selfish interest aligned with the interests of humanity as a whole, so reduce conflict. Greed is an extremely powerful motivator and our minds tend to bend reality to greed much too easily. It really does make humans easy meat.
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***** Check out history though, honestly, and the present. What is identifiable as demonstrable racism has always come from those we considered left. Democrat types. The claims of racism against Republicans require some leaps over logic. Equality, racist?
KKK? Yes, racist, Democrat invention. Republicans pushed it back. JFK after long fighting equal rights legislation, sided with Republicans to pass equal rights for black people. Johnson, the racist bastard, was dragged kicking and screaming. Then as Larry described came up with "help" which was extremely destructive, to black people as a group which was targeted specifically, but got the Democrats a voting block. That dependent on keeping the division in place and fostering black people's distrust of Republicans and "white" authority figures in general. Progressives pumped millions into black churches, paid off scum bags like Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton to push division. Created Black liberation theology which is extremely divisional and dishonest socialist ideology, to the extreme. Pushing dependence and stomping on ideas of independence in any real way. Demonizing working with white people as evil. Demonizing white people in general ... racism?
The Democrats have been the dealer of a drug worse than Heroin. Dependence. Of an ideology which is extremely destructive and stunting. Of excuses for failure and not working for what is needed and a better life.
Republicans ... southern strategy? Yeah, it was a cynical political move. It was about elections. Pretty ugly, though not compared to Democrat strategy in keeping dependent voting blocks by destroying whole areas and groups of people so they would be susceptible to destructive programs, which have proven destructive.
Who's racist?
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Very good, smart guy. I find it funny people can say they disagree based on not knowing shit but what they've been told. That's the way to be a sheep. Alex did make a good case on a single element of the universe of this Global Climate Change deal with the degrading effect based on higher quantity, but that's just one factor that was cherry picked past in the seeking of the end result they wanted from the start to regulate the gas which would result in regulating and controlling human activity the most. The most lucrative element in our air to use for the scam, CO2. There is also a huge factor in that more CO2 = more flora and more flora = more respiration which has a marked cooling effect.
We have to understand that the world right now is one huge scam factory for the most part and governments are tools in the hands of uber wealthy who'd like more, more money, more control ... when you see Soros involved in something, the Rothschild Cartel is involved probably and funding big time as well as using political and media contacts to influence policy and public opinion. Obama worked for Soros in Joyce foundation. Obama on Soros orders funded the Chicago Climate exchange to take advantage of the Global Weather demagoging scam to the Tune of trillions, in a scam the infamous ENRON corp brain childed. That's why all the scaming, all the pressure, even talk of prosecuting people who don't go along, IT'S FUCKING ORGANIZED CRIME THIS GLOBAL WEATHER SCAM, WHICH WAS A GLOBAL COOLING SCAM IN THE 79s pushed by Holdren, our fucking crooked scamming "Science" Czar.
We have to understand a little and dig some, because the "authority on the subject" scam is one of the very oldest and most effective, and that's what the Climate bullshit is based on.
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HJ GE Well I think it depends on the goal. Dave is attempting to discuss honestly, rather than have a debate where 2 sides advocate in less than intellectually honest form which accomplishes little to nothing.
I do think Larry was wanting to get points across and did kind of run over Dave often, but Dave was interviewing Larry, not having a debate. Larry also isn't used to being treated decently and listened to. It seems that came out.
I'd actually love to see them get into the nits and grits of the subject over a few beers, and really lay it all out.
It seems you're skipping over some of Larry's very well backed theories on this, which are not just one possibility. It's something that's actually happened. Did it cause what problems we now see? It's not provable, but it is very consistent with science if anthropological behavior, which also has much in common with behavior of other complex life forms and even less complex life forms.
Did Black people have high crime rates before the 60s? No, no they did not. Did they have high incidents of the common denominator statistically in high crime and jail time? No, no they did not. So was this caused by the effects of slavery? umm, no, probably not, though I'm sure it left the group susceptible. Every group in the world almost has a history of slavery. In Jews the whole fucking race was enslaved. Black people in Africa were enslaved by other black people, and Muslims and Muslims were enslaved as Jews, their ancestry. Is slavery 150 years ago the cause? No, probably not. Racism which was pervasive over a generation ago? Well that had been going on since slavery and it didn't cause the problems we see after the "help" black people were targeted with. Cause and Effect is pretty strong with the Larry one on this. Don't you think?
If you take a scientific approach to this thing, Larry hits it on the most likely causes to the problems we see.
The denying racism being racism is circular logic. It's a thing being pushed around by dirt bags who need there to be racism because it pays so fucking well! Selling out the black people has made Jackson, Sharpton and many others millionaires. One of the worst problems black people have is the resentment and the anger that eats at the soul, which is manufactured for the very purpose of keeping them down in a dependent isolated alienated voting block ... it's sort of like slavery. Democrats historically have fed on the type of shit.
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Arik Haydn Anyone? absolutes are a red flag indication of indoctrination. The US educational system was amazing, until the Federal government got hands on it when Carter created the unconstitutional Dept of Education. It's been a slide down as the expense skyrocketed since. Private education is amazing, and home school results kick public educations ass. The UN did a rating that includes preschool as automatic positive, but reality shows that's false. Preschool isn't a positive, though it is in UN Propaganda which was obviously reverse engineered to a desired result. The UN is an extremely corrupt body. Their "information" and motives should rightfully always be suspect. They put the worst abusers on the human rights council and their history is atrocious, they haven't improved.
Numbers on the Military? Well I think there is massive waste and fraud, but as far as being a humane military that regards human rights? they're about the top and by far the highest of any large power in that regard. There is a shit load of waste and politics, I'd agree with that. The US goes into action to help using our people and money and doesn't take anything for it. Who does that? I mean we've done some things recently like attacking Assad and protecting funding and arming the scum he was fighting, who is ISIS that was way fucked, but that's Obama and it wasn't voted on. Our shit in Libya was to support a huge corrupt special interest that Soros was working for. Qaddafi had been comparatively sweet to his people. Our moves in Egypt to remove Mubarak who was keeping the crazy blood thirty muslims from killing everyone else? That was fucking insane, unless you're on the Muslim Brotherhoods side, and Obama / Soros are, as well as ISIS side. Iran a horrible abuser of human rights, murderer of gays and stoned of raped women ... their people rise up and what did Obama do? Not a fucking thing. He let those people go to hell. That's not our military's fault or even our country. Obama isn't pro US at all, or our interests or established values.
It depends on how deep you go. Our kids aren't getting a balanced education in Colleges any longer with very few exceptions if any. They're getting indoctrinated, lied to. Filled full of shit. You have to wonder (more like see it's likely) that billions of $ and federal involvement in Colleges have corrupted them to the point they are more propagandizing than teaching.
When you look at the US under the Constitution when it was at least a large influence, the USA is an amazing country. The most advanced in the world, in history.
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Sanders is a loon in a cartoon. He's a nicer guy than Hillary, lol, high bar there, but he's someone who never had a real job and lived off others until he was 40. His plans would destroy the economy, and then the country. I don't know if he's planning on coming through, but he wont. He can't, and in the process could destroy us, or if he plans on continuing the path of the scum bags behind Obama (Soros, Jarrett and Friends) we will go down to Oligarchy and they will make our lives hell ... bringing in hoards of Muslim men isn't just for fun. It would be stupid if they cared about us, but we are just kind of in the way like the Rancher they murdered and the people they are running over with regulatory and departmental abuse like the US was a 3rd world country.
Trump is a loud guy who the world is coming unglued trying to stop, but not the whole world, just the pope who pushes open borders and says a wall makes you unchristian while he is in the Vatican WITH A HUGE ASS WALL. Trump is someone who is very smart, very effective and he knows how to win. Someone you'd want to hire as CEO ... if he will work for you. If ... He's got a great record of loyalty and success, generosity and getting things done no one thought he could.
Hillary is a no go, the bitch is horrible and has been all through her corrupt depraved history. Cruz? Nope, the guy is a hard liner Bennie Hinn disciple who is proving to also be a con man. The rest of the Republicans except Carson are just the face of the huge money that backs them and most of those, Hillary as well.
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I constantly jump on Republicans as well. I give Crowder shit because he is strident in pushing back on hypocrisy with truths ... BUT when it comes to subjects Christianity is involved in he goes reactionary and acts just like a Prog protecting the prog cult. Both the object of "THE GOOD" which replaces reason, consistency, and sound principal. Religion is thick with the group think dynamic, Progressivism and other such corrupting causes the same dynamic.
Religious venom targeting gay people and certain freedoms backs certain people into a corner like the progressive attacks do others. No one wins that but politicians by gaining bribes and constituencies / power and the people who buy to create these situations and gain from it. We ordinary people lose, we totally fuck ourselves by trying to hire politicians to push for our agendas, greed, or whatever.
To reinforce some people's idea that I must be an idiot, let's compare these things to Nazism :). People supported Nazi moves because they were pulled in with the promise of personal gain (National Socialist Workers Party) so fuck the Jews and Gays and infirm people and groups of Christians and and and and ...
Group think / Mob mentality is a powerful thing, so is greed. People WANT to believe they can have more for little or no effort even if it's stolen from others. Heaven, subsidies, lop sided Union demands supported by corruption with government that end up destroying companies and leaving many jobless ...
These motivators of groups, are almost always a con. Same principal where a con artist seeds money into a con investment. Pays out amazing rates and people flock to the investment and don't even want to see obvious problems with it cause they want the riches promised. Then he scoots with all the money or whatever. That has been what is religion's biggest move, power and money to the top. Division of the people along ideological lines (which are sweetened with heaven, money, power, ext ...) that gets them trampling others rights.
Progressivism is the flip side of religion with the same dynamics, just different names for things. Different groups served.
This reality should be pounded into children's heads so they can live in this world without being conned. Unfortunately, powerful people gain control of the curriculum and justify lying to kids with greed. The higher up in government these things are decided, the more powerful the greed motive is because control can be gained away from local objection and with a few people. More economical to buy the sell out.
This shit is obvious when you look at actions and directions of leaders and groups, without confirmation bias.
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Serah Wint Evil is simplistic, though there are animals (people included) which are just fucked in the head for a number of reasons. Things have to eat, so they kill to do so. Regard usually extended to beings which have some meaning to other beings. I hate to narrow it down to people, because behaviors seem to stem from similar motives in most mammals, but even fish and crustaceans.
Social norms seem to stem from learned behavior, in line with the origins of behavior which have developed.
I've always been very interested in behavior, since before I was interested in behavior but very curious as to why people and then other animals do what they do.
I think much of behavior is ingrained genetically in ways our scientists haven't quite figured out. Even physical characteristics change much quicker than natural selection would allow for. There must be some kind of intelligent trigger and some information given before observing behavior is even started. In development in an egg or womb or wherever. BUT! the vast majority of behavior is obviously learned. I call it the Bones in Nose, Sticks on the Dicks phenomenon in humans. Nothing seems to be weird of out of place in people if important influences do it and or accept it. It just IS the NORMAL to us. The vast majority of Religious affiliation, Political affiliation, even Sports team fandom comes from important influences around us. Most of the time, a very high % it's what's around us. Other influences come through though and can sometimes supplant what's around us. It's how people think. Mob Mentality, Group Think ... those reflect this reality.
I'm not the only one who's noticed this of course. It's been studied deeply and used extensively in advertising, religion, politics, ext. Sigmund Freud's Nephew who became an amazing add man and may have learned a few things from Uncle who was working on it, wrote a book called Propaganda. How to predict and control people in groups. Hitler actually got and used this book, Goebbels loved it and said it wouldn't have been possible to condition the population the way they did, without it. He used entertainment which he took basic control of, to amazing extent. People don't usually mentally guard against messages received from entertainment. Young impressionable people are also the easiest to influence, as they have little life experience from which to reject what they're told. They then grow up with imprinted ideas that often follows them for the rest of their lives. The Catholic church understands this well. They say give them a child until they are 6? or 5? and they will be Catholic for life. Also very true of inexperienced developing minds. The human mind if developing still until around 26 years old.
I know this is long, but it's difficult to be brief with ideas and situations that are not well accepted or even considered.
What is afflicting the USA isn't just in the USA, it's world wide. A focus on the USA because it's a more difficult nut to crack. We have a very protective Constitution, against government corruption and outside influences breaking in. We have people conditioned to be independent and free thinking.
Media inside the US attacks the US. School and College attack the US and the Constitution. I see foreign countries people have opinions and it's obvious what they're being fed in media and socially. Doesn't match what I see here. The UN reverse engineering studies to degrade the appearance of US quality of life and other areas. One example is education. UN placed free preschool very high in determining quality of life. Studies show that preschool isn't helpful and may in fact harm the process of education in children who are at that age still imprinting on their parents and more learning from their domestic environment. Removing them stunts this development which is an important foundation to build on in later years. The UN is an extremely corrupt organization and it's leaders have always been for sale. Saddam Hussein bought them and they allowed him to build arms while starving segments of his population to the point many died, many many died and others were completely miserable. Except those Sunnis who backed him. He allowed Arab interests to fool the Palestinians into camps where they were brain washed and many tortured and killed. The UN seems like a great idea, but in practice it's for sale to those who can afford to bribe it's leaders. Always has been and probably always will be. Most governments are no better except they are held more accountable by their citizens. That's how it works, and why a one would governing organization would probably be such a bad idea in practice. In the US the more control the Federal Government has over all states to dictate their policy the worse over all corruption gets. The Department of education is a great example. A lot of parasitization in the system, school expense has multiplied many times, effectiveness is way down. More local control gives more accountability. Though a governing body is nice to have if one area starts up with brutalizing a segment of the population.
This is getting very long O_O but things are not simple and understanding what is foreign isn't easy. The principals are understood generally, but applying them to the situations takes examples. Actions take information to identify the actors if it's not readily investigated by others, and we really don't have good media and reporting right now. That is pretty much dead.
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SailingSeignior Check out the Chicago death count. This thing in Cali is just a weekend in Chicago. What caused this? What will help? Gun control won't help.
What is the common factor in most murderers in the US? They've been on public assistance. Since this all started and majority of black people were sold out by their leaders, who became millionaires, 500% rise from even par then to now in murder rate. It's even worse than that, because black people not caught up in that parasitical dependency doom don't contribute to the statistic, so it's watered down.
Black lives matter, whipped up by false sense of attack on black people which is made up by the media when it's not statistically supported. The numbers have not gone up, they've reduced. The Prog media machine whipping up unfounded anger (with amazingly consistent timing to election cycles) and lying to do it. Like Travon Martin, picture of 12 year old kid, omission and distortion of facts of the case calculated to cause division and bad blood. Calling Zimmerman a "White Mexican" I mean come on. Their omission of the prosecutorial misconduct in what was a completely groundless prosecution of Zimmerman to push the issue. They fucked up Zimmerman's life, a guy protecting the neighborhood who was attacked by an athletic strong basically adult. A guy Zimmerman could have never chased down. And Michael Brown, The way they handled that. His picture the most innocent looking one they could get. Inflammatory speculation and misleading information about the circumstances. Several police have been targeted and murdered. We know it's because of this inflammation which was deliberately whipped up to divide and keep black people down by dependence and a feeling of persecution, and thus voting Democrat.
Progressives denied the right to self defense in the San Bernardino situation. In almost every mass murder situation we can name. All in gun free zones.
Even French officials admitted the only way they could have cut way down on the murders in France, was if citizens were armed.
Progressives now want to take away means of self defense and bring in 100,000s of unvetted military aged males who follow a book which they see as the perfect word of Allah, which commands complete genocide of all non believers. Also gives exemption from our laws. If we all have no guns and comply with the law (the law abiding will) do you think they will? On their way to 100% genocide?
Progressives have an aversion to empirical information. A love of propaganda. There is a good reason for this. The reality doesn't work for their desired laws and policy. The goal isn't what is stated. I'm talking about the uber Rich calling their shots, and their lap dogs like Obama.
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SailingSeignior Look into how ISIS was armed. Obama policy armed them while attacking Assad, who was attacking THEM. They got weapons which were in Libya. Obama and company took out Qaddafi in Libya which was running pretty well. Soros was in Libya working for something with Qaddafi that failed right before Obama and others pushed a revolution. Same in Egypt and Soros helped the Muslim Brotherhood to power. Comes to Iranian uprising which is legitimate and against crazies? Obama took a pass and let many die in Iran, who are our extreme enemy. Huge resource for terrorism, and instigators of it.
Something stinks in here someplace. We need to find it and get rid of it. The something that stinks has a face of Obama in the US and a body of very powerful people backing him up, like Soros, Jarrett, basically a US movement which was started and is perpetuated and aided by a world wide movement with people wealthy enough to bribe colleges to the tune of Billions and feel the investment in what we've seen happening in Colleges, is a good one. Same movement that pushed the EU (Soros was big in that too). Same movement that's importing huge numbers of Muslims into EU countries who are causing so much mayhem, rape, murder, torture and death. Funny, it's not being reported in the media world wide until something big all at once happens in France. The cumulative problems going on in Europe from this are much larger than the attacks in France. Just something that could be ignored, like murder numbers in major US cities, with gun control.
Reagan and co did arm Iran, but they armed them against Iraq which was a larger threat. Good or bad? Ehh ... hard to say until things shake out and we know the other influences effects.
Obama and co is arming our enemies. Funding our enemies. Against those who were holding them back from mass murdering non Muslims. IMPORTING OUR ENEMIES. People who say they are our enemies. We shouldn't believe them or what?
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DirtFlyer You realize Islam isn't a race right? lol.
And ... my problem with how black people as a group have been used by Progs isn't a race issue, or limited to black people. It's just that they've been the heaviest target since Democrats lost the efforts to keep them down and went the soft slavery root. Want to see racism? See how Progs treat minority republican candidates or appointees. They are desperate to keep the division powered by a false narrative. Suggesting that somehow the long Republican goal of equal somehow equates to racism. I'm not a Republcian, because they have other issues I have a problem with, but as far as the race issue goes, they are the best Party for people's societal health, by far, because the former Democrats taken over by Progs, are horrendous. Check out the results.
I have a problem with the lies that divide. It's at the core the worst thing that's happening to our country right now. The division. It happens to be what is best for the Progressive Movement. Or as I've long called it, before Dave was ever involved with the Young Turks, Regressive Movement.
My kids are also less white than Obama. Race means nothing to me. I like the Martin Luther King axiom. Not color, character should be basis for judgement. Again, what would be great for the country, bad for the Prog movement.
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SailingSeignior right, it's not the believing that makes something true. It's checking things out and following facts, that leads to understanding.
It's not dismissal of things foreign or unwanted that determines their validity.
I'm a true agnostic, and a very curious one. I want to understand, but don't buy anything until I see evidence. No religion, no political party, and I've learned not to trust media. I listen to a lot of media, but to get leads into what I can look into and information to test against verifiable fact. Also strong theories based on patterns of behavior and associations, mo.
You don't know what I'm talking about it seems, but I do.
Black murder rate was par, fact (I hate when people do this, lol). Black populations were targeted for government programs, fact. Being given what's needed in life for no effort has an atrophicational effect (as to ability to compete and survive in the world) on probably any mammal especially, probably to some degree on any animal. This is not a vague theory, and it's usefulness is well known. After the targeting for government programs, to present black murder rate is up 500%, from before it started, fact.
The basis for understanding this was deliberate involved volumes of information and history, but it was. Drugs were pushed into black neighborhoods. Media pushed a theme that would create separation. Uncool to trust or work for "the man". Drugs had an underground following, but they were hyped as cool. Later gang culture hyped as cool, to the point white kids wanted in too. Cultural themes were developed and fostered in entertainment venues. Black liberation theology was invented and millions were pushed into black churches by progressive operations. (billions are being pushed into churches in general right now, Soros is involved). Men were separated from families as a requirement to obtain Welfare.
To ignore some of this as natural phenomena without intelligent source, ok. All of it? With such calculated implementation, when the methods of creating dependent power blocks are so well documented and ingrained in the progressive movement? Naw, it's overwhelming. Read the book Propaganda, read Saul Alinski, Mao, Eugenics and Margaret Sanger. Check up on what purpose Acorn was created for and how they interacted in this. Understand these people who inform the Progressive movement also created the KKK. Read JFK's writings which seemed pretty out there. Understand how JFK switched from blocking Republicans fight for equal rights to embracing it and going against his party and the power behind it.
You can dismiss what you don't understand, it's easy. Repel what you don't want to be true from your mind. It's the path of least resistance. It's what ignorant people have always done when faced with what they don't take the effort to understand.
Do I take your dismissal personally? No, it's normal. I do see you as taking effort to think on some subject though. It's important we see through what is put in front of us, because if we are to have any sort of decent existence power people have collectively must be turned from the manipulation by a few, and focused on reality. Right now that power is being masterfully manipulated. Resources taken and applied back in areas to gain support. Division pushed. Bribery of the public, and it's not just a short term thing. The kind of investment laid out to make this situation work doesn't come without an expected return.
How does importing what Muslims represent fit in? Why all of the lies about what they believe? The world wide media "insanity" to paint them as what they are not? To gain support? It doesn't come from no where does it?
Government gains power from our problems we think we need them to fix. They gain power from division and groups supporting them to push their own agenda against others pushing their agendas. What obstacles do they face? Constitutional restrictions created to fight the natural government corruption, mainly.
How would they get these things that help them accomplished by bringing in trouble? Something that on it's face is extremely stupid? Seems pretty obvious, doesn't it. As does the coordinated efforts world wide, and the players.
Muslims are being imported into Europe and in many areas creating a hellish situation. Committing an extreme amount of rapes. Government that pushed feminism and sensitivity ignores THESE rapes? Very often gang rapes? Brutal degrading disgusting rapes? It seems insane, and media covers for it all over the world. How does this happen?
An indicator in the middle of all this, George Soros. A man who's brought down several countries and caused immeasurable misery. Supports radical gay rights and the fucking sick parades that push division (Tides) ... at the same time supporting and pushing disinfo to cover for mother fuckers pushing gay people off roofs, and burning them alive and all kinds of other vile shit. Why? Pushing open borders, EU, and so many other leverages. He obviously isn't alone, his billions don't amount to a drop in the bucket of what's been spread around to make things work. Where did he get his billions? Who participated with those kinds of resources?
These things don't make sense alone, seem crazy, right? I can tell you, what I'm saying here didn't come from some crazy site, though I've investigated many claims. I'm not someone to believe without solid information. Facts go where they go if you follow. If you don't, it pretty much seems insane.
The NSA building a huge facility in remote Utah ... what could it be? It's a facility to monitor the population, what else could it be? That seemed insane, conspiracy lunacy. But Damn! that's exactly what it is. The crazy shit got real, because we had simple solid proof. Do you think that's the only instance of this type of thing? People look into it and say HEY! others laugh and say it's not credible, it's laughable. That's really how people usually work. It's not something that's missed by people who'd like to control populations.
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SailingSeignior If you take a good look into history, I mean real history. Not the history that says there was a time when the enlightened ones were Muslim, because that's a lie, but real history backed up by scientific investigation as much as that's possible. Zionism, culminating in Christianity, was responsible for much of the paradigm shift. Not to mention the belief in going to hell for bein bad.
In many cultures, like American Indian (where actual history defies what we are mainly taught) morality was different and basically only existed among tribe members, much like Islam. They'd cook children on spikes shoved up their asses, alive. They murdered to get what they wanted. They took slaves. Rape of outside women was normal.
I like the standards which were pretty much set up by Zionist sources ... but hell, I grew up around that.
Different upbringing and pervasive behavior around a person really does dictate how people act the vast majority of the time.
I call it bones in the nose, sticks on the dicks syndrome. Everything that is around forming people's perception is seen as normal.
That's kind of the basis of the effectiveness of Propaganda. Freud's nephew Edward Bernays, a progressive, wrote the book. It's about how to control people in groups, how they think and react. Hitler / Goebbels used it to great effect in Nazi Germany. Goebbels loved that book and gave it much credit for his success in getting people to accept what was done to Jews, Gays, and other groups.
I saw you were a little uninformed there, couldn't help myself ;)
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K. De Metter Atheism is not just the absence of belief. It's an ism. If there were no theism, there would be no atheism. There is no similar involving things that don't exist, because no one would have thought to ism such a non thing.
Atheism is a protest of theism. It's belief in a negative. Practically it's an anti establishment protestation in the form of ism. The Atheists who don't like to admit this fact created new definitions for Atheism to avoid the inherent irrationality, thus hypocrisy (as it is mainly a protest of theistic hypocrisy, displaying like characteristics) of the true position.
If ones position isn't an anti position, and a belief, it's a faith because you can't prove it. If one simply does not believe and is rational about it, agnostic is the correct label, but then they wouldn't run around cherry picking and propagandizing against religion and take a more objective approach in the description of theism.
Now the real about what Atheism really is, as applied by Atheists to Theists. They seek to shame and embarrass Theists. It's become a nasty tudinal group of bullies, a mob mentality hate thing, not just a lack of belief. If that level of judgement is good enough to apply to theists, they should be judged by their own standards, right? Hypocrisy is a negative, right?
I'm not theist, and they often bug me, but I don't use cherry picked dirt and seek to defame them. They are what they are, and I'm rational about their deficits as well as contributions. I have no motive to paint them, or anyone ugly. I'm agnostic, lack of belief is what I've got. I'm nothing like Atheists in action or dogma. I really don't want them being confused with me and my rational philosophy, or me their philosophy of hate.
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@mahmudali4872 What I'm saying is well documented. Radical Islam (The Muslim Brotherhood sect anyway for sure, probably Wahhabi also) is a creation of and tool of Globalists. They've been funded, organized, and helped politically and sold weapons for near a century. Don't try to pull your "you can't know Islam" bullshit on me (takia or whatever) It's been translated, and anyway, the information I've given has NOTHING to do with Islam the Religion (cult) it's history buckwheat. If you are a Muslim, these Globalists are not your friend. They use people and throw them away, usually after mass murder. I know more that that, but that's not for here as the origins of Islam isn't what this is about. Some people think Islam is evil, irredeemable, but I'm defending Muslims, don't you get it? It's not Muslims who are the problem, it's horrible people who've promoted evil to keep Muslims from advancing with the rest of mankind. To use them to create hell on earth so the Globalists will be looked to to solve the problems. It's their old pattern. You know, a detailed documentary wouldn't be a bad idea. People should understand what all is going on.
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@danielhutchinson6604 Soros is the public face of those Globalists. To see what they're up to watch his orgs and those connected world wide. Yes, big media, academia, entertainment and more info disseminating institutions have been coopted, and do distribute propaganda that is for those Globalists purposes. Rothschilds are the core. Cecil Rhodes was their Soros of his time. Media was already heavily influenced then. Rhodes appeared to own DeBeers, but he was a face in that as well.
You can doubt, but until you really dig in, you don't know enough for basis to support a valid opinion. Until then it's just throwing out narratives you thing sound best.
CFR and Bilderberg group have had a profound propagandizing effect on information. Those orgs were created by Globalists. Zbigenew Zabrinski is credited as the brain behind those. Morning Mika's father. Zbig and Soros were in the Middle of destroying countries many decades ago. Yugoslavia, Kosovo, up to more recently Venezuela, Doing Chile now. Before their time? Rothschild cartel did the Nazi revolution. Actually took Hitler to their Tavistock mental institution and sent him back to take over, with a minder. They created and funded the Russian Bolshevik revolution. Backed Mussolini, FDR's "Mentor" as he put it. Woodrow Wilson was their guy, renewed their Central Bank Charter in the USA after Jackson "Routed them out".
You didn't get this info in College. What you got was pretty much pure propaganda. Academia has long since been coopted and purged of voices willing to teach truth. Academia's Economic curriculum is a convoluted mess. Actual Capitalism is merely free market economics minus the organized criminal corruption by government controlling entities.
Warburg (Globalist OG) did invent (or is credited with) the modern money system, which works excellent. It's brilliant. It's the ones who control it and keep control by bribery and blackmail, extortion and many murders, who are the problem.
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The "Fed" knows what will be a problem. They have the smartest people working for them, and the population as a group is extremely predictable. The Fed creates the problems, they're not shocked and reacting. If you keep buying the BS in the articles based on false pretexts your videos will be ridiculous, but I guess a lot of people buy it. Very little that happens surprises them, because they create most of it. The same bunch owns and controls central banks in nearly every country in the world. That's not speculation, it's just fact. Huge natural disasters are tiny in effect, and easy to deal with. Wars happen, they are right behind most of them. Covid19? They planned it, and were behind it's creation as a bio weapon. Think that's far out? Keep watching how it happened as it comes out, don't move on and forget it. Covid was not a disaster, it was a useful manipulation.
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@stephanieanderson1924 The biggest problem is the guys using Soros as their face. Infesting the USA as well as Canada, which Russia is worried about, because they infest Ukraine and their POS corrupt puppet President who's similar to Macron, and Trudeau in their ties to Globalists. Yes those Globalists are working with China as an ally. Every country allowing the COVID19 play, in which China was key, has a real problem. Worry about post USSR Russia while infested with Globalists is nonsensical, except we're so accepting of the BS from Media and Governments that are infested and largely controlled by Globalists.The Globalists were fine with USSR, where Russia was Globalist controlled. Now Russia is the threat while they work heavily with China? Worked on the COVID19 Bio Weapon and all that followed it's deliberate spreading. The major danger state in the world, is China. We are forcing Russia to ally with China. The West broke it's deal with Russia and installed the Canadian puppet the media is making a hero of, as President of Ukraine. You've left the most vital players out of your plan.
Going into all the destruction and current destructive moves by Globalists would take too long. Just a few samples, BLM and AntiFa, the New Brownshirts, Globalists. The destruction of Chile going on right now? Globalists. The Propagandization and destruction of Canada? Globalists. The removal of Mubarak, Kaddafi, and the attack of Assad? Globalists. The destruction of food all over the world leading to starvation? Globalists through their World Bank and IMF. Destruction of Mexican ag and the horrible state of Mexico, mostly Globalists. Go back to Germany, Globalists backed and funded Hitler. The Bolshevik Revolution, Globalists fostered and funded. Cuba? Globalists at least helped them with propaganda, probably more I can't prove. The great conspiracy world wide JFK began to out, days before they killed him, Globalists. Read his speech, I think you can still listen to it.
When I talk about Globalists, the Rothschild Cartel, I'm not talking about Jews. They hate Jews and Christians, and there is no religious Judaism involved. Soros hates Jews, his father hated Jews and joined the cult of Esperanto in WW1. Soros is a cult member, one of a few native speakers of the language. Globalists are brilliant, no soul, co corrupt and corrupting, very hard to fight, but, they are the enemy destroying the countries and people of the world. Wars without taking them into account are just playing into their hands. When they put up a hero in a politician like Zalinski? You know he''s working for them. When they attack a leader like Trump? like Reagan? You know he's a threat to what they've built. Follow Soros orgs and moves, that's what they're doing now.
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You can drop a chicken in pot of close to boiling water for a bit and the feathers are easy pluckin after. You can also do the lazy, cook it with the feathers cut off, and it's easy to pull out the quills. The food people been lying to us. Chicken skin and fat is VERY GOOD for us. It's a problem when you eat sugar at the same time. Chicken skin is also soooo tasty. Cook a chicken in pieces in a cast iron skillet, start hot and then cook for a couple hours really low, YUMMY.
I got lost in the woods on a backpacking trip (I was always distracted by cool stuff, lol) By the time I found the troop I had 2 fool hens on my belt. Hit them with pieces of wood, branches, thrown. Easy. That was the year Elvis died. We were at Champion Lakes in Idaho. We heard it on the radio at the lake.
With those grouse you can rip off the feathers easy, and burn off the fuzz. Skin is good food brother. Fat is so important, just don't eat it with sugar. White Sugar causes skin cancer in reaction to the sun and all kind of problems. No, I'm not crazy, I just learned stuff commercial media won't tell you because they'd piss off big advertisers. That's how Milk got on the damned food pyramid, and they said you should eat so much grain. It's not good for ya.
This was great, Thanks Man. I enjoy watching your stuff.
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lol, the fed does what they want to get results they want. Speeches are gaslighting. Covid wasn't a shock, it was known and scenarios played out before Covid was released deliberately. That wasn't even a well kept secret. The fed owners are the core of all of that. Sounds crazy until you understand who they are, and that WEF is their org, One of many, like the UN, IMF World Bank, and many more like CFR ect ... Soros is their guy. You read a lot of material that obfuscates those facts, but your arranged false perception doesn't change what is real, except in your mind, and of course masses of minds like your's. Yes disasters are an unknown unpredictable to them (though they understand how people will react and actually have plans on how to use those disasters) but Covid was a planned bio attack that originated in and by US globalist assets. and through China. Maybe through more areas, but I don't see proof of that. The economic pain is a planned manipulation, hunger and poverty is leverage. The "measures" are what they wanted to do all along, but they needed pretexts to keep from being understood, and creating uncontrollable backlash,
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The prices of homes have been pushed up from several different fronts. You see lumber prices, and much of that is bullshit environmentalism based on fraud, not science, like the spotted owl. At the same time local governments have been coached to push over regulation to make it harder and more expensive to drill wells and build. Also building codes are shielded from the public unless they buy the codes, so they have to guess what they have to comply with, so a person can't plan a home.
Speculation was encouraged by almost no interest rates to some huge corps, like insider (same circles as owners of the Fed and other Central Banks) in many areas investors were way over 30% of home buying, and if you look at the areas they're highest, the also affect areas around those cities, where people move out and buy less expensive homes, that have increased, but are less expensive than the super inflated homes, so it covers a lot if not all of the country.
Agenda 31, which is real and published. Boils down to "You will own nothing and be happy". Agenda 21 is what we've seen push up prices and destroy food resources.
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Socialism isn't a mistake, it's always a TRAP! Socialism is instituted by uber wealthy would be Oligarchs who take control
of Information. They work to control Media, Entertainment, and Academia. They play on people's greed like a baited trap.
Every mass murdering scumbag leader have been loved by Media, Entertainment, and Academia. EVERY ONE.
Info sources loved Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Mao, Castro/Che, all mass murderers of millions, and Chavez.
Carter Clinton & Obama were chosen and supported by the Bilderberg group, and they pushed to the destruction of the USA.
Info Institutions LOVED THEM and LIED to support them. while hating all others. JFK was a problem, he started out as a
scumbag made by Globalists, but he turned on them and informed about their moves and threatened to out them. JFK was
finally called a traitor, a Russian Collaborator. Demonstrations of idiots in the streets yelled about him like they did Reagan
and do Trump. Then JFK was murdered and it wasn't by one guy. He was betrayed by his security detail. Don't think Trump
didn't take note. He used his own people to set up security, while the FBI CIA & others worked to take him down, and would
no doubt kill him if they could. Media, Entertainment, and Academia all pushed the idea that someone should kill him.
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Check "The Still Report" on YouTube, latest video. People knew this was coming. The shooter was AntiFa and he worked for the IRS & (not in that report) did special government ops similar to fast & furious. This is the people YOU support in government pulling this shit. The Deep State. It's a move to motivate the population to accept extreme government security. Same kind of moves they're doing in the EU. This isn't just about the US, it's about the West, and a lot to do with the world. Killing off all the Muslim leaders who protected minorities, which George Soros was into, with Obama & Hillary Clinton was part of all this. Soros emails were leaked, wikileaks, you can read them. Very informative, if you choose not to be a Mushroom. But hey, keep buying the modern equivalent to Goebbels, pushing hate, and ugly solutions. See how that shit works out.
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Truth? Democrats are Progressives. Progressives were created by Globalists who created the Fabian Socialist Society / LSE to spread propaganda.
The Fabian's are Globalist's spawn created through Cecil Rhodes, the Soros type public face of Globalists of his day. They came to the US to create the Progressive Movement to undermine the US constitution and to get Globalists Central Bank Charter back. That happened, they called it the "Fed" which is propaganda in language, much like calling that regressive movement to undo US Progress on human rights and freedoms, Progressive.
Democratic Party is about division. It's about power away from the people, for the elite. The benevolence the Democrats attempt to portray while lying about others to label them evil (which is what the Democratic party is) is a LIE. The Democratic party is pushing an agenda of bondage of the people, using lies, to give power to Globalists.
A good example of who is doing what? is the EU, and looking into who has been pushing the NAU. George Soros is the face of Globalists. They are pushing these consolidations of power AWAY from the people.
They collect the powerful politically, in Media, and very wealthy and give them great benefit to go along, or destroy them if they don't. They use their power in Media, and the Justice systems, as was done to Bill Gates, and more recently Rupert Murdoch because they bucked their agenda in different ways and didn't do what furthered Globalist's agenda. THAT is the core of what we need to understand about Democrats and Republicans who go along with the Globalist agenda for money or because they are compromised in other ways.
Tulsi is a Democrat who spread's lies about Trump that the Globalist tools, the Democrats, have dishonestly spread against Republicans in a propaganda offensive to erase their own past by accusing them of what Democrats history is. This while continuing to divide through hate propaganda. The same techniques US Progressives taught the Nazis, who were created as a power by who? Globalists. As was the Muslim Brotherhood and the Bolshevik Revolution. Always violent and oppressive, based on lies and hate, and the Collectivist bait. Offering money or resources or labor stolen from others who didn't go along.
Understand, Globalists have nothing to do with Jews as a race or as a religion. Globalists are from many backgrounds, like Rockefeller's ... Methodist. The Globalists, even those with Jewish Blood, like Soros and the Rothschild's tend to hate Jews, like they hate Christians. or at least push hate against them. Why? Jews and Christians have an individual rights centric philosophy which totally clashes with Globalist's plans of human subjugation and their own control of the world of people.
Tulsi, as good as she might sound in contrast to Democrat's normal hate propaganda, is a no go. She's a Globalist tool. She would be subject to Democrats which are brainwashed Globalist tools. Much like Propaganda brainwashed Germans who supported the Nazis were brainwashed Globalist tools. I hope Tulsi's heart is actually in the right place, and she can help some Democrats see the evil that the party has become so they can escape the propaganda cemented mental prison of Propaganda Induced Mass Neurosis, but her winning would help the Globalists, or she will not be allowed to win.
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You leave out our money via FED (Rothschild Cartel) filling the bubbles. Blackrock etcetera / "You will own nothing and be happy" ... oh, there it is. You use current ratios which are MUCH higher than usual of fed money (our money), and assume that's the constant and will not rise ... while ignoring the deliberate increase in local over regulation driven by the UN agenda 2022 is it? that makes everything housing so much higher cost. Oppressive codes, permitting requirements, materials costs pushed up deliberately like food costs / fuel costs and destruction of resources through nonsensical fraudulent regulation like the attacks on california water killing huge ag industry, the forestry "insanity" deliberate, and a push to take out reservoirs in Idaho and other areas. The inflation is manipulated / deliberate. Envirofraud and a number of pretexts used, not centered around reality, but creating scarcity of resources / mass poverty. That fits in with patterns in history used by the Rothschild Cartel, (yeah, the Fed owners, and owners of all central banks in the world but 2 countries) to destroy countries. (No, nothing to do with Jews or Judaism).
Rent is subsidized in Cali big time. Will be country wide. Objective is to destroy private ownership like it is to make food more expensive. Forcing Collectivism / Dependency on Governments / Control of the people by control of their basic needs. "You Will Own Nothing, and be happy" agenda 2030.
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I think you have conspiratorial and controversial mixed up, and that's exactly the goal with making conspiracy theory seem crazy, because conspiracy is much of what's going on in reality. Maybe look up the definition. Anyone really looking into the facts will say things the Globalists and their info outlets try to make sound crazy, because it's true and reveals what they don't want us to understand. Covid was created purposely, we know that. Was it released on accident or on purpose? The word from propaganda outlets is accidental, but when you look at timing and the FACT it was spread purposely? That as you said it was such opportune timing? The circumstantial evidence says yes, it was a planned deliberate and purposefully planned release. AND especially when you take into account the purposeful acts since? How COVID fit into the WEF stated goals? How they actually had plans for it? The evidence is over whelming. If you're looking at what happened, what's happening, and how it fits into UN and WEF goals? The chances of it being happenstance makes lottery odds look good. We should talk. I've been studying things since 92, and it started with media lying to us, they out themselves if you watch and pay attention and have any memory, and then why do they lie, and that's taken me places everyone should know. The people are the power, WWIII is about using us as tools of our enemies and against each other. COVID is part of it, starvation is part of it. Gullible Warming scam is part of it. Everything we get in trouble for talking about? Is part of it.
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What you REALLY need to understand, is all this talk about the Fed "Mistakes" is bullshit.
Understand. people in groups are one of the most predictable things in the world. That's why actuarial tables are so useful, and almost always right on.
Then understand that the people who work for the Fed are the smartest available.
Understand that the Fed is a private entity with a charter to run our central bank, and the same bunch runs almost every central bank in the world. I think 2 exceptions.
Understand that the Fed owners manipulate and get deeply involved in government policy to influence most aspects of our lives to manipulate world populations.
Understand that the Fed owners work very hard to buy and control our governments, and are working hard lately to even control local governments.
Understand that George Soros is the face of the owners of the Fed, AKA core Globalists. We can see what they're pushing by watching Soros involved entities, like BLM.
When you understand the goals of Globalists, who own the Fed, World Bank, IMF, and heavily influence our Governments, and pretty much control the UN? Things make sense. There is no stupid. There is profiteering, and manipulation for what end? Control, Power over the world and it's people.
Ask yourself why in all these Fed Manipulations do the ultra wealthy insiders come out gaining hugely in their wealth. Like the COVID bio weapon scam. Wealth gained huge, average people lost huge as a rule ... speaking of rules, the rules favored super wealthy compliant (call them fascist partners) and smashed the little guy. Accident? NOPE
So ... to be a competent investor / player in the markets, understanding what is behind all this, and skipping the bullshit (like what you're saying now) is the best way to predict what the Globalists will push, and the Fed (Globalists) policy. That is what moves and shakes the markets and trends. Including most wars.
Also understand, that unless masses of people understand what's going on and who's controlling their officials and policy against them, we're all screwed anyway. Like Venezuelans. Cubans. Chinese. more ... empoverishing the populations to more easily control them is the main tactic to the main goal. That means we're screwed. Unless.
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Fight them, they are defacto Utility. Yeah, go with Diamond & Silk. Pull Soros & Globalists into it and bust them out in court. Also, back up your video's and help work on another platform. I'm involved in another platform, Voat, and it seems like there is another one. It's not the Social Media that's evil, they're just poodies, it's Soros & his Globalist scum bags putting pressure on. We can apply reverse pressure if we have the balls and energy to really band together and do something. We need that in media too, TV news. I don't have much of a platform myself, but the Globs win OVER MY DEAD BODY. Their winning would make life on earth unlivable, so why not put it all out there and try to beat them?
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The USA worked so well because it's not based on serfdom, but individual rights. You can get involved in these books and build erroneous paradigms. First you need a foundation, to deal with these ideas. You don't have that. Education is only as good as the information, and today, the institutional sourced information is deliberately erroneous. Propaganda. A nation of slaves, which is what you're saying would be fine, is not the road to happiness. How do I know? History. The powerless masses lead horrible lives. The lack of personal gain leaves a void of motivation in almost all individuals, which leads to wide spread poverty. Suffering, hell on earth. We just had this play out in Venezuela. Went from very wealthy, to a horror show. People ate their pets. Then zoo animals, now they're lucky to get garbage to eat. That's what is planned for us. Same group working it, so many times. You want to read a good book? Road to serfdom. Listen to a wise economist not afraid to tell the truth? Thomas Sowell.
You're good when you stick to cause and effect. This video was a turn into dumb ass land :)) Flat earth can sound reasonable, if you don't know any better. Same with the communist machinations. Reality is pretty strait forward. Thriving in life is hard work. Take away incentive, people won't work hard enough and use their minds with enough effort, to keep the collective alive without horrible oppression. Slavery. It's how people are. Anthropology. The behavior has played out many times.
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@scottevans9454 Bilderberg Group wasn't around more than decades genius :)). I don't blame Jews for anything, and it's got nothing to do with Jews. What's with your idiotic supposition? You have no idea what I'm talking about, so shut the hell up and study. There are Jews involved, but that doesn't have anything to do with all Jews. There are non Jews involved. The Jews who are actually involved are not religious Jews, debatable if they're Jewish by Blood, they actually hate Jews & Christians, a good example is George Soros. I'm talking about where marching orders for influential people in government, media, academia. Now I don't know what they say in the meetings except a few quotes that got out, but I do know what the members push when they come back from meetings. I know George Soros is predominant in all those secret meetings that gather influence & try to tell them what to do. Go against them & you'll be attacked by legal systems in most countries if you live there. It's what happened to Rupert Murdoch, Bill Gates and others. They came back in line. Now I'm not 100% sure I'm right, in fact, I hope I'm wrong, but I've studied these things for decades and by process of illimination the directions to influence governments and institutions pretty much has to be coming from those meetings.
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Glen is a snake. He was digging up facts no one dared dig up, but he got some push back and cowered and turned against
the truth.It's about getting paid for him. Can't see it's anything else. The man lies about things he knows better. He was
railing on Globalists then he joined them. He joined Romney, and McMuffin for hell's sake. Romey was lying his ass off.
Then turns out his father did the same thing to Reagan as Romney tried to do to Trump. McMuffin is Globalist, Romney
obviously is as well. Their direction and inconsistencies expose that. Ben Shapiro changed his message in an inconsistent
way, for Billionaire backing. Pretty much the same pattern.
Glen likes to go cheap. He loves to say "BOTH SIDES!" but he says that about things which are not equal on both sides. He's
about appealing to masses who don't look too deep. I listen to him, because once in a while, from his research ,he says
something very valuable. He apologized and backed off on Soros. Soros is a bad guy, world wide manipulator against
good civilization. Soros emails exposed his direction of Obama & Clinton and their ugly campaigns where they supported
terrorists and destabilized the Middle East & Africa. Soros was involved in many attempts some successful like Egypt, for
a while, to take down every Muslim leader who protected minorities and Moderates. The Globalists before him fostered
and developed the Muslim Brotherhood, who the Globalists still work with. Obama brought those civilization destroying
bastards into the Administration. Obama admin funded terrorists and worked against those working to stop them. They
worked with Iran. All the bad people pushing hell in the middle east, and the people who fostered it who push the results
of that hell into the West to destabilize.
Check history. Hitler got great press. As did Stalin, Mussolini, Mao, Castro/Che, Chavez, Clinton and Obama as well who
were working against the country. I guess Carter could be included. He was hand picked by Z-Big Braz (Morning Mica's dad)
who worked heavily with Soros to cause the horrors in the Balkans and areas around. Any real investigation shows Soros
is a very bad guy, but he's only the face of an ugly influence, and he's also tied to groups who gather influence to control
influence and wealth in the world. Secret Societies, which were those Societies JFK warned about and threatened to out
before they killed him. JFK was an insider. Attended LSE which is the Economics Propaganda school which was the Fabian
Socialist Movement, which created the US Progressive Movement to undermine our Constitution and bring back the Central
Bank Charter which Jackson got denied from their charter. The same group has had 3 charters in the US. They bribe,
threaten, cause shit. Use media their factions control which always give great Media/Entertainment/Academia cover to
the worst people in the world, who they usually financially back as well. Those people is why we have to worry all the time
about politics. They keep it stirred up. They keep violence going, excusing it and trashing their targets when they fight back
in their near information monopoly.
That's what went on in WWII and probably most other wars. Definitely backing Hitler and the Bolshevik Revolution. Pushing
collectivism as a trap to gain support. Then when they won and those who won for them want the spoils, mass murder.
They're kinda big on mass murder.
Cecil Rhodes helped create the Fabian Socialist Movement. He also created DeBeers? No, he was a face like Soros. See who
financed it, who still owns it today. That's the people behind most of the destruction by war, in the world. Not just in the west,
but backing the Muslim Brotherhood and oppression in the Middle East and Africa. They wanted to set the world on fire so
the people and their leaders would come to depend on their entities. Their wealth stolen from the people. Their institutions.
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The FED is not trying to deal with asset inflation in the USA, they are CAUSING IT. Blackrock is an example. Buying up real estate using FED money that is created from nothing, inflating the whole housing market. The goal is a crash, as it was leading to 2008. They mislead about goals and leave people like you, discussing from a fig newton foundation. Not all false, but half truths leading to fallacious planned false conclusions. The owners of the US FED are the IMF, they are the World Bank, they are the central bank for every country in the world except 2 or 3 at this point. They manipulate, create situations like massive crashes, while they fund groups like AnitFa and BLM, world wide. Push socialism and division by religion, economic status, or whatever works, world wide and especially in target countries, though face men open operators. George Soros is the big one now. They teamed with Medical Corruption, China, and corrupted leaders world wide to push controls of people through COVID19. Actually pushing a bio weapon in non vaccine (DNA RNA) vaccines which will destroy natural immune systems. They push Gullible Warming. They created the UN which they mostly control, as planned. You can't get this through large media and they work hard to destroy info outlets which expose any part of this, including the REAL monetary movers and shakers and real plans and moves.
You've caught on to some of the tactics, but not the overt extremely well planned and carried out moves and more the goals they are working towards. 5 steps forward and one step back once in a while. Usually when you think government did something stupid? It's their influence deliberately creating desired situations (by them). "Conspiracy Theory" has a negative connotation and is an attackable theme, mostly created by? Take a wild guess. So people fear being labeled, and rightly so, but it shield's what's going on in an effective way. Like the wide illegitimate use of racism. Other isms. Bullshit phobias, as in you don't want your little boy being gas lighted and group thinked into thinking they're a little girl inside, and seeking sex change which parents are barred from weighing in on. Why do that? To create victim groups and divide the people.
You do well getting to the leaves of what's up, but you don't get to the roots as much as you'd need to to be really effective.
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Nigel Farage (Nigel tha Frage (as in Fridge, cause he's cool) is my brother since I first saw him speak. Candace is my sister. Brave spirits looking forward unselfishly for the people of the world. Fighting against an old tyranny which has created hate and wars, mass death and unbelievable human suffering, for a long time.
Globalists working a goal to enslave us all, and control the world. Those Globalists core group Funded Hitler, took him and shaped him in Tavastock institution they owned and made the Nazis a world power, supplying media favor, money, and military weapons. They created the Bolshevik Revolution.
Globalists Created the Muslim Brotherhood to take Muslim people & countries back to the 7th century and destroy the progress they were making. Much like they, through their puppet Obama & others (like Clinton) created ISIS.
Globalists create movements to destroy culture, decency, to separate people. Movements for example towards children being brainwashed to be transsexual and to allow brainwashed children to have actual sex change operations & hormone manipulating drugs. They through Soros orgs pushed the Gay Pride Movement as a disgusting display to divide the people.
Globalists suppressed Black people using their puppet's KKK (this has been going on for a long time, Cecil Rhodes, the Soros of his time, was a horrible racist) then when they were defeated by good people, they turned and showed themselves as a friend to black people, when they were the worst enemy. Johnson the KKK member as we've discovered pushed policy to soft slavery and removing fathers from black homes through economic incentives. A very predictable outcome of black men becoming much more likely to do violence and become felons. THEY KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING TO DESTROY BLACK PEOPLE.
Globalists created horrors around the world, then used those horrors as pretext to invasion of the rest of the world. The whole time making trillions collectively in war enterprise.
Watch them. George Soros is the public figure that does what Globalists need to do, while the rest stay out of the light of day.. Cecil Rhodes was the Soros of his day. He created the Fabian Society LSE economic propaganda school for Globalist leaders like Soros & many others (or he was the tool Globalists used, as they used him as the face of DeBeers). The Fabian Society created the US progressive movement to get their central bank charter back, which helps them control much through their payouts and currency manipulation where they make huge insider profits and control politicians and institutions through the power of creation distribution of currency and it's levels.
George Soros, a Jew? Not in any meaningful way as he hates Jews and Christians, and the other Jews involved have been made a focus though there have been many religions and races involved, the Rockefeller's were huge, and Methodist? The Globalist's big leaders HATE JEWS and HATE CHRISTIANS. They ally with Muslim sects they have influenced as throwbacks to an evil time in their history. Hitler and the Muslim Brotherhood were brothers in that they were Globalist creations.
Globalists and their spawn Hitler, were of course allies with Muslim Brotherhood in WWII. Moderate Muslims have been stifled and put through hell, and yes, they do exist. Globalists worked in the past decades to destroy any Muslim Leader who protected Minority Religion and Moderate Muslims who just wanted to live a civilized benevolent life.
Globalists, while some are Jewish, and many are not, HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH JEWS. Don't let them cow you from attacking them (the real enemy of decent civilization and decent people) by the false claim of racism. We can't afford to back off these scumbags, and expose them to the world. Because that is the win. That is their fear. That the people of the world see them for what they are, and what they've done. They are the big enemy of the world's people. We must expose them and bring them to account for their actions, or we are all screwed.
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Yes, Globalists created the EU, and tried to create the NAU to enslave the USA, Canada and others in the same way they did the EU. It's not a question. It was going on in the CFR, the push to North American Union. CFR & other Globalist meetings is almost surely where they push their dictates. Hand out rewards for loyalty, and work on punishments for those who buck their Globalist Goals. They use collective financial penalty. They use massive media power. They use Administrations they control like Obama's to attack through IRS and DOJ. This isn't just in the US, it's world wide. Rupert Murdock & sons were attacked by UK Courts. Soros takes pains to control the legal system as much as he can in about ever country, including UK & US. When a powerful person bucks the left like the founder of Microsoft did (forgot his name, lol) he was sued and brought to heel. Zuck was recently attacked. Soros wanted to buy Facebook, like their tools did Twitter and YouTube. Watch these people, see these Globalists, and spread the world. They'll attack you, but if you don't expose them they will destroy you and all other people in the world.
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Big Tech is the leaves of evil. Whacking at the leaves of evil won't get people anywhere over time. Big Media, Big Academia, Big Entertainment, Government Media, ALL Pushing out truth and pushing Globalist Propaganda ... Can they be stopped? Not by focusing on the tools / leaves of the tree of evil. What is the roots?
Big tech meets with Globalists. Twitter's Jack does. Zuck does (in fact Soros wanted to buy control of facebook, as if Zuck wasn't rigging things enough already). Google bought YouTube to destroy it's value to individuals putting out information. Twitter was obviously bought for the same reasons. I don't know how the core of Google got so Globalist controlled, but it is, obviously. This is not isolated companies or some isolated phenomena. This is Globalists controlling information as they've done in Media Academia and Entertainment. Governments have been infiltrated and their bureaucracies allow huge Globalist controlled concentration in media power, but smash little guys like Sinclair brodcasting from consolidating much at all. Recent whack (in an equal treatment way) FCC decision Trump yelled about.
We see what George Soros does through his organizations using common themes and goals world wide. They are pushed through CFR, Builderberg Group, and others for billionaires to be arm twisted. Rewarded for loyalty, and crushed for resistance.
THIS IS WORLD WIDE. Part of the world they have destroyed, the same group using governments they've infiltrated and their agents in the area, Muslim Brotherhood made huge a century ago, ISIS they created. They also made Hitler & the Nazis a power. The Bolshevik Revolution, and more. They destroyed the Balkans and other European civilizations.
Their media power backed Hitler Stalin Mao Mussolini Castro/Che Chavez & other nasty murderous leaders. Their banking manipulated economies and Soros got wealthy insider trading (Convicted in France). Their Global financial institutions World Bank/IMF along with the UN they have in their pockets by lining their officials pockets helped destroy countries agriculture.
The US funded Soros orgs destroying countries in South America with Socialism, and before Soros this was going on through other avenues.
The Roots of evil in the world are behind this, GLOBALISTS, who self label. This is not about Jews or Jewish religion. Their are many ideologies involved (at least expressed religion and race). In fact the "Jews" involved, like Soros & the Rothschild family tend to hate Jews and Christians. This is almost surely ideologically based as Jews and Christians are individual rights centric. They ally with Muslims because Muslim philosophy is against individual importance and rights. Hitler allied with his Globalist allies, the Muslim Brotherhood and they populated parts of the military for the Nazi moves.
People have been brainwashed around the world to see talk of Conspiracy as crazy (Much like the Nazis used the same sort of propaganda to label those who disagreed with the Nazis and knew they were an evil conspiracy, as insane) so there is a marked cowardous in speaking of the roots of evil behind their manifestation in the leaves. If we don't attack the roots, the human race is screwed as far as freedom and a decent meaningful life. Globalists would turn the world into a huge oppressive tyrannical state. They've shown cruel and ugly behavior when they've had the power to control people. Not fighting against these Globalists at their core means an ugly future for mankind. Worse than the world has ever seen.
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What's going on in media is corruption, and it's world wide. Talking about the USA in isolation doesn't give a good view of what's going on and who's pushing it. Wikileaks did a map of Media influencers who belong to Globalist meetups CFR (which started out working to gain control of as much media as they could) Bilderberg, and Trilateral Commission. It's very revealing about those connections.
Those are Globalist run meetings, Soros the face that's always prominent in each and many other meetings they have all over the world periodically, with billionaires and other influential people. That's just media, it's the same in US Academia which was gifted tons of money from European Globalists, and I assume it's the same with other western countries.
The same with Entertainment. I mean how glaringly biased and controlled in message can it be? World wide.
Our US regulatory system for media, FCC, has defacto made Propaganda the Law, and Truth almost illegal. Their bias towards Globalist friendly propaganda pushers is unavoidable. They seem to be rewarded for it, by entities friendly with Globalists.
GLOBALISTS, SOROS is their FACE. It has NOTHING TO DO WITH JEWS the PEOPLE OR the RELIGION. Globalists hate Jews and Christians. Jews and Christian's individual rights centric philosophies clash with their goals. To fight and win, you have to know what you're fighting. People need to stop being afraid of being called conspiracy theorists, because conspiracies are the rule, not the exception. People who would stigmatize the calling out of Conspiracies? Conspirators, yep.
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I'm Sean's audience too, even though his style bugs me, because he has good guests with a lot of info and I'm always looking for info. What you both need to understand? Who is trying to shut us all up, and why. It's Globalist organized crime which only thrives when they control all information. The idiots who buy into their information power are the same as the idiots in so many countries who've helped destroy their own country and ruin their own lives. BLM and AntiFa are same as the KKK and Nazi Brownshirts and Italian Blackshirts. The same source. Globalists, who created and funded the Bolshevik revolution and made the Muslim Brotherhood, and later ISIS. Who created the Fabian socialists who created the US Progressive movement. Those people who influence Media, Academia, Big Business, Entertainment, Billionaires, Politicians through a massive network. Who have meetings of CFR, Builderburg, Trilateral Commission and more like the Sun Valley Idaho Billionaire meeting to strategize and influence billionaire's power, promise rewards for going along, and punishments for not going along. Those people, Globalists, Soros is their public face right now. That is the organized criminal organization moving and shaking, and destroying culture, countries and people. They are the enemy we have to identify and fight. To show the light on, or they will destroy us all.
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Start grabbing lumber scraps at work, glue them together to make boards, and build a house. Not my idea man, Radar O'Reilly did it on Mash, with a Jeep.
Paying rent sucks your life's efforts. Sometimes you need to, but watch immigrants, the smart legal ones. The save like hell, work like hell, and negotiate like they're escaping hell. Because they are. It's like building speed in an airplane to take off. Once you get some air, it takes so much less energy to soar. Paying a bank loan, do it fast, pay extra. Paying someone else's mortgage isn't helping you, less than making a banker rich. The Radar O'Reilly story was for fun, BUT, that's the mindset to crawl up from down. Your life isn't done. Markets will probably change. Be ready, be getting ready, and watching. Buying now is insane, except rates are low on inflated property. If you can find a deal? A situation? It can be golden. If not? Buy low after this crash, and pay it off like a mad man. Expend effort for a big win.
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DAVE! The acceptance of a false foundation on leftism is the problem. It's not what you think. It's never been. The left is a lie, that's all it ever was. The whole right left metric is based on bullshit. THE LEFT WAS CREATED BY? WOULD BE, AND HAVE BEEN, TOTALITARIANS.
They gain support by justifying robbery of others efforts. They've always backed one form of slavery or another. Their kind and gentle front was nothing but a facade at the upper levels which has been manipulating through the "left" illusion for actually centuries now. They've always baited the greedy lazy people with dreams of being taken care of and an easy life, but when they "win" it's hell on earth. ALWAYS HELL ON EARTH.
These people who've formed into prevalent groups backed Hitler, created the Nazis as a power. Used their contrived and brutally gained info (media academia entertainment) power to create a fan base of Hitler and the Nazis in the world, and they've repeated this. Goebbels network of propaganda was a microcosm of what they work on world wide.
They created the Muslim Brotherhood as a power, to destroy advancement in the Muslim world. The Muslim Brotherhood of course allied with Hitler. They funded and basically created the Bolshevik Revolution, which created mass murder and an extremely evil situation in Russia with the Soviet Union. What do all the mass murdering leaders of their own people have in common? From Hitler, to Mao, Stalin Mussolini Castro/Che Chavez and others? They've all used the COLLECTIVIST BAIT, which didn't originate with Carl Marks. Who created the Fabian Socialist Society? Who and what was Cecil Rhodes the face of? (he created the Fabian Society with others) The same group George Soros is the face of. The same group JP Morgan was the face of. Harriman the railroad guy. They were shell's for Globalists (which has NOTHING to do with Jewish people or the religion, in fact they tend to hate Jews and Christians because of their individual rights centric philosophy). Don't forget Maurice Strong, the father of the modern climate scam which he invented to create more central power in the UN, which Globalists created and always control.
Who created the Progressive Movement in the US? And why? The Fabian Socialist Society did, to subvert the US Constitution, and immediate goal was to gain back the Central Bank Charter in the US, which has been on and off since George Washington agreed to it because Globalists funded the Revolution (while creating the problems leading to the Revolutionary War (demanding payment with interest for previous funding) and funding the British war against the colonies, but they were powerful in Britain because? They'd funded previous wars and gained a central bank charter and with it great power in Britain). "The LEFT" is their lie. It's propaganda.
Actual Liberals didn't spring from this Left Facade. They were the ones who wrote the Magna Carta. They wrote the US Constitution. They are for freedom, and power of the common man over their leaders. They are the ones who advocated and demanded an armed powerful populous. "The Left" reality is anathema to these Liberal principals, while feigning to be the founders of them, and at the same time plotting to destroy them and implement Oligarchic Totalitarianism. Basically world wide slavery with a few leaders who are Kings over the world of people. UNDERSTAND THIS BASIC AND TRACEABLE REALITY (through facts, not through any literary works I know about) and what doesn't make any sense, makes perfect sense and the world events and crazy ideas being pushed also make perfect sense. It's what's going on. It's taken me decades to figure this out, and once you see it, it's so simple and it fits, but my Paradigms molded by education and cultural propaganda couldn't allow me to see it for so long.
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You figured some things out, but not this one. Study the whole situation before putting out this type of counter reality garbage. Not all vaccines are created equally like not all drugs are. Covid is a manufactured Bio Weapon deliberately released world wide. For what? For what we see happening. The wealthy made tons of money, other business was destroyed. A good indicator of who's manipulating what.
The rates also must include what? NATURAL IMMUNE SYSTEM RESPONSE, which you? TOTALLY IGNORE. Your data is therefor a? FRAUD
The data you talk about is "Lying with Statistics". COVID numbers are lies, inflated. You also act as if there are no other factors besides the vaccines, but Israel is the most heavily vaccinated country, they're doing about the worst. Haiti resisted, as did a country in S America. Both leaders dead, Haiti just had an assassination. The leader who exposed the tests of being bullshit (finding covid19 in fruit and live stock) "died" and the inventor of the PCI test he said was being misused to facilitate fraudulent numbers? He "died" too.
The "vaccine" was in works before the "escape" of COVID19. which because of timing, the players motives, and the situation being expedient ... was DELIBERATE BIO WEAPON ATTACK. The vaccine which messes with out natural immune system's ability to adapt, is Part II ... by the same scumbags who did part one.
The "vaccine" wasn't tested. The death rate, the real death rate, even including the fraud in including everything they could, or even what they couldn't in the fraudulent death numbers DID NOT CONSTITUTE an EMERGENCY. The problems from the government action because of the COVID19 Con are worse than the COVID19 deaths.
The same entities who are pushing the immune system disabling vax are the ones who forced medical journals to lie, through extortion, to suppress use of highly effective drugs like HCQ with almost no side effects, but they LIED. They pushed the new Rendezivere (spelling) which didn't improve mortality rate, is very expensive, and has nasty side effects, and was rushed through the FDA (which is mostly funded by Pharma Corps, HELLO?) like the bullshit "vaccines" which are highly ineffective. A high ranking official in the industry (Geert Someone) came out and warned of the new "vaccines" destructive effect on our natural immune systems.
So John, you're one of the asshole fraud's or go along IDIOTS who you often rail against. Is this one too big for you? Did you bow to the intimidation over this bullshit? Or did you get paid like the POS actors we see on TV pushing the COVID propaganda?
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to tim neeson
The Climate Consensus? That's a tell right there. You don't research, you group think. The masses have been wrong
far more often than right about such issues. The Climate Alarm is a known scam. NOAA lies about historical data.
Tony Heller is on YouTube. He shows the actual data, and where the Climate scam people LIED.
CO2 has never caused heating. It's 400 parts per Million. It's been over 1000 parts per Millions and didn't affect
the temps in any meaningful way. What more CO2 does is helps flora grow, huge benefit. optimal is around
1000 ppm. Which is only one part in 1000, what we have now is about 1 part in 2500.
YOU laugh at people who believe in something they can't prove, when "science" can't prove their assertions as to
creation. YOU believe in fraud called Science, because more people agree on it, like they did when Science said
the universe revolves around the earth. You believe in what has been proven fraud. To someone who knows what's
going on? You appear quite foolish. Throwing scorn and derision at good people who do believe what they can't
prove (some make me cringe sometimes with the fanaticism) but are much more grounded in reality than you are.
Kanye isn't on top of every truth, but he's genuine, and he sees truths people should see. One of his quotes is
quite centered in an important question. If you were the only one who believed what you believe, would you still
believe it? That cuts to a weakness in human cognitive process. One exploited by propagandists, to our
detriment. It's group think, heavily exploited by evil people who want to lie to us.
Big Media/Entertainment/Academia basically taken control of by ugly folks who would control people. They pushed
Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Mao, Castro/Che, all ugly mass murderers of their own people. They back the Climate
Scam, which is a huge con. They hate Donald Trump. What you believe doesn't appear to be from learned facts.
It appears from your post to be about consensus. What others believe. That is a historically huge folly.
How history repeats, because of our own weaknesses and the willingness of some to exploit those.
Are Democrats or the left in other countries looking out for Minorities? or Poor? Nope, they've always used them.
They've never made things better. They've taken credit for the good works of those who opposed them. They've
laid blame on those who helped the weak for what THEY THEMSELVES DID, and DO.
Collectivists are always lead by evil people. Weak ignorant people subject to greed, like mice who take
the bait in a mouse trap because they can't resist. It's very effective, but it's always been used by evil people who
would control the masses, and they never keep their promises. When those they duped insist, they mass murder, and
or oppress in the extreme.
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lol Stossel, you used to be a complete idiot, you've turned SOME of that around. Some subjects you just don't dig into deeply, and you do say some ignorant stupid things. I expect better of you. You've come so far, challenge your paradigms and dig for the whole truth. The whole effect positive or negative.
With Ukraine? Trump is the top law enforcement officer, and our DOJ has been seriously corrupt. Going after Republicans, never Democrats. Our CIA, IRS,. State Department the same. Evidence was offered to our DOJ by Ukraine of some of their people messing in our election, against Trump, for Hillary. The DOJ refused it. The Ambassador denied visa's to witnesses. This after all those people and more manufactured bogus info to facilitate fraud and spy on Trump illegally. To push a bogus investigation headed by Mueller who's been involved in crimes. He destroyed evidence! He destroyed people, but they found nothing Trump did wrong.
The people around Trump which congress made impossible to fire were horribly corrupted by Obama Admin. Biden's were only part of a massive crime spree in Ukraine. Trump wants it investigated. That's totally in line with his job. He didn't hold back aid, and the delay, which is not unusual, he did until he saw that the new government was legit and going against corruption. He already gave them weapons to fight Russian aggression which Obama never gave, not held up. I guess you think that's wrong because "all war bad"? You soft headed idiot. You're like an NPC in that area.
You're wrong on use of the military. There are bad people out there. The whole world is local now. Obama used the military in a bad way, he armed ISIS and others. He got the Muslim Brotherhood in power in Egypt. Soros orgs involved in that are bringing Chile down. THAT is the bad. Trump has brought mush of our military out, and turned over things to local countries. He's forged a great thing in Saudi with the new King who is reforming Saudi, and they are working with Israel, often opposing Iran. WHICH MUST BE DONE. Trump's military is much smarter and more effective. Much more aligned with our interests and making things better for the people.
Democrats have been trashing republicans constantly. Media, the politicians, entertainment, all part of the same machine. Trump hitting back is important. It's productive. It counters the one sided defamation which affects how the masses perceive things about people.
The spending ... yes the amount of deficit has gone up. Trump does spend on things I don't agree with, but like Reagan he's got to bargain with Democrats to get what he needs done. The wall is a huge money saving tool. Will pay for itself many times over. The military was deficient, and he's invested. That's the deal Stossel, HE'S INVESTED, he's making the future better. What he spends up front (what he's bargained to get) helps the economy and lowers the need for future expenditure.
Now, the RAW DEFICIT. Trump's work has kicked up economic growth and wealth in the country. The DEFICIT RIGHT NOW IS LOWER ... how? By using intelligent measure and not idiotic dumb ass reporter/politician DEAD MATH. Measure the Deficit against GDP. It's LOWER NOW. Things are just starting to happen. Revenues are going to jump because the economy is jumping. Trump is already talking about paying it off. Others were bullshit on the subject. Trump? He talks big, but he performs big. He's brilliant.
You're still lagging Stossel, you've come a long way baby, brilliant and clear viewed in so many areas, but you're still as dumb ass as you know you used to be, in many areas. If you want, contact me, I'll help. I know I won't change your values, and seeing things can take time and your own work on it, but I can add important facts and perspective you're failing to understand.
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The Fed is the Rothschild Cartel, so is IMF, World Bank, almost every country's central bank. Soros is their public face. The Fed "officials" are? Puppets. World Economic Forum is? ultimately Rothschild Cartel. BLM AntiFa, the Watermelons pushing environmental pretext is? Rothschild Cartel. The moratoriums on Lumber and water (food) over fake science is? Rothschild Cartel. The "pandemic", the bio weapon spread deliberately? US officials working for? Working with? Pharma, China, Media world wide, Government officials world wide, planned by Rothschild Cartel. You will own nothing (rent, be an employee of a big fascist corp) and be happy? World economic forum, Soros, Rothschild Cartel. The Fed? Rothschild Cartel. Who scares Putin? Rothschild Cartel. Ukraine PM Zalinsky media darling bullshit propaganda? Rothschild Cartel, like Macron, Trudeau, Biden who was cheated in, the EU, pretty much all of NATO and the mobster UN, Rothschild Cartel. Dig deeper, do that research. You wont be able to say it on YouTube or you'll be gone. Because "fake news"? That's the pretext, but nope, Fake News is Golden, in the big Money. What gets you in trouble? Truth gets you in trouble. Are you believing the articles you read like gospel? The official line about the Fed? False Foundation.
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The Fed is the Rothschild Cartel, which owns every central bank in every country but 2 I believe. China and Iran. Soros is their current public face, so his objectives and projects is what they're using. BLM, AntiFa, those are Rothschild Cartel moves, along with all the divisionary tactics and information control they're implementing. Carter was a scumbag puppet picked by Zebigenue or spelling Zabriskie (Morning Mika's dad) who was similar to Soros, created the CFR. Trilateral Commission, and I think Bilderberg group. The Rothschild Cartel has nothing to do with Jews or Judaism. They're not all jewish, and in fact none of them are religious Jewish and they all hate Jews, and Christians. Probably because their individual rights centric philosophy is a huge clash with their goals. They work with Muslims, they made the Muslim Brotherhood what it is. Their pets. The ideology aligns better, and goals are compatible.
The Rothschild Cartel, which owns the Fed, and all other central banks but 2, has a goal of world domination. They've caused problems since they started in England and pushed for payback after the war, which caused the King to abuse the Colonies in America and started the Revolutionary War. They funded the colonies and the Brits. They got their first charter in the US under Washington, and were out in 20 years, and have been out once more under Jackson, routed them out, those "vipers and thieves". They came back under the scumbag Prez Wilson, and have been careful to buy politicians and media, entertainment, and academia since to keep their charter and have gone way beyond that. They're the ones JFK turned on after they cheated him into the presidency. Check his last speeches. He talked about them, threatened to out them ... caught bullets soon.
Henry Ford knew them, he joined them in supporting? Hitler. German war machines had Ford Engines. Bush helped finance them, along with many other money people. Rothschild Cartel got the Bolshevik Revolution going. Caused shit all over the world. Used propaganda and bought politicians to divide and destroy many countries. From Kosovo and Yugoslavia, to Egypt and working on Syria, and working on Chile, and MANY in between. Working on USA right now of course. BLM and AntiFa are their projects, which of course have gone world wide.
IMF? World Bank? Yep, R Cartel. Destruction of Mexican and Rwanda and other countries ag and food supplies? Yep, same assholes.
They are much more than just bankers (and not really even bankers).
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Nazis & Democrats call everyone disagreeing with them crazy, They justify violence against opponents, & want to take their guns so it's easier to kill them off and or oppress them. You can't talk to Nazis or Democrats, they're contemptuous, neurotic, hateful & depraved ... so they have to fuck the fuck off in any conversation about gun rights, or any other rights because they hate others, sure as hell don't respect them. We loose our weapons, we die, thats how it is. Oh, the LV shooter is AntiFa, may have converted to Islam (who Hitler worked with, and so do the Democrats, following Soros (A Nazi's) lead) so the Fascists, Democrats, working with globalists who want to take all our power in government ... they need to fuck the fuck off. They're fucked.
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@karadan100 lol, nope. Put all the claims together. The left claims they switched with the Right ... so they can
get away from their history of racial division, but they're still working the racial division angle hard, just a
different angle. It's always about division with the left.
Globalists, who totally co-opted the left and took it over, starting back as far as 1919 in the USA when the
Fabian Socialists got the Prog movement rolling to destroy the US Constitution, have pushed world wide
destruction. Globalists who backed Hitler, who later JFK warned us about before they killed him for threats
to expose them, fostered the Muslim Brotherhood to destroy decent Muslim civilization. Obama & Soros
were working on it still lately, and they're pissed on Trump for stopping it and crushing ISIS, which wasn't
hard if the inclination were there.
In the mean time, after JFK was murdered by the left, Johnson, a KKK member, documented, that released
by Trump with many JFK files, pushed division and separation of black families with his "new deal" which
has been predictably devastating to black society. Dependency and removing fathers from the home
created societal destruction, and it was deliberate, just like backing the Muslim Brotherhood, just like Obama
and his crew including Hillary Clinton working with Soros to create ISIS and hell in the Middle East & Africa.
Obama & cabinet worked with the world's largest state sponsor of terrorism, Iran, and brought the mother
of Islamic terror, The Muslim Brotherhood into his cabinet, after scheming with them to avoid well
justified terrorist status.
Why do people connected with Soros want to destroy the Middle East and African Muslim areas? (and the
Balkans, he and Zbigenew Zabrinski (spelling) worked hard on destroying states in the Balkans & others
and getting Globalist pawns to support it). What was the goal? What was Soros email speaking of when
he coordinated with Obama/Clinton on Algeria? (Or was it Angola, it's late) When Soros & Obama destroyed
Mubarak in Egypt for trumped up "human rights abuses" when dealing with the Muslim Brotherhood? You
can't play nice with the Muslim Brotherhood, their entire goal is death, destruction, oppression. Soros was
in the Middle of the US coup in Egypt which predictably got the Muslim Brotherhood in charge, and hell
followed their rule, of course. The Military took it back, thankfully. No thanks to Obama/Soros/Clinton/Kerry.
Why did they proceed to try to destroy EVERY SINGLE MUSLIM LEADER WHO PROTECTED MINORITIES AND
MODERATE MUSLIMS? Why would Obama give the Despots in Iran money held from the people of Iran?
It wasn't the Mullah despot's money. It was Iran's money. In the "Arab Spring" Obama/Soros/Clinton pushed
upheaval all over the Muslim world, against forces of moderation. They ignored Iran's people and allowed
them to be oppressed by the despots, and murdered in mass. Doesn't make sense does it? But when you
see their MO, yes, it does make perfect, evil sense.
You've been filled with propaganda. Pervasive wide propaganda driven by Billionaire interests who've
been exploiting people in groups, centered around one goal, who've gained wealth & power for generations.
Hitler, who was funded and got weapons from Globalists, like Bush's, Ford, and many more, got great press.
The media and the leftist assholes like Chamberlain praised him. Churchill warned of Hitler, he was trashed
in big Media/Entertainment.Academia which all praised Hitler. They also praised Stalin, Mao, Mussolini,
Castro/Che ... all mass horrendous mass murderers. They backed Chavez who's created hell in a country
which has excellent natural resources, many many deaths. Starvation. Why? Because it fits with a plan
of upheaval to create hell on earth, because destroyed people are easy to manipulate.
What are Globalists and their pawns doing with Middle Eastern and African people who've been destroyed
and taught hate for the west? They're taking the least afflicted and most hostile to invade the West and
create the same in the West. Open Borders, Open Society ... massive poilitical pressure to allow people who
hate into countries with populations they hate. To cover them by manipulating prosecution. Going after
people who defend against them while giving their invaders huge advantages of political/legal cover. Lots
of money, homes, cars.
Doing the same in the USA, using Muslims like Somalis who hate the people of the West. Pushing in hoards
of Africans through Mexico. Bringing in people from South America that Progressives in the US Funded
Soros to destroy their countries. That's not a theory, it's a fact. Honduras is one of those countries.
Now Murder central of the world. Mexico was destroyed by the same group, the World Bank destroying
agriculture in Mexico as it has all over the world, leaving people starving while their food is exported.
Trump, hated by big Media/Entertainment/Academia who lie about him constantly (the same groups who
love every horrendous mass murderer historically) is stopping this horror world wide. Stopping the
exploitation of the USA by Globalists who make Billions, who bribe Politicians and Officials making them
millionaires. So those politicians who drift with the Globalists money, hate Trump as well. It was the same
with Reagan. The US government was so corrupted, the Muslim Brotherhood, a terrorist groups, the mother
of Islamic terror, actually big in Obama's Cabinet. They created false evidence, in conspiracy with big Media
to make it seem credible, to spy on Trump. To try to frame him of Russian Collusion, which Obama/Clinton
had been in up to their eyeballs. Media was given fake stories to push to keep up the propaganda and
push fear of Trump, hate, even strong prevalent suggestion of Assassination.
Ronald Reagan got much the same, by the same bunch. Globalists corrupted Republicans going along with
Globalist owned Democrats and big Media/Entertainment/Academia tried to destroy his candidacy, then
his presidency. Why? Reagan wasn't owned, or susceptible to blackmail and he wouldn't be bought. Guess
who fits that mold? Trump. Globalist pawns in the US went all out to get Trump. They've committed crimes
and atrocities. They had to own the Government to keep those covered, then comes Trump. Trump gains
popularity despite their propaganda onslaught, paid for violence, and massive cheating in the election.
Trump beat it all, and trust me, these people are FREAKING OUT.
Is it beyond the pale for these desperate criminal factions to send fake bombs to their own to try to trash
Trump and his supporters before an election where they have it all on the line? Hell no, I expected
something like this ... just wonder what comes next.
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